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Saviolo

(3,280 posts)
Wed Jan 31, 2018, 03:10 PM Jan 2018

GQ: Donald Trump Spent His First State of the Union Taking Credit for Barack Obamas Accomplishments

Full article here: https://www.gq.com/story/donald-trump-sotu-2018


Donald Trump delivered his first State of the Union address to Congress on Tuesday night, convincingly demonstrating to the entire world that he is, contrary to popular belief, a functional adult who is capable of reading patriotic bromides from a teleprompter for 80 minutes without going on a white-supremacist tangent. But during the parts of his speech in which the president glowingly touted some of the more noteworthy accomplishments of his first year in office, I couldn't help but notice that many of them shared a certain common thread. Let's go through the transcript together and see if you, too, can spot it.

Since the election, we have created 2.4 million new jobs...

The United States has yet to experience a single month of net job loss since October 2010. Barack Obama was president then.


...including 200,000 new jobs in manufacturing alone.

Manufacturing jobs in this country have been slowly but gradually increasing since 2010. Barack Obama was president then.


After years of wage stagnation, we are finally seeing rising wages.

Inflation-adjusted wages have been steadily on the rise since 2014. Barack Obama was president then.

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GQ: Donald Trump Spent His First State of the Union Taking Credit for Barack Obamas Accomplishments (Original Post) Saviolo Jan 2018 OP
off to greatest with you niyad Jan 2018 #1
K&R for visibility. nt tblue37 Jan 2018 #2
K & R LiberalLovinLug Jan 2018 #3
.. Kittycow Jan 2018 #4
Yeah, I said that last night... Cha Jan 2018 #5
Not only that... Saviolo Jan 2018 #8
I know.. he's a little jealous, pouty Cha Jan 2018 #9
it's worse than that malaise Jan 2018 #14
UNbelievable ailsagirl Jan 2018 #6
Fucking Asshole! maveric Jan 2018 #7
There's that. Cha Jan 2018 #15
K&R! secondwind Jan 2018 #10
I am Jack's total lack of surprise... Moostache Jan 2018 #11
wELL OF course he did, he is a flim flam man... yuiyoshida Jan 2018 #12
WaPo had their fact-checking going too and relating to the OP theme, you have this- BumRushDaShow Jan 2018 #13

Cha

(297,149 posts)
5. Yeah, I said that last night...
Wed Jan 31, 2018, 04:01 PM
Jan 2018

Cha

3. How the fuck dare he.. take credit for progress in the Obama years. Never mind.. I know.. that's all he does. he can't do anything on his own. Just ask Russia.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=10168195

Mahalo, GQ.. for pointing this out in such grand detail.

Mahalo, Saviolo

Saviolo

(3,280 posts)
8. Not only that...
Wed Jan 31, 2018, 04:49 PM
Jan 2018

But whatever he doesn't take credit for from the Obama years he's working his damndest to try to erase utterly! Ridiculous manchild.

Cha

(297,149 posts)
9. I know.. he's a little jealous, pouty
Wed Jan 31, 2018, 04:57 PM
Jan 2018

bad seed.. utterly obsessed with President Obama and Hillary.

malaise

(268,930 posts)
14. it's worse than that
Wed Jan 31, 2018, 06:46 PM
Jan 2018

He denigrated Obama and called similar date data LIES. Now he claims it for himself.

Moostache

(9,895 posts)
11. I am Jack's total lack of surprise...
Wed Jan 31, 2018, 05:17 PM
Jan 2018

Trump is crowing about the economy and "his" tax cuts as if they are actually effecting the economy in real time...these things were passed a month and a half ago? Yeah, I'm sure that's exactly why the economy is showing good results for some today.

The current economic conditions are no more Trump's credit than the massive job losses of October - December 2008 that extended into January through April of 2009 were Obama's fault...difference is that Obama became president, implemented a massive stimulus package and direct assistance to the auto sector to prevent its total collapse into bankruptcy and that DID stem the losses in jobs and DID set us on a proper recovery trajectory, but it did not start immediately...

Here is the chart that illustrates this:


The key take away is that there is a lag between a policy announcement and implementation and the result of it being felt in the real world...the stimulus slowed and then reversed the job losses over a year and two months from 800,000 lost per month to net gains every month afterward or YEARS.

Next year we will be able to tell what real impact Trump's tax cuts have had and how the market has digested them and what impact they have on families...convenient for the GOP, it will be after mid-terms and that is no accident either.

yuiyoshida

(41,831 posts)
12. wELL OF course he did, he is a flim flam man...
Wed Jan 31, 2018, 05:39 PM
Jan 2018

He is so corrupt, his PHOTO shows up in the webster dictionary as Mr. Corrupt.

BumRushDaShow

(128,844 posts)
13. WaPo had their fact-checking going too and relating to the OP theme, you have this-
Wed Jan 31, 2018, 06:24 PM
Jan 2018
“The stock market has smashed one record after another, gaining $8 trillion in value. That is great news for Americans’ 401(k), retirement, pension and college savings accounts.”

Trump frequently brags about the rising stock market — he’s done it about once every three days as president — even though during the 2016 campaign he had said it was “a big fat bubble” that was about to pop. Trump is correct that $8 trillion in wealth has been created since the election — or $6.9 trillion since he took the oath of office, according to the Wilshire 5000 Index of stocks. But much of that gain in wealth did not trickle down to most Americans. Only about 50 percent of Americans own stocks directly or through retirement funds, according to a Gallup survey. And most of the value in stocks is held by the top 10 percent.

Moreover, the U.S. rise in 2017 was not unique. When looking at the Standard & Poor’s 500-stock index, it’s clear U.S. stocks haven’t rallied quite as robustly as their foreign equivalents. So it’s hard for Trump to make the case that his stewardship is making that much of a difference if stocks are doing better in other developed countries.

In fact, Trump even falls short in comparison to Barack Obama’s first year. The S&P 500 gained about 33.3 percent from inauguration through Jan. 29 under Obama, compared with 25.5 percent under Trump.



Bragging about the rise of the stock market could backfire on the president if there is a sudden downturn. Stocks fell more than 1 percent Tuesday, as rising bond yields are becoming competitive with stocks that pay big dividends and traders are looking for less risky places to put their money. According to Trump’s metric, almost $360 billion worth of wealth in the stock market disappeared Tuesday.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/fact-checker/wp/2018/01/30/fact-checking-the-2018-state-of-the-union-address/?utm_term=.754d9634f119&wpisrc=al_trending_now__alert-politics--alert-national&wpmk=1
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