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SeaDoo77

(540 posts)
Fri Jan 12, 2018, 12:30 PM Jan 2018

I Came Home From Work And My Wife Was Crying In Bed With The News On

I asked her what was wrong. She said "how could he say that" to me. Well, we both know how, but it just hurt her terribly.

My wife was born in Bolivia, and then migrated to Venezuela as a teenager. I am sure both Bolivia and Venezuela would qualify as s-holes in the Trump mind.

She has told me of some of the horrible jobs she had to work, like when she was a waitress in a two story restaurant, and the owner kept all the tips. She got minimum wage packing plates up and down stairs, while the customer thought they were tipping her for her hard work, and great service. Sick.

She now is working on her second degree, third if you count the degree in economics she got in Venezuela. She has paid hundreds of thousands of dollars in taxes, from withholding to real estate taxes, and all the other taxes.

Donald Trump literally hurt my wife.

Today I hate his guts with a little more whiter hotter hate.

I know you are not supposed to hate, but you are not supposed to speed either.

God Damn You Donald Trump. May you burn in hell you ignorant racist snowflake.

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I Came Home From Work And My Wife Was Crying In Bed With The News On (Original Post) SeaDoo77 Jan 2018 OP
I get it MFM008 Jan 2018 #1
My grandparents were immigrants and Trump's comments upset me in a visceral way. Irish_Dem Jan 2018 #2
I Stood There At The Foot Of The Bed With My Arms Spread SeaDoo77 Jan 2018 #4
Yes my grandparents took nothing from the US government an went without Irish_Dem Jan 2018 #6
He is NOT a human. In fact he is an "IT". A thing. No, correction... BigmanPigman Jan 2018 #48
I'm sorry. She is what makes American great, not dump! onecaliberal Jan 2018 #3
Tell your wife not to cry. GallopingGhost Jan 2018 #5
Thanks - She's Fine SeaDoo77 Jan 2018 #7
There aren't enough GallopingGhost Jan 2018 #25
you tell her rtracey Jan 2018 #44
Thanks for the new name we can call the Prez. So appropriate. Doitnow Jan 2018 #46
A hug for your dear wife and one for you, too. sarge43 Jan 2018 #8
I was crying last night too LittleGirl Jan 2018 #9
I'm sorry LittleGirl ailsagirl Jan 2018 #37
this guy is either LittleGirl Jan 2018 #43
Blows me away, too ailsagirl Jan 2018 #45
The Trump regime is not worth getting upset about. lpbk2713 Jan 2018 #10
I send my thoughts and feelings to you and your wife. You are not alone nor will you ever be so. Augiedog Jan 2018 #11
45 is a turd. mstinamotorcity2 Jan 2018 #12
I had no where the sorrow and heart ache that your wife did gopiscrap Jan 2018 #13
He is an a first yuiyoshida Jan 2018 #14
Trump is a low-class piece of trash Dopers_Greed Jan 2018 #15
Today I hate him in her honor. nolabear Jan 2018 #16
May Trump and the entire GOP rot in Hell! Stonepounder Jan 2018 #17
Once again it's gonna be "throw the bums out!" time. n/t sprinkleeninow Jan 2018 #21
So sorry. RandomAccess Jan 2018 #18
I've lived in plenty of shitholes in my life, all of them in the good old USA alarimer Jan 2018 #19
I welcome your wife to our country. Luz Jan 2018 #20
Thanks SeaDoo77 Jan 2018 #22
My wife was broken up over this comment as well. PatrickforO Jan 2018 #23
Maestro!!! MountainMama Jan 2018 #26
Hey, I posted this as its own thread. If you liked it, please give it a 'DU rec'. PatrickforO Jan 2018 #27
Oh, GOOD! I will find it and recommend it! I'm glad you posted it. n/t CaliforniaPeggy Jan 2018 #29
Good, Ill look for it too. I would only add govt supported birth control/reproductive care BlancheSplanchnik Jan 2018 #55
Most excellent! nt babylonsister Jan 2018 #40
Golden Rule Oldtimeralso Jan 2018 #52
Eloquently stated. 3catwoman3 Jan 2018 #54
You don't have to be an immigrant to feel like crying over this. It's a sad, sad day for America. Vinca Jan 2018 #24
Send Trump To Norway And Revoke His Passport SeaDoo77 Jan 2018 #31
Oh hell, you think Norway wants his ass? Norwegians are way too smart to let that creep in. YOHABLO Jan 2018 #42
He is hateful and hated . A hug from our family to yours lunasun Jan 2018 #28
And some people still ask me DFW Jan 2018 #30
+++ heaven05 Jan 2018 #32
" 60 million toilet dwellers cheering on the turd-in-chief " jaysunb Jan 2018 #34
Can you please just tell her to consider the source? That should really settle everything. Kirk Lover Jan 2018 #33
Very moving. Hope she knows that millions do not think that way. He's a Nazi. nt Honeycombe8 Jan 2018 #35
Trash talks trash ailsagirl Jan 2018 #36
Always - Folks She's All Right - Just This Crap Hit Her Hard She Was Crying For America Not Herself SeaDoo77 Jan 2018 #38
Come on, Shoonra Jan 2018 #39
This latest incident has especially upset me... Upthevibe Jan 2018 #41
Hate is not enough. LiberalFighter Jan 2018 #47
Turn that into an op SeaDoo77 Jan 2018 #50
Tell her I'm sorry FirstLight Jan 2018 #49
I feel so bad for her. Just let her know that there are a lot of Lint Head Jan 2018 #51
We are all very glad your wife is here, and that you are as well. raven mad Jan 2018 #53

