Thu Feb 8, 2018, 12:45 PM

kpete (66,214 posts)

Wow. This insanely racist cartoon ran today in the ABQ Journal.

Wow. This insanely racist cartoon ran today in the @ABQJournal, my hometown newspaper and the first place I ever worked. The paper has always had a conservative editorial board, but this is next-level.

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Wow. This insanely racist cartoon ran today in the ABQ Journal. (Original post)	kpete	Feb 2018	OP
They should rename the paper.	madaboutharry	Feb 2018	#1
Or the ABQ Urinal.	Ken Burch	Feb 2018	#26
This is the perfect snapshot of todays Republian's mind	The Polack MSgt	Feb 2018	#2
Not accidental. Carefully plotted propaganda. MS13 & terrorists nothing to do with DACA dreamers. nt	Bernardo de La Paz	Feb 2018	#25
Yeah, it purposely pushes teh agenda, that's not the accident	The Polack MSgt	Feb 2018	#34
Damn	Solly Mack	Feb 2018	#3
What advertisers brought you today's Two Minute Hate?	struggle4progress	Feb 2018	#4
Horrible	bdamomma	Feb 2018	#5
The artist's email is	HopeAgain	Feb 2018	#6
He still uses aol?	Downtown Hound	Feb 2018	#7
lol!	Ligyron	Feb 2018	#33
I think going after the cartoonist is the 3rd strategy	SCantiGOP	Feb 2018	#10
Yep. Every single advertiser needs to see this and be asked their opinion	Hassin Bin Sober	Feb 2018	#19
email of the opinions Editor who chooses cartoons is in the tweet flow. . . . nt	Bernardo de La Paz	Feb 2018	#22
The Abq. Journal is a RW rag - has been for years.	alittlelark	Feb 2018	#8
"New Mexico has the highest percentage of Hispanic ancestry, at 47 percent."	procon	Feb 2018	#9
Pretty sure they're going to end up backing some sort of linguistic/cultural apartheid for NM.	Ken Burch	Feb 2018	#24
It is Beyond Stupid.. I said	Cha	Feb 2018	#56
After a 30 year subscription to the ABQ journal...	ALBliberal	Feb 2018	#11
It's hard to believe that any publication would allow this to run. Shameful.	Arkansas Granny	Feb 2018	#12
Yep! Welcome to trump's version of America.	justhanginon	Feb 2018	#39
Revolting...	airmid	Feb 2018	#13
Geez, yeah..	whathehell	Feb 2018	#14
The artist is at ...	aggiesal	Feb 2018	#15
He's on Twitter as well	Blue_Adept	Feb 2018	#21
He has previous cartoons there	cagefreesoylentgreen	Feb 2018	#40
Hey	They_Live	Feb 2018	#23
The largest paper in the state wants to insult Dreamers and Democrats	IronLionZion	Feb 2018	#16
Cartoonist Delonas has a history of racism. Unable/unwilling to learn from mistakes.	Bernardo de La Paz	Feb 2018	#27
WTF?	Ligyron	Feb 2018	#35
That's enough to have the local D.A. get a warrant for police dogs	oasis	Feb 2018	#49
For Christ Sake!	Cha	Feb 2018	#57
Oh my god	PatSeg	Feb 2018	#17
Her email (opinions editor) is in a reply series in that Twitter thread. . . . nt	Bernardo de La Paz	Feb 2018	#28
Thank you	PatSeg	Feb 2018	#44
They're totally getting their asses handed back to them on twitter	tenderfoot	Feb 2018	#18
yea the apology is pretty odd as well.	Egnever	Feb 2018	#37
Yeah that is pretty lame	PatSeg	Feb 2018	#45
That is their problem ..."Future Democrats" ..	Le Gaucher	Feb 2018	#20
What disgusting, bigoted & offensive rot, shame on this paper	appalachiablue	Feb 2018	#29
I live in Albuquerque. The newspaper has strangely (in my view)	triron	Feb 2018	#30
I'm not sqeamish	FakeNoose	Feb 2018	#31
I hear ya.	Ligyron	Feb 2018	#36
Here is my suggestion	FakeNoose	Feb 2018	#41
"This insanely racist cartoon" - didn't that help?	nini	Feb 2018	#48
People copy the cartoon and send it to their friends	FakeNoose	Feb 2018	#51
Who cares what others do?	nini	Feb 2018	#61
Can you send this to Rachel Maddow?	triron	Feb 2018	#32
Well, I don't see this as racist	SpankMe	Feb 2018	#38
How is it not racist? All dreamers are members of MS13?!	anneboleyn	Feb 2018	#50
It's totally RACIST	Cha	Feb 2018	#54
Well, you're wrong.	Iggo	Feb 2018	#55
This is truly disgusting	syringis	Feb 2018	#42
Yes	PatSeg	Feb 2018	#46
This cartoon is the Tucker Carlson garbage, a former neocon	anneboleyn	Feb 2018	#52
assholes	gopiscrap	Feb 2018	#43
While he has done some anti-Trump toons, it looks like he's just a vile person	progressoid	Feb 2018	#47
This is freaking Way Beyond the Next Level	Cha	Feb 2018	#53
Muslim terrorist, Latin gangs and a black cat . Racist trifecta	lunasun	Feb 2018	#58
The cartooning is actually pretty competent.	Dave Starsky	Feb 2018	#59
Wow. That's the kind of crap I would expect from my local fish wrap.	GoCubsGo	Feb 2018	#60
I live in Albuquerque	left-of-center2012	Feb 2018	#62
at least now we have a dem mayor.	triron	Feb 2018	#63
And a Dem majority city council	left-of-center2012	Feb 2018	#64

