Fri Jan 12, 2018, 12:26 AM
IluvPitties (3,181 posts)
Is anyone sharing my hopelessness tonight?
I am in my 30s, so I had never lived under such an oppressive, racist and dangerous presidency. Not even W or Reagan, in my view. I feel we are witnessing something deeply horrible and transformative, as Trump has openly declared people of color the undesirable other. He is going after all of us hard, starting with the most vulnerable- undocumented and temporarily legal migrants of color. These are millions of colored folks this bastard is about to kick out. He is also going after LEGAL colored immigrants (my dad is a permanent resident from the Dominican Republic). Who says millions of legal immigrants will not wind up fucked up by the system because of some racist, shitty scheme? Where does it end? It doesn't. As long as they have power, the white nationalist garbage that rules us will not stop until they start putting Americans of color in "our place".
This shit is bad and it's getting to me. I had to vent.
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IluvPitties | Jan 2018 | OP |
L. Coyote | Jan 2018 | #1 | |
Cracklin Charlie | Jan 2018 | #23 | |
DonaldsRump | Jan 2018 | #2 | |
Hortensis | Jan 2018 | #47 | |
angstlessk | Jan 2018 | #3 | |
lunasun | Jan 2018 | #14 | |
global1 | Jan 2018 | #4 | |
IluvPitties | Jan 2018 | #5 | |
Bernardo de La Paz | Jan 2018 | #25 | |
AmericanActivist | Jan 2018 | #32 | |
elfin | Jan 2018 | #6 | |
Phoenix61 | Jan 2018 | #7 | |
Kirk Lover | Jan 2018 | #8 | |
Snarkoleptic | Jan 2018 | #9 | |
Demtexan | Jan 2018 | #10 | |
Generic Brad | Jan 2018 | #11 | |
njhoneybadger | Jan 2018 | #12 | |
Corgigal | Jan 2018 | #13 | |
roamer65 | Jan 2018 | #15 | |
alittlelark | Jan 2018 | #16 | |
LuckyCharms | Jan 2018 | #17 | |
smirkymonkey | Jan 2018 | #18 | |
Skittles | Jan 2018 | #19 | |
GulfCoast66 | Jan 2018 | #20 | |
IluvPitties | Jan 2018 | #21 | |
Boomerproud | Jan 2018 | #22 | |
Bernardo de La Paz | Jan 2018 | #24 | |
oasis | Jan 2018 | #26 | |
Leghorn21 | Jan 2018 | #27 | |
yuiyoshida | Jan 2018 | #28 | |
onecaliberal | Jan 2018 | #29 | |
GallopingGhost | Jan 2018 | #33 | |
SunSeeker | Jan 2018 | #30 | |
pnwmom | Jan 2018 | #31 | |
Jspur | Jan 2018 | #34 | |
HipChick | Jan 2018 | #45 | |
Skittles | Jan 2018 | #48 | |
Jane Austin | Jan 2018 | #35 | |
eyeofnewt | Jan 2018 | #41 | |
MFM008 | Jan 2018 | #36 | |
HipChick | Jan 2018 | #37 | |
Demit | Jan 2018 | #38 | |
HipChick | Jan 2018 | #40 | |
Demit | Jan 2018 | #43 | |
HipChick | Jan 2018 | #44 | |
Demit | Jan 2018 | #46 | |
joshcryer | Jan 2018 | #39 | |
Demsrule86 | Jan 2018 | #42 |
Response to IluvPitties (Original post)
Fri Jan 12, 2018, 12:30 AM
L. Coyote (51,127 posts)
1. Lest we forget, Nixon was tossed out for less than #TrumpRussia, all without a shithole moment.
Patience is a virtue. Our form of justice isn't of the overnight junta type.
Albeit, the idea of Trump in his pajamas on a couch red-eye flight to Moscow is rather appealing tonight. ![]() |
Response to L. Coyote (Reply #1)
Fri Jan 12, 2018, 01:57 AM
Cracklin Charlie (12,716 posts)
23. Let his red-eyed panic be your beacon.
I am so sick of this guy.
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Response to IluvPitties (Original post)
Fri Jan 12, 2018, 12:30 AM
DonaldsRump (7,684 posts)
2. Nope
No reason to be sad.
