NAMES!?!? Who were the six Democrats who voted WITH THE RACIST PARTY to pass

[Atticus]

the transparently stupid budget extension?

[Bleacher Creature]

1. Without looking, I'm sure Lipinski is on that list.

He's vile and has to go.

[Demsrule86]

4. Why would he have to go? we have the votes...Jesus. Why force any elected to walk the plank.

Sometimes...I wonder about how people think you win elections.

[Bleacher Creature]

5. He's in a D+6 district.

And Clinton won his district 55-40.

https://dailykos.com/stories/2017/6/29/1676281/-We-need-to-give-the-heave-ho-to-Blue-Dog-Rep-Dan-Lipinski-one-of-the-worst-Democrats-in-Congress

I'd check him out before saying much more as he's not someone anyone here should support. And I'll compare my pragmatism on this kind of thing to anyone.

[Demsrule86]

15. If he has a D after his name, we support him period this year.

[Bleacher Creature]

16. In the general, yes.

But in the primary, it would be nice to have an actual Democrat, other than a guy who just uses the label to get elected. He's not in a purple or red district.

[NCTraveler]

19. Have you confirmed how wrong you are yet? nt.

[Bleacher Creature]

20. Yes.

But I stand by the description.

[doc03]

2. Joe Manchin I presume nt

[TexasTowelie]

7. No, Manchin is a senator

and the vote was in the House.

[NCTraveler]

17. Solid presumption.

[Codeine]

29. *snort*

[Demsrule86]

3. Dems who are in risky Trump sates like Manchin, Heidi ...can't think of her last name...who cares?

We need those folks to win their election in 18. We have way more Senate seats to defend than the GOP and many of them are in states where Trump won...we have the votes we need. Why would you force those in Trump states to walk the plank for no reason?

[TexasTowelie]

8. It was a vote in the House.

The Senate hasn't voted, but if the GOP needs 60 votes to pass the resolution then the Senate then we have some votes to spare if a senator needs to vote for the temporary resolution.

[Demsrule86]

14. Exactly right...it is called politics...let's be smart about this.

[Atticus]

10. Yeah, you're right. "Democrat" doesn't mean diddly squat, does it? nt

[Demsrule86]

13. What does Republican mean...because if Manchin loses the seat that is who will replace him...and in

a big tent 'Democrat' can mean different things. He is in a red state. The Dems have the votes...there is no need for Manchin and others to walk the plank and lose their seats which would be very bad for us. You know if enough Democrats in red states lose...the GOP could gain a super majority and that would be beyond horrible...priorities my friend...you have to be smart about these things.

[Atticus]

25. Apparently, your definition of "smart" matches my definition of "politically expedient".

Sometimes the price of "go along to get along" is too high. If one knows what is "right", one should do it. Op

[LanternWaste]

26. You should ask the minority whip.

You should ask the minority whip.

An absolute denial of tactics seems rather dull-witted at best.

Thankfully, I'm quite certain you perceive all sides, and have a strategy laid out for all to see that insures the safety of all Democratic incumbents up for re-election in toss-up districts, and will provide that for us.

Else yours is little more than an absolute denial of tactics.

[Atticus]

27. I'll ignore your insult and your snark and simply state that, unlike the Republicans, I don't think

Democrats should blindly support people with regard to their positions simply because they have a D after their name. You are certainly entitled to think otherwise but, hopefully, we can both credit the other with good faith and acknowledge our shared values.

[Hortensis]

18. This Democrat finds that very offensive, Atticus.

I don't believe for a moment that you don't know some conservative districts elect conservatives to congress under the Democratic Party label. And yet you trash all of us.

Also, since you can string a coherent sentence, I'm guessing you are also capable of realizing that representatives can have situations in their districts and important reasons that even brief scrutiny would reveal. Calling these Democrats all racists without knowing anything about them is waaay out of line.

[Atticus]

22. Never dreamed I'd need to label a rhetorical question. Of course I'm not "trashing all

Democrats. I'd just like us to stand for something and be willing to do the "politically naive" right thing a little more often. Pragmatism is too often an excuse for political cowardice.

Lastly, why accuse me of calling Democrats racist when I did no such thing?

[Hortensis]

24. There you go again. Insulting all Democrats as unprincipled.

No one used the word pragmatism, and this suggests you're still as totally clueless about the motivations behind these 6 votes now as you were when you first posted.

You also clearly know nothing about most or all of the other 186 Democratic representatives you are badmouthing. Painting all with the same broad-brush insults.

[Atticus]

28. You know what? I think you're determined to be insulted. Your failure to answer my question

is telling. Have a great day.

[gauze2000]

6. The 6 Democrat traitors

Salud Carbajal - California's 24th Congressional District
Henry Cuellar - Texas' 28th Congressional District
James 'Jim' Manuel Costa - California's 16th Congressional District
Vicente Gonzalez - Texas' 15th Congressional District
Josh Gottheimer - New Jersey's 5th Congressional District
Colin Clark Peterson - Minnesota 7th Congressional District

They should be replaced by other Democrats in this November mid-term.

[TexasTowelie]

9. Cuellar and Gonzalez are both in heavily Hispanic districts

bordering Mexico. Cuellar is from Laredo and Gonzalez is from McAllen. Both districts have significant proportions of low income voters so they have to be strategic on their votes related to immigration issues to stymie GOP attack ads.

ETA: Neither of those representatives should be replaced.

[marble falls]

23. I think you are right about Cuellar and Gonzalez. And I suspect this is also true about most of ....

the other four. Most lower middle class earners in military heavy local economies are very sensitive about issues that affect their paychecks. And I can't blame them. Some of us cannot afford to back our convictions with our wallets and mortgages. There are very damn few Democratic Congressmen that I would fault in this situation. Its up to the rest of us to give them breathing room.

[gopiscrap]

11. welcome to DU

[haele]

12. All of them have districts that depend on continuance of federal services.

I can see why they may have voted yes, whether I agree with the vote or not.

Haele

[Hortensis]

21. Here is a list of Blue Dog (conservative) Democrats.

Sanford Bishop (GA-2)
Jim Cooper (TN-5)
Jim Costa (CA-16), Co-Chair for Administration
Henry Cuellar (TX-28), Co-Chair for Communications
Dan Lipinski (IL-3), Co-Chair for Policy [2]
Collin Peterson (MN-7)
Kurt Schrader (OR-5)
David Scott (GA-13)
Kyrsten Sinema (AZ-9)[3]
Mike Thompson (CA-5)
Filemon Vela, Jr. (TX-34)
Josh Gottheimer (NJ-5)
Stephanie Murphy (FL-7)
Lou Correa (CA-46)
Charlie Crist (FL-13)
Vicente González (TX-15)
Tom O'Halleran (AZ-1)
Brad Schneider (IL-10)

Salud Carbajol is the only one of the six who does not belong to this caucus.

ALSO NOTE that 13 conservative Democrats did not vote for the house extension.

Thanks for the good, responsible points, Tex and Haele.

[pnwmom]

30. The House had 230 Aye's and only needed 215 to pass. Their votes made ZERO difference.

The Democrats who voted aye are people in vulnerable positions who were allowed by leadership to votein a way that would be helpful in their districts, since the bill would have passed with or without their votes.

Politics 101.