Response to kpete (Original post)

Thu Feb 8, 2018, 12:47 PM

madaboutharry (34,310 posts)

1. They should rename the paper.

It should be called the ABQ Deplorable.

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Response to madaboutharry (Reply #1)

Thu Feb 8, 2018, 03:08 PM

Ken Burch (50,254 posts)

26. Or the ABQ Urinal.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Thu Feb 8, 2018, 12:48 PM

The Polack MSgt (8,187 posts)

2. This is the perfect snapshot of todays Republian's mind

Hate filled racist and nonsensical.

It's accidentally genius

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Response to The Polack MSgt (Reply #2)

Thu Feb 8, 2018, 03:03 PM

Bernardo de La Paz (35,194 posts)

25. Not accidental. Carefully plotted propaganda. MS13 & terrorists nothing to do with DACA dreamers. nt

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Response to Bernardo de La Paz (Reply #25)

Thu Feb 8, 2018, 03:26 PM

The Polack MSgt (8,187 posts)

34. Yeah, it purposely pushes teh agenda, that's not the accident

The "accidentally genius" part is the window into the minds of these racist shitstains.

The cartoonist figures he's just throwing out some red meat to keep Republicans churning...

But anyone with the eyes to see can read that toon, see the symbols (the black cats,the rats, the crow), follow the dialog and truly get a glimpse at the fear and loathing that colors every facet of what passes for thought among the lot of them.

Hateful because of their fears, fearful because of their ignorance and ignorant because they choose the easy answer that agrees with what they already believe.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Thu Feb 8, 2018, 12:49 PM

Solly Mack (79,654 posts)

3. Damn

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Thu Feb 8, 2018, 12:50 PM

struggle4progress (109,373 posts)

4. What advertisers brought you today's Two Minute Hate?

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Thu Feb 8, 2018, 12:50 PM

bdamomma (57,357 posts)

5. Horrible

pitting people against people.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Thu Feb 8, 2018, 01:07 PM

HopeAgain (4,407 posts)

6. The artist's email is

seandelonas@aol.com. Let him know how you feel..

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Response to HopeAgain (Reply #6)

Thu Feb 8, 2018, 01:11 PM

Downtown Hound (12,312 posts)

7. He still uses aol?

That right there tells me everything I need to know about him.

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Response to Downtown Hound (Reply #7)

Thu Feb 8, 2018, 03:24 PM

Ligyron (5,396 posts)

33. lol!

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Response to HopeAgain (Reply #6)

Thu Feb 8, 2018, 01:23 PM

SCantiGOP (10,566 posts)

10. I think going after the cartoonist is the 3rd strategy

#2 would be to complain to the paper, but the best would be to reference the cartoon in going after the paper's advertisers.

