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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsOh, look: The U.S. Olympic uniforms totally could have been made in USA. And for less!
Scarf $58 Made in China vs. Three Bird Nests Scarf $28.50 Made in San Francisco
Belt $85 Made in China vs. OConnells Ribbon Belt $39.95 Made in New York
Shirts $179 Made in China vs. Organic by John Patrick Raw Hem Poplin Shirt $169 Made in USA
Skirt $498 Made in China vs. A.L.C. Thea Waffle-Weave Skirt $495 Made in Los Angeles
Blazer $598 Made in China vs. Thakoon Suiting Blazer $495 Made in USA
Total: Chinese-made = $1,418 vs. American-made = $1,227.45
Men:
Tie $125 Made in China vs. The Hill-side Tie $85 Made in New York City
Belt $85 Made in China vs. OConnells Ribbon Belt $39.95 Made in New York
Shirt $425 Made in China vs. Todd Shelton Baxter White Shirt $124 Made in USA
Blazer $795 Made in China vs. Anderson Little Classic Blue Blazer $179 Made in USA
Trousers $295 Made in China vs. Ovadia & Sons Flat Front Trousers $275 Made in USA
Total: Chinese-made = $1,725 vs. American-made = $702.95, a savings of over $1,000!
http://hauteamericana.com/2012/07/could-american-olympians-be-decked-out-in-american-made-uniforms-for-less-2/
Wounded Bear
(58,604 posts)DoBotherMe
(2,339 posts)Sanity Claws
(21,841 posts)Just joking. They're not needed. How about a Stetson or a baseball cap?
jberryhill
(62,444 posts)It really toasted my bread to see the Fox morning news bunny making fun of the berets.
4th law of robotics
(6,801 posts)provide no protection from the sun or the rain.
I'm not sure why they ever caught on.
Boonie-hats are far more practical.
uponit7771
(90,304 posts)...3 - 5.
Lizzie Poppet
(10,164 posts)It's always been about increasing margin.
Xyzse
(8,217 posts)I have to wonder how much that mark up is. 4-500%?
laundry_queen
(8,646 posts)That's exactly right, and that's exactly what they do.
robinlynne
(15,481 posts)Brickbat
(19,339 posts)right to profit.
xtraxritical
(3,576 posts)USA USA USA USA
xchrom
(108,903 posts)Renew Deal
(81,847 posts)The chinese made stuff costs less than the amounts listed. I'm not saying it's not more expensive, but this isn't a fair comparison. A large part of the cost is the Polo guy.
I still think that the items could have been made and should have been made in NY and the rest of the US.
mamayo
(25 posts)regardless of where they were made?
ProdigalJunkMail
(12,017 posts)but, do these prices take into account the 'name' associated with these items? I wonder how much of the 'price' is the premium charged for the privilege of having the Ralph Loren name stamped in it?
sP
HopeHoops
(47,675 posts)1monster
(11,012 posts)Those prices are absurd.
justabob
(3,069 posts)1200-1700 dollars for an effing uniform? Really, that alone is over the top, and like someone else said, why do they have to use name brand designers? Do they really need a polo pony on their chest? It isn't a fashion show, it is a sporting event. Jeez, buy whatever off the rack generic brand... or find an up and coming American designer, if it is *that* important.
robinlynne
(15,481 posts)of having the polo on the athletes, aren't they? Probably Ralph Lauren is not only giving them the clothing but paying extra as well, as a "sponsor."
glowing
(12,233 posts)No style to it. No curve through the right places to accentuate in a flatterin way. Looks like a guys shirt... Actually the man's shirt is more form flatering than that junk they r using for the woman.
4th law of robotics
(6,801 posts)acquired from within the US, killed and cleaned with good old American flint.
That will strike fear in to the hearts of our enemies . . . er fellow competitors.
XemaSab
(60,212 posts)And the American athletes (ESPECIALLY the white ones) can all come out like this:
(This idea is so ridiculous that it's awesome. Who's on board?)
LynneSin
(95,337 posts)if we went out to buy it. I mean they have the Ralph Lauren logo slapped on them so there's a premium to that.
I suspect the outfits probably cost less than $100 to make total!
Spazito
(50,165 posts)it is an imperative the Olympic teams must be outfitted by a top name designer, it is not the clothes the athletes wear that define the games, it is, or certainly should be, the skills and abilities of the athletes themselves.
If the outfits, for some unknown reason, are to be designed, why not use a new designer from one's own country, showcase those talents instead of some big name designer whose name means a much higher price is to be paid than would be otherwise.
To repeat, I just don't get it.
SidDithers
(44,228 posts)I can see the actual performance apparel being made by the big sport companies. There's a lot of science that goes into materials and fit and how athletic performance can be improved by wearing the right clothing. Companies like Adidas and Reebok and Nike have spent money on sport science research to develop equipment that can give even an tiny little edge to an athlete.
But parade costumes can be made by anybody. And they should most definitely be made domestically.
