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Sat Feb 10, 2018, 09:48 AM

How is it NOT SUPER #BreakingNews that DHS Cybersecurity Chief says Russia HACKED INTO U.S. VOTER S

Now for Trump to acknowledge this. But that will never happen.


Emoluments Clause‏ @Emolclause

Emoluments Clause Retweeted Amy Siskind

How is it NOT SUPER #BreakingNews that DHS Cybersecurity Chief says Russia HACKED INTO U.S. VOTER SYSTEMS in 2016 elections? HOW FOLKS??

#TheResistance #TrumpRussia #CNN #MSNBC #FoxNews #bbcnews

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A story broke today that the DHS cybersecurity chief said Russia hacked into US voters systems in the 2016 election, and in the chaos, no one is even paying attention to it!

11:09 AM - 8 Feb 2018

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Emoluments Clause
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Feb 8

#BREAKING:There you have it folks--Russia HACKED INTO U.S. VOTING SYSTEMS!! Time for an INVESTIGATION into this breach. What did they get and has ANYTHING BEEN FIXED?
#TheResistance #CNN #MSNBC #FoxNews #TrumpRussia #bbcnews








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Reply How is it NOT SUPER #BreakingNews that DHS Cybersecurity Chief says Russia HACKED INTO U.S. VOTER S (Original post)
riversedge Feb 2018 OP
Squinch Feb 2018 #1
Botany Feb 2018 #6
N_E_1 for Tennis Feb 2018 #10
pandr32 Feb 2018 #38
spanone Feb 2018 #2
DemocracyMouse Feb 2018 #57
Iliyah Feb 2018 #3
Botany Feb 2018 #4
joshdawg Feb 2018 #8
Hermit-The-Prog Feb 2018 #11
Botany Feb 2018 #16
jrthin Feb 2018 #26
dewsgirl Feb 2018 #5
groundloop Feb 2018 #7
Amaryllis Feb 2018 #52
usaf-vet Feb 2018 #9
Eyeball_Kid Feb 2018 #15
triron Feb 2018 #39
PoorMonger Feb 2018 #12
WyattKansas Feb 2018 #25
lastlib Feb 2018 #36
lastlib Feb 2018 #35
Eyeball_Kid Feb 2018 #13
Amaryllis Feb 2018 #53
triron Feb 2018 #54
Ilsa Feb 2018 #14
LittleGirl Feb 2018 #17
Corgigal Feb 2018 #28
LittleGirl Feb 2018 #45
Chipper Chat Feb 2018 #18
Botany Feb 2018 #19
Chipper Chat Feb 2018 #20
Botany Feb 2018 #21
Chipper Chat Feb 2018 #22
Botany Feb 2018 #23
Chipper Chat Feb 2018 #24
Corgigal Feb 2018 #32
Corgigal Feb 2018 #29
Botany Feb 2018 #33
triron Feb 2018 #40
Richard D Feb 2018 #27
sarcasmo Feb 2018 #30
LittleGirl Feb 2018 #46
pnwmom Feb 2018 #31
sarcasmo Feb 2018 #34
YOHABLO Feb 2018 #59
world wide wally Feb 2018 #37
triron Feb 2018 #41
triron Feb 2018 #42
tblue37 Feb 2018 #43
tblue37 Feb 2018 #44
AmandaRuth Feb 2018 #47
triron Feb 2018 #48
Cha Feb 2018 #49
triron Feb 2018 #50
ResIpsa Feb 2018 #51
jimlup Feb 2018 #55
triron Feb 2018 #56
jimlup Feb 2018 #60
C Moon Feb 2018 #58
triron Feb 2018 #61

Response to riversedge (Original post)

Sat Feb 10, 2018, 09:51 AM

1. Kick. This is truly the frog in the pot. First it was "no way!" Then, "maybe." Now "Definitely but

it is "incredibly small." Next it will be, "Widespread but nothing to worry your little heads about."

And we'll go on.

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Response to Squinch (Reply #1)

Sat Feb 10, 2018, 10:05 AM

6. If I may it is playing out like this:

1) Trump/GOP We never talked to the Russians.

b) Trump/GOP Well, we talked to the Russians but not about the elections.

iii) Trump/GOP Well, we talked to the Russians and it was about the elections.

