HomeLatest ThreadsGreatest ThreadsForums & GroupsMy SubscriptionsMy Posts
DU Home » Latest Threads » Forums & Groups » Main » General Discussion (Forum) » they got rid of the manda...

Fri Dec 22, 2017, 11:07 PM

they got rid of the mandate NOW

what can be done to preserve Obama care? Are the Dems in congress working on a plan? Can we still win this battle?

33 replies, 3430 views

Reply to this thread

Back to top Alert abuse

Always highlight: 10 newest replies | Replies posted after I mark a forum
Replies to this discussion thread
Arrow 33 replies Author Time Post
Reply they got rid of the mandate NOW (Original post)
bluestarone Dec 2017 OP
still_one Dec 2017 #1
bluestarone Dec 2017 #3
Generic Brad Dec 2017 #9
still_one Dec 2017 #30
Angry Dragon Dec 2017 #2
Irish_Dem Dec 2017 #4
Angry Dragon Dec 2017 #7
Irish_Dem Dec 2017 #8
Angry Dragon Dec 2017 #11
Irish_Dem Dec 2017 #15
Angry Dragon Dec 2017 #26
Irish_Dem Dec 2017 #31
Blue_true Dec 2017 #14
Irish_Dem Dec 2017 #16
Blue_true Dec 2017 #18
Irish_Dem Dec 2017 #21
jberryhill Dec 2017 #24
Irish_Dem Dec 2017 #25
Takket Dec 2017 #13
Blue_true Dec 2017 #33
Iliyah Dec 2017 #5
ecstatic Dec 2017 #6
Iliyah Dec 2017 #12
bluestarone Dec 2017 #10
standingtall Dec 2017 #17
bluestarone Dec 2017 #19
standingtall Dec 2017 #22
bluestarone Dec 2017 #23
0rganism Dec 2017 #20
Turbineguy Dec 2017 #27
bluestarone Dec 2017 #28
grantcart Dec 2017 #29
ck4829 Dec 2017 #32

Response to bluestarone (Original post)

Fri Dec 22, 2017, 11:08 PM

1. not yet. That doesn't happen in 2019. What is the plan? Take back Congress in 2018

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to still_one (Reply #1)

Fri Dec 22, 2017, 11:09 PM

3. for sure

i would be so fucking HAPPY for that

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to still_one (Reply #1)

Fri Dec 22, 2017, 11:21 PM

9. 2020. Not 2018

Unless we get enough senators and congressmen to override a Republican president's veto, we remain screwed.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to Generic Brad (Reply #9)

Sat Dec 23, 2017, 04:32 AM

30. If we get the majority in both houses in 2018, we have an opportunity to undo that clause regarding

the mandate in 2018.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to bluestarone (Original post)

Fri Dec 22, 2017, 11:09 PM

2. If you find any republicans with good souls you might have a chance

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to Angry Dragon (Reply #2)

Fri Dec 22, 2017, 11:12 PM

4. "Republicans with good souls".....

Surely there must be one or two who will not sentence American citizens to death by repealing healthcare.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to Irish_Dem (Reply #4)

Fri Dec 22, 2017, 11:17 PM

7. I have not seen any..........good luck in your hunting

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to Angry Dragon (Reply #7)

Fri Dec 22, 2017, 11:19 PM

8. No heart to hunt for that which does not exist. nt

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to Irish_Dem (Reply #8)

Fri Dec 22, 2017, 11:26 PM

11. You have a nice holiday season

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to Angry Dragon (Reply #11)

Fri Dec 22, 2017, 11:54 PM

15. Same to you Angry Dragon. I enjoy your posts.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to Irish_Dem (Reply #15)

Sat Dec 23, 2017, 12:50 AM

26. Thank you very much

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to Angry Dragon (Reply #26)

Sat Dec 23, 2017, 12:16 PM

31. YW

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to Irish_Dem (Reply #4)

Fri Dec 22, 2017, 11:45 PM

14. You will have better luck finding a live Do-Do bird. nt

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to Blue_true (Reply #14)

Fri Dec 22, 2017, 11:55 PM

16. And I assume if I found one it would have more integrity and character than a GOPer.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to Irish_Dem (Reply #16)

Sat Dec 23, 2017, 12:03 AM

18. Most likely. And also have a good survival story to tell to boot.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to Blue_true (Reply #18)

Sat Dec 23, 2017, 12:20 AM

21. LOL I guess I won't find a bird that has been extinct for 400 years.

BTW That is about how long it would take to find a republican with a soul.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to Irish_Dem (Reply #21)

