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Sat Jan 13, 2018, 05:18 PM

Heartbreaking stories coming from Hawaii as people thought they only had minutes to live:











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Reply Heartbreaking stories coming from Hawaii as people thought they only had minutes to live: (Original post)
Mrs. Overall Jan 2018 OP
mreilly Jan 2018 #1
cilla4progress Jan 2018 #9
BigmanPigman Jan 2018 #10
Henry Krinkle Jan 2018 #31
WhiskeyGrinder Jan 2018 #2
SharonClark Jan 2018 #3
mahina Jan 2018 #4
Mrs. Overall Jan 2018 #5
mahina Jan 2018 #11
Duppers Jan 2018 #7
mahina Jan 2018 #12
Duppers Jan 2018 #17
Duppers Jan 2018 #6
smirkymonkey Jan 2018 #8
NBachers Jan 2018 #13
Irish_Dem Jan 2018 #14
Cha Jan 2018 #18
Irish_Dem Jan 2018 #21
Cha Jan 2018 #27
Irish_Dem Jan 2018 #29
Mr.Bill Jan 2018 #35
Fred Sanders Jan 2018 #15
Irish_Dem Jan 2018 #23
Ghost Dog Jan 2018 #30
Irish_Dem Jan 2018 #33
Ghost Dog Jan 2018 #36
Irish_Dem Jan 2018 #37
Cha Jan 2018 #16
hauckeye Jan 2018 #19
PoindexterOglethorpe Jan 2018 #20
lpbk2713 Jan 2018 #22
PoindexterOglethorpe Jan 2018 #24
lpbk2713 Jan 2018 #38
PoindexterOglethorpe Jan 2018 #39
mahina Jan 2018 #26
PoindexterOglethorpe Jan 2018 #40
flibbitygiblets Jan 2018 #28
Glimmer of Hope Jan 2018 #41
jpak Jan 2018 #25
BHDem53 Jan 2018 #32
Jarqui Jan 2018 #34

Response to Mrs. Overall (Original post)

Sat Jan 13, 2018, 05:28 PM

1. I was just going to post on this...

 

... it is heartbreaking. Trump couldn't be bothered to put down the golf club and tweet that it was all a false alert and there was nothing to worry about because A) He's an ignorant, stupid POS, B) Fuck that blue state and C) He has all the leadership capabilities of a flea's asshole.

On the darker side, while I haven't heard of any crimes/suicides happening in Hawaii during those few moments, what if someone decided to "settle the score" with an enemy? Or rob a liquor store of expensive champagne? Or even decide to kill themselves rather than face annihilation? Sounds far-fetched, but I remember Stephen King writing about an aunt he had who heard the "War of the Worlds" broadcast in 1939, thought it was real, and intended to slit her wrists as soon as she saw the "Martian ships."

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Response to mreilly (Reply #1)

Sat Jan 13, 2018, 06:33 PM

9. Not farfetched

It could also cause panic leading to car
accidents, trampling, heart attacks. Thatís why I believe it was a hack. I donít buy that emergency managers are so dim witted as to not have control systems built in.

I imagine they are still in shock there, with stories to trickle out.

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Response to mreilly (Reply #1)

Sat Jan 13, 2018, 06:38 PM

10. That never occurred to me.

You make an excellent point. That could have easily happened. What do officials say then? "Oopsie, my bad" to their families at their funerals?

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Response to mreilly (Reply #1)

Sat Jan 13, 2018, 08:17 PM

31. I wonder how many people maxed out their credit cards...

 

on survival supplies and rations, or maxed it simply because there was no reason not too?

Or, imagine confessing to your spouse about marital indiscretions, just to clear your conscience
before you were incinerated?

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Response to Mrs. Overall (Original post)

Sat Jan 13, 2018, 05:30 PM

2. Interested in how many disaster plans get updated in the coming weeks.

This moment could be life-changing for quite a few people.

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Response to Mrs. Overall (Original post)

Sat Jan 13, 2018, 05:39 PM

3. Made me teary thinking about it.

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Response to Mrs. Overall (Original post)

Sat Jan 13, 2018, 06:06 PM

4. We're fine thanks, how are you?

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Response to mahina (Reply #4)

Sat Jan 13, 2018, 06:19 PM

5. Not sure how to interpret this post. Just feeling awful for all of us

who have to live under this presidency and administration.