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Response to SCantiGOP (Reply #10)

Thu Feb 8, 2018, 02:52 PM

Hassin Bin Sober (23,202 posts)

19. Yep. Every single advertiser needs to see this and be asked their opinion

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Response to SCantiGOP (Reply #10)

Thu Feb 8, 2018, 03:01 PM

Bernardo de La Paz (35,194 posts)

22. email of the opinions Editor who chooses cartoons is in the tweet flow. . . . nt

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Thu Feb 8, 2018, 01:16 PM

alittlelark (17,797 posts)

8. The Abq. Journal is a RW rag - has been for years.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Thu Feb 8, 2018, 01:19 PM

procon (15,252 posts)

9. "New Mexico has the highest percentage of Hispanic ancestry, at 47 percent."

I just googled up that little factoid. With newspapers fading from the American scene, its kinda beyond stupid for the publisher to deliberately decide that promoting a racist ideology that appeals to white supremacists, and alienating almost half their potential customer base, would be good for business. The paper is not only insulting their own subscribers, but the advertisers who paid for that large readership who might see their ads.

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Response to procon (Reply #9)

Thu Feb 8, 2018, 03:03 PM

Ken Burch (50,254 posts)

24. Pretty sure they're going to end up backing some sort of linguistic/cultural apartheid for NM.

n/t.

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Response to procon (Reply #9)

Thu Feb 8, 2018, 04:54 PM

Cha (261,925 posts)

56. It is Beyond Stupid.. I said

so in my post, too.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Thu Feb 8, 2018, 01:49 PM

ALBliberal (1,698 posts)

11. After a 30 year subscription to the ABQ journal...

We let the the subscription lapse last month but were reconsidering as my husband loves the sports page and generally the routine of grabbing the paper each morning and reading before work etc.

But seeing this disgraceful display of racism seals our decision. We won't resubscribe to the ABQ Journal.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Thu Feb 8, 2018, 02:11 PM

Arkansas Granny (28,058 posts)

12. It's hard to believe that any publication would allow this to run. Shameful.

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Response to Arkansas Granny (Reply #12)

Thu Feb 8, 2018, 03:42 PM

justhanginon (2,669 posts)

39. Yep! Welcome to trump's version of America.

This will only get worse and worse as more of these cretins feel like they have been empowered by the current resident of the White House.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Thu Feb 8, 2018, 02:32 PM

airmid (407 posts)

13. Revolting...

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Thu Feb 8, 2018, 02:36 PM

whathehell (25,142 posts)

14. Geez, yeah..

Hard to believe they could get away with that in a state with such a large Hispanic population.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Thu Feb 8, 2018, 02:37 PM

aggiesal (5,237 posts)

15. The artist is at ...

http://seandelonas.com/index.html

Maybe New Mexicans should write the Albq. Journal and let them have it
for propagating hateful stereotypes.

This should be highly offensive to everyone, especially anyone who is of Hispanic descent.
I lived in New Mexico during college years.

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Response to aggiesal (Reply #15)

Thu Feb 8, 2018, 03:00 PM

Blue_Adept (6,118 posts)

21. He's on Twitter as well

https://twitter.com/seandelonas

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Response to Blue_Adept (Reply #21)

Thu Feb 8, 2018, 03:46 PM

cagefreesoylentgreen (700 posts)

40. He has previous cartoons there

My god, that’s some ugly art.

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Response to aggiesal (Reply #15)

Thu Feb 8, 2018, 03:03 PM

They_Live (2,870 posts)

23. Hey

he's got a phone number listed at that link.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Thu Feb 8, 2018, 02:38 PM

IronLionZion (31,418 posts)

16. The largest paper in the state wants to insult Dreamers and Democrats

sounds like they would lose subscribers and advertisers because of this. Dems have the majority of voter registrations there and advertisers might want to keep their customers.

And it doesn't make any sense. Dreamers lose DACA protection if they commit a crime. Crime is still bad when committed by Americans. Why is there a guy standing to the side with a sword and dynamite? After MS-13 robs the nice white people a terrorist will blow himself up in a dark alley at night?

