Thu Feb 8, 2018, 12:45 PM
kpete (69,407 posts)
Wow. This insanely racist cartoon ran today in the ABQ Journal.
Wow. This insanely racist cartoon ran today in the @ABQJournal, my hometown newspaper and the first place I ever worked. The paper has always had a conservative editorial board, but this is next-level.
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Author | Time | Post |
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kpete | Feb 2018 | OP |
madaboutharry | Feb 2018 | #1 | |
Ken Burch | Feb 2018 | #26 | |
The Polack MSgt | Feb 2018 | #2 | |
Bernardo de La Paz | Feb 2018 | #25 | |
The Polack MSgt | Feb 2018 | #34 | |
Solly Mack | Feb 2018 | #3 | |
struggle4progress | Feb 2018 | #4 | |
bdamomma | Feb 2018 | #5 | |
HopeAgain | Feb 2018 | #6 | |
Downtown Hound | Feb 2018 | #7 | |
Ligyron | Feb 2018 | #33 | |
SCantiGOP | Feb 2018 | #10 | |
Hassin Bin Sober | Feb 2018 | #19 | |
Bernardo de La Paz | Feb 2018 | #22 | |
alittlelark | Feb 2018 | #8 | |
procon | Feb 2018 | #9 | |
Ken Burch | Feb 2018 | #24 | |
Cha | Feb 2018 | #56 | |
ALBliberal | Feb 2018 | #11 | |
Arkansas Granny | Feb 2018 | #12 | |
justhanginon | Feb 2018 | #39 | |
airmid | Feb 2018 | #13 | |
whathehell | Feb 2018 | #14 | |
aggiesal | Feb 2018 | #15 | |
Blue_Adept | Feb 2018 | #21 | |
cagefreesoylentgreen | Feb 2018 | #40 | |
They_Live | Feb 2018 | #23 | |
IronLionZion | Feb 2018 | #16 | |
Bernardo de La Paz | Feb 2018 | #27 | |
Ligyron | Feb 2018 | #35 | |
oasis | Feb 2018 | #49 | |
Cha | Feb 2018 | #57 | |
PatSeg | Feb 2018 | #17 | |
Bernardo de La Paz | Feb 2018 | #28 | |
PatSeg | Feb 2018 | #44 | |
tenderfoot | Feb 2018 | #18 | |
Egnever | Feb 2018 | #37 | |
PatSeg | Feb 2018 | #45 | |
Le Gaucher | Feb 2018 | #20 | |
appalachiablue | Feb 2018 | #29 | |
triron | Feb 2018 | #30 | |
FakeNoose | Feb 2018 | #31 | |
Ligyron | Feb 2018 | #36 | |
FakeNoose | Feb 2018 | #41 | |
nini | Feb 2018 | #48 | |
FakeNoose | Feb 2018 | #51 | |
nini | Feb 2018 | #61 | |
triron | Feb 2018 | #32 | |
SpankMe | Feb 2018 | #38 | |
anneboleyn | Feb 2018 | #50 | |
Cha | Feb 2018 | #54 | |
Iggo | Feb 2018 | #55 | |
syringis | Feb 2018 | #42 | |
PatSeg | Feb 2018 | #46 | |
anneboleyn | Feb 2018 | #52 | |
gopiscrap | Feb 2018 | #43 | |
progressoid | Feb 2018 | #47 | |
Cha | Feb 2018 | #53 | |
lunasun | Feb 2018 | #58 | |
Dave Starsky | Feb 2018 | #59 | |
GoCubsGo | Feb 2018 | #60 | |
left-of-center2012 | Feb 2018 | #62 | |
triron | Feb 2018 | #63 | |
left-of-center2012 | Feb 2018 | #64 |
Response to kpete (Original post)
Thu Feb 8, 2018, 12:47 PM
madaboutharry (38,302 posts)
1. They should rename the paper.
It should be called the ABQ Deplorable.
