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Sun Jan 21, 2018, 09:48 AM

 

I think minority party should have ability to bring an issue to vote

I think the reason why extremists have such a hold is because common sense, middle of the road bills are not even brought up for vote.

I think if there is an impasse like this where Majority is blocking a bill that will pass - the other part should be able to force a vote.

None of this fucking drama would be happening if we could bring the Graham Durbin proposal up for vote.

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Reply I think minority party should have ability to bring an issue to vote (Original post)
Le Gaucher Jan 2018 OP
sharedvalues Jan 2018 #1
Le Gaucher Jan 2018 #2
Kilgore Jan 2018 #3
BumRushDaShow Jan 2018 #4
Le Gaucher Jan 2018 #5
BumRushDaShow Jan 2018 #6
onecaliberal Jan 2018 #7

Response to Le Gaucher (Original post)

Sun Jan 21, 2018, 09:55 AM

1. Agreed. Minority should have subpoena power too

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Response to sharedvalues (Reply #1)

Sun Jan 21, 2018, 09:59 AM

2. Yes. This will keep 'democracy' in check

 

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Response to Le Gaucher (Original post)

Sun Jan 21, 2018, 10:02 AM

3. Not going to happen

Elections have consequences

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Response to Le Gaucher (Original post)

Sun Jan 21, 2018, 10:08 AM

4. "the other part should be able to force a vote."

There IS a way - but it depends on the type of legislation. It is "Privileged Business (PDF file)". This was used to bring Al Green's impeachment resolution to the House floor. The "vote" at that point became a motion to "table", which is what "won", and the resolution was summarily tabled and put on ice.

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Reply #4)

Sun Jan 21, 2018, 10:11 AM

5. For every proposal the minority party should be able bring a counter proposal

 

The bill with most vote will become law.

This is a sure shot way to start governing from the middle.

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Response to Le Gaucher (Reply #5)

Sun Jan 21, 2018, 10:22 AM

6. When Congress operates under "regular order"

THAT is what normally happens in the committees - "proposals" and "counter-proposals". And then the committees debated and voted on what would ultimately go to the floor.

I.e., both majority and minority members presented THEIR versions and determined whether and/or how to modify and mark them up for final committee vote, and then it moves out to the floor. In some cases, that legislation out of the committee can be further amended/modified by "The Committee of the Whole" (any member), before it actually reaches the floor for further amendment/debate/vote.

This is how the legislature works. The problem has been getting these votes scheduled and that goes back to the Rules committee and of course the heads of either chamber.

You gotta watch CSPAN when they show legislative hearings and markups.

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Response to Le Gaucher (Original post)

Sun Jan 21, 2018, 11:19 AM

7. republicans have to stick to rules made by a child mollester who was the speaker years ago.

Nothing is brought to the floor that cannot be passed by a majority of repukes.

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