Can't imagine what this morning was like for some people in Hawaii. Finally got in touch with a cousin on Oahu and he is pissed beyond measure.

You seem angry that I posted this. Didn't mean anything insulting--just aware of how many people were needlessly frightened.

Bungling press conferences are one thing, but stupidity when it comes to our national defense and nuclear missiles is incomprehensible and terrifying.

Glad you are well.

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Response to Mrs. Overall (Reply #5)

Sat Jan 13, 2018, 06:39 PM

11. Not angry. Kind of exhausted. It's a gorgeous day. Thanks for thinking of us.

I know Gene.

The visitors were freaking out. My family was freaking out. I'd forgotten to turn my ringer off when I left "The Post" last night and didn't see the alert but got the word ten other ways.

There are no shelters here, really, unless you live in a concrete building. The idea of surviving is worse than being vaporized.

For whatever impression I gave of anger, not my intention.

Peace.

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Response to mahina (Reply #4)

Sat Jan 13, 2018, 06:28 PM

7. Why the sarcasm?

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Response to Duppers (Reply #7)

Sat Jan 13, 2018, 06:40 PM

12. See above.

I don't do sarcasm. It never struck me as funny.

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Response to mahina (Reply #12)

Sat Jan 13, 2018, 07:19 PM

17. Thank you!

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Response to Mrs. Overall (Original post)

Sat Jan 13, 2018, 06:27 PM

6. Thank you for posting these.

It's personal stories that hit home the most!

🙏

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Response to Mrs. Overall (Original post)

Sat Jan 13, 2018, 06:30 PM

8. This just makes me so sad and angry!

Those poor people who had to live through those moments of terror and it's all on Donald Trump, who couldn't even fucking be bothered to respond to this situation! He has created an atmosphere of fear and anxiety that won't go away until HE DOES!

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Response to Mrs. Overall (Original post)

Sat Jan 13, 2018, 06:40 PM

13. This needs severe, severe repercussions all the way to the top.

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Response to Mrs. Overall (Original post)

Sat Jan 13, 2018, 06:51 PM

14. A real life horror movie and Trump just plays golf.

The stories are heart breaking.

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Response to Irish_Dem (Reply #14)

Sat Jan 13, 2018, 07:20 PM

18. Not only golf.. he tweeted this POShite..

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Response to Cha (Reply #18)

Sat Jan 13, 2018, 07:49 PM

21. For the love of God. It is always about him.

Total incapable of empathy for anyone.

Edited to add: Thank you Cha, I had not seen this tweet.

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Response to Irish_Dem (Reply #21)

Sat Jan 13, 2018, 08:04 PM

27. You're Welcome.. you'll like this tweet..

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Response to Cha (Reply #27)

Sat Jan 13, 2018, 08:11 PM

29. Yep, Walter's tweet hits the nail on the head. LOL snivel tweets for feed his pet grudge.

Trump knows nothing about leadership at all.

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Response to Irish_Dem (Reply #14)

Sat Jan 13, 2018, 08:27 PM

35. I seriously doubt they told him.

He would have wanted to bomb North Korea if they did.

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Response to Mrs. Overall (Original post)

Sat Jan 13, 2018, 07:13 PM

15. NK does not have a nuclear tipped intercontinental ballistic missile. Or even such a missile.

Where is the beef?

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Response to Fred Sanders (Reply #15)

Sat Jan 13, 2018, 07:54 PM

23. I believe Kim Jong-Un has made claims that he does?

That he has nukes that can reach US Territories and Hawaii?

But when you get that kind of alert, reason goes out the window.
And the fact that people believe it can be true, tells you the
that people know the situation with NK and Trump could be
quite serious.

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Response to Irish_Dem (Reply #23)

Sat Jan 13, 2018, 08:15 PM

30. Were such a missile truly on the way...

it could only mean that Trump &/or 'his' Generals had attacked NK first.

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Response to Ghost Dog (Reply #30)

Sat Jan 13, 2018, 08:23 PM

33. Trump has been talking about giving NK a "bloody nose."

And Jung Un would no doubt retaliate.