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Response to madaboutharry (Reply #1)
Thu Feb 8, 2018, 03:08 PM
Ken Burch (50,254 posts)
26. Or the ABQ Urinal.
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Response to kpete (Original post)
Thu Feb 8, 2018, 12:48 PM
The Polack MSgt (11,367 posts)
2. This is the perfect snapshot of todays Republian's mind
Hate filled racist and nonsensical.
It's accidentally genius |
Response to The Polack MSgt (Reply #2)
Thu Feb 8, 2018, 03:03 PM
Bernardo de La Paz (41,861 posts)
25. Not accidental. Carefully plotted propaganda. MS13 & terrorists nothing to do with DACA dreamers. nt
Response to Bernardo de La Paz (Reply #25)
Thu Feb 8, 2018, 03:26 PM
The Polack MSgt (11,367 posts)
34. Yeah, it purposely pushes teh agenda, that's not the accident
The "accidentally genius" part is the window into the minds of these racist shitstains.
The cartoonist figures he's just throwing out some red meat to keep Republicans churning... But anyone with the eyes to see can read that toon, see the symbols (the black cats,the rats, the crow), follow the dialog and truly get a glimpse at the fear and loathing that colors every facet of what passes for thought among the lot of them. Hateful because of their fears, fearful because of their ignorance and ignorant because they choose the easy answer that agrees with what they already believe. |
Response to kpete (Original post)
Thu Feb 8, 2018, 12:50 PM
struggle4progress (114,518 posts)
4. What advertisers brought you today's Two Minute Hate?
Response to kpete (Original post)
Thu Feb 8, 2018, 12:50 PM
bdamomma (61,542 posts)
5. Horrible
pitting people against people.
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Response to kpete (Original post)
Thu Feb 8, 2018, 01:07 PM
HopeAgain (4,407 posts)
6. The artist's email is
[email protected] Let him know how you feel..
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Response to HopeAgain (Reply #6)
Thu Feb 8, 2018, 01:11 PM
Downtown Hound (12,618 posts)
7. He still uses aol?
That right there tells me everything I need to know about him.
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Response to HopeAgain (Reply #6)
Thu Feb 8, 2018, 01:23 PM
SCantiGOP (12,443 posts)
10. I think going after the cartoonist is the 3rd strategy
#2 would be to complain to the paper, but the best would be to reference the cartoon in going after the paper's advertisers.
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Response to SCantiGOP (Reply #10)
Thu Feb 8, 2018, 02:52 PM
Hassin Bin Sober (25,061 posts)
19. Yep. Every single advertiser needs to see this and be asked their opinion
Response to SCantiGOP (Reply #10)
Thu Feb 8, 2018, 03:01 PM
Bernardo de La Paz (41,861 posts)
22. email of the opinions Editor who chooses cartoons is in the tweet flow. . . . nt
Response to kpete (Original post)
Thu Feb 8, 2018, 01:16 PM
alittlelark (18,666 posts)
8. The Abq. Journal is a RW rag - has been for years.
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Response to kpete (Original post)
Thu Feb 8, 2018, 01:19 PM
procon (15,805 posts)
9. "New Mexico has the highest percentage of Hispanic ancestry, at 47 percent."
I just googled up that little factoid. With newspapers fading from the American scene, its kinda beyond stupid for the publisher to deliberately decide that promoting a racist ideology that appeals to white supremacists, and alienating almost half their potential customer base, would be good for business. The paper is not only insulting their own subscribers, but the advertisers who paid for that large readership who might see their ads.
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Response to procon (Reply #9)
Thu Feb 8, 2018, 03:03 PM
Ken Burch (50,254 posts)
24. Pretty sure they're going to end up backing some sort of linguistic/cultural apartheid for NM.
n/t.
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Response to procon (Reply #9)
Thu Feb 8, 2018, 04:54 PM
Cha (276,881 posts)
56. It is Beyond Stupid.. I said
so in my post, too.
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Response to kpete (Original post)
Thu Feb 8, 2018, 01:49 PM
ALBliberal (1,842 posts)
11. After a 30 year subscription to the ABQ journal...
We let the the subscription lapse last month but were reconsidering as my husband loves the sports page and generally the routine of grabbing the paper each morning and reading before work etc.
