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Sat Jan 20, 2018, 03:10 PM

Republicans are singing in sync. We aren't.

Their messaging machine goes into action and all Republicans use the same talking points. They are very good at repeat, repeat, repeat.

Democrats are making sense and doing their best, but they're not putting out a synchronized message.

Basically, the impact of their propaganda is far superior to the reasonable statements being made by Democrats. We've really got to get better at this stuff. That sucks, but that's reality.

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Reply Republicans are singing in sync. We aren't. (Original post)
Cyrano Jan 2018 OP
dem4decades Jan 2018 #1
randr Jan 2018 #2
awesomerwb1 Jan 2018 #3
oberliner Jan 2018 #4
Doodley Jan 2018 #8
oberliner Jan 2018 #22
Stuart G Jan 2018 #25
Kingofalldems Jan 2018 #20
oberliner Jan 2018 #21
rainin Jan 2018 #5
Kirk Lover Jan 2018 #6
ConnorMarc Jan 2018 #27
Squinch Jan 2018 #28
Kirk Lover Jan 2018 #30
Doodley Jan 2018 #7
Cyrano Jan 2018 #11
KewlKat Jan 2018 #9
elleng Jan 2018 #10
GreenEyedLefty Jan 2018 #12
Cyrano Jan 2018 #13
GreenEyedLefty Jan 2018 #14
Cyrano Jan 2018 #18
underthematrix Jan 2018 #15
democratisphere Jan 2018 #16
Iliyah Jan 2018 #17
kentuck Jan 2018 #19
JI7 Jan 2018 #23
bluestarone Jan 2018 #24
thbobby Jan 2018 #26
DavidDvorkin Jan 2018 #29
Initech Jan 2018 #31
meow2u3 Jan 2018 #32

Response to Cyrano (Original post)

Sat Jan 20, 2018, 03:11 PM

1. I agree, this was one thing Bill Clinton was good at.

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Response to Cyrano (Original post)

Sat Jan 20, 2018, 03:14 PM

2. There should only be one message and with one voice

America will suffer due to Trumps refusal to sign on the bill he asked for.
Also Republicans suck at everything and will never be able to get anything done that the lsos doesn't ask for.

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Response to Cyrano (Original post)

Sat Jan 20, 2018, 03:15 PM

3. Yep, Dems need to work on that

I wonder if the Dems circulate talking points like the reps do.

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Response to Cyrano (Original post)

Sat Jan 20, 2018, 03:16 PM

4. What should the message be?

 

1. The shutdown is all Trump's fault.

or

2. We will fight for DACA even if it means a shutdown.

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Response to oberliner (Reply #4)

Sat Jan 20, 2018, 03:19 PM

8. I agree but language needs to be simple. Most people don't even know what DACA means.

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Response to Doodley (Reply #8)

Sat Jan 20, 2018, 07:31 PM

22. Good point

 

How would you handle the messaging on DACA and the shutdown?

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Response to Doodley (Reply #8)

Sat Jan 20, 2018, 07:52 PM

25. The language is very simple, easy to understand, "Trump Shutdown" that's it.

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Response to Kingofalldems (Reply #20)

Sat Jan 20, 2018, 07:30 PM

21. So it's #1

 

Personally, I think #2 would be even more effective - but #1 works also.

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Response to Cyrano (Original post)

Sat Jan 20, 2018, 03:16 PM

5. They also respond and react instead of leading. n/t

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Response to Cyrano (Original post)

Sat Jan 20, 2018, 03:17 PM

6. They are now coalescing around we offered the wall for FUCKS SAKE...

 

which I can't believe.

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Response to Kirk Lover (Reply #6)

Sun Jan 21, 2018, 12:11 AM

27. Actually, that fact is better for Democrats

 

That they practically bent over backwards with no Vaseline ready to take it, and 45 STILL WOULDN'T sign the dam bill.

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Response to Kirk Lover (Reply #6)

Sun Jan 21, 2018, 10:20 AM

28. Duer no hypocrisy gave an explanation for that that I think is correct:

https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=10125953

WE should also be coalescing around that and saying, "SEE? There is NOTHING the Democrats could have offered that they would have agreed to. They were not negotiating in good faith. They were hell bent on screwing all you dumb republicans who fell for their lies, and now they are going to. Elections have consequences. Now you suffer."