Every reason on earth to be outraged and to RESIST!!!!!!! |
Response to DonaldsRump (Reply #2)
Fri Jan 12, 2018, 08:11 AM
Hortensis (55,639 posts)
47. +1000. We're still the nation who elected Obama.
It took a lot of seditious behaviors maximizing weaknesses of the system and electorate to elevate this depraved buffoon to the presidency. As it is, there's a lot more buyers' remorse out there than is admitted.
Frankly, I worry far more about congress and state governments. No buyers' remorse there at all. Only demands for return on investment. |
Response to IluvPitties (Original post)
Fri Jan 12, 2018, 12:31 AM
angstlessk (11,862 posts)
3. Oh, please..life can produce worse scenarios.
You are actually lucky...many people wish your life!
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Response to angstlessk (Reply #3)
Fri Jan 12, 2018, 12:59 AM
lunasun (21,646 posts)
14. People wish to be scared for their father ? Feel vulnerable ? Hopeless ? How Lucky
Response to IluvPitties (Original post)
Fri Jan 12, 2018, 12:31 AM
global1 (24,451 posts)
4. Your Hopelessness Is What I Call 'Demoralization'....
there seems to be a concerted effort on the part of Trump and the Repugs to 'demoralize' the American People every way they can and every chance they get.
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Response to global1 (Reply #4)
Fri Jan 12, 2018, 12:32 AM
IluvPitties (3,181 posts)
5. I guess that's it. It's like I am tired as hell.
Response to IluvPitties (Reply #5)
Fri Jan 12, 2018, 02:00 AM
Bernardo de La Paz (44,673 posts)
25. Understandable. Rest. Recharge. Feel free to take breaks from news and media.
Breaks of hours to days or even weeks if necessary. Rest. Recharge. |
Response to global1 (Reply #4)
Fri Jan 12, 2018, 03:33 AM
AmericanActivist (1,019 posts)
32. Wow! Thanks for this comment. I was reading
through the replies on this thread and your comment about demoralization is insightful, it’s keen, and helpful in considering all that we are dealing with. I want to reflect on it further but also wanted yo say thanks and I appreciate it.
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Response to IluvPitties (Original post)
Fri Jan 12, 2018, 12:33 AM
elfin (6,262 posts)
6. They had the smarts to use dog whistles
The tiny silver lining might be that his bald-faced racism is revealing to all that anyone who votes for ANYONE (psst Ryan) who goes along, even while trying to hedge, is as racist as he is -- and has always been.
Up to the voters. Once again, reveal, resist, and VOTE |
Response to IluvPitties (Original post)
Fri Jan 12, 2018, 12:34 AM
Phoenix61 (15,445 posts)
7. I am not hopeless
I refuse to let him or his minions win. They truly are deplorables. They don't care about anything beyond their own little bubble. I'm rolling up on 60. Raised in the south. I've seen this shit before. Apparently we didn't kill the dragon, just wounded it. Time to slay the bastard this time.
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Response to IluvPitties (Original post)
Fri Jan 12, 2018, 12:39 AM
Kirk Lover (3,608 posts)
8. Don't worry we're gonna be OK. Your generation will be taking over and I believe most of
you guys don't like this shit. Now we need this demographic to come out and VOTE (your age and younger)!!
Oh and don't forget the demographics are changing in this country...period. They can't do a thing about it. Why do you think they are in such a tizzy..they are even more frightened then us! We gonna be aiiiiiigght. |
Response to IluvPitties (Original post)
Fri Jan 12, 2018, 12:40 AM
Snarkoleptic (5,930 posts)
9. Don't feel powerless or hopeless!
“Be the change that you wish to see in the world.” ― Mahatma Gandhi
I became a precinct committee chairman and Mrs. Snark became active in local politics as well. Here's a video from Thom Hartmann that shows how to do so. Here's the Concord Project video Thom discusses. |
Response to IluvPitties (Original post)
Fri Jan 12, 2018, 12:42 AM
Demtexan (1,588 posts)
10. No.
I am just pissed off.
