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Wed Dec 20, 2017, 11:33 AM

help with this. if and i repeat IF we get the house and senate in 2018 can we

do anything with the mandate? or anything else in this piece of shit tax plan?

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Reply help with this. if and i repeat IF we get the house and senate in 2018 can we (Original post)
bluestarone Dec 2017 OP
MineralMan Dec 2017 #1
rock Dec 2017 #9
unblock Dec 2017 #2
bluestarone Dec 2017 #7
unblock Dec 2017 #10
bearsfootball516 Dec 2017 #3
Eyeball_Kid Dec 2017 #4
Stinky The Clown Dec 2017 #5
zipplewrath Dec 2017 #6
bluestarone Dec 2017 #8
zipplewrath Dec 2017 #11

Response to bluestarone (Original post)

Wed Dec 20, 2017, 11:35 AM

1. Sure. Any law passed by Congress can be repealed or changed

by the next Congress. Nothing Congress does is permanent, despite language to the contrary.

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Response to MineralMan (Reply #1)

Wed Dec 20, 2017, 11:42 AM

9. "Permanent" in politics means

Until we change it. I.e. the law does not have an expiration date on a part of it. (I'm agreeing with you.)

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Response to bluestarone (Original post)

Wed Dec 20, 2017, 11:35 AM

2. not really, as long as there is a republican president there to veto anything.

we should be in good shape starting january 20, 2020, around noon or so....

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Response to unblock (Reply #2)

Wed Dec 20, 2017, 11:39 AM

7. can you tell us when the mandate is actually stopped?

is it as of today there is no mandate? and also Could that mandate removal part be challenged in court? TY

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Response to bluestarone (Reply #7)

Wed Dec 20, 2017, 11:43 AM

10. pretty sure the mandate will not be effective for tax year 2018.

i.e., you will have to pay it (if applicable) on your 2017 taxes that you file by april 15, 2018.

however, it will not be effective for 2018 taxes, returns filed by april 15, 2019.


could it be challenged in court? i doubt it. at least, i haven't heard any legal argument for this. courts can't reverse a legitimately passed law just because it's stupid.

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Response to bluestarone (Original post)

Wed Dec 20, 2017, 11:37 AM

3. Only if we win back the presidency in 2020

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Response to bluestarone (Original post)

Wed Dec 20, 2017, 11:37 AM

4. Short answer: Yes.

Laws can be repealed, amended, replaced. A democratically controlled Congress can and will do this. Trumpy, however, stands in the way. But he may be gone before the next election. A lot of people may be gone from the Executive Branch before the next election. Nonetheless, a GOPer will remain in charge of the Executive Branch until 2020. So the road is long and treacherous.

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Response to bluestarone (Original post)

Wed Dec 20, 2017, 11:37 AM

5. Only if there are enough votes to override a veto by the MOTHERFUCKER president.

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Response to bluestarone (Original post)

Wed Dec 20, 2017, 11:38 AM

6. Only with Presidential cooperation

Which believe it or not may not be as hard to get as one thinks. Just have to give him "ego cover" so that he can claim it is the "greatest".

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Response to zipplewrath (Reply #6)

Wed Dec 20, 2017, 11:41 AM

8. gotcha there make him

think it's his idea right

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Response to bluestarone (Reply #8)

Wed Dec 20, 2017, 11:44 AM

11. At least that he "cut a deal"

He loves to be the "deal maker".

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