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Sat Jan 13, 2018, 03:36 PM

Good God. Weve gone full Strangelove.

The fact that we can easily imagine a madman launching an attack that could result in another madman annihilating is either going to wake somebody up or we’re just going to learn to live with terror.

Poor people. Can y’all imagine huddling in fear?

We need help.

Where IS that madman anyway? Has anyone gone out to the course and told him?

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Reply Good God. Weve gone full Strangelove. (Original post)
nolabear Jan 2018 OP
RKP5637 Jan 2018 #1
Ms. Toad Jan 2018 #15
RKP5637 Jan 2018 #22
C_U_L8R Jan 2018 #2
nolabear Jan 2018 #4
Irish_Dem Jan 2018 #3
nolabear Jan 2018 #5
Irish_Dem Jan 2018 #8
withoutapaddle Jan 2018 #6
Irish_Dem Jan 2018 #7
withoutapaddle Jan 2018 #9
Irish_Dem Jan 2018 #10
murielm99 Jan 2018 #16
withoutapaddle Jan 2018 #18
Irish_Dem Jan 2018 #31
murielm99 Jan 2018 #46
Irish_Dem Jan 2018 #52
pangaia Jan 2018 #29
Ferrets are Cool Jan 2018 #11
UTUSN Jan 2018 #12
orangecrush Jan 2018 #13
riversedge Jan 2018 #27
dhol82 Jan 2018 #30
orangecrush Jan 2018 #33
dhol82 Jan 2018 #34
orangecrush Jan 2018 #40
dhol82 Jan 2018 #41
PoliticAverse Jan 2018 #39
orangecrush Jan 2018 #42
Different Drummer Jan 2018 #14
orangecrush Jan 2018 #20
dhol82 Jan 2018 #32
bluestarone Jan 2018 #17
orangecrush Jan 2018 #19
longship Jan 2018 #24
orangecrush Jan 2018 #38
bluestarone Jan 2018 #43
nolabear Jan 2018 #26
orangecrush Jan 2018 #35
Orange Free State Jan 2018 #28
orangecrush Jan 2018 #36
longship Jan 2018 #44
Orange Free State Jan 2018 #47
longship Jan 2018 #48
nolabear Jan 2018 #51
griloco Jan 2018 #21
orangecrush Jan 2018 #37
longship Jan 2018 #50
randr Jan 2018 #23
Hamlette Jan 2018 #25
Initech Jan 2018 #45
PasadenaTrudy Jan 2018 #49

Response to nolabear (Original post)

Sat Jan 13, 2018, 03:40 PM

1. It sure seems we were close to a nuclear annihilation. I surely don't know all of the safeties

involved, but that sure seems like it was close. I wonder if we'll get the "real" story on why an alert went out like that.

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Response to RKP5637 (Reply #1)

Sat Jan 13, 2018, 05:16 PM

15. Someone pushed the wrong button.

Just like someone back in 1971, at the time for the regularly scheduled test, loaded the wrong tape into the transmitter, and a real alert - rather than the test one - went out.

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Response to Ms. Toad (Reply #15)

Sat Jan 13, 2018, 06:03 PM

22. Thanks!!! n/t

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Response to nolabear (Original post)

Sat Jan 13, 2018, 03:41 PM

2. You never go full Strangelove

Love to all our Hawaii friends.

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Response to C_U_L8R (Reply #2)

Sat Jan 13, 2018, 03:42 PM

4. Love indeed. And the promise of voting to lower the threat.

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Response to nolabear (Original post)

Sat Jan 13, 2018, 03:41 PM

3. I think America is on edge, waiting for something bad to happen.

Trump and the GOP have done this to us.

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Response to Irish_Dem (Reply #3)

Sat Jan 13, 2018, 03:44 PM

5. Thats exactly right. We in Seattle are unsettled.

The possibility is all too real. And I don’t tend toward hysteria typically.