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Response to IluvPitties (Original post)
Fri Jan 12, 2018, 12:45 AM
Generic Brad (13,988 posts)
11. I am feeling quite the opposite
In the past week he's been unmasked as crazy, senile, and racist. Traitorous acts are being exposed. The veneer is peeling off Trump and the Republican party. Yes, it is painful to see but most of us here sensed that it was this bad long before the rest of the country did.
They are becoming more exposed by the hour, it seems. They are not being normalized. They are hastening their own departures. Take heart and know better days are coming. |
Response to IluvPitties (Original post)
Fri Jan 12, 2018, 12:46 AM
njhoneybadger (3,903 posts)
12. Cmon buck up little camper
It's going to get Better. We need to stay positive and win big in 10 months.
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Response to IluvPitties (Original post)
Fri Jan 12, 2018, 12:47 AM
Corgigal (9,291 posts)
13. Nope
This stupidity is bring us together. It's teaching the young voter that they may have to stay involved and vote. We don't run on autopilot. It's a guttural thing, it makes personally ill. We wouldn't allow our children to behave like this. These old white guys just believe their own bs, and that is their personal flaw.
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Response to IluvPitties (Original post)
Fri Jan 12, 2018, 01:01 AM
roamer65 (33,993 posts)
15. Keep your eyes on the prize.
November 2018.
The more this shitbag opens his putrid mouth, the surer the electoral decimation of the Pedo Party becomes... ![]() |
Response to IluvPitties (Original post)
Fri Jan 12, 2018, 01:06 AM
alittlelark (18,751 posts)
16. Not in the slightest....
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Response to IluvPitties (Original post)
Fri Jan 12, 2018, 01:06 AM
LuckyCharms (14,406 posts)
17. yep. n/t
Response to IluvPitties (Original post)
Fri Jan 12, 2018, 01:13 AM
smirkymonkey (63,221 posts)
18. I know how you feel.
I am sorry for your despair and I empathize with you. However, don't give up. Evil never wins. We just have to keep fighting this sickness and ultimately they will fail. Take heart and try to distract yourself with something that lifts your heart for a little while. This can't go on forever.
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Response to IluvPitties (Original post)
Fri Jan 12, 2018, 01:15 AM
Skittles (148,565 posts)
19. there are more of us who have your back than there are vile assholes like them
we WILL prevail
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Response to IluvPitties (Original post)
Fri Jan 12, 2018, 01:22 AM
GulfCoast66 (11,949 posts)
20. Nope. We are fighting the final battle. You can help
You youngsters do no remember when things were worse. And this 50 something had no idea what 70 something liberals experienced.
We are winning. Once this reactionary spasm is over, it is over. Just keep fighting. |
Response to IluvPitties (Original post)
Fri Jan 12, 2018, 01:24 AM
IluvPitties (3,181 posts)
21. Thanks, everyone! You guys are awesome.
It is hard not to lose focus on the midterms. The man is really damaging our nation.
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Response to IluvPitties (Original post)
Fri Jan 12, 2018, 01:31 AM
Boomerproud (6,816 posts)
22. I have had many days like yours since November 9, 2016.
Just when I feel the worst, I realize somehow that I am giving a waste of a human being power over me that he doesn't deserve (and believe me, he wants that power). Somehow you have to set up a mental/emotional block to save your sanity and humanity.
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Response to IluvPitties (Original post)
Fri Jan 12, 2018, 01:58 AM
Bernardo de La Paz (44,673 posts)
24. It is not hopeless. Seemed hopeless under Reagan, Nixon, W. USA bounced back.
It seemed hopeless under Nixon. We got Carter and an irreversable emphasis on human rights worldwide.
It seemed hopeless under Reagan. We got Clinton and a return to economic sanity. It seemed hopeless under W. We got Obama and a return to intelligence, grace, and economic sanity. The USA will bounce back. Do not abandon hope. Resist. Persist. Triumph. ![]() ![]() |
Response to IluvPitties (Original post)
Fri Jan 12, 2018, 02:00 AM
oasis (48,810 posts)
26. Put your anger to work by helping to flip congress to Democratic blue.
The sun will shine for you again by the end of the year.