But seeing this disgraceful display of racism seals our decision. We won't resubscribe to the ABQ Journal. |
Response to kpete (Original post)
Thu Feb 8, 2018, 02:11 PM
Arkansas Granny (30,594 posts)
12. It's hard to believe that any publication would allow this to run. Shameful.
Response to Arkansas Granny (Reply #12)
Thu Feb 8, 2018, 03:42 PM
justhanginon (3,058 posts)
39. Yep! Welcome to trump's version of America.
This will only get worse and worse as more of these cretins feel like they have been empowered by the current resident of the White House.
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Response to kpete (Original post)
Thu Feb 8, 2018, 02:36 PM
whathehell (27,093 posts)
14. Geez, yeah..
Hard to believe they could get away with that in a state with such a large Hispanic population.
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Response to kpete (Original post)
Thu Feb 8, 2018, 02:37 PM
aggiesal (7,114 posts)
15. The artist is at ...
http://seandelonas.com/index.html
Maybe New Mexicans should write the Albq. Journal and let them have it for propagating hateful stereotypes. This should be highly offensive to everyone, especially anyone who is of Hispanic descent. I lived in New Mexico during college years. |
Response to aggiesal (Reply #15)
Thu Feb 8, 2018, 03:00 PM
Blue_Adept (6,327 posts)
21. He's on Twitter as well
Response to Blue_Adept (Reply #21)
Thu Feb 8, 2018, 03:46 PM
cagefreesoylentgreen (799 posts)
40. He has previous cartoons there
My god, that’s some ugly art.
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Response to aggiesal (Reply #15)
Thu Feb 8, 2018, 03:03 PM
They_Live (3,032 posts)
23. Hey
he's got a phone number listed at that link.
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Response to kpete (Original post)
Thu Feb 8, 2018, 02:38 PM
IronLionZion (39,001 posts)
16. The largest paper in the state wants to insult Dreamers and Democrats
sounds like they would lose subscribers and advertisers because of this. Dems have the majority of voter registrations there and advertisers might want to keep their customers.
And it doesn't make any sense. Dreamers lose DACA protection if they commit a crime. Crime is still bad when committed by Americans. Why is there a guy standing to the side with a sword and dynamite? After MS-13 robs the nice white people a terrorist will blow himself up in a dark alley at night? ![]() |
Response to IronLionZion (Reply #16)
Thu Feb 8, 2018, 03:09 PM
Bernardo de La Paz (41,861 posts)
27. Cartoonist Delonas has a history of racism. Unable/unwilling to learn from mistakes.
This cartoon was two days after cops killed an escaped chimpanzee from a zoo and one day after Obama signed a big economic stimulus bill. ![]() |
Response to Bernardo de La Paz (Reply #27)
Thu Feb 8, 2018, 03:28 PM
Ligyron (6,561 posts)
35. WTF?
How they get away with that?
Jeez... |
Response to Bernardo de La Paz (Reply #27)
Thu Feb 8, 2018, 04:36 PM
oasis (48,626 posts)
49. That's enough to have the local D.A. get a warrant for police dogs
to sniff the artist's basement for buried corpses. The guy's an obvious sicko.
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Response to Bernardo de La Paz (Reply #27)
Thu Feb 8, 2018, 04:56 PM
Cha (276,881 posts)
57. For Christ Sake!
Response to kpete (Original post)
Thu Feb 8, 2018, 02:38 PM
PatSeg (42,740 posts)
17. Oh my god
Who on earth authorized that? Looks like something you'd expect to see on Breitbart.
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Response to PatSeg (Reply #17)
Thu Feb 8, 2018, 03:10 PM
Bernardo de La Paz (41,861 posts)
28. Her email (opinions editor) is in a reply series in that Twitter thread. . . . nt
Response to Bernardo de La Paz (Reply #28)
Thu Feb 8, 2018, 04:16 PM
PatSeg (42,740 posts)
44. Thank you
Response to kpete (Original post)
Thu Feb 8, 2018, 02:48 PM
tenderfoot (7,575 posts)
18. They're totally getting their asses handed back to them on twitter
Response to tenderfoot (Reply #18)
Thu Feb 8, 2018, 03:35 PM
Egnever (21,506 posts)
37. yea the apology is pretty odd as well.