Irish_Dem

(52,986 posts)
2. My grandparents were immigrants and Trump's comments upset me in a visceral way.
Fri Jan 12, 2018, 12:45 PM
Jan 2018

My grandparents were good, decent people who came here for a better life.
Their children and grandchildren have given a lot back to America.

Tell your wife that we cannot let Trump define, demean and humiliate us.
He is a bully, and we are good people.

Best wishes on her educational pursuits, she sounds like a hard working,
intelligent woman. She should be proud of herself, and tell Trump to F-off.

 

SeaDoo77

(540 posts)
4. I Stood There At The Foot Of The Bed With My Arms Spread
Fri Jan 12, 2018, 12:52 PM
Jan 2018

Saying "and your welfare check was thiiiiiiis big!!!!!"

She got zero cents in "aid" from the US Government.

She ate pasta, and Casadillas and on Friday when she got her paycheck, she would go to Pagliacci and get a slice of pizza and a beer. That was her reward for working and going to school all week. And by the way she paid her tuition out of her pocket.

Her check was this big, as I spread my arms and hands as wide as possible...... This big......

Irish_Dem

(52,986 posts)
6. Yes my grandparents took nothing from the US government an went without
Fri Jan 12, 2018, 12:58 PM
Jan 2018

so their children could eat and go to college.

F___ Trump.

Your wife is doing the right thing.
Trump is a terrible human being.

BigmanPigman

(52,128 posts)
48. He is NOT a human. In fact he is an "IT". A thing. No, correction...
Sat Jan 13, 2018, 12:14 AM
Jan 2018

IT is a NOTHING to be more accurate.

GallopingGhost

(2,404 posts)
5. Tell your wife not to cry.
Fri Jan 12, 2018, 12:55 PM
Jan 2018

Millions are fighting this fascist asshole. We will win.

I understand, though. It's the same kind of white-hot hate I felt (and feel) when he mocked the disabled reporter. I have a disabled child.

 

SeaDoo77

(540 posts)
7. Thanks - She's Fine
Fri Jan 12, 2018, 01:02 PM
Jan 2018

She only came here to learn English. She never even planned on staying. She had a good job in Venezuela, and thought she could do better with better English, and continue her education. I really don't even know why she stayed.

And another thing. I / we have a lot of friends from Venezuela, and Bolivia. Lots. We love their dreamer children like our own. Seriously. They are, every single one, great kids. They are going to school, or working their own businesses. Amazing kids. Truly amazing.

Prez S-hole directly attacked "my" kids when he stripped them of their status. What a (blank).

Resist......

sarge43

(28,973 posts)
8. A hug for your dear wife and one for you, too.
Fri Jan 12, 2018, 01:45 PM
Jan 2018

Please tell her that most of us feel that pain, too.

I'm beyond hate now; I just feel ashamed.



LittleGirl

(8,299 posts)
9. I was crying last night too
Fri Jan 12, 2018, 01:45 PM
Jan 2018

my husband is an immigrant and my grandparents came from Italy.

