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Thu Dec 21, 2017, 03:01 PM

 

Dems must prep for RW backlash if we win 2018

And if/when we win elections, we may have to step up and defend those victories. I don't mean in court. And I don't mean at the election board. I mean "we may have to put 'Any Means' into "By Any Means Necessary." Look at the facts:

When it was thought that Hillary was gonna win, the militia idiots already stated they were going to start standoff after standoff after standoff after standoff to make sure the government was too consumed by their bullshit to do anything else.
A significant portion of Roy Moore supporters won't accept that they were outvoted. And if these types lose control of the government on a mass scale, they won't go quietly.

We can't depend on the police to defend our voters or our candidates. We saw the NYPD's tantrums. You think the police unions will defend the people who want to dismantle the protections from accountability that they've spent millions to protect? More likely that they'll help the militia freak find his sniper perch and take an opportune coffee break.

Winning the elections will be the first step folks. These guys are cray-cray. And the “proper authorities” will aid and abet these people. The prosecutions will half-ass the cases like they always do against the racists.


https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2017/12/20/1724451/-We-must-be-ready-for-RW-militia-backlash-if-we-win-2018

We can't depend on the police to protect our polling places. Alabama and Virginia have shown the racists that they can't Crosscheck their way to victory. I firmly believe that the Nazis and militias will be using extra-legal means in 2018 and 2020. And not just the standard "Election Day has changed" memes.

And if you think the cops are gonna stop em, look at the social media pages of a good number of cops and pro-cop pages. Quite a lot of "LOL we should be allowed to run over black people and SJWs" memes. They’re going to turn a blind eye to voter intimidation. They're going to let the militants try to use force of arms to invalidate progressive victories. Cops have let violent racists run wild before. Any reports of voter intimidation by the Nazis and RW Militias will be written off as "LOL the Snowflakes are triggered"

It'll be on us to make sure that our people can get to the ballot box safely. And it'll be on us to deal with insurrectionists if they try to stop progressives from taking office with threats of violence.

Because Jeff Sessions sure as hell won't.

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NCDem777 Dec 2017 OP
MFM008 Dec 2017 #1
NCDem777 Dec 2017 #3
brooklynite Dec 2017 #2
NCDem777 Dec 2017 #4
brooklynite Dec 2017 #6
NCDem777 Dec 2017 #10
brooklynite Dec 2017 #11
Lurks Often Dec 2017 #9
gordianot Dec 2017 #5
Orsino Dec 2017 #7
Orrex Dec 2017 #8
L. Coyote Dec 2017 #12

Response to NCDem777 (Original post)

Thu Dec 21, 2017, 03:10 PM

1. They can fear us

And drop dead.

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Response to MFM008 (Reply #1)

Thu Dec 21, 2017, 03:19 PM

3. Personally, it's not them I'm afraid of per se

 

It's the fact that the cops will give them a free hand. Cops hate the idea of civilian review boards, body cams, any sort of police accountability. Democrats have advocated for such. Republicans advocate against it.

It's not in the interest of police to clamp down on racist election day violence and intimidation. So they can't be trusted to do so.

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Response to NCDem777 (Original post)

Thu Dec 21, 2017, 03:18 PM

2. Is today conspiracy theory day?

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Response to brooklynite (Reply #2)

Thu Dec 21, 2017, 03:28 PM

4. Do you trust

 

President "The Nazis are Very Fine People" Trump, to stop the Nazis should they act up?

There is a decent chance I'm wrong. Maybe they won't do anything. If that is the case, that'll be great. And I will post a retraction on DU.

But we don't have reason to trust the legal system. The RWNJ's know that Crosscheck and "forgetting" to deliver voting machines to urban areas won't stop us. But racists were cool with murdering Heather Heyer. I'm not going to presume they'll stop there.

I'm not saying we should go looking for trouble, but if the Nazis and the Bundy worshippers act up, the cops won't stop em.

Remember, the FBI has documented that white supremacists/militia types have infiltrated law enforcement. They are compromised and not to be trusted.

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Response to NCDem777 (Reply #4)

Thu Dec 21, 2017, 03:32 PM

6. I don't see "the Nazis" as anything approaching an effective fighting force

...any more than "the militias" were a serious threat during the Clinton era.

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Response to brooklynite (Reply #6)

Thu Dec 21, 2017, 05:22 PM

10. By themselves

 

Nazis/KKK/Militia boneheads are ineffective. The missing ingredient is state support. It may only be a small percentage of people who will actually act on anything. But if the police aren't inclined to stop them, it becomes a problem.

We have in fact been here before. Last time, the Feds had to be called in because the police sat on their ass and/or actively aided the violent racists. Do you see Trump calling in the National Guard should even a small percentage of these boneheads start crap and the police decide to sit on their ass as "payback" to communities calling for police accountability (as more than a few have "joked" about)? I don't.

With white supremacists having thoroughly infiltrated law enforcement (especially in red states), and the Feds responding to them with a wink and a nudge, I believe we should assume we're on our own.

http://www.esquire.com/news-politics/politics/news/a55695/white-supremacist-law-enforcement/

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Response to NCDem777 (Reply #10)

Thu Dec 21, 2017, 05:42 PM

11. Most of those Cities where you anticipate problems have Democratic Mayors and Councils...

...perhaps you should raise the issue with them.

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Response to brooklynite (Reply #2)

Thu Dec 21, 2017, 04:20 PM

9. Getting to the point every day is conspiracy theory day here

 

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Response to NCDem777 (Original post)

Thu Dec 21, 2017, 03:30 PM

5. Civil violence and physical threats have not worked for the perpetrators in our 250 yr histo

It takes time but the payback comes. Just ask the founders of the Confederacy.

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Response to NCDem777 (Original post)

Thu Dec 21, 2017, 03:33 PM

7. The billionaires are already spending as much as they want to fight us.

I doubt we need to worry about a backlash, since we're feeling the lash now.

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Response to NCDem777 (Original post)

Thu Dec 21, 2017, 03:35 PM

8. Six of one

We'll suffer a backlash if the GOP wins, too

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Response to NCDem777 (Original post)

Thu Dec 21, 2017, 05:46 PM

12. Republicans will start a perfectly timed war to win in 2018.

Invest in military stock.

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