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Fri Dec 29, 2017, 03:36 PM

Pierce: Trumps New York Times Interview Is a Portrait of a Man in Cognitive Decline

http://www.esquire.com/news-politics/politics/a14516912/donald-trump-new-york-times-michael-schmidt/
Trump’s New York Times Interview Is a Portrait of a Man in Cognitive Decline

I don’t care whether Michael Schmidt was tough enough. We’ve got bigger problems.
By Charles P. Pierce
Dec 29, 2017

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Over the past 30 years, I’ve seen my father and all of his siblings slide into the shadows and fog of Alzheimer’s Disease. (the president's father developed Alzheimer's in his 80s.) In 1984, Ronald Reagan debated Walter Mondale in Louisville and plainly had no idea where he was. (Would that someone on the panel had asked him. He’d have been stumped.) Not long afterwards, I was interviewing a prominent Alzheimer’s researcher for a book I was doing, and he said, “I saw the look on his face that I see every day in my clinic.” In the transcript of this interview, I hear in the president*’s words my late aunt’s story about how we all walked home from church in the snow one Christmas morning, an event I don’t recall, but that she remembered so vividly that she told the story every time I saw her for the last three years of her life.

In this interview, the president* is only intermittently coherent. He talks in semi-sentences and is always groping for something that sounds familiar, even if it makes no sense whatsoever and even if it blatantly contradicts something he said two minutes earlier.To my ears, anyway, this is more than the president*’s well-known allergy to the truth. This is a classic coping mechanism employed when language skills are coming apart. (My father used to give a thumbs up when someone asked him a question. That was one of the strategies he used to make sense of a world that was becoming quite foreign to him.) My guess? That’s part of the reason why it’s always “the failing New York Times,” and his 2016 opponent is “Crooked Hillary."

In addition, the president* exhibits the kind of stubbornness you see in patients when you try to relieve them of their car keys–or, as one social worker in rural North Carolina told me, their shotguns. For example, a discussion on health-care goes completely off the rails when the president* suddenly recalls that there is a widely held opinion that he knows very little about the issues confronting the nation. So we get this.

But Michael, I know the details of taxes better than anybody. Better than the greatest C.P.A. I know the details of health care better than most, better than most. And if I didn’t, I couldn’t have talked all these people into doing ultimately only to be rejected.


This is more than simple grandiosity. This is someone fighting something happening to him that he is losing the capacity to understand. So is this.

We’re going to win another four years for a lot of reasons, most importantly because our country is starting to do well again and we’re being respected again. But another reason that I’m going to win another four years is because newspapers, television, all forms of media will tank if I’m not there because without me, their ratings are going down the tubes. Without me, The New York Times will indeed be not the failing New York Times, but the failed New York Times. So they basically have to let me win. And eventually, probably six months before the election, they’ll be loving me because they’re saying, “Please, please, don’t lose Donald Trump.” O.K.


In Ronald Reagan’s second term, we ducked a bullet. I’ve always suspected he was propped up by a lot of people who a) didn’t trust vice-president George H.W. Bush, b) found it convenient to have a forgetful president when the subpoenas began to fly, and c) found it helpful to have a “detached” president when they started running their own agendas – like, say, selling missiles to mullahs. You’re seeing much the same thing with the congressional Republicans. They’re operating an ongoing smash-and-grab on all the policy wishes they’ve fondly cultivated since 1981. Having a president* who may not be all there and, as such, is susceptible to flattery because it reassures him that he actually is makes the heist that much easier.

So, no, I don’t particularly care whether Michael Schmidt was tough enough, or asked enough follow-up questions. I care about this.

I’m always moving. I’m moving in both directions. We have to get rid of chainlike immigration, we have to get rid of the chain. The chain is the last guy that killed. … [Talking with guests.] … The last guy that killed the eight people. … [Inaudible.] … So badly wounded people. … Twenty-two people came in through chain migration. Chain migration and the lottery system. They have a lottery in these countries. They take the worst people in the country, they put ‘em into the lottery, then they have a handful of bad, worse ones, and they put them out. ‘Oh, these are the people the United States. …” … We’re gonna get rid of the lottery, and by the way, the Democrats agree with me on that. On chain migration, they pretty much agree with me.


We’ve got bigger problems.

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babylonsister Dec 2017 OP
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Cha Dec 2017 #19
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Cha Dec 2017 #22
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Response to babylonsister (Original post)

Fri Dec 29, 2017, 03:39 PM

1. People who review dotard's old speeches/interviews

Say there is a marked difference between then and now.

I still think NYT could have challenged him on one thing.