I posted on Facebook how he does not speak for ALL Americans and I usually don't post anything on facebook but he crossed the line.

I also just shamed a school mate that wrote some racists shit on another facebook post and told him to read a history book. especially a history book about Italy where his parents and grandparents came from. asshole.

ailsagirl

(23,054 posts)
37. I'm sorry LittleGirl
Fri Jan 12, 2018, 07:11 PM
Jan 2018

You know how screwed-up he is-- he's a piece of garbage who's so cheap and outlandish it's jaw-dropping

SCUM OF THE EARTH

LittleGirl

(8,299 posts)
43. this guy is either
Fri Jan 12, 2018, 09:38 PM
Jan 2018

first or second generation immigrant and it just blows me away that these people that I grew up with associate with 45 or think that Obama messed up our country.

these people (and my brother and sister are a couple of others) that think they are better than the rest of the world. it's downright vomit inducing.
I'm pushing 60 soon so I've met some wonderful people of all races and still have relatives in Italy.
thank you.

lpbk2713

(42,933 posts)
10. The Trump regime is not worth getting upset about.
Fri Jan 12, 2018, 01:51 PM
Jan 2018



They have been proven to be liars, cheats, thieves and incompetents.


Augiedog

(2,571 posts)
11. I send my thoughts and feelings to you and your wife. You are not alone nor will you ever be so.
Fri Jan 12, 2018, 02:04 PM
Jan 2018

Try not to let the least of humanity define the best.

gopiscrap

(23,876 posts)
13. I had no where the sorrow and heart ache that your wife did
Fri Jan 12, 2018, 02:14 PM
Jan 2018

but I was born in Germany and my father passed away as a baby, the man my mother married after that was a US Service man who gave his life for the US in Vietnam and died when I was 7. My mom and I fully emigrated to the US when I was 13 and even then there was prejudice and hurtful things lobbed toward us.
Yesterday I felt the same way, I was near tears, knowing that at one time I was from a "shithole" nation in the words of the President of the US

Dopers_Greed

(2,646 posts)
15. Trump is a low-class piece of trash
Fri Jan 12, 2018, 02:16 PM
Jan 2018

I'd rather have people from any "shit-hole" in the world here over him

nolabear

(42,267 posts)
16. Today I hate him in her honor.
Fri Jan 12, 2018, 02:21 PM
Jan 2018

Please tell her I am so, so sorry and I respect her and her people with every breath I take.

We-the majority-are better than this deplorable monster.

Stonepounder

(4,033 posts)
17. May Trump and the entire GOP rot in Hell!
Fri Jan 12, 2018, 02:27 PM
Jan 2018

The only good thing to come from the Orange Shitgibbon is showing us how fragile our Democracy is and how we need to fight and fight hard to preserve it. Every single person in the US (with the exception of Native Americans) is either an immigrant or is descended from immigrants.

My mother could trace her ancestry back to before the Revolution, but her side of the family were still immigrants when then came over from England, seeking to escape to a better life. My father's parents immigrated from Germany to escape the Nazi's.

And as for those so-called Christians, I remember, as a child of perhaps 5 or 6, going to Sunday School. One of the songs we sang was:

Jesus loves the little children
All the children of the world
Black and yellow, red and white
They're all precious in His sight
Jesus loves the little children of the world


Sorry if I seem to be rambling, I just detest trump to the point I have to leave the room or change the channel when a video clip of him talking comes on. This country was built on inclusion not exclusion, and yes there has been bigotry since the first Pilgrim, but we have worked for 400 years to stamp it out, so, for all of our sakes, get out and vote and take back Congress in Nov. And show the GOP the we are firm believers in the Golden Rule and we shall block everything that Trump wants to do as they blocked Obama, and we will make damn sure that if Trump actually makes it 2020 the most important thing on our agenda is to make sure he is a one-term asshole/pResident.

alarimer

(16,357 posts)
19. I've lived in plenty of shitholes in my life, all of them in the good old USA
Fri Jan 12, 2018, 02:31 PM
Jan 2018

And they are shitholes because they were full of right-wing assholes, who never wanted to pay enough taxes to make things work they way they should, so roads were bad, libraries and schools underfunded.