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Response to nolabear (Reply #5)

Sat Jan 13, 2018, 03:56 PM

8. We have incompetent and corrupt leadership. Does not inspire trust. nt

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Response to Irish_Dem (Reply #3)

Sat Jan 13, 2018, 03:46 PM

6. this is worse than W's color coded scares

It's continuous and we're being terrorized by our own fking "president".

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Response to withoutapaddle (Reply #6)

Sat Jan 13, 2018, 03:55 PM

7. The color coding scare was on purpose. I think people worry that with Trump

everything is an accident waiting to happen.

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Response to Irish_Dem (Reply #7)

Sat Jan 13, 2018, 04:13 PM

9. True.

Trump is a product of mass racism, paranoia, hate, bigotry, (essentially every single divisive emotion and thought that exists).

He is the "brand" for hatemongers. What truly makes him more scary is he really is unhinged. I try not to label people as crazy, but this man is an unstable evil.

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Response to withoutapaddle (Reply #9)

Sat Jan 13, 2018, 04:46 PM

10. I got some reassurance from the Wolff book that Trump is in adult care.

His minders all know he is crazy and ignorant, so they lie to him to keep him calm.
They also park him in front of the TV which he enjoys, and let him tweet to blow off steam.
Somebody else is minding the store.

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Response to withoutapaddle (Reply #9)

Sat Jan 13, 2018, 05:20 PM

16. Your sig line!

It is from one of my favorite poems.

How dreary to be somebody!
How public, like a frog
To tell your name the livelong day
To an admiring bog!

Emily Dickinson.

I used to work at the public library here. Many of our strutting, preening small town library board members reminded me of that poem on a daily basis. Not everyone who goes into public service does so because they want to serve others.

The poem also fits trump to a "T."

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Response to murielm99 (Reply #16)

Sat Jan 13, 2018, 05:36 PM

18. Emily is my soulmate lol

Hope is the thing with feathers and experience are among my other favorites.

Our libraries are our lifelines to information. Thank you!

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Response to murielm99 (Reply #16)

Sat Jan 13, 2018, 06:39 PM

31. My sig line is from the Declaration of Independence written by Thomas Jefferson.

I think you must mean another post unless Jefferson wrote the King a poem too.

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Response to Irish_Dem (Reply #31)

Sat Jan 13, 2018, 09:17 PM

46. Oh, no.

I was replying to withoutapaddle.

I feel somewhat reassured by your post about the book. I truly hope someone else is minding the store, someone a bit less crazy.

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Response to murielm99 (Reply #46)

Sun Jan 14, 2018, 11:59 AM

52. Yes that is my sense of things right now, the danger level is lowered.

I have a great deal of education and experience assessing danger levels
in the mentally ill population. And I was reassured after reading excerpts
in the Wolff book. His staff is managing him to prevent things spinning too much out
of control. The military and congress also know the problems. Even Trump's own
attorneys lie to him to keep him calm.

For example, I suspect that Trump canceling his trip to London was due to manipulation
by his staff. He wanted to go I am sure, he loves pomp and pageantry like only the British
can do. But I think his staff knew it might be dangerous with the protests and would be an
obvious trip of humiliation. So they came up with ridiculous reasons why he could
not go and Trump bought the embassy one. There is no way Trump was smart enough
to have done research on the embassy being moved, etc. Someone had to present
that story to him.

It is possible that Kelly and Pence are running the show.

Of course all of this is speculation, and reading between the lines.

Edited to add: And at times he appears to be medicated, he slurs his speech, and
comes across with a flat affect and is docile, out of character for him.

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Response to Irish_Dem (Reply #3)

Sat Jan 13, 2018, 06:36 PM

29. The GOP have done this.

Herr Shithole is by now just a tool.

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Response to nolabear (Original post)

Sat Jan 13, 2018, 04:56 PM

11. I was thinking War Games. nt

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Response to nolabear (Original post)

Sat Jan 13, 2018, 05:04 PM

12. 1) SHITLER creates context of anxiety/nerves. 2) Anything on his watch is all *his*.