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Response to mcar (Reply #1)

Fri Dec 29, 2017, 04:36 PM

19. Of course, Schmidt should have challenged

the idiot trump.. he should not be given a free pass. That's one reason we're in this tragic mess now.. the f***ing media Normalizing the pervert.

mcar

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Response to Cha (Reply #19)

Fri Dec 29, 2017, 04:53 PM

21. Exactly! They don't have the balls to challenge him on anything.

Dereliction of duty. They are failing miserably at their jobs and we the people are suffering for it. They have an obligation to us and they are neglecting it for the sake of profit and ratings.

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Response to smirkymonkey (Reply #21)

Fri Dec 29, 2017, 04:57 PM

22. Very Well said, smirky!

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Response to Cha (Reply #19)

Fri Dec 29, 2017, 05:12 PM

23. I'm glad he didn't challenge Trump

Otherwise the narrative would have been how unfair the leftist media was to the POTUS. It would have been all about the questions.

The stark reality is that our POTUS is condemned by his own words. He was unfiltered and there is something horribly, horribly wrong with him. And with Republicans for allowing this travesty to continue.
It was there for all to see.

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Response to mgardener (Reply #23)

Fri Dec 29, 2017, 05:38 PM

24. There was a point early on in the Grill Room interview given that Trump "asked"

the reporter if he would play nice...any biting questions and he would have fled.

Better this proof of dementia than just another tweet.

This proof of dementia interview is for the record books. Does the annual physical exam of a President include a mental exam?

"TRUMP: No, it doesn’t bother me because I hope that he’s going to be fair. I think that he’s going to be fair. And based on that [inaudible]. There’s been no collusion. But I think he’s going to be fair. And if he’s fair — because everybody knows the answer already, Michael. I want you to treat me fairly. O.K.?"

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Response to mgardener (Reply #23)

Fri Dec 29, 2017, 05:44 PM

28. By "challenge" I meant he could have

at least ask.. "Who are the Democrats that make up virtually every Democrat?"

How is that unfair to poor Donald?

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Response to Cha (Reply #28)

Fri Dec 29, 2017, 08:41 PM

53. I agree with you. We have the perfect

Storm for the destruction of democracy: an inept and incompetent Congress and Senate, an inept and incompetent president*, and an inept and incompetent press (journalists).

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Response to jrthin (Reply #53)

Fri Dec 29, 2017, 08:49 PM

54. Yes, jr.. we have the perfect storm

for a global disaster of an unimaginable magnitude.

Somebody in the m$m needs to do their MF job to expose this idiot.. that the Russians hacked into the white house.

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Response to mgardener (Reply #23)

Fri Dec 29, 2017, 06:00 PM

37. N/T

I agree with you. 100%.

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Response to mgardener (Reply #23)

Fri Dec 29, 2017, 07:14 PM

42. I agree.....he let Trump talk...gave him rope to hang himself.....

Tough follow up questions would have ended the unguarded stream of "consciousness" (note the quotes) that was recorded, and which has had so much impact. It also may have totally ended the interview.

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Response to mgardener (Reply #23)

Fri Dec 29, 2017, 08:14 PM

51. Agreed. He let trump ramble on and reveal the extent of his mental deterioration.

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Response to mgardener (Reply #23)

Sat Dec 30, 2017, 12:42 AM

63. Yes

Letting Trump just speak spontaneously, is more revealing. People can hear how incoherent and deranged he is. Normally I would say he should be challenged, but I think in this instance, letting him ramble was a better course.

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Response to Cha (Reply #19)

Fri Dec 29, 2017, 05:39 PM

25. Mr President, you said many times you and your rich friends

would lose a lot of $$$ with this tax bill. Yet just the other day, you greeted your paying members here and told them they'd make a fortune off it.

Can you explain the discrepancy?

Cha.

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Response to mcar (Reply #25)

Fri Dec 29, 2017, 05:41 PM

26. And yet being caught in yet another in a long line of lies seems to make little

difference to the voters.

Otherwise his popularity number would plummet even more than it has.

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Response to Eliot Rosewater (Reply #26)

Fri Dec 29, 2017, 05:44 PM

30. Some will never, ever, change their minds

Same with Nixon. He had a solid 25-30% of supporters to the bitter end.

IIRC, his resignation was the Genesis of the RW movement WRT media, communication, etc. They have been playing a long game.

Eliot.

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Response to mcar (Reply #25)

Fri Dec 29, 2017, 05:44 PM

31. That would be easy to explain.

 

Drumpf will say he did not write the bill, he merely signed it.

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Response to quartz007 (Reply #31)

Fri Dec 29, 2017, 05:46 PM

35. He said it

He should be held to account for it.

He also said in this interview that he knows more about the tax bill than a CPA. That would have been a perfect segue.

