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Sat Jan 13, 2018, 08:53 PM

A compromise that could save Dreamers and allow Don his wall without busting the budget:

Congress provides the Dreamers with a path to citizenship and further authorizes the President to spend on his proposed border wall every single penny that Mexico donates to the US for that purpose

It's win-win: it helps the Dreamers; it gives the President's brilliant funding proposal a hat-tip; and it respects Republican budget objectives

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Reply A compromise that could save Dreamers and allow Don his wall without busting the budget: (Original post)
struggle4progress Jan 2018 OP
Iliyah Jan 2018 #1
still_one Jan 2018 #3
struggle4progress Jan 2018 #4
still_one Jan 2018 #6
jmowreader Jan 2018 #7
Ken Burch Jan 2018 #11
Ms. Toad Jan 2018 #2
m3n0z Jan 2018 #8
shanny Jan 2018 #12
Ms. Toad Jan 2018 #13
The_Casual_Observer Jan 2018 #5
Stinky The Clown Jan 2018 #9
mythology Jan 2018 #10

Response to struggle4progress (Original post)

Sat Jan 13, 2018, 09:01 PM

1. NO

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Response to Iliyah (Reply #1)

Sat Jan 13, 2018, 09:09 PM

3. I may be wrong, but I think what the OP is saying the money for the wall would come from Mexico.

That isn't going to happen

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Response to still_one (Reply #3)

Sat Jan 13, 2018, 09:10 PM

4. shhh

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Response to struggle4progress (Reply #4)

Sat Jan 13, 2018, 09:11 PM

6. oops, sorry

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Response to still_one (Reply #3)

Sat Jan 13, 2018, 09:43 PM

7. Uhh...

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I like the idea he has: Only money the Mexicans provide to Donald can be used to build the "fucken wall." But since Mexico has already stated in no uncertain terms that it will not pay for the fucken wall, then no money can be spent on it.

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Response to jmowreader (Reply #7)

Sat Jan 13, 2018, 09:57 PM

11. "The current president of the Electoral College of the United States".

 

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Response to struggle4progress (Original post)

Sat Jan 13, 2018, 09:05 PM

2. That's actually a creative idea -

My only concern would be that they might decide they want a wall between them and us

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Response to Ms. Toad (Reply #2)

Sat Jan 13, 2018, 09:45 PM

8. You do understand

 

that this would authorize trump to unilaterally negotiate with mexico without them. Simply put, mexico could end up with a sweat deal that motivates them to finance and build the wall on their side of the fence. The optics would be a republican success if it closes the border and a Trump failure it does not.

If democrats fail to capitalize politically on any possible outcome it will be seen as ineffective weakness. Sorry, it's not enough to block and tackle an issue. They have to own, carry and deliver it before Trump does. Right now people are looking for a personality to represent the democratic field. What they need is a powerful presenter of what, why and who they stand for.







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Response to m3n0z (Reply #8)

Sat Jan 13, 2018, 10:56 PM

12. NO WAY will Mexico build the wall

in part because NO WAY will trump give them a "sweet deal." He's a zero-sum guy: everybody else has to lose for him to win. And he just has to win.

But I agree that Democrats need to look--and act--strong, which they (always) fail to do.

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Response to m3n0z (Reply #8)

Sun Jan 14, 2018, 01:55 AM

13. You're reading a lot into a concept.

The concept does not inherently authorize any such thing - and the details of any proposed legislation could certainly be structured to prevent it.

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Response to struggle4progress (Original post)

Sat Jan 13, 2018, 09:11 PM

5. What is it going to cost to demolish those stupid

Contest walls in San Deigo when this whole mess gets flushed down the toilet?

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Response to struggle4progress (Original post)

Sat Jan 13, 2018, 09:52 PM

9. I posted this a few days ago. Sadly, many here thought it a serious proposal.

We seem to have taken leave of our senses of humor.

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Response to struggle4progress (Original post)

Sat Jan 13, 2018, 09:55 PM

10. I'd rather we put up a wall around Trump tower and lock him inside

 

He'd be safe from all those scary minorities, and we'd be safe from him.

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