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Response to IronLionZion (Reply #16)

Thu Feb 8, 2018, 03:09 PM

Bernardo de La Paz (35,194 posts)

27. Cartoonist Delonas has a history of racism. Unable/unwilling to learn from mistakes.

This cartoon was two days after cops killed an escaped chimpanzee from a zoo and one day after Obama signed a big economic stimulus bill.

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Response to Bernardo de La Paz (Reply #27)

Thu Feb 8, 2018, 03:28 PM

Ligyron (5,396 posts)

35. WTF?

How they get away with that?

Jeez...

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Response to Bernardo de La Paz (Reply #27)

Thu Feb 8, 2018, 04:36 PM

oasis (46,137 posts)

49. That's enough to have the local D.A. get a warrant for police dogs

to sniff the artist's basement for buried corpses. The guy's an obvious sicko.

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Response to Bernardo de La Paz (Reply #27)

Thu Feb 8, 2018, 04:56 PM

Cha (261,925 posts)

57. For Christ Sake!

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Thu Feb 8, 2018, 02:38 PM

PatSeg (33,763 posts)

17. Oh my god

Who on earth authorized that? Looks like something you'd expect to see on Breitbart.

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Response to PatSeg (Reply #17)

Thu Feb 8, 2018, 03:10 PM

Bernardo de La Paz (35,194 posts)

28. Her email (opinions editor) is in a reply series in that Twitter thread. . . . nt

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Response to Bernardo de La Paz (Reply #28)

Thu Feb 8, 2018, 04:16 PM

PatSeg (33,763 posts)

44. Thank you

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Thu Feb 8, 2018, 02:48 PM

tenderfoot (5,224 posts)

18. They're totally getting their asses handed back to them on twitter

Link to tweet

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Response to tenderfoot (Reply #18)

Thu Feb 8, 2018, 03:35 PM

Egnever (21,506 posts)

37. yea the apology is pretty odd as well.

Political cartoons are often satire and poke at more than one point of view. I do not presume to know what cartoonist Sean Delonas was trying to convey in his cartoon that was published in Wednesday’s Albuquerque Journal. But on one level it appeared to us to be poking at President Trump’s rhetoric by portraying a quaking Republican couple who were painting Dreamers with a broad, totally false, brush.

Who in the hell could interpret the cartoon that way?

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Response to Egnever (Reply #37)

Thu Feb 8, 2018, 04:18 PM

PatSeg (33,763 posts)

45. Yeah that is pretty lame

Even in my wildest imagination, I wouldn't have come up with that explanation.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Thu Feb 8, 2018, 02:55 PM

Le Gaucher (1,547 posts)

20. That is their problem ..."Future Democrats" ..

Too bad .. had they been wanted to be "future Republicans" ..they would not be having any of these problems.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Thu Feb 8, 2018, 03:11 PM

appalachiablue (27,901 posts)

29. What disgusting, bigoted & offensive rot, shame on this paper

especially since NM has so many good people incl. noted Hispanic population.

Beautiful state, we've visited Alb., Santa Fe, Taos and the mountains many times.

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Thu Feb 8, 2018, 03:17 PM

triron (17,794 posts)

30. I live in Albuquerque. The newspaper has strangely (in my view)

gone out of its way to normalize Trump. It's republican owned but they have gone too far IMO.
I mostly just read the comics and the sports page. Front section is terrible.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Thu Feb 8, 2018, 03:22 PM

FakeNoose (15,388 posts)

31. I'm not sqeamish

...but it bothers me that we're displaying these cartoons on DU.
I wouldn't want anyone to think that we espouse this trash.

Shouldn't there be some kind of banner over the trashy cartoons, telling people that "we don't approve?"

Just sayin'

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Response to FakeNoose (Reply #31)

Thu Feb 8, 2018, 03:31 PM

Ligyron (5,396 posts)

36. I hear ya.

But, I think people need to know what we're up against and to what extent it is being mainstreamed.

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Response to FakeNoose (Reply #31)

Thu Feb 8, 2018, 03:49 PM

FakeNoose (15,388 posts)

41. Here is my suggestion

I don't believe in censorship, and it's important that we keep DU members informed of "what's out there."
But we also need to recognize that not all site visitors are members of DU or even share our liberal/progressive beliefs.
Some people do copy and share our materials on other websites and it's mostly out of our control.