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Response to quartz007 (Reply #31)

Sat Dec 30, 2017, 12:59 PM

84. I call it the trump tax travesty. They hung Obamas name on ACA,and trump should get the

credit for this monstrosity.

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Response to mcar (Reply #25)

Fri Dec 29, 2017, 05:46 PM

34. I know, right.. just simple respectful

questions. How is that mean to the Liar in Tweet?

mcar

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Response to Cha (Reply #34)

Fri Dec 29, 2017, 07:28 PM

44. I have seen

President Obama being ripped to shreds by interviewers. Remember O'Reilly interrupting him constantly? Steve Croft on "60 Minutes" was really disrespectful when he interviewed President Obama. He could not keep his dislike from showing through. Now, we have the orange ass, and people kiss his ring. DISGUSTING. We went from Class to Crass in a matter of one election. The damage done to this country, here and abroad will take years to repair.

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Response to Scarsdale (Reply #44)

Fri Dec 29, 2017, 07:39 PM

48. Exactly right, Scarsdale.. That interviewers like Croft would

be rude to President Obama was a given.. we expected it in advance. And, Obama didn't deserve it.

Can't forget chuck todd's infamous interviews with President Obama.

Chuck Todd Grills President Obama On Immigration Reform, ISIS, In ‘Meet The Press’ Debut:

http://deadline.com/2014/09/president-obama-chuck-todd-interview-meet-press-830656/

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Response to Cha (Reply #19)

Fri Dec 29, 2017, 05:44 PM

29. So sick of their shit

Why are they still tiptoeing around this bloated, lying, stupid orange gasbag? And why is the entire Repuke party offering him blowies?

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Response to thegoose (Reply #29)

Fri Dec 29, 2017, 06:03 PM

38. I know right.. they steno for trump

while they super rudely grilled President Obama and Hillary Clinton.

As for the heinous, asshole repubs.. they don't want to rock the boat.. trump is getting them everything they want.

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Response to Cha (Reply #38)

Fri Dec 29, 2017, 07:31 PM

46. Blackmail?

Rand Paul and Lindsey Graham both spoke the truth about tRump for a while. Then they went golfing with him, and did a 180 degree swivel. The Russians got into the RNC records, too, and know all the dirty little secrets. I am convinced they are being blackmailed. That, plus they all took lots of Russian $$$$.

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Response to Scarsdale (Reply #46)

Fri Dec 29, 2017, 07:41 PM

49. Yeah, I forgot about that.. thank you!

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Response to Cha (Reply #19)

Sat Dec 30, 2017, 06:26 PM

89. You said someone should've asked him if he knows where he is

Same with Trump. The republican party has no conscience and they just looted the treasury and Trump is misled everyday by them. This is not America and Trump is a non functioning PINO and the oligarchs have already taken over the MSM. Make America, America Again(MAAA). Dump the republicans.

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Response to mcar (Reply #1)

Sat Dec 30, 2017, 07:59 AM

81. Same thing was pointed out with regard to W.

By the time he was inaugurated his thought processes/language had deteriorated markedly from ~15 years before.

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Response to babylonsister (Original post)

Fri Dec 29, 2017, 03:40 PM

2. K&R

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Response to babylonsister (Original post)

Fri Dec 29, 2017, 03:43 PM

3. my father had

dementia... this article is pretty spot on

The president* exhibits the kind of stubbornness you see in patients when you try to relieve them of their car keys.

In this interview, the president* is only intermittently coherent. He talks in semi-sentences and is always groping for something that sounds familiar, even if it makes no sense whatsoever and even if it blatantly contradicts something he said two minutes earlier. To my ears, anyway, this is more than the president*’s well-known allergy to the truth. This is a classic coping mechanism employed when language skills are coming apart. (My father used to give a thumbs up when someone asked him a question. That was one of the strategies he used to make sense of a world that was becoming quite foreign to him.)


coping mechanisms

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Response to handmade34 (Reply #3)

Fri Dec 29, 2017, 03:59 PM

6. I see the coping mechanisms as well. It's really frightening. nt

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Response to Hekate (Reply #6)

Fri Dec 29, 2017, 05:42 PM

27. The REALLY frightening thing is the Republican controlled Congress.

They're a far cry from the Republicans of Nixon's day. It's obvious that a Senate led by a blatantly, viciously "party over country" McConnell and a House led by a clueless and inaffactive Ryan (the most overrated politician in recent history: thanks again, Joe Biden for exposing that back in 2012) will never put a stop to an obviously unhinged POTUS. They'll get all the goodies for the One Percent that they possibly can to ensure huge donations from them. Many on line are quoting Yeats' "The Second Coming." Read it if you're not familiar. It was written after WWI, but is SO relevant today.