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Response to Irish_Dem (Reply #33)

Sat Jan 13, 2018, 08:29 PM

36. Could Trump be that irrational?

That is the question.

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Response to Ghost Dog (Reply #36)

Sat Jan 13, 2018, 08:36 PM

37. I think he could be, but he sounds like he is surrounded by minders who know

he is mentally ill, ignorant and impulsive.

Also military leaders, in an extraordinary set of announcements, have said they will not
launch nukes on Trump's command.

All of this might make us safer, but then again when no one is in command of a situation,
all kinds of screw ups can occur. Perhaps Pence is calling the shots right now.
Or Kelly.

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Response to Mrs. Overall (Original post)

Sat Jan 13, 2018, 07:18 PM

16. Wow.. I had no idea. I slept through the

whole damn thing.

Mahalo, Mrs Overall

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Response to Mrs. Overall (Original post)

Sat Jan 13, 2018, 07:21 PM

19. My daughter is there for 2 weeks

My daughter is on the big island for a college field biology course. She called me this morning in tears as her fellow students were getting the alerts on their phones. They were all in a panic and very scared.

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Response to Mrs. Overall (Original post)

Sat Jan 13, 2018, 07:31 PM

20. Am I the only one who is thinking that maybe

alerts like this on smart phones aren't really such a good idea?

And how long was it before the "Ignore previous message" arrived?

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Response to PoindexterOglethorpe (Reply #20)

Sat Jan 13, 2018, 07:53 PM

22. Putin and No Korea probably have that "ignore" thing all worked out.




Maybe one or two others.

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Response to lpbk2713 (Reply #22)

Sat Jan 13, 2018, 07:56 PM

24. Are you suggesting that if the warnings sent to the smart phones had been real,

then a phony "ignore" would have been sent by one of them? Why do I find that unlikely?

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Response to PoindexterOglethorpe (Reply #24)

Sat Jan 13, 2018, 09:01 PM

38. Did you think it was unlikely our voting process could be tampered with?




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Response to lpbk2713 (Reply #38)

Sat Jan 13, 2018, 09:43 PM

39. They are two somewhat different things.

Although I recognize that I'm not all that knowledgeable about how to tamper with electronic devices of any kind.

What happened today in Hawaii is simply a kind of fuck-up that happens a lot in various ways. I have often heard stories that this country has come very close to nuclear war more than once because of erroneous information being received by the military. Human error is always a problem everywhere.

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Response to PoindexterOglethorpe (Reply #20)

Sat Jan 13, 2018, 08:04 PM

26. 38 minutes

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Response to mahina (Reply #26)

Sat Jan 13, 2018, 09:43 PM

40. Thank you.

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Response to PoindexterOglethorpe (Reply #20)

Sat Jan 13, 2018, 08:07 PM

28. Exactly what I was thinking. If the threat were real, what could people do anyway?

Why not let their last 20 minutes alive be happy ones? Sending an alert that "you're going to die in 20 minutes", whether true or false, seems cruel.

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Response to PoindexterOglethorpe (Reply #20)

Sat Jan 13, 2018, 10:01 PM

41. There is room for improvement. Last month when the Thomas Fire was active, my city received a false

alert at 2:00am that said something like "Civil Emergency - Evacuate Now". Not as disturbing as today's alert but good grief. It took 30 minutes for a clarification alert.

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Response to Mrs. Overall (Original post)

Sat Jan 13, 2018, 08:18 PM

32. The unstable anus golfed while Hawaii panicked. Pathetic.

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Response to Mrs. Overall (Original post)

Sat Jan 13, 2018, 08:26 PM

34. This is the part that gets me a lot about Trump

Whether it is the scare of nuclear war in Hawaii

or kids that were given promises in DACA living in terror from day to day with their status taken away and unable to work ...

or parents of kids that need CHIPs healthcare with no funding to keep it going

or folks reliant on Obamacare

or folks worried about what the GOP are going to do to social security or Medcaid/Medicare to pay for the trillion dollars in Trump tax cuts

There is a human cost to this type of government - it distresses many of it's people.

And the numbskulls orchestrating it could care less.

It's a disgrace.

The only solace is what goes around comes around. The American people will eventually have their day with these heartless criminals

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