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Response to nolabear (Original post)

Sat Jan 13, 2018, 05:07 PM

13. Here's what happened.



Mystery solved!

"Hawaii residents woke up to a text message warning of an imminent missile attack on Saturday, though authorities quickly said there was no such threat. “Ballistic missile threat inbound to Hawaii. Seek shelter immediately. This is not a drill,” the warning read. The Hawaii Emergency Management Agency tweeted out a statement saying there is “no missile threat” to the area after news of the alerts had flooded Twitter. Hawaii Gov. David Ige later said the warning and subsequent panic were caused by an employee pressing the “wrong button” during a shift change."

https://www.thedailybeast.com/fake-missile-alert-sent-out-to-hawaii-residents


This is very, very bad.

Now in the event of an actual attack, warnings might be ignored.

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Response to orangecrush (Reply #13)

Sat Jan 13, 2018, 06:31 PM

27. Yes, crying wolf, is never good -no matter the context.

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Response to orangecrush (Reply #13)

Sat Jan 13, 2018, 06:39 PM

30. I still have a problem with a protocol that would allow an employee to

Just inadvertently push the wrong button.
What, he tripped and landed on THE button?
Some of the guys were fake fighting and fell on THE button?
This is ridiculous. How can such an important piece of the first call protection system be so easy to fuck up?

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Response to dhol82 (Reply #30)

Sat Jan 13, 2018, 06:47 PM

33. Those are questions

I am quite sure are going to be brought up.

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Response to orangecrush (Reply #33)

Sat Jan 13, 2018, 06:49 PM

34. One hopes!

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Response to dhol82 (Reply #34)

Sat Jan 13, 2018, 06:58 PM

40. I went through some CERTs training this summer


(Community Emergency Response Team) and met some Emergency Management folks.

They take their jobs extremely seriously, you can bet there will be hell to pay for this.

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Response to orangecrush (Reply #40)

Sat Jan 13, 2018, 07:00 PM

41. Good.

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Response to dhol82 (Reply #30)

Sat Jan 13, 2018, 06:57 PM

39. Years ago there was a false attack announcement on TV when someone put the wrong tape on...

during what was supposed to be a test alert.

You'd think a real announcement would require entering a password or at least pressing a second button.

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Response to PoliticAverse (Reply #39)

Sat Jan 13, 2018, 07:06 PM

42. One would think...




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Response to nolabear (Original post)

Sat Jan 13, 2018, 05:13 PM

14. Kong rides the bomb.

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Response to Different Drummer (Reply #14)

Sat Jan 13, 2018, 05:39 PM

20. ...



?w=307&h=356

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Response to orangecrush (Reply #20)

Sat Jan 13, 2018, 06:40 PM

32. Yeah, that seems to be where we are headed.

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Response to nolabear (Original post)

Sat Jan 13, 2018, 05:23 PM

17. very comparable to movie

FAIL SAFE Watch it it's a scary one for sure!!!!!! http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0058083/

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Response to bluestarone (Reply #17)

Sat Jan 13, 2018, 05:38 PM

19. OUTSTANDING movie!



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Response to bluestarone (Reply #17)

Sat Jan 13, 2018, 06:18 PM

24. That one for sure. I have another suggestion as well.

Fail-Safe had a great role for Larry Hagman, as the Translator, Walter Matthau, as the Pentagon advisor hawk, and Dan O'Herlihy, absolutely chilling as the always ethical General Black. The latter deserved a supporting actor award. A great film, regretfully overshadowed by Dr. Strangelove, my favorite film of all time.

Then, there's this one.

(I know. Horrible trailer.)
Way underrated flick. Gregory Peck turns in his usual good performance. Ava Gardner is stunning. And Fred Astaire is surprising in his first dramatic role. I hope that one likes Waltzing Matilda. However, it's never been done like this before:


Plus, John Meillon (of Crocodile Dundee fame) has a role, too. He's the sailor dropped off in his home town SanFran by his choice to die. (I know, not the most positive film narrative. It's Stanley Kramer, after all.)