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Response to maddiemom (Reply #27)

Fri Dec 29, 2017, 06:10 PM

39. Here's Yeats' "The Second Coming"

The Second Coming
By William Butler Yeats

Turning and turning in the widening gyre
The falcon cannot hear the falconer;
Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold;
Mere anarchy is loosed upon the world,
The blood-dimmed tide is loosed, and everywhere
The ceremony of innocence is drowned;
The best lack all conviction, while the worst
Are full of passionate intensity.

Surely some revelation is at hand;
Surely the Second Coming is at hand.
The Second Coming! Hardly are those words out
When a vast image out of Spiritus Mundi
Troubles my sight: somewhere in sands of the desert
A shape with lion body and the head of a man,
A gaze blank and pitiless as the sun,
Is moving its slow thighs, while all about it
Reel shadows of the indignant desert birds.
The darkness drops again; but now I know
That twenty centuries of stony sleep
Were vexed to nightmare by a rocking cradle,
And what rough beast, its hour come round at last,
Slouches towards Bethlehem to be born?

---------------

Agreed. There's much in this poem that speaks to today's circumstances. Especially, "A gaze blank and pitiless as the sun."

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Response to maddiemom (Reply #27)

Fri Dec 29, 2017, 07:20 PM

43. Yes, the GOP Congress is appalling on so many levels. I'm a Yeats fan from way back...

... I've committed poems and parts of poems to memory, his language is so beautiful.

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Response to handmade34 (Reply #3)

Fri Dec 29, 2017, 04:17 PM

14. Grapsing familiar repetitive speech patterns from his huckster days

I think it's two-fold with Trump. It seems like he's trying to hold things together, but can't always grasp what's going on around him, and I think the repetition is very familiar to him. It's an old huckster's gimmick. Tell them what you're going to say, then say it, then tell them what you just said. The human brain is highly susceptible to repetition, and salespeople and marketers (like Trump) are adept in repeating themselves to make sure an idea or concept sticks in the mind of the audience.

I think he's falling back on this well-rehearsed huckster's trick while he's wheeling to find something to say in his increasingly foggy mind.

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Response to handmade34 (Reply #3)

Fri Dec 29, 2017, 08:19 PM

52. My mother had Alzheimer's. trump's behavior and speech issues are very familiar.

Add that interview to his two handed grasping of the water bottle - hand/eye coordination was another thing that spiraled, rapidly, with my mom. I eventually had to sit next to her, at meals, and guide her fork to the food, and the the food to her mouth. It was heartbreaking.

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Response to Siwsan (Reply #52)

Fri Dec 29, 2017, 09:30 PM

57. yes heartbreaking




my father became so frustrated and confused... he chose to just quit eating and soon after drinking... it didn't take long and he died a couple of days before Glen Campbell did... my father was still pretty healthy physically and I realized that he saved himself (and all of us) years of heartbreak...


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Response to handmade34 (Reply #57)

Fri Dec 29, 2017, 09:47 PM

58. My heartfelt sympathies, to you

We were lucky with Mom. Her decline was rapid - at first not a good thing because she became very paranoid and mean. But then something switched and she became very docile and childlike. She always knew who I was, even if everybody else became a stranger. Her last leg of that awful journey was relatively fast. She fell, didn't break anything, but she was gone about 6 weeks later, which was just 3 weeks after we lost my sister to cancer. 2015 was an awful year.

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Response to Siwsan (Reply #58)

Sat Dec 30, 2017, 12:39 AM

61. "Paranoid and mean." Trump in a nutshell.

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Response to babylonsister (Original post)

Fri Dec 29, 2017, 03:49 PM

4. Having been through dementia with my parents, I'd say Pierce nails it.

From the article>

This is more than simple grandiosity. This is someone fighting something happening to him that he is losing the capacity to understand.

End snip>

That is one of the clearest descriptions of early to mid-stage dementia that I have seen.

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Response to babylonsister (Original post)

Fri Dec 29, 2017, 03:57 PM

5. Stupid RepubliCONs haven't figured out that 25th'ing Trump is their easiest way out. . . . nt

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Response to babylonsister (Original post)

Fri Dec 29, 2017, 04:03 PM

7. Where is the complete transcript, not just the parts that make Trump look good?



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Response to L. Coyote (Reply #7)

Fri Dec 29, 2017, 04:31 PM

18. Ah, jeez - L. You cut to the chase, again.

There are NO numbers that make it look good. Unless you live in lala land, or are taking advantage of the orange turd for your personal advantage.

Hmmm. Ronnie, GHWB, GWB. Has there been a 'uglican pResident that wasn't prematurely (using "maturely" for W who wasn't) senile?