4) Trump/GOP Well, we talked to the Russians about the elections but they didn't
tamper in the vote.

e) Trump/GOP Well, we talked to the Russians about the elections and they did try
to tamper with the vote but it didn't effect the outcome of the elections.

And next up will be
vi) Trump/GOP Well, we talked to the Russians about the elections, they did try
to tamper with the vote with Trump/GOP/Cambridge Analytica help, and it effected
the outcome.

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Response to Botany (Reply #6)

Sat Feb 10, 2018, 10:25 AM

10. After that itll be...

We’re all talking Russian.

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Response to Squinch (Reply #1)

Sat Feb 10, 2018, 12:56 PM

38. Right, and they were only helping to save us from Crooked Hillary

Besides, they aren't bad guys. It's fake news that they are bad guys. Why can't we be friends?

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Response to riversedge (Original post)

Sat Feb 10, 2018, 09:53 AM

2. K&R...

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Response to spanone (Reply #2)

Sun Feb 11, 2018, 02:59 AM

57. With all that Twitter noise in THIS VERY POST, and others, any news would be lost

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Response to riversedge (Original post)

Sat Feb 10, 2018, 09:55 AM

3. Because,

it defeats the notion that the GOPs won fair and square. . . .

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Response to riversedge (Original post)

Sat Feb 10, 2018, 09:55 AM

4. I think this news is linked to why so many republicans leaving office now.

They all know that they and now the Russians have been rigging elections for years
and when that gets out not even Fox News will be able to give them cover. The Russian's
hacking of our election data needed help by people inside the U.S. in order to weaponize
that data.

Those mother fuckers need to be in prison for treason.

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Response to Botany (Reply #4)

Sat Feb 10, 2018, 10:18 AM

8. fox won't have time to give them cover because

they will be busy talking about Hillary's emails again.

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Response to joshdawg (Reply #8)

Sat Feb 10, 2018, 10:30 AM

11. whaddya mean, "again"?

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Response to Hermit-The-Prog (Reply #11)

Sat Feb 10, 2018, 10:59 AM

16. Of course didn't you know that her email account had a ......

SERVER?

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Response to joshdawg (Reply #8)

Sat Feb 10, 2018, 12:22 PM

26. Exactly. It's not breaking news because

It has nothing to do with Hillary Clinton's emails.

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Response to riversedge (Original post)

Sat Feb 10, 2018, 09:58 AM

5. The chaos is by design, so we can't focus on any one

Thing for to long. And it's working. This Porter mess though, was not planned and completely took them off guard.

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Response to riversedge (Original post)

Sat Feb 10, 2018, 10:18 AM

7. The notion that Russian interfered has been out for quite a while now......

So in a way this is old news. Or said another way it's confirming old news. There are those of us who know it's true, so really nothing unexpected. And then there are those who refuse to believe it and very few of those people will be convinced by anything less than 45* proclaiming "Russia hacked the election on my behalf". As per the Mark Twain quote - It's easier to fool some people than to convince them they've been fooled.

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Response to groundloop (Reply #7)

Sun Feb 11, 2018, 12:23 AM

52. MSM covered this summer of 2016. It is not new "news."

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Response to riversedge (Original post)

Sat Feb 10, 2018, 10:25 AM

9. Of the 21 states hacked. What did the hacking get?

I think there eventually will be another shoe to drop. I'm guess the hacking in at least three of the states. Look at what states put Trump over the Electoral College top.

Hacking there did result in them accessing voting records. How many voter record were altered, purged, changed legal address, add a criminal record... whatever. That kept THAT voter from being able to vote on election day?

Maybe the Russians didn't change the final voting results but simply prevented voters from voting.

This information will trickle out little by little but not soon enough to stop it from happing in the 2018 midterms.

The GOP is in no rush to fix the security of the voting system because at this point it is working for them in their favor. IMO the fix was in in 2016 and will be in, in 2018 key congressional races.

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Response to usaf-vet (Reply #9)

Sat Feb 10, 2018, 10:46 AM

15. There is no rationale for concluding that tallies WEREN'T altered.

So Russian hackers "picked the lock", opened the door, stared at the vote tallies, eyes wide open, and didn't change any votes??? Why would they NOT change votes? They found the keys to the kingdom, and they didn't use them???

