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Wed Jan 31, 2018, 05:33 PM

Rumor: "Melania wants to talk to Mueller"

Only a rumor, allegedly coming from a DC lawyer who is plugged in, saying this.


Anybody here, have you heard anything like this?

I am not saying it is true but I hear the rumor and want to find out if anybody else has heard it.

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Reply Rumor: "Melania wants to talk to Mueller" (Original post)
Eliot Rosewater Jan 2018 OP
Proud Liberal Dem Jan 2018 #1
Eliot Rosewater Jan 2018 #3
Me. Jan 2018 #45
Eliot Rosewater Jan 2018 #46
marlakay Jan 2018 #47
Eliot Rosewater Jan 2018 #48
tanyev Jan 2018 #2
jodymarie aimee Jan 2018 #4
Tipperary Jan 2018 #18
NightWatcher Jan 2018 #5
Eliot Rosewater Jan 2018 #8
GallopingGhost Jan 2018 #22
Eliot Rosewater Jan 2018 #23
GallopingGhost Jan 2018 #24
GeorgeGist Jan 2018 #38
Eliot Rosewater Jan 2018 #39
marylandblue Jan 2018 #42
Eliot Rosewater Jan 2018 #44
GallopingGhost Jan 2018 #59
smirkymonkey Jan 2018 #60
fifthoffive Jan 2018 #9
NightWatcher Jan 2018 #13
Dem_4_Life Jan 2018 #21
klook Jan 2018 #57
Dem_4_Life Jan 2018 #61
djg21 Jan 2018 #49
Yonnie3 Jan 2018 #14
Flaleftist Jan 2018 #25
Yonnie3 Jan 2018 #27
LanternWaste Jan 2018 #20
The Velveteen Ocelot Jan 2018 #54
The Velveteen Ocelot Jan 2018 #34
lagomorph777 Jan 2018 #6
Dem_4_Life Jan 2018 #7
spanone Jan 2018 #10
Eliot Rosewater Jan 2018 #12
Tipperary Jan 2018 #11
melman Jan 2018 #15
Eliot Rosewater Jan 2018 #17
Bonx Jan 2018 #16
UTUSN Jan 2018 #19
Flaleftist Jan 2018 #26
Kingofalldems Jan 2018 #28
Eliot Rosewater Jan 2018 #29
Kingofalldems Jan 2018 #30
Eliot Rosewater Jan 2018 #31
Flaleftist Jan 2018 #32
Dem_4_Life Jan 2018 #35
Dem_4_Life Jan 2018 #36
left-of-center2012 Jan 2018 #33
Tipperary Jan 2018 #62
left-of-center2012 Jan 2018 #63
Tipperary Jan 2018 #65
C_U_L8R Jan 2018 #37
Honeycombe8 Jan 2018 #40
pintobean Jan 2018 #64
enid602 Jan 2018 #41
SammyWinstonJack Jan 2018 #43
eleny Jan 2018 #50
Eliot Rosewater Jan 2018 #51
eleny Jan 2018 #52
Eliot Rosewater Jan 2018 #53
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eleny Jan 2018 #56
trueblue2007 Jan 2018 #55
no_hypocrisy Jan 2018 #58

Response to Eliot Rosewater (Original post)

Wed Jan 31, 2018, 05:37 PM

1. About what? In what capacity?

Be there to cover for him or something? Provide evidence?

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Response to Proud Liberal Dem (Reply #1)

Wed Jan 31, 2018, 05:39 PM

3. Implication my source gave was against hubby, but it is all very

gray at the moment.

I just wondered if anyone else heard the rumor, especially our plugged in members, DC people, etc.

check this out


http://www.msnbc.com/morning-joe/watch/first-lady-melania-trump-compares-white-house-to-political-prison-1066288195691?playlist=associated

unrelated but gives context, sort of

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Response to Eliot Rosewater (Reply #3)

Wed Jan 31, 2018, 07:08 PM

45. Then She Should Just Go Away & Stop Costing Us Millions

if she considers it a prison

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Response to Me. (Reply #45)

Wed Jan 31, 2018, 07:08 PM

46. Agreed. Her continued marriage to him is license to him to continue to destroy

lives.

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Response to Eliot Rosewater (Reply #3)

Wed Jan 31, 2018, 07:09 PM

47. A lot of presidents have said

It is sort of like a prison because they can’t leave anytime to go where they want.