Is there something in their water? In their handlers/food? Is it the Blind Watchmaker determining that 'uglican pResidents will be stoopid and manipulatable?

Of course the history will be written by the victors. Let us not have a history that consists of "See Jane run. See George kill Jane."

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Response to L. Coyote (Reply #7)

Sat Dec 30, 2017, 02:33 AM

69. The afternoon and evening gang at MSNBC were going over the whole transcript yesterday...

As far as I could tell, they were reading unedited and unredacted parts of that, not the finished article. It was damning as all hell.

I am glad the interviewer allowed the Mad King to simply ramble on, and did not challenge him. Any challenge at all to this demented old man and he would have ended the whole thing with a bellow for security guards to toss the offender out, and might have ordered the confiscation of his notes and recorder as well. As it was, we all get to see a man who really ought to be in the Memory Unit of the retirement home, not the Oval Office.

I'll tell you who I really want to see peppered with tough questions are the enablers. Sarah Huckabee, Kellyanne Conway, the WH staff, any GOP Senator or Rep you care to name. Imagine their faces when asked: "The president is clearly mentally incapacitated. What do you plan to do about that?" And then asked again at every presser. Just describe his observable behavior and ask about it.

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Response to Hekate (Reply #69)

Sat Dec 30, 2017, 11:36 AM

83. NYT released excerpts, not the whole thing.

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Response to babylonsister (Original post)

Fri Dec 29, 2017, 04:05 PM

8. Another bullseye from Charlie Pierce. Required reading, folks. (nt)

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Response to babylonsister (Original post)

Fri Dec 29, 2017, 04:05 PM

9. RepubliCON "smash and grab" sums up their actions precisely: CONs judges, deregulation, greed. . nt

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Response to babylonsister (Original post)

Fri Dec 29, 2017, 04:09 PM

10. The arteries are hardening by the day

turn up the skillet and add more bacon fat

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Response to babylonsister (Original post)

Fri Dec 29, 2017, 04:09 PM

11. Going through the taking away the car keys stage now

with my dad...its a hard thing to watch

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Response to babylonsister (Original post)

Fri Dec 29, 2017, 04:10 PM

12. As great a writer............

as Charlie Pierce is, I cannot say I feel any better after reading this!

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Response to babylonsister (Original post)

Fri Dec 29, 2017, 04:17 PM

13. Compare that to the way Hillary or Obama speaks

Like in complete sentences with complete responsible thoughts.

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Response to Auntie Bush (Reply #13)

Fri Dec 29, 2017, 06:31 PM

41. Or even old interviews with Trump

He was never a genius, but the difference between his speaking abilities between years ago and now is alarming.

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Response to babylonsister (Original post)

Fri Dec 29, 2017, 04:20 PM

15. Will this be addressed when he has his physical in January?

And if the alarm is sounded, what is the course of action? You'd think that after Reagan they'd have put something in place for this circumstance.

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Response to onlyadream (Reply #15)

Sat Dec 30, 2017, 02:34 AM

70. There won't be a physical, any more than we'll see his tax returns. It's another lie. nt

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Response to babylonsister (Original post)

Fri Dec 29, 2017, 04:30 PM

16. I went through it with both my parents

My mother made the decision not to drive anymore. I was glad. My father would not, and I had to insist that I drive when we were in the car together. That did not stop him from driving, even when he totaled his truck driving through a stop sign. Later, my sister and I had to make the difficult decision to take his guns away. He never forgive us. It was hard to deal with. Trump is going downhill. He was never that bright to begin with. Let's hope he does not, in a fit of dementia, order a nuke up. Will our system be able to confront a man who has no right being President? Who is in a stage of dementia? God help us all until he can, in some way, be removed from office.

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Response to extvbroadcaster (Reply #16)

Sat Dec 30, 2017, 01:38 AM

65. What you went through w/ your parents regarding driving, then the guns in house is something I have

....also had to deal with and know many people who have had similar circumstances as well with their parents in the later stages of life and when dementia or Alzheimers taking over. Especially hard was when my father started getting angry and I knew then the guns had to go. My brother took them out of the house "for safe keeping" as he told Dad.

But that brings us to Trump....there is no question in the mind of any of those that know the signs and have lived through it. There is no question to the professionals and psychiatrists who "have a duty to warn" and have been warning the signals. There is no question that the "real reason" Ivanka Trump, Jared Kushner and many other of his "handlers" and "enablers" had to move to Washington DC and even have offices in the White House....they all know, even if they don't want to admit it.