Sat Dec 23, 2017, 12:35 AM

24. Then again, consider such dinosaurs as Orrin Hatch

 

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to jberryhill (Reply #24)

Sat Dec 23, 2017, 12:38 AM

25. Hatch may not have a soul, but I guess he has a heart since he is now in love

with TrumpWad.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to Angry Dragon (Reply #2)

Fri Dec 22, 2017, 11:33 PM

13. i saw a couple once.......

between the leprechauns and unicorns

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to Takket (Reply #13)

Sat Dec 23, 2017, 05:11 PM

33. Sounds about right. A republican with a soul exists only in fantasyland. nt

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to bluestarone (Original post)

Fri Dec 22, 2017, 11:13 PM

5. mandate

2018

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to bluestarone (Original post)

Fri Dec 22, 2017, 11:15 PM

6. How does the employer mandate remain if the individual mandate is gone?

The employer mandate penalties were supposed to be triggered when a full time employee obtained premium tax credits for individual insurance ("Obamacare" directly from the exchange.

Is that still the case?

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to ecstatic (Reply #6)

Fri Dec 22, 2017, 11:27 PM

12. GOPers thru thier own IRS will still

take monies from your paycheck although as a young person won't have SS, Medicare nor Medicaid when you get older, future

The purpose of the end of Net N . . so the young won't know and think it's normal.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to bluestarone (Original post)

Fri Dec 22, 2017, 11:25 PM

10. with no mandate is the cost going to be way out of reach?

because some will drop out? How does it all work? Can Obama Care survive??? without the mandate

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to bluestarone (Original post)

Fri Dec 22, 2017, 11:59 PM

17. We could get States with Democratic Governors and

Democratic State houses to implement their own healthcare mandates. If there is a willingness there that could go a long way towards softening the blow until after 2020 when we can fix the mess repukes make.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to standingtall (Reply #17)

Sat Dec 23, 2017, 12:14 AM

19. yea we need to come up with something to

keep the Obama Care going til we can PERMANENTLY FIX IT! any more ideas?

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to bluestarone (Reply #19)

Sat Dec 23, 2017, 12:20 AM

22. I dont see any other workable solution

with repukes in control of the federal government. Any thing we can do to help will have to come from the State level in States where we have the power to do something. We do have California and New York the 2 of most populace States in the Country. If we can get the big population States we control to implement their own mandate the impact of the repel of the individual mandate will be minimal.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to standingtall (Reply #22)

Sat Dec 23, 2017, 12:33 AM

23. i like your idea of state level help and

would be nice if some billionaires would set ups a fund to help with this problem too? This i feel is a real sore spot for the Repubs! and i think it would be a real thorn in there side, if help was available for those in need . (somehow make it work)

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to bluestarone (Original post)

Sat Dec 23, 2017, 12:20 AM

20. piece by piece they will tear the ACA down

insurance prices will rise, coverage requirements will disappear
millions will lose insurance coverage
tens of thousands will die
and eventually, Putin willing, America will join the rest of the industrialized world by legislating some form of national health care system, possibly along with a constitutional amendment declaring healthcare as a right.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to bluestarone (Original post)

Sat Dec 23, 2017, 12:52 AM

27. This mandate.

I wonder how much it actually collects. There's no penalty for non-payment and 6 ways to Sunday to get out of paying it. And then it's like $700 per year.

Compared to the pay of health insurance company CEO's, it amounts to nearly nothing.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to Turbineguy (Reply #27)

Sat Dec 23, 2017, 01:06 AM

28. yea i do not know the ins and outs of the mandate as

we are retired and in state insurance which we pay. thats why i guess i don't understand exactly how mandate works. always thought there was help for those that could not afford the premium? I know it's all different now that they did away with the mandate. o I guess im confused to all of it

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to bluestarone (Original post)

Sat Dec 23, 2017, 01:27 AM

29. It will die of slow strangulation unless it is reversed

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to bluestarone (Original post)

Sat Dec 23, 2017, 12:19 PM

32. Not. Paying.

I've said this over and over again. If Trumpcare causes your medical bills to go up while decreasing your quality of care, then do not pay your medical bills or pay as slowly as possible. Seriously, I've got replies telling me that would make insurers angry and that's why they can't do that. That's the point! We all do it, not just the small group of people I've got going with this in addition to myself, then the government has to respond. Sheesh.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink

Reply to this thread