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Response to riversedge (Original post)

Sat Feb 10, 2018, 10:31 AM

12. And they always add.

Their favorite little caveat : there is no evidence that any vote tallies were changed..

But has anyone just asked them point blank if they’ve even looked into that for real? Because obviously if you were taking that question seriously you’d have done vote audits in at least some of 21 confirmed breaches. And of course with a President who still won’t acknowledge the problem and a Republican Party still holding out hope that Russia will steal midterms for them or at least make things easier we can’t trust we will even get an answer

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Response to PoorMonger (Reply #12)

Sat Feb 10, 2018, 12:06 PM

25. They say there is no evidence tallies were changed, because...

Think about this:
How would the government go back and fix all the altered tallies and re-position so many elected offices in the United States?
Then go back and undo all of the influence those elected offices effected on everything passed and all business conducted with regards to everyone who may have been wronged... Foreign governments all the way to constituents. I also think that is why Obama refused to investigate the Bush Administration, because it opens a Pandora's Box.

They don't want to cause anymore disruption and fights, so they let it slide. Personally, I think Mueller is there to also determine exactly who in the Republican Party needs to go away and be shunned in the future.

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Response to WyattKansas (Reply #25)

Sat Feb 10, 2018, 12:41 PM

36. Welcome to DU!!


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Response to PoorMonger (Reply #12)

Sat Feb 10, 2018, 12:39 PM

35. "There's no evidence" because they don't LOOK for it.....

They don't even WANT to look for it, and they'll hide their eyes and cover their ears when confronted with it.

Denial ain't just a river in Egypt.

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Response to riversedge (Original post)

Sat Feb 10, 2018, 10:43 AM

13. Oh, but of course, vote tallies were NEVER altered! Were they?

Why would Russian hackers go through the trouble and risk of hacking into the US voting system, gain access to databases, gain access to the election process, and NOT change votes to favor Trumpy? That simply doesn't make sense. Oh, but the Russian hackers DIDN'T CROSS THAT LINE, did they? And why not? Do they have a sacred respect for the election process? Why would we conclude, without data to back this up, that not ONE vote was altered by hackers? Why would they tinker around the edges when they could just burrow right in and do whatever they wanted?

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Response to Eyeball_Kid (Reply #13)

Sun Feb 11, 2018, 12:41 AM

53. It seems they did it just to prove they could, and then stopped with that! No tampering or altering

of ANYTHING. They did it just for fun. Nothing nefarious at all. Nothing to see here. Move along.

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Response to Amaryllis (Reply #53)

Sun Feb 11, 2018, 12:48 AM

54. How can the powers that be let on that your vote is not very sacred at all?

It is just a exercise to make you feel 'good'.

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Response to riversedge (Original post)

Sat Feb 10, 2018, 10:46 AM

14. MSNBC thinks they need to talk about the wifebeater.

They think cybersecurity is too difficult for most tv watchers to understand. They may be right.

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Response to riversedge (Original post)

Sat Feb 10, 2018, 11:00 AM

17. I have suspected this for over a year

and considered the 2016 elections to be null and void. I mean, don't you remember the look on 45's face when he came on stage election night? He wasn't even smiling. It's like he knew that it wasn't for real. He was not prepared to win that election and we are all paying the price for that fraud.

I knew that if the russians had hacked both the Ds and Rs but only published the Ds emails, they had to have been able to hack into the election data. The report that 21 states were hacked is not a surprise to me.

That election was rigged, just like 45 said. He knew it and I don't ever call that buffoon, the mango Mussolini our president.

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Response to LittleGirl (Reply #17)

Sat Feb 10, 2018, 12:28 PM

28. He didn't want to win it.

They probably told him that they would make it close, but not enough to make him change his life.

So, others probably told him that he can take the job, but others will be the decision maker. He won't even have to learn to read. Can keep all those businesses. Then he started believing he can do it, since his fans want it. More clapping, and others telling him how great he's doing.

He thinks he actually won, he will be the last to believe it was stolen. Russia screwed him, and us, I knew he was too corrupt to ever have the Justice system to research his companies. He might have been told, no one will ever figure it all out. It's way too complicated. Forgetting how RICO works.

His family should never have allowed him to run. He should really fear, if the criminal justice system has the evidence you're guilty. He thinks he can just ignore that?