Donald Trump had to run for President. Its part of the game that they all have to keep going to keep the family business afloat. Between the monies he has had to beg, borrow, steal from various people in his lifetime, to the "Reality TV Show called Trump", to Pizza Hut Commercials etc. its because he is heavily in debt and needs the cash to be flowing in. And the kids and Son-in-Law are all in on this private family enterprise and that is why they all participate to keep the machine running and the facade up. The members of Congress and his cabinet who enabled him during the campaign and since all know and are going with it to help meet their agenda and their profiteering to keep up the profits and the money flowing as well.

The problem is that this isn't a TV Show or a Game. It is reality. And this man is sick and not well. And our country and the White House and our government is not some production of the ultimate Reality TV Show where each week some drama can happen and we all see who is fired and we stay tuned for which member of the cast is fired or sent home in disgrace or Omarosa is going to threaten a tell-all and we sit in anticipation of seeing what is next.

And Trump is "driving" the country down a one-way road in the wrong direction and he has the "ultimate guns" in his hands....

We better hope he isn't entering the "anger" phase and we better all pray/hope that there is someone who can stop him driving and take those guns away....for the safety of all of us and the World....

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Response to Pachamama (Reply #65)

Sat Dec 30, 2017, 02:37 AM

71. This

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Response to babylonsister (Original post)

Fri Dec 29, 2017, 04:31 PM

17. He's probably right, but his overt sarcasm and bias erode his credibility.

If you're addressing people who don't necessarily see it the way you do, that's no way to sell your views to them. I'm sure it made him feel good to write it, and it makes us feel good to read it, but it's not going to persuade anyone who needs persuading.

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Response to Towlie (Reply #17)

Fri Dec 29, 2017, 04:39 PM

20. Most of this column is quotations from the interview

Interspersed between the quotes are Pierce's personal experience with several family members lost to Alzheimers. I'm not sure where you're finding bias and sarcasm. Certainly Pierce uses those tools in many of his other posts, but this one seems pretty straightforward. Do the clipped quotes read like a rational man in full possession of all his marbles?

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Response to babylonsister (Original post)

Fri Dec 29, 2017, 05:45 PM

32. So WHO is really in charge?

We know that The Donald does nothing all day but drink diet coke, eat KFC, tweet, watch TV, and play golf. He doesn't have the intellectual capacity to do anything in the Oval Office. Who is making the decisions? Is it Pence? A lot of the fundie stuff that is being implemented fits his MO. Scary stuff.

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Response to leftieNanner (Reply #32)

Sat Dec 30, 2017, 01:42 AM

66. +1000

Scary question that needs to be asked....

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Response to leftieNanner (Reply #32)

Sat Dec 30, 2017, 02:54 AM

73. Pence: a modern-day Wormtongue?

constant presence, usually just behind 45, would suggest that.

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Response to yonder (Reply #73)

Sat Dec 30, 2017, 02:57 PM

88. Excellent reference

Wormtongue! And Donald would acquiesce just like King Theoden did in his diminished state.

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Response to babylonsister (Original post)

Fri Dec 29, 2017, 05:45 PM

33. Recommended.

Thank you for this.

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Response to babylonsister (Original post)

Fri Dec 29, 2017, 05:59 PM

36. 'Youre seeing much the same thing with the congressional Republicans.

They’re operating an ongoing smash-and-grab on all the policy wishes they’ve fondly cultivated since 1981. Having a president* who may not be all there and, as such, is susceptible to flattery because it reassures him that he actually is makes the heist that much easier.'

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Response to babylonsister (Original post)

Fri Dec 29, 2017, 06:31 PM

40. Serious mistake to underestimate Trump

 

While suffering dementia he was able to:
> Get the largest tax cut for the wealthy passed
> Got out of Paris accords which is a environmental disaster
> Got out of TPP which hurts trade
> Got rid of ACA mandate which will throw millions off of health insurance
> Restrict immigration
> Increase military spending

He must be stopped and stopped soon!
Best hope is elections in Nov 2018.
Unless Mueller comes up with something.

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Response to quartz007 (Reply #40)

Fri Dec 29, 2017, 07:30 PM

45. Actually, his enablers have done this in his name. From the start they had an agenda that goes back

...decades, and as long as Trump can still scrawl his name and hold up the results like a proud kindergartener, they will prop him up.

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Response to Hekate (Reply #45)

Fri Dec 29, 2017, 07:32 PM

47. That is entirely believable! eom

 

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Response to Hekate (Reply #45)

Sat Dec 30, 2017, 01:53 AM

68. Trump will sign anything they put on his desk

if it benefits the billionaire owners of the Republican Party, benefits Trump-Putin, and hurts the middle class and poor.