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Response to Squinch (Reply #28)

Sun Jan 21, 2018, 05:46 PM

30. I'm not saying that's a bad thing I was just pointing out that that is the talking point

 

everybody was rallying behind - and as it should be. This FOOL is the BIGGEST problem and he ain't no dealmaker he
is Dealbreaker Dotard Donny.

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Response to Cyrano (Original post)

Sat Jan 20, 2018, 03:18 PM

7. One overwhelming message should be that this is a shutdown because Trump is a racist and wants to

deport people who have lived as children and most their lives in America. Trump and racist are the key words that need to be repeated.

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Response to Doodley (Reply #7)

Sat Jan 20, 2018, 03:30 PM

11. Should, could, would. The reality is that

the Democratic Party does not have in place a well-oiled, synchronized messaging machine.

The Party, as a whole, must get such a machine in place. And they'd better do it far before election time.

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Response to Cyrano (Original post)

Sat Jan 20, 2018, 03:20 PM

9. Lakoff talked about this yesterday on The Beat with Ari

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Response to KewlKat (Reply #9)

Sat Jan 20, 2018, 03:28 PM

10. Thanks

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Response to Cyrano (Original post)

Sat Jan 20, 2018, 03:31 PM

12. Can you please quantify that?

I need to see proof of the superiority of Republican propaganda.

Wherever I go, I see people thoroughly exasperated by the "leadership" in Washington. What is needed is MORE voices of reason, not more propaganda.

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Response to GreenEyedLefty (Reply #12)

Sat Jan 20, 2018, 03:37 PM

13. Republicans actually distribute their

written talking points to each member of congress, and all of their pundits.

This is true on an ongoing basis, regardless of the issue. Just flip around the TV dial during news hours or half hours. The Republican are all singing the same tune. Dems aren't.

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Response to Cyrano (Reply #13)

Sat Jan 20, 2018, 03:43 PM

14. I don't watch television news.

I glean my news from various sources on the net and like to watch Twitter. That's where the real news is happening. Democrats are winning the internet, bigly.

Besides, you can't argue with results:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/politics/wp/2018/01/17/this-is-what-the-democratic-special-election-wave-looks-like/?utm_term=.bffb76a8c9ed

All the talking heads in the world aren't going to get people to the polls, that is why getting out the vote is going to be so important. Best yet, it works. Just ask Virginia and Alabama.

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Response to GreenEyedLefty (Reply #14)

Sat Jan 20, 2018, 03:53 PM

18. Good to know

I've been avoiding twitter, but I guess it's time to sign up. Thank you, GreenEyedLefty.

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Response to Cyrano (Original post)

Sat Jan 20, 2018, 03:44 PM

15. We've got a single message that's the #1 trending hashtag on TWITTER, worldwide

#TrumpShutdown

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Response to Cyrano (Original post)

Sat Jan 20, 2018, 03:45 PM

16. Dems should be putting out repeated messages but not singing

from the same exact scripts. The GOP are experts at fake messaging, alternative facts and everything else propoganda. Hammer the hell out of them with our inclusive positions and support.

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Response to Cyrano (Original post)

Sat Jan 20, 2018, 03:51 PM

17. Well, one thing about the Democratic Party are

difference voices. We are not single minded trolls.

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Response to Cyrano (Original post)

Sat Jan 20, 2018, 03:59 PM

19. Republicans have always been better at "messaging" because...

...they usually have the corporate media behind them.

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Response to Cyrano (Original post)

Sat Jan 20, 2018, 07:33 PM

23. Their propaganda only works among their idiot base

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Response to Cyrano (Original post)

Sat Jan 20, 2018, 07:37 PM

24. should be AMERICA FIRST AND

RUSSIA LAST

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Response to Cyrano (Original post)

Sat Jan 20, 2018, 08:01 PM

26. Propaganda is the tool of fascists

Joseph Goebbels quote: "If you repeat a lie often enough, people will believe it"

GOP is very good at this.

Democrats are not Nazis.

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Response to Cyrano (Original post)

Sun Jan 21, 2018, 11:40 AM

29. We never do and never have

And probably never will.

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Response to Cyrano (Original post)

Sun Jan 21, 2018, 06:12 PM

31. Republicans own the media and the clergy. We don't.

They have half the country's local TV stations. They have a monopoly on AM radio. They have a monopoly on the clergy. What have we got that can spread that kind of message?

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Response to Cyrano (Original post)

Sun Jan 21, 2018, 08:54 PM

32. Republicans are authoritarian followers. We aren't

Enuf said.

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