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Response to marlakay (Reply #47)

Wed Jan 31, 2018, 07:09 PM

48. Not in the same way she is saying it or with the same history she has with being disgusted

with him.

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Response to Eliot Rosewater (Original post)

Wed Jan 31, 2018, 05:37 PM

2. Sweet Schadenfreude, make it so.

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Response to Eliot Rosewater (Original post)

Wed Jan 31, 2018, 05:40 PM

4. Eliot..

 

you my friend, are connected..

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Response to jodymarie aimee (Reply #4)

Wed Jan 31, 2018, 05:49 PM

18. I seriously doubt this is the case.

 

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Response to Eliot Rosewater (Original post)

Wed Jan 31, 2018, 05:40 PM

5. thanks for setting me straight re spousal privilege

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Response to NightWatcher (Reply #5)

Wed Jan 31, 2018, 05:42 PM

8. I thought of that, she doesnt necessarily know that plus what she said could be used

to form the referral though.

Remember, there is NO chance of trump being indicted. Best case is a referral to congress, which until patriots take over is meaningless.

If it turned out she wanted to provide cover for him, I will vomit at the site of her from now on.

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Response to Eliot Rosewater (Reply #8)

Wed Jan 31, 2018, 06:06 PM

22. No chance of Trump being indicted?

Did I miss an article or thread about his? I haven't been able to keep up with the news much the last few days.

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Response to GallopingGhost (Reply #22)

Wed Jan 31, 2018, 06:07 PM

23. DOJ has a rule they wont do it, long time rule. This has been discussed.

NY might indict him though.

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Response to Eliot Rosewater (Reply #23)

Wed Jan 31, 2018, 06:09 PM

24. Sure hope it's more than "might."

Things feel so bleak right now.

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Response to Eliot Rosewater (Reply #23)

Wed Jan 31, 2018, 06:46 PM

38. Mueller's can bypass DOJ if he chooses to.

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Response to GeorgeGist (Reply #38)

Wed Jan 31, 2018, 06:49 PM

39. Can you link me to that please, not questioning you but I need the source.

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Response to Eliot Rosewater (Reply #23)

Wed Jan 31, 2018, 07:06 PM

42. It's been discussed but not answered

There isn't a rule about it, there is an Office of Legal Counsel opinion about it. That's different, and although the opinions are supposed to be binding on DOJ as a whole, they aren't binding on the Attorney General, or in this case, Rosenstein.

As a separate issue, DOJ rules and opinions are not binding on courts. So if Mueller does go ahead and violate the rule, the court will decide whether the opinion is correct or not. The two times it came up, with Nixon and Clinton, the OLC decided that the president couldn't be indicted, but the Special Counsel's staff disagreed and indictment was never pursued, so we never found out who was right.

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Response to marylandblue (Reply #42)

Wed Jan 31, 2018, 07:08 PM

44. Too bad the GOP arent patriots, if they were this whole thing could be cleared up in a day.

An impeachment day.

If you reverse this and it is a dem, both parties do that day one.

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Response to marylandblue (Reply #42)

Wed Jan 31, 2018, 07:29 PM

59. After I posted I

remembered seeing a panel on CNN recently discussing the indictment issue, with a range of responses ranging from yes, his treasonous ass absolutely can be indicted to no, he can't.

I think the scope of criminal activity and treason is bigger than most people realize, and it's going to be an uncharted shit show.

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Response to marylandblue (Reply #42)

Wed Jan 31, 2018, 07:33 PM

60. Good to know.

I know it's a long shot, but it's nice to know that it's not impossible. I have to be optimistic or I would lose my mind.

Thanks for the info!

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Response to NightWatcher (Reply #5)

Wed Jan 31, 2018, 05:42 PM

9. I'm not a lawyer,

and I don't play one on TV. I think a spouse cannot be compelled to testify against a spouse, but they can volunteer to do so if they wish.

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Response to fifthoffive (Reply #9)

Wed Jan 31, 2018, 05:45 PM

13. you're right

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Response to fifthoffive (Reply #9)

Wed Jan 31, 2018, 05:55 PM

21. True and ...

Who knows maybe she is planning on NOT being a spouse in the NEAR future!

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Response to Dem_4_Life (Reply #21)

Wed Jan 31, 2018, 07:23 PM

57. Yes, she's going to marry

Trey Gowdy, her true soulmate!



Who knows? The way things are going, it seems as plausible as anything else!