Sid
Spazito
(50,165 posts)providing it IS based on an possible improvement in performance ie the continuing evolution of the swimwear worn. If there is no difference then the performance apparel should not be purchased simply due to 'name brand'.
robinlynne
(15,481 posts)SidDithers
(44,228 posts)Sid
mahatmakanejeeves
(57,313 posts)OK, its sarcasm, but not this part: $275 for those trousers? Also, why is there such a huge difference in the cost of a men's blazer vs. a women's blazer?
Disclaimer: I buy a lot of my clothes at yard sales, but not all of them. I'm no expert.
MADem
(135,425 posts)Polo shit. And it IS shit--pure shit...ugly, ugly, fugly-ugly!
Phentex
(16,330 posts)I think the Project Runway idea is actually a great idea!
MADem
(135,425 posts)Opening ceremonies, track suits, swimwear, running gear, etc. Between all the sports they could get 12 episodes, easy! Then they could have the panel judge and cough up the top three, and have "America" vote for a 50% share of the winning look! If they really wanted to break it down, they could award this prize to one person, and that prize to the other, so that the entire ensemble was crafted by three talented amateurs.
Make it work, people!!!! That guy cracks me up!
Starry Messenger
(32,342 posts)SidDithers
(44,228 posts)It reminds me of something, but I can't put my finger on it. They seem, I dunno, Ayn Randian?
Does that image look sorta familiar to anyone else?
Sid
Berlum
(7,044 posts)fer sure...
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itsrigged
(116 posts)Locrian
(4,522 posts)But I can't place it either. I think it reminds me of some parody or comedy? Maybe like Animal House?
Occulus
(20,599 posts)Some movie? Or TV show?
xtraxritical
(3,576 posts)MADem
(135,425 posts)Clean, strong, upright youth, staring resolutely off into the distance, flag flying...
The former Soviet Union did some rather iconic images along these lines, too.
SidDithers
(44,228 posts)I had the wrong end of the spectrum. It's probably more like Soviet era poster art.
Cheers,
Sid
progressoid
(49,951 posts)Last edited Tue Jul 24, 2012, 02:48 PM - Edit history (1)
Or...
Duty Now For The Future
Berlum
(7,044 posts)Odin2005
(53,521 posts)bayareaboy
(793 posts)It seemed like a few years ago, perhaps when Mittens took over for the Salt Lake City Winter games. I know that the the central committee was slightly screwed before that, but it is just one scandal after another, and I do consider this thing about clothing a scandal. I mean if Mr Polopony wants his logo on them, what about having other folks know what you did and going from there instead of having our folks look like a NASCAR racer.
I am still trying to get over the drum thing in China last time.
abelenkpe
(9,933 posts)But we don't. Mostly because other countries provide tax incentives of up to forty percent to lure jobs away from the US and to their countries. Their taxpayers pay Hollywood studios to layoff Americans (And I'm sure it similar for many other industries) while our politicians cant figure out why tax revenues drop here and so many turn to unemployment and food stamps. Gee, do you think it's because we do nothing to stop offshoring?
As far as clothing goes I've watched as clothes from common places like the gap and Jcrew have gone down in quality (poor fabrics, poor craftsmanship, poor fit) while their prices have gone up up up. But hey, their shareholders and executives are making out.
Kablooie
(18,612 posts)dballance
(5,756 posts)I thought we needed some austerity.
I've never owned a $795 blazer or a tie that cost more than $50. Hell the most expensive complete suit I could ever afford was just north of $500 and it was a Hugo Boss on clearance. $425 for a white men's shirt? Even Nordstroms and Macy's are more reasonable than that.
A freaking white blouse for $179? A skirt for $498??
Who the hell is setting the budget for these things? We could have gone to the Men's Warehouse for all the guy's clothing and spent a quarter of what they spent. Not that going to Men's Warehouse would assure Made in the USA but since none of this stuff was anyway the point is moot.
Why the hell did we need designer clothing for something these people will only wear once to represent the US?
MADem
(135,425 posts)I can't imagine spending that kind of money for clothing. Seems a complete waste to me.
xtraxritical
(3,576 posts)MADem
(135,425 posts)begin_within
(21,551 posts)Someone is pulling a fast one on the U.S. team.
Moonwalk
(2,322 posts)Lifelong Protester
(8,421 posts)make that skirt for waaaaay less. Still trying to wrap my head around a $495 skirt. (Yes, I sew, so I know what I'm talking about).
General premise of the OP, I could not agree more. This entire situation is embarassing to the US. We can do better.
Who are the buffoons who got us into this mess? Not too sensitive, eh?
itsrigged
(116 posts)Fawke Em
(11,366 posts)A shirt is a shirt, a blazer is a blazer.
If anything, the woman's shirt and blazer uses less material, on average, than its male counterparts.
So why are women constantly being shat on?
xtraxritical
(3,576 posts)Historic NY
(37,449 posts)outfit them even cheaper with name brand logos too.
All the Chinese & Japanese come here to buy the crap made over there.
http://www.premiumoutlets.com/outlets/outlet.asp?id=7
http://www.premiumoutlets.com/outlets/travel_tourism.asp?id=7
this place is more popular than some of the tourist attractions in NY State
valerief
(53,235 posts)Made in China allows for all kinds of syphoning of funds.