McDonalds won't save him, then.

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Response to Corgigal (Reply #28)

Sat Feb 10, 2018, 02:22 PM

45. I wish Mueller

would hurry up!

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Response to riversedge (Original post)

Sat Feb 10, 2018, 11:36 AM

18. Michigan, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin.

Pennsylvania, wisconsin, and Michigan. Wisconsin, Michigan and Pennsylvania.

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Response to Chipper Chat (Reply #18)

Sat Feb 10, 2018, 11:37 AM

19. Add in Arizona, North Carolina, and Florida too.

And I have no doubt that OH was messed w/too.

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Response to Botany (Reply #19)

Sat Feb 10, 2018, 11:41 AM

20. Scott Walker is so guilty his mouth resembles a map of Russia.

Oh wait. Maybe it's a different orafice.

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Response to Chipper Chat (Reply #20)

Sat Feb 10, 2018, 11:45 AM

21. Russ Feingold was @ 90% chance of winning back his senate seat .... but somehow he lost?




https://www.greenbaypressgazette.com/story/news/2017/01/23/russians-suspected-hacking-local-dems/96965824/

What was Russia doing looking at voter data in Green Bay, Wisconsin and other towns in Wisconsin?

BTW I'll go to my grave thinking that Walker's "win" in the recall race was dirty.

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Response to Botany (Reply #21)

Sat Feb 10, 2018, 11:48 AM

22. and Max Cleland.

That really stunk like rotten Georgia peanuts.

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Response to Chipper Chat (Reply #22)

Sat Feb 10, 2018, 11:51 AM

23. And the 2015 KY Governor's race too.

The Dem. A.G. was @ 5 points up going into the election but lost by 9
points? A 14 point swing? Please.

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Response to Botany (Reply #23)

Sat Feb 10, 2018, 11:56 AM

24. the Turtle's machine worked overtime on that one.

Lots of smoke-filled rooms polluting horse country.

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Response to Botany (Reply #23)

Sat Feb 10, 2018, 12:34 PM

32. YES

Still no one here knows how that weasel governor got into the Kentucky office. He's been under investigation since this nightmare all began.

They can't look into it. They aren't even close to a majority, and would never win a race, any where again.

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Response to Botany (Reply #19)

Sat Feb 10, 2018, 12:31 PM

29. And even South Carolina

Remember that article, several months ago about how many pings were hitting that state?
Might search for it later.

All the news was amazed it took so long to call? Reasons..

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Response to Corgigal (Reply #29)

Sat Feb 10, 2018, 12:37 PM

33. South Carolina is one of those states where African Americans voted in the primary but ...

.... skipped voting in the general election?

S.C. is 35% black and 10% Hispanic .... that means almost 45%* of the vote should be
blue and if only 5% the white votes goes blue then the state tips to the Ds.


* Some conservative evangelical African Americans vote red .....

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Response to Botany (Reply #19)

Sat Feb 10, 2018, 01:16 PM

40. 26 out of 28 states that had exit polls done had a shift toward Trump.

See Ron Baiman's exit poll analysis for 2016.
Also 19 or 21 Senate races had a red shift.

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Response to riversedge (Original post)

Sat Feb 10, 2018, 12:24 PM

27. I wonder . . .

. . . if it wasn't the same people who took DU down on election eve?
Makes sense that it would be.

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Response to riversedge (Original post)

Sat Feb 10, 2018, 12:33 PM

30. Paper ballots

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Response to sarcasmo (Reply #30)

Sat Feb 10, 2018, 02:23 PM

46. YES!

Please!

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Response to riversedge (Original post)

Sat Feb 10, 2018, 12:33 PM

31. Because we've known since JUNE when officials testified in Congress.

What's NEWS is they still haven't done anything about it!

And yes, her statement was even more publicly officially-official, but the fact is no one was surprised because we went through all this last summer.

And some reports said it was even worse: 39 states, not 21.


http://time.com/4828306/russian-hacking-election-widespread-private-data/

The hacking of state and local election databases in 2016 was more extensive than previously reported, including at least one successful attempt to alter voter information, and the theft of thousands of voter records that contain private information like partial Social Security numbers, current and former officials tell TIME.