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Response to klook (Reply #57)

Wed Jan 31, 2018, 08:00 PM

61. LOL OMG

I wouldn't be surprised the way things are going!

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Response to fifthoffive (Reply #9)

Wed Jan 31, 2018, 07:10 PM

49. It depends.

 

There are actually two different privileges: one for marital communications; and another covering testimony as to any adverse facts no matter how the testifying spouse learns of them.

There is a discussion of the privileges in the context of a 7th Circuit Court of Appeals decision at http://federalevidence.com/blog/2013/august/neither-marital-communications-privilege-nor-adverse-spousal-testimonial-privilege-

I doubt she’d have anything useful even if she did agree to speak to Mueller. The only reason she’d offer speak to him is to have some leverage to undue the prenup she undoubtedly was forced to sign when she agreed to marry the fat old dumbfuck.

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Response to NightWatcher (Reply #5)

Wed Jan 31, 2018, 05:46 PM

14. Spousal Privilege

I thought that meant she could not be compelled to testify against him.

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Response to Yonnie3 (Reply #14)

Wed Jan 31, 2018, 06:12 PM

25. Yes. Im pretty sure that is accurate.

She can willingly testify.

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Response to Flaleftist (Reply #25)

Wed Jan 31, 2018, 06:15 PM

27. Divorces would be tough otherwise! n/t

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Response to NightWatcher (Reply #5)

Wed Jan 31, 2018, 05:54 PM

20. Spousal Privilege applies to court cases, so possibly her testimony during the investigation

Spousal Privilege applies to court cases, so possibly her testimony during the investigation (or even in front of a Grand Jury) may be allowed.

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Response to LanternWaste (Reply #20)

Wed Jan 31, 2018, 07:16 PM

54. See #34. It doesn't apply to prevent Melania from testifying if she wants to,

because the privilege belongs to her and she can waive it. In any event, the whole purpose of Mueller's investigation is for possible criminal prosecutions in court.

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Response to NightWatcher (Reply #5)

Wed Jan 31, 2018, 06:25 PM

34. Spousal privilege only means a person can't be *forced* to testify

against a spouse about communications between them. The privilege belongs to the witness spouse and not the party spouse and can be waived, meaning that the witness-spouse can testify against the other spouse if she wants to. In other words, if Melania wants to talk to Mueller about her icky husband she can, and icky husband can't claim the privilege to protect himself. However, without better attribution I'm not expecting this to happen.

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Response to Eliot Rosewater (Original post)

Wed Jan 31, 2018, 05:40 PM

6. She heard he's the smartest lawyer in town,

and it looks like she'll be needing one in a civil case soon...

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Response to Eliot Rosewater (Original post)

Wed Jan 31, 2018, 05:41 PM

7. Oh please please please be TRUE



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Response to Eliot Rosewater (Original post)

Wed Jan 31, 2018, 05:42 PM

10. is mueller a divorce lawyer on the side?

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Response to spanone (Reply #10)

Wed Jan 31, 2018, 05:43 PM

12. LOL

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Response to Eliot Rosewater (Original post)

Wed Jan 31, 2018, 05:42 PM

11. I call BS. This is irresponsible to post unsubstantiated nonsense like this.

 

A “rumor” , uh huh. “Allegedly” coming from a “DC lawyer” who is “plugged in.” What lawyer? A traffic court lawyer? An estate lawyer? A criminal lawyer? A corporate lawyer? You “hear” the rumor - what does that mean? Someone told you? A little bird? The lawyer him or herself? A wandering town crier?

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Response to Eliot Rosewater (Original post)

Wed Jan 31, 2018, 05:47 PM

15. The source of this rumor

 

is a dentist in North Carolina.








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Response to melman (Reply #15)

Wed Jan 31, 2018, 05:49 PM

17. The person I got it from implied she knew the source, this would imply otherwise.

Thanks for the find.

Probably meaningless.

We need to be prepared for anything, though.

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Response to Eliot Rosewater (Original post)

Wed Jan 31, 2018, 05:48 PM

16. I've heard some rumors.

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Response to Eliot Rosewater (Original post)

Wed Jan 31, 2018, 05:49 PM

19. It's our duty to assist this patriot. How can we ask the pretzeldunt to make resources available?!1

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Response to Eliot Rosewater (Original post)

Wed Jan 31, 2018, 06:14 PM

26. Ha! Please be true. Hell hath no fury....

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Response to Eliot Rosewater (Original post)

Wed Jan 31, 2018, 06:16 PM

28. Why did she and Trump come to the SOTU in seperate cars?

Is this the protocol?