So, yeah, "shithole" is definitely in the eye of the beholder, but Trump meant it in a racist way.

 

SeaDoo77

(540 posts)
22. Thanks
Fri Jan 12, 2018, 03:39 PM
Jan 2018

She has assimilated reeeeel good.

The greatest thing about America is when you say you are an American, you are. You can't move to France and call yourself a Frenchman. It doesn't work that way.

Racist right wing nazi assholes don't understand this.

They live their lives in fear of "the other" huddling in their own s-holes. The ones between their ears.

The words on the statue of liberty do mean something. Just not to them....

PatrickforO

(14,731 posts)
23. My wife was broken up over this comment as well.
Fri Jan 12, 2018, 04:09 PM
Jan 2018

She just kept saying, "This goes against everything this country should stand for."

As to hating Trump, that's pretty easy, but what I really hate is this chest pounding white nationalism, because it takes us backwards. According to the US Census world population clock, there are over 7.4 billion people living on this planet.

Those 'shithole' countries to which Trump was referring are poor because of capitalism and greed. The thing that is backwards about Trump, Bannon, DeVos, and the rest of his crappy, ignorant, anti-intellectual, white-supremacist administration is this:

- We all live on, and share, this one world.
- In order for this world to continue to support our species, we need to begin planning forward as a species, not a bunch of nations.
- Now, more than ever, the policies we set must necessarily organize us around human need, not human greed.
- Human need necessarily includes the state of this world's environment, because we all must live on this world.

I'm a progressive, and believe our tax dollars need to be spent making our lives better, not making it so some billionaire parasites or shareholders in big corporations can get richer at the expense of the rest of us. I want our taxes to be spent on childcare, early childhood education, elementary, secondary and postsecondary education, creating an infrastructure that serves us all and that we can all be proud of. I want healthcare and a strong old age pension so I can be financially comfortable after I have to stop working. I want my children and grandchildren to be able to take time off to care for their children, and for other family members, and not suffer financially. I want my children and grandchildren to be able to live in decent housing with clean water, broadband communications, heat their homes with clean energy and not have to risk disease caused by corporate pollution.

I want corporate charters adjusted so the fiduciary responsibility of the C-class corporate officers is not ONLY to shareholders, but to customers, the general public and the environment.

We need to rethink the need for wars, and for all the money that goes toward 'defense,' and as we retool our society, we need to retrain those who lose 'defense' related jobs and at the same time develop new and peaceful technologies and endeavors where they can be employed instead.

Yes, I am politically active in my local Democratic party. Yes, I caucus, vote in primaries, carefully review ballot referendums, and vote in every election. Yes, I write, call and speak personally to those elected to represent me locally, statewide and federally. I sign petitions, and do my utmost to drive local policies in directions that support human need.

I do not apologize for being a progressive, or Democratic Socialist or whatever you want to call me, and it is not my responsibility to try and change some anti-intellectual quasi-literate person's mind. It is time for those of us who are capable of imagining what we and this world can be if we work unselfishly together for the common needs of people to stand up and be active and peaceful change agents.

I do not apologize for being an idealist, and do not consider it my responsibility to bring you around to my way of thinking. Indeed, with the current human-caused deterioration of the global climate, I believe events themselves will cause pressure in this direction.

I do not apologize for believing that reorganizing around human need is possible. Again, I do not take on myself the responsibility of convincing anyone else of this imperative. Events will do that for me.

Above all, personally, I believe in living by the golden rule. In as far as possible in our consumer society, I try to do unto others as I would have them do unto me. I believe in hard work, out of the box thinking, and entrepreneurship, and I believe that people are motivated by MORE than profits and that most people would like to live comfortably, and do something for a living that has meaning. Like Obama said, I believe that no one who works full time should have to live in poverty, without healthcare or other benefits that make life worth living.

Can we do it?

The earth will be fine whether we organize ourselves to preserve its ability to support human life OR whether we fuck it up so bad we go extinct and it becomes a smoking cinder circling the sun. Our destiny is up to us.

I suppose that makes me a

BlancheSplanchnik

(20,219 posts)
55. Good, Ill look for it too. I would only add govt supported birth control/reproductive care
Sat Jan 13, 2018, 02:37 PM
Jan 2018

Free b.c. for women and men, education regarding sex, reproduction and overpopulation, and incentivized encouragement to limit family size to maximum two. Higher rewards for having no children. Rewards that will be appreciated by upper, middle and lower economic populations.