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Response to longship (Reply #24)

Sat Jan 13, 2018, 06:55 PM

38. Both are great trailers!


Thanks for posting them!


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Response to longship (Reply #24)

Sat Jan 13, 2018, 07:26 PM

43. TY saw the first one. Good movie!

second one looks good also TKS

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Response to bluestarone (Reply #17)

Sat Jan 13, 2018, 06:28 PM

26. Yes, Strangelove parodied Failsafe. Want to bet it shows up on TMC?

I’ve said before I spent several early years on a SAC base during the Cuban Missile Crisis and those alerts scared us families. I had nightmares for a long time about telephones making horrifying siren sounds. I was an adult before I realized they represented the alert sirens and the subsequent phone call to let us know our fathers had just flown off in a drill, not a real attack.

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Response to nolabear (Reply #26)

Sat Jan 13, 2018, 06:50 PM

35. that's intense


glad it never came to the real thing.



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Response to bluestarone (Reply #17)

Sat Jan 13, 2018, 06:32 PM

28. Weirdly, Fail-Safe and Dr. Strangelove were from the same literary source. n/t

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Response to Orange Free State (Reply #28)

Sat Jan 13, 2018, 06:51 PM

36. interesting!

What was the source?

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Response to Orange Free State (Reply #28)

Sat Jan 13, 2018, 07:39 PM

44. Nope. Not true.

I read both books in my youth.

Fail-Safe was written by Eugene Burdick and Harvey Wheeler.

Red Alert by Peter George was the inspiration for Dr. Strangelove.

There is some inevitable confusion about this as Peter George and Stanley Kubrick successfully sued to get the Fail-Safe release delayed due to their similar narratives. But there is no doubt of their origins.

There you have it.

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Response to longship (Reply #44)

Sat Jan 13, 2018, 10:32 PM

47. Whoops, I remember the suit now

The author of Red Alert settled out of court, so there was enough similarity in the two books, but they were not the same book. My bad.

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Response to Orange Free State (Reply #47)

Sat Jan 13, 2018, 10:40 PM

48. It was complicated.

And the author of Red Alert and Kubrick won the suit, settled out of court, but they managed to delay the release of Fail-Safe by months. It therefore failed at the box office, although it was every bit a very good film.

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Response to longship (Reply #44)

Sat Jan 13, 2018, 11:04 PM

51. Ill be darned. Thanks for educating me!

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Response to nolabear (Original post)

Sat Jan 13, 2018, 05:40 PM

21. Not to worry. It'll be a sunny day and we'll...

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Response to griloco (Reply #21)

Sat Jan 13, 2018, 06:52 PM

37. ...




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Response to griloco (Reply #21)

Sat Jan 13, 2018, 10:46 PM

50. That scene should be presented in context.

And with original film.


Stupid thing is cut off.

Here's the rest of it:


Sometimes YouTubers are just plain stupid.

Oh well!


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Response to nolabear (Original post)

Sat Jan 13, 2018, 06:15 PM

23. Wonder how the Trump voters in Hawaii

celebrated their big tough guy making America Great

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Response to nolabear (Original post)

Sat Jan 13, 2018, 06:23 PM

25. He is a coward. This is the last thing I worry about. He does not have the guts to do anything.

Have you noticed he doesn't ever fire his people himself? That was his signature move from TV but he has someone else do it or does it on paper.

He is the cowardly lion. Only not as cute.

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Response to nolabear (Original post)

Sat Jan 13, 2018, 07:41 PM

45. Do not ride the bomb!

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Response to nolabear (Original post)

Sat Jan 13, 2018, 10:43 PM

49. My sis in law

lives on the Big Island. She got the alert, figured it was a hoax, rolled over and went back to sleep

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