So, let's take a step back and think this through. How do we feel about people seeing this racist cartoon here?
Does this bother anyone besides me?

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Response to FakeNoose (Reply #31)

Thu Feb 8, 2018, 04:24 PM

nini (16,412 posts)

48. "This insanely racist cartoon" - didn't that help?

The subject line called it out for what it was.

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Response to nini (Reply #48)

Thu Feb 8, 2018, 04:43 PM

FakeNoose (15,388 posts)

51. People copy the cartoon and send it to their friends

... and tell them, "Look what they're posting on Democratic Underground these days."
I'm not talking about our members doing it, other people come here too.
We can't predetermine their motives either.

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Response to FakeNoose (Reply #51)

Thu Feb 8, 2018, 05:25 PM

nini (16,412 posts)

61. Who cares what others do?

The haters are going to do what they want and twist things anyway.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Thu Feb 8, 2018, 03:22 PM

triron (17,794 posts)

32. Can you send this to Rachel Maddow?

rachel@msnbc.com

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Thu Feb 8, 2018, 03:42 PM

SpankMe (2,103 posts)

38. Well, I don't see this as racist

But the reference to "future Democrats" is too extreme for a mainstream newspaper. (The Journal is Albuquerque's main newspaper and has NM's biggest circulation.)

This cartoon is what passes as humor to conservatives and it belongs on the NRA's web site or on those dark, skanky white-is-right web sites or Breitbart or something. But, not in the Journal.

The Abq Journal does have a somewhat conservative editorial page, but it's otherwise a pretty clean paper news-wise. I'm surprised they'd run something like this, even in the op-ed section.

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Response to SpankMe (Reply #38)

Thu Feb 8, 2018, 04:41 PM

anneboleyn (5,522 posts)

50. How is it not racist? All dreamers are members of MS13?!

If the cartoon was of African-Americans and depicted them as all belonging to a gang (“honey they prefer to be called dreamers...not bloods” etc) wouldn’t that be an overt and obvious display of racism?

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Response to SpankMe (Reply #38)

Thu Feb 8, 2018, 04:47 PM

Cha (261,925 posts)

54. It's totally RACIST

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Response to SpankMe (Reply #38)

Thu Feb 8, 2018, 04:50 PM

Iggo (43,322 posts)

55. Well, you're wrong.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Thu Feb 8, 2018, 03:56 PM

syringis (5,101 posts)

42. This is truly disgusting

I have a much better depiction of reality :

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Response to syringis (Reply #42)

Thu Feb 8, 2018, 04:21 PM

PatSeg (33,763 posts)

46. Yes

Much more realistic.

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Response to syringis (Reply #42)

Thu Feb 8, 2018, 04:43 PM

anneboleyn (5,522 posts)

52. This cartoon is the Tucker Carlson garbage, a former neocon

now weirdly beloved by the alt-right because he spends part of every single show criticizing daca people in creepy racist ways.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Thu Feb 8, 2018, 04:07 PM

gopiscrap (21,060 posts)

43. assholes

I hope the people of ALB boycott this paper

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Thu Feb 8, 2018, 04:22 PM

progressoid (45,603 posts)

47. While he has done some anti-Trump toons, it looks like he's just a vile person

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Thu Feb 8, 2018, 04:45 PM

Cha (261,925 posts)

53. This is freaking Way Beyond the Next Level

.. This is fucking Stupid Racism and should get a monster Backlash.

Where is this paper.. anyone know?

Never mind..

https://www.abqjournal.com/

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Thu Feb 8, 2018, 04:56 PM

lunasun (20,179 posts)

58. Muslim terrorist, Latin gangs and a black cat . Racist trifecta

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Thu Feb 8, 2018, 05:05 PM

Dave Starsky (5,662 posts)

59. The cartooning is actually pretty competent.

From a technical standpoint, this guy is really not too bad. Maybe the editors were busy, and they keyed in on how his cartoons look instead of their actual content.

How someone with such artistic ability could also be such a huge douchebag is something that escapes me. Art springs from empathy. I have never been able to figure out how Richard Wagner could have composed his music. I love Wagner's music and detest him as a person at the same time.

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Thu Feb 8, 2018, 05:08 PM

GoCubsGo (24,857 posts)