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Response to quartz007 (Reply #40)

Sat Dec 30, 2017, 05:32 AM

76. He is blundering and floundering

Around not knowing what he's doing.
What can be undone will be undone and he will take his rightful place as the very worst ...the pinacle of worst in the history of worsts.
Worst person in the world.

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Response to babylonsister (Original post)

Fri Dec 29, 2017, 07:59 PM

50. Thanks Charlie,

Well written. I have gone through it also with a family member.

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Response to babylonsister (Original post)

Fri Dec 29, 2017, 09:08 PM

55. A straight forward analysis of tump and yes

Americans need to be very concerned

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Response to babylonsister (Original post)

Fri Dec 29, 2017, 09:21 PM

56. I'm concerned, yes.

Concerned that this will be tRump's get out of jail free card. Not just for tRump, but for the entire cabal.

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Response to Wednesdays (Reply #56)

Sat Dec 30, 2017, 01:46 AM

67. +1000

Trump's dementia/Mental state may very well be as you said in the end - his "Get out of Jail Free" Card....

Wonder what all the handlers and enablers think their "Get out of Jail Free" Card is....that Trump is the one who orchestrated it all and they were all just "following orders"?

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Response to Pachamama (Reply #67)

Sat Dec 30, 2017, 07:19 AM

79. "Following orders" didn't work in Nuremberg.

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Response to babylonsister (Original post)

Fri Dec 29, 2017, 11:13 PM

59. As I read the transcript and thought about the reporter's questions and manner

it seemed to me that one possible explanation was he sensed he was in the presence of someone who could not handle a more complex level of questioning. Or if it wasn't the complexity, that he was reacting like someone trying to fend off a rage that would prevent him from being banned and having his access cut off. Pierce's observation fits either or both explanations.

A professional reporter should have drilled down, but it could be he knew that would have been ineffective.

As it was, his approach did get Trump to continue talking and being self-revealing.

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Response to babylonsister (Original post)

Fri Dec 29, 2017, 11:14 PM

60. Is any further cognitive decline even possible?

Other than being in a persistent vegetative state, that is?

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Response to babylonsister (Original post)

Sat Dec 30, 2017, 12:41 AM

62. Critics attack New York Times interview with Trump as weak

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/critics-attack-new-york-times-interview-with-trump-as-weak/article/2644579

Media and political professionals are criticizing a new interview the New York Times conducted with President Trump, complaining that Trump wasn't challenged enough.

The Times published its 30-minute, impromptu interview from West Palm Beach, Fla., where the president has been staying over the holidays, on Thursday night.

Reaction on social media by others in the news business was swift.

"I’m sorry but given how few interviews Trump does this was a complete waste of 30 minutes," ................





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Response to L. Coyote (Reply #62)

Sat Dec 30, 2017, 02:49 AM

72. I seriously think the "online critics" are missing the point by a mile. This impulsive reach-out ...

...by the Mad King was extremely revealing of his mental state. Policies have nothing to do with it.

Any challenge to this demented old man would have resulted in his bellowing to end the interview, he likely would have called for security to eject the offender, and could have had the notes and recording confiscated as well. As it was, the reporter has a transcript that paints a devastating picture of a man in dementia.

The people I'd like to see challenged at every turn are his spokespersons and enablers. Imagine the look on Sarah's face when read a quote from the transcript and asked "How does the staff manage his obvious dementia? What is the Cabinet going to do about it?"

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Response to babylonsister (Original post)

Sat Dec 30, 2017, 01:28 AM

64. If this is Alzheimer's, then he would be on medication or go down hill real fast.

Supposedly he will have a physical first of the year. We need to know. We don't need another president with this disease.

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Response to babylonsister (Original post)

Sat Dec 30, 2017, 05:12 AM

74. Pierce is wrong to offer an unqualified opinion

based on anecdotes from his family.

I don't think he's suffering from early altzheimers. I think he's very tired, in great stress from Mueller, deeply insecure because he's so profoundly unqualified and uninformed.

I also think there's an strong element of acting. He's an actor, very talented charlatan and BS artist, able to switch from warm and charming to a cold douchebag in one sentence. I've seen that ability in interviews.

Playing dumb is a very useful tactic. It lowers resistance and gets sympathy. I thought he couldn't read after seeing a deposition from 2016. When asked to read from his own contract, he couldn't make out words; sat there for 15 minutes pretending he couldn't read. He reads just fine. It was bullshit. I've seen his sad little boy victim demeanor in interviews too. Its highly manipulative.

I would believe he's on medication for anxiety, or a stimulant, that may put him in a temporary fog. But in action, Trump seems very calculating.

He "seemed" more articulate in old interviews. But he was just talking the same shallow babble as now. If someone could reference any interview where he exhibits see real substantive,informed brainpower, or real knowledge of a topic, let me know.

