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Tue Dec 19, 2017, 01:33 AM

I received a call my sister, she is worried now about her Social Security and Medicare.

I told her why are you calling me for.

You voted for Trump so go suffer.

You will not be coming to live on my farm.

Go live with Trump.

I will never get someone getting benefits voting republican.

My sister, her husband, and daughter all get SS and Medicare.

Food Stamps also.

Going to get tough on them