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Response to IluvPitties (Original post)
Fri Jan 12, 2018, 02:21 AM
Leghorn21 (13,219 posts)
27. Yes. No, no, Im fine. No, actually, I cant think straight and can barely fucking breathe. Wait, no,
yes, I am running on all six, and We, the Proud and Sanctified Citizens of America will take down this cabal of traitorous mobsters not only here, but across the Planet.
Hopefully. Maybe? I’m...pretty sure... Oh, FUCK YEAH WE WILL, luv!! Rock steady, keep the faith, and take all the breaks you need, my friend - we’ll be right here when you return! ![]() |
Response to IluvPitties (Original post)
Fri Jan 12, 2018, 03:00 AM
yuiyoshida (40,262 posts)
28. Hopelessness? No, anger... but than my
medical problems kick in and its straight to the Cannabis!
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Response to IluvPitties (Original post)
Fri Jan 12, 2018, 03:01 AM
onecaliberal (29,289 posts)
29. Im really angry and trying to put it to good use.
Response to onecaliberal (Reply #29)
Fri Jan 12, 2018, 03:36 AM
GallopingGhost (2,404 posts)
33. +1000
Channel your feelings into useful anger.
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Response to IluvPitties (Original post)
Fri Jan 12, 2018, 03:16 AM
SunSeeker (49,125 posts)
30. Get involved with your local Democratic Party.
Canvas for candidates, phone bank and have fun with your fellow Democrats.
Be part of the resistance that will push the Blue Wave across the US. You'll meet lots of like-minded people, you will feel like you are part of the solution (because you are!) and you won't feel so hopeless. |
Response to IluvPitties (Original post)
Fri Jan 12, 2018, 03:19 AM
pnwmom (107,639 posts)
31. Here's where we need to focus: turning over Congress. At least one House.
Then the Dems will control ALL the committees and can investigate DT and all his minions. And if he fires Mueller, the Dems can hire him. By the time we unearth a fraction of what is out there, the Senate will be begging the House to impeach -- to put everyone out of their misery.
So please don't feel hopeless. Let the anxiety energize you, not paralyze you. ![]() |
Response to IluvPitties (Original post)
Fri Jan 12, 2018, 03:55 AM
Jspur (568 posts)
34. I'm also in my 30s.
A little bit about me my parents are from India but I was born in this country. Lucky for me my parents were both naturalize US citizens when I was born. I lived in Boston up until I was 11 and then moved to NC. In both case growing up was difficult because I was the only Indian kid in school and in my white neighborhood. I would always hear the cruel racist insults such as "Go back to India. Go back to where you came from." I would get into a lot of fist fights with racist kids. Some fights I won and some I lost. I remember trying to convince some of these racist kids that I wasn't a bad person but they weren't having it. They were pretty much determined to be racist bigots forever. This is why I don't believe Trump supporters are worth reasoning with. Keep in mind I put up with all this crap for the first 18 years of my life.
Now you may think it got better once I went to college but it didn't get better immediately. I was 18 when 9/11 happened which was terrible for me because I'm a brown person. They were thousands of Indians across the country who were dealing with being mistaken for Muslims and were victims of hate crime. My birth religion is Sikhism but I'm agnostic and I don't wear a turban. The first year during 9/11 I dealt with random people trying to start fights with me on the streets including students. This one man pulled a knife on me but I was able to defend myself. A lot of times these racist scumbags would scream terrorist as I walked by. It was terrible when I would walk into the school cafeteria and everybody would straight up stare at me or try to avoid me. This was the case when I went to any place out in public. Eventually things got better and I made friends but I had strong hatred for Bush. I felt Bush didn't do enough to stop hate crimes against brown people in this country but helped encourage it indirectly by pushing his anti-terrorist propaganda bs such as his famous "You either with us or against us" slogan. During Bush's presidency I joined up with student political groups that were anti-Bush and we would organize protest against him. I remember attending a school protest that got over 10,000 people that was against the Iraq war. I enjoyed screaming fuck Bush with over 10,000 people in the streets. It was a lot of fun and therapeutic to know I wasn't alone and they were other people who also hated Bush out there. This was big for me because keep in mind social media was pretty much non-existent back then so it was much harder to connect with people who had similar beliefs or get a pulse of how people were really thinking outside of what the media reported. I would participate in more protests against Bush and had a lot of optimism that this POS would not win a second term. Unfortunately I was wrong and this guy won a second term during my junior year. I remember me and a bunch of friends were devastated and was shocked that this clown could win a second term. That victory by Bush was very demoralizing for me. I became very cynical and lost faith in this country and was no longer proud to be an American. I would graduate from school and get a job and just go through the every day motions of being a normal working adult. Suddenly a few years later Barack came out of nowhere and restored my optimism. Trump is a scumbag but I have been through hell and back during the first 20 some years of my life. I survived Bush who I felt was a rotten scumbag during the start of my adulthood. I understand your anger of feeling targeted due to race because of the president. I felt Bush's idiocy caused Indians and other brown people to be targeted in this country. Trump's racist trolling doesn't phase me because I have dealt with it my whole entire life. Don't let it dominate your life that's how he demoralizes people. It sucks right now but Trump will not be president forever. Eventually this will come to pass. |
Response to Jspur (Reply #34)
Fri Jan 12, 2018, 07:07 AM
HipChick (25,466 posts)