Oldtimeralso

(1,941 posts)
52. Golden Rule
Sat Jan 13, 2018, 04:20 AM
Jan 2018

I am glad, Patrick, that you live by the golden rule.
Trump live by the new golden rule. ," He
Who has the gold makes the rules.,"

3catwoman3

(24,558 posts)
54. Eloquently stated.
Sat Jan 13, 2018, 01:08 PM
Jan 2018

When my sons were little boys (they are now 25 and 27), we used to talk about the Golden Rule and how, if everyone would obey that ONE rule, we really woudn't need many others. It covers pretty much anything I can think of.

Vinca

(50,527 posts)
24. You don't have to be an immigrant to feel like crying over this. It's a sad, sad day for America.
Fri Jan 12, 2018, 04:13 PM
Jan 2018

Will Norway let us in just to get away from Trump? A for your wife.

DFW

(55,324 posts)
30. And some people still ask me
Fri Jan 12, 2018, 05:41 PM
Jan 2018

Wouldn't your wife want to move to America with you some day?

These days, she just answers, "you're kidding, right?"

 

heaven05

(18,124 posts)
32. +++
Fri Jan 12, 2018, 05:58 PM
Jan 2018

Certain People in this country been crying and dying for 350 years because they were seen as shit because of their color and status in racist white culture. A culture that has been given a new transfusion of hate by the people who caused your wife tears. If you are not white or at least white looking you are now joined to a large club...and I as an AA have NEVER taken aid from this stinking government. Although I am trying to get compensation for being poisoned while serving in our military. Expect a lot more hurt. 350 years worth here...and continuing. Oh and by the way I spent 5 years at a prestigious university also, after military service and I'm still a n***** with now 60 million toilet dwellers cheering on the turd-in-chief that caused pain in your wife and anger in you....

jaysunb

(11,856 posts)
34. " 60 million toilet dwellers cheering on the turd-in-chief "
Fri Jan 12, 2018, 06:49 PM
Jan 2018

I simply don't understand how so many here and elsewhere don't seem to recognize this fact.

 

Kirk Lover

(3,608 posts)
33. Can you please just tell her to consider the source? That should really settle everything.
Fri Jan 12, 2018, 05:59 PM
Jan 2018

These fuckbags will not hijack what America stands for....this is not what America stands for.

 

SeaDoo77

(540 posts)
38. Always - Folks She's All Right - Just This Crap Hit Her Hard She Was Crying For America Not Herself
Fri Jan 12, 2018, 08:08 PM
Jan 2018

She is the American Dream.

Shoonra

(535 posts)
39. Come on,
Fri Jan 12, 2018, 08:19 PM
Jan 2018

Come on, SeaDoo77, tell us how you REALLY FEEL about Pres. Trump!

My own father was an immigrant a very long time ago. Fled Tsarist Russia, arrived in NYC not knowing a word of English. Worked all his life. Went to school - all the way to a Master's Degree in English. Made a career of teaching other immigrants, usually from the Caribbean and Central America. Trump doesn't realize how America benefits by taking in people from wretched places who dream of a better life for themselves and their posterity.

Upthevibe

(8,411 posts)
41. This latest incident has especially upset me...
Fri Jan 12, 2018, 09:14 PM
Jan 2018

Your wife is one of MILLIONS who came to this country as immigrants....WE ARE A NATION OF IMMIGRANTS!!! I'm so angry I'm not quite sure how to channel it. I'm sorry to your wife. This is a horrible, horrible time in our country...

FirstLight

(13,557 posts)
49. Tell her I'm sorry
Sat Jan 13, 2018, 01:08 AM
Jan 2018

I'm disgusted too.

and for those of us living under the poverty level here in the US...sometimes THIS is a shithole country too.

I want to travel someday, and yet I feel like I have to apologize for being an American.

Disgraceful. I'm sick of it.

Can we be like a teen who wants to divorce their parents?
gah!

Lint Head

(15,064 posts)
51. I feel so bad for her. Just let her know that there are a lot of
Sat Jan 13, 2018, 02:06 AM
Jan 2018

people, including me, who want this Orange Creep gone and that millions more did not vote for him. And his opinion doesn't mean squat.

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