This interview from 1987. His answers are as superficial as now.


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Response to Juliusseizure (Reply #74)

Sat Dec 30, 2017, 06:22 AM

77. I'm prone to agree with you.

It's very likely - considering his life-long unhealthy habits - that he takes a number of meds for heart disease. Friends of mine his age take them and they produce highly sedative effects along with mental laziness. However, he is old enough to be experiencing a normal degree of mental degradation (forgetfulness, occasional confusion, etc.) as well.

We also have to remember this is a man totally out of his environment and he has very little knowledge of the workings of government. However, a narcissist can never admit to any shortcomings. He's also not accustomed to the levels of stress this job entails and he could be on meds for that, too.

Unfortunately, we probably will never know the truth about his physical condition unless he completely fails in some way (heart attack, stroke, etc.). I would bet that any physical exam he has will be kept completely under wraps like his tax returns.


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Response to Juliusseizure (Reply #74)

Sat Dec 30, 2017, 06:40 AM

78. Good points

He could be suffering from some sort of early dementia, or he could just be a huge asshole out of his depth. From what I read, he has no skills outside self promotion. Even when he was a young "builder" he had other people do the work. After that he just slapped "Trump" on everything and sold the brand. Whatever the case, he is totally unfit to be President. And you are right, he exhibits no in depth knowledge of anything.

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Response to babylonsister (Original post)

Sat Dec 30, 2017, 05:21 AM

75. Recommended . . .

Thanks for posting. Quite informative.

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Response to babylonsister (Original post)

Sat Dec 30, 2017, 07:38 AM

80. The repugs have fielded this affable, detached, incompetent, mentally lost

stupid, smugly lazy type of leader, with a swirl of crooked corrupt aides surrounding that leader, a bunch of times.

At least as far back as Warren G. Harding. Raygun, Quayle, li'l bush, tRump.

SOP from Standard Oil, IMO.

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Response to Mc Mike (Reply #80)

Sat Dec 30, 2017, 06:56 PM

90. Did you miss the primaries?

 

All other 16 repugs running were against tRump,
is what I recall. Especially Jebbie, teddy and Kasich.

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Response to quartz007 (Reply #90)

Sun Dec 31, 2017, 10:10 PM

92. Interesting take, q.

The way I see it, Infighting between factions or individuals over 'who's in charge' doesn't preclude a commonality in aims or characteristics.

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Response to babylonsister (Original post)

Sat Dec 30, 2017, 08:31 AM

82. On point and scary at the same time.

The House and Senate Republicans KNOW he is dangerous. They reason to themselves that all they have to do is flatter him and they will get their agendas fulfilled. At the same putting the country in danger

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Response to babylonsister (Original post)

Sat Dec 30, 2017, 01:09 PM

85. Excellent read! eom

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Response to babylonsister (Original post)

Sat Dec 30, 2017, 02:05 PM

86. Trump has been showing signs of senility for some time

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Response to babylonsister (Original post)

Sat Dec 30, 2017, 02:15 PM

87. Altzheimers makes for a good court room defence

It also leaves the republicans with an excuse for their backing of him during the election and their support afterwards.

To all those who claim Altzheimers is the reason for Trumps behaviour, I simply ask, during what period or during which era, was Trump suitable to hold any public office, let alone "commander in chief"

Was it in the Vietnam era when he continually dodged the draft using dubious means?

Or has it been in the decades since, where he has been found guilty of racial discrimination in letting of his properties?

Perhaps it was his dodgy dealings and multiple bankruptcies as a property tycoon, where he used bankruptcies to stiff numerous contractors, businesses and partners, forcing many out of business?

Was it during the years when Trump was behaving inappropriately towards his pageant contestants?

Was it when he managed to bankrupt his casino?

His ex-wife claimed battery and rape until a final divorce settlement silenced her.

Over a dozen women have also come forward with claims of rape or assault.

Was he a suitable candidate for president when he campaigned to have the death penalty reintroduced to New York, to enable the execution of the Central Park rapists who were later proven innocent?

Was it when he insulted and abused residents living around his building of a Scottish golf course?

Was it when he was syphoning money from his "charities" to enrich himself?

Was it when he was calling women pigs, or claiming they were too ugly for him to have wanted to assault?

Was it when he was calling Mexicans rapists and criminals?

Was it when he spent years trying to persuade people that Obama was an illegitimate president? questioning his nationality or telling lies about his college achievements?

I could continue, but please, those claiming altzheimers, just point to the moment in Trumps life when he was fit to serve, or when his candidacy was one that any politician who cared about the country could get behind?

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Response to babylonsister (Original post)

Sun Dec 31, 2017, 03:01 AM

91. ...

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