45. That side of America will always be there...
No matter who is sitting in the WH
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Response to Jspur (Reply #34)
Fri Jan 12, 2018, 06:03 PM
Skittles (148,565 posts)
48. excellent post, Jspur
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Response to IluvPitties (Original post)
Fri Jan 12, 2018, 04:14 AM
Jane Austin (9,199 posts)
35. Trump was like this all along.
The only thing new is that more and more people are becoming aware of it.
The opportunity to correct it can come only as more and more people recognize him for what he is. |
Response to Jane Austin (Reply #35)
Fri Jan 12, 2018, 06:48 AM
eyeofnewt (146 posts)
41. I agree
I don’t think he’s any different than he was yrs ago making appearances on Howard Stern and more recently his tweets from pre-candidacy, but possibly his low IQ, classlessness, ignorance and arrogance are exacerbated by his increased exposure as pResident and the stunning realization that even he has reached an exalted position he could never admit he’s unqualified for...so on he babbles and flounders and fails.
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Response to IluvPitties (Original post)
Fri Jan 12, 2018, 05:21 AM
MFM008 (19,698 posts)
36. Get angry
Get determined.
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Response to IluvPitties (Original post)
Fri Jan 12, 2018, 05:41 AM
HipChick (25,466 posts)
37. colored? Really, using that word is as offensive as it gets..
Response to Demit (Reply #38)
Fri Jan 12, 2018, 06:34 AM
HipChick (25,466 posts)
40. It's a racial slur...
Response to HipChick (Reply #40)
Fri Jan 12, 2018, 07:00 AM
Demit (11,238 posts)
43. It is hardly as offensive as it gets, is what I mean.
And note that the OP was using it interchangeably with "people of color." Do you find that offensive too? And if not, why not?
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Response to Demit (Reply #43)
Fri Jan 12, 2018, 07:05 AM
HipChick (25,466 posts)
44. it's a racial slur..
Look up the history...
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Response to HipChick (Reply #44)
Fri Jan 12, 2018, 08:07 AM
Demit (11,238 posts)
46. I find calling women "chicks" offensive.
It's men's way of reducing women to a thing, a little thing they play with. But it's you calling yourself a chick, so I guess you're comfortable with it. So, even though I think it's demeaning, it's your choice, so it's not something I would alert on or anything.
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Response to IluvPitties (Original post)
Fri Jan 12, 2018, 06:06 AM
joshcryer (62,168 posts)
39. I simply have no respect for the Presidency.
So I can be more apathetic about it now.
Sucked I spent 8 years defending Obama and now I don't have the energy to go after Trump. Trump at least is so bad I don't have to expend that energy. I mean we have national news going on about how shit he is. That's never happened before in my lifetime. Even when Bush did his stupid shit and made a mockery of the US. |
Response to IluvPitties (Original post)
Fri Jan 12, 2018, 07:00 AM
Demsrule86 (65,518 posts)
42. Trump is the worst president in my lifetime. Don't be hopeless. It wasn't that long ago that we
had it all (until 10). We can again if we pull together and vote. Work for 18 and 20. Trump and his minions are the minority. And I truly believe this is the last gasp for Republicans...we will have to worry about the courts but it will get better.
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