Political cartoons are often satire and poke at more than one point of view. I do not presume to know what cartoonist Sean Delonas was trying to convey in his cartoon that was published in Wednesday’s Albuquerque Journal. But on one level it appeared to us to be poking at President Trump’s rhetoric by portraying a quaking Republican couple who were painting Dreamers with a broad, totally false, brush.
Who in the hell could interpret the cartoon that way? |
Response to Egnever (Reply #37)
Thu Feb 8, 2018, 04:18 PM
PatSeg (42,740 posts)
45. Yeah that is pretty lame
Even in my wildest imagination, I wouldn't have come up with that explanation.
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Response to kpete (Original post)
Thu Feb 8, 2018, 02:55 PM
Le Gaucher (1,547 posts)
20. That is their problem ..."Future Democrats" ..
Too bad .. had they been wanted to be "future Republicans" ..they would not be having any of these problems.
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Response to kpete (Original post)
Thu Feb 8, 2018, 03:11 PM
appalachiablue (36,467 posts)
29. What disgusting, bigoted & offensive rot, shame on this paper
especially since NM has so many good people incl. noted Hispanic population.
Beautiful state, we've visited Alb., Santa Fe, Taos and the mountains many times. |
Response to kpete (Original post)
Thu Feb 8, 2018, 03:17 PM
triron (20,131 posts)
30. I live in Albuquerque. The newspaper has strangely (in my view)
gone out of its way to normalize Trump. It's republican owned but they have gone too far IMO.
I mostly just read the comics and the sports page. Front section is terrible. |
Response to kpete (Original post)
Thu Feb 8, 2018, 03:22 PM
FakeNoose (24,194 posts)
31. I'm not sqeamish
...but it bothers me that we're displaying these cartoons on DU.
I wouldn't want anyone to think that we espouse this trash. Shouldn't there be some kind of banner over the trashy cartoons, telling people that "we don't approve?" Just sayin' ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Response to FakeNoose (Reply #31)
Thu Feb 8, 2018, 03:31 PM
Ligyron (6,561 posts)
36. I hear ya.
But, I think people need to know what we're up against and to what extent it is being mainstreamed.
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Response to FakeNoose (Reply #31)
Thu Feb 8, 2018, 03:49 PM
FakeNoose (24,194 posts)
41. Here is my suggestion
![]() I don't believe in censorship, and it's important that we keep DU members informed of "what's out there." But we also need to recognize that not all site visitors are members of DU or even share our liberal/progressive beliefs. Some people do copy and share our materials on other websites and it's mostly out of our control. So, let's take a step back and think this through. How do we feel about people seeing this racist cartoon here? Does this bother anyone besides me? |
Response to FakeNoose (Reply #31)
Thu Feb 8, 2018, 04:24 PM
nini (16,520 posts)
48. "This insanely racist cartoon" - didn't that help?
The subject line called it out for what it was.
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Response to nini (Reply #48)
Thu Feb 8, 2018, 04:43 PM
FakeNoose (24,194 posts)
51. People copy the cartoon and send it to their friends
... and tell them, "Look what they're posting on Democratic Underground these days."
I'm not talking about our members doing it, other people come here too. We can't predetermine their motives either. ![]() ![]() |
Response to FakeNoose (Reply #51)
Thu Feb 8, 2018, 05:25 PM
nini (16,520 posts)
61. Who cares what others do?
The haters are going to do what they want and twist things anyway.
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Response to kpete (Original post)
Thu Feb 8, 2018, 03:22 PM
triron (20,131 posts)
32. Can you send this to Rachel Maddow?
Response to kpete (Original post)
Thu Feb 8, 2018, 03:42 PM
SpankMe (2,542 posts)
38. Well, I don't see this as racist
But the reference to "future Democrats" is too extreme for a mainstream newspaper. (The Journal is Albuquerque's main newspaper and has NM's biggest circulation.)