In one case, investigators found there had been a manipulation of voter data in a county database but the alterations were discovered and rectified, two sources familiar with the matter tell TIME. Investigators have not identified whether the hackers in that case were Russian agents.

The fact that private data was stolen from states is separately providing investigators a previously unreported line of inquiry in the probes into Russian attempts to influence the election. In Illinois, more than 90% of the nearly 90,000 records stolen by Russian state actors contained drivers license numbers, and a quarter contained the last four digits of voters’ Social Security numbers, according to Ken Menzel, the General Counsel of the State Board of Elections.

SNIP

Cyber-security officials testifying at the Senate hearing acknowledged for the first time the extent of the Russian effort to interfere with the election. Twenty-one states saw such intrusions last year, a senior official from the Department of Homeland Security, Jeanette Manfra, said. None of the intrusions affected the vote count itself, all the officials testified.


https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-06-13/russian-breach-of-39-states-threatens-future-u-s-elections

Russia’s cyberattack on the U.S. electoral system before Donald Trump’s election was far more widespread than has been publicly revealed, including incursions into voter databases and software systems in almost twice as many states as previously reported.

In Illinois, investigators found evidence that cyber intruders tried to delete or alter voter data. The hackers accessed software designed to be used by poll workers on Election Day, and in at least one state accessed a campaign finance database. Details of the wave of attacks, in the summer and fall of 2016, were provided by three people with direct knowledge of the U.S. investigation into the matter. In all, the Russian hackers hit systems in a total of 39 states, one of them said.

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Response to riversedge (Original post)

Sat Feb 10, 2018, 12:37 PM

34. Surgical strike on our nation. It was an act of war and the GOP sits by ignoring reality.

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Response to sarcasmo (Reply #34)

Sun Feb 11, 2018, 08:00 AM

59. It would matter to GOP only if it were a surgical strike to benefit Democrats.

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Response to riversedge (Original post)

Sat Feb 10, 2018, 12:54 PM

37. I think we have to change the chant for the Olympics to "ISA, ISA, ISA"

Impotent States of America.
That is how the world views us with Fuckface as our ruler.
I can't wait for the parade.

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Response to riversedge (Original post)

Sat Feb 10, 2018, 01:30 PM

41. knr

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Response to riversedge (Original post)

Sat Feb 10, 2018, 02:00 PM

42. kick

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Response to riversedge (Original post)

Sat Feb 10, 2018, 02:04 PM

43. K&R for visibility. nt

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Response to riversedge (Original post)

Sat Feb 10, 2018, 02:06 PM

44. But her emails! Benghazi! Uranium One. Nunes memo! Argle Bargle!!! M$M priorities. nt

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Response to riversedge (Original post)

Sat Feb 10, 2018, 03:05 PM

47. i'm telling you, we need to give this war we are fighting

a name. And we are in a war.

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Response to riversedge (Original post)

Sat Feb 10, 2018, 04:42 PM

48. kick again

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Response to riversedge (Original post)

Sat Feb 10, 2018, 06:30 PM

49. It's just what we suspected.. but the M$M

fucking media should be blasting this all over the place!

And, they're right.. to have it Confirmed is astronomical!

Thank you for this, rivers!

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Response to riversedge (Original post)

Sat Feb 10, 2018, 10:02 PM

50. knr

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Response to riversedge (Original post)

Sun Feb 11, 2018, 01:03 AM

55. I do think that the population has become bored with this story

Not that it should be. But people have short attention spans and difficulty understanding the significance.

That is why we need a media that keeps account and tells the truth.

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Response to jimlup (Reply #55)

Sun Feb 11, 2018, 02:14 AM

56. or they simply don't care.

Half the population does not vote.

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Response to triron (Reply #56)

Sun Feb 11, 2018, 08:55 AM

60. Yes, they don't perceive it as affecting them /nt

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Response to riversedge (Original post)

Sun Feb 11, 2018, 03:26 AM

58. This is our biggest obstacle.

We can go door to door for votes until our feet are bleeding;
but the fat rich bastards can sit on their asses and change those votes with a little digital evil magic.
It happened.
Trump got into office by changing votes.
I've been yelling about this since that night.

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Response to C Moon (Reply #58)

Sun Feb 11, 2018, 02:04 PM

61. +1000

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