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Response to Kingofalldems (Reply #28)

Wed Jan 31, 2018, 06:17 PM

29. If you hate your husband, it is.

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Response to Eliot Rosewater (Reply #29)

Wed Jan 31, 2018, 06:19 PM

30. Now that is effed up

and no one in the press seem concerned.

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Response to Kingofalldems (Reply #30)

Wed Jan 31, 2018, 06:19 PM

31. Of course not. The guy said nazis were good people, they allow him to do anything

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Response to Kingofalldems (Reply #28)

Wed Jan 31, 2018, 06:20 PM

32. Ive read they neither of them were wearing their wedding bands.

I’m not sure if that has been confirmed.

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Response to Flaleftist (Reply #32)

Wed Jan 31, 2018, 06:26 PM

35. I noticed she wasn't wearing hers when the camera zoomed in

Which was very telling.

I really didn't pay attention to if he was wearing his or not. I tried not to really look when he was on the screen.

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Response to Flaleftist (Reply #32)

Wed Jan 31, 2018, 06:32 PM

36. Going back Googling pictures it is hard to say for sure about Melania not wearing hers.

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Response to Eliot Rosewater (Original post)

Wed Jan 31, 2018, 06:21 PM

33. "Only a rumor, allegedly coming from ..."

Good grief, Charlie Brown.

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Response to left-of-center2012 (Reply #33)

Wed Jan 31, 2018, 08:14 PM

62. Thank you. So many wanting to believe. Wishful thinking is one thing.

 

But this is plain silly. I could post anything like this: “my banker told me that her hairdresser knows the barber who cuts the hair of a “plugged in” aide to a highly placed WH staffer. And the aide said - blah blah blah. We all want this administration to be gone forever, but this kind of stuff just is ridiculous.

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Response to Tipperary (Reply #62)

Wed Jan 31, 2018, 08:21 PM

63. RUMOR: world ends tomorrow !

I heard it in the grocery store !

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Response to left-of-center2012 (Reply #63)

Wed Jan 31, 2018, 08:50 PM

65. Lol. Yes. I will not be holding my breath over this rumor.

 

We should be smarter than this.

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Response to Eliot Rosewater (Original post)

Wed Jan 31, 2018, 06:42 PM

37. Most likely, Melania's under a restrictive NDA

but that cannot prevent her from testifying.
Perhaps she's figured that this may be the best way to get her story out...
and get even with the philandering cheez doodle at the same time.

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Response to Eliot Rosewater (Original post)

Wed Jan 31, 2018, 06:52 PM

40. Nonsense. nt

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Response to Honeycombe8 (Reply #40)

Wed Jan 31, 2018, 08:43 PM

64. That's being kind

 

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Response to Eliot Rosewater (Original post)

Wed Jan 31, 2018, 06:58 PM

41. StRumpet

Maybe tRump plans to use her as a gift or bribe for Mueller.

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Response to Eliot Rosewater (Original post)

Wed Jan 31, 2018, 07:07 PM

43. Probably shouldn't have pissed off Natasha with a pay out to a porn star.

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Response to Eliot Rosewater (Original post)

Wed Jan 31, 2018, 07:10 PM

50. This sounds like a distraction

Shiny keys gossip to keep us occupied.

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Response to eleny (Reply #50)

Wed Jan 31, 2018, 07:11 PM

51. You should make it clear you are NOT accusing ME of trying to distract!

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Response to Eliot Rosewater (Reply #51)

Wed Jan 31, 2018, 07:14 PM

52. You? Never!

It's the rumor put out there that has me squinty eyed.

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Response to eleny (Reply #52)

Wed Jan 31, 2018, 07:15 PM

53. Thanks, and yes anything like that is possible.

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Response to Eliot Rosewater (Reply #53)

Wed Jan 31, 2018, 07:17 PM

56. !

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Response to Eliot Rosewater (Original post)

Wed Jan 31, 2018, 07:16 PM

55. i hope she spills her guts and incriminates TRUMP .... info that will put him in JAIL forever.

#LockUpAllTheTrumps

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Response to Eliot Rosewater (Original post)

Wed Jan 31, 2018, 07:23 PM

58. Then Melania better lock her bedroom door at night.

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