This cartoon is what passes as humor to conservatives and it belongs on the NRA's web site or on those dark, skanky white-is-right web sites or Breitbart or something. But, not in the Journal. The Abq Journal does have a somewhat conservative editorial page, but it's otherwise a pretty clean paper news-wise. I'm surprised they'd run something like this, even in the op-ed section. |
Response to SpankMe (Reply #38)
Thu Feb 8, 2018, 04:41 PM
anneboleyn (5,611 posts)
50. How is it not racist? All dreamers are members of MS13?!
If the cartoon was of African-Americans and depicted them as all belonging to a gang (“honey they prefer to be called dreamers...not bloods” etc) wouldn’t that be an overt and obvious display of racism?
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Response to SpankMe (Reply #38)
Thu Feb 8, 2018, 04:47 PM
Cha (276,881 posts)
54. It's totally RACIST
Response to SpankMe (Reply #38)
Thu Feb 8, 2018, 04:50 PM
Iggo (45,692 posts)
55. Well, you're wrong.
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Response to kpete (Original post)
Thu Feb 8, 2018, 03:56 PM
syringis (5,101 posts)
42. This is truly disgusting
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Response to syringis (Reply #42)
Thu Feb 8, 2018, 04:21 PM
PatSeg (42,740 posts)
46. Yes
Much more realistic.
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Response to syringis (Reply #42)
Thu Feb 8, 2018, 04:43 PM
anneboleyn (5,611 posts)
52. This cartoon is the Tucker Carlson garbage, a former neocon
now weirdly beloved by the alt-right because he spends part of every single show criticizing daca people in creepy racist ways.
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Response to kpete (Original post)
Thu Feb 8, 2018, 04:07 PM
gopiscrap (22,435 posts)
43. assholes
I hope the people of ALB boycott this paper
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Response to kpete (Original post)
Thu Feb 8, 2018, 04:22 PM
progressoid (46,849 posts)
47. While he has done some anti-Trump toons, it looks like he's just a vile person
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Response to kpete (Original post)
Thu Feb 8, 2018, 04:45 PM
Cha (276,881 posts)
53. This is freaking Way Beyond the Next Level
.. This is fucking Stupid Racism and should get a monster Backlash.
Where is this paper.. anyone know? Never mind.. https://www.abqjournal.com/ |
Response to kpete (Original post)
Thu Feb 8, 2018, 04:56 PM
lunasun (21,646 posts)
58. Muslim terrorist, Latin gangs and a black cat . Racist trifecta
Response to kpete (Original post)
Thu Feb 8, 2018, 05:05 PM
Dave Starsky (5,914 posts)
59. The cartooning is actually pretty competent.
From a technical standpoint, this guy is really not too bad. Maybe the editors were busy, and they keyed in on how his cartoons look instead of their actual content.
How someone with such artistic ability could also be such a huge douchebag is something that escapes me. Art springs from empathy. I have never been able to figure out how Richard Wagner could have composed his music. I love Wagner's music and detest him as a person at the same time. |
Response to kpete (Original post)
Thu Feb 8, 2018, 05:08 PM
GoCubsGo (29,229 posts)
60. Wow. That's the kind of crap I would expect from my local fish wrap.
I live in the town where Lee Atwater grew up, if that gives you any idea of what the local newspaper is like.
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Response to kpete (Original post)
Thu Feb 8, 2018, 05:55 PM
left-of-center2012 (34,150 posts)
62. I live in Albuquerque
The paper has always been right wing.
We've had a GOP city administration, GOP led city council, and GOP Governor for the past eight years. |
Response to left-of-center2012 (Reply #62)
Thu Feb 8, 2018, 06:00 PM
triron (20,131 posts)
63. at least now we have a dem mayor.
hoping we get a dem governor in 2019.
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Response to triron (Reply #63)
Thu Feb 8, 2018, 07:31 PM
left-of-center2012 (34,150 posts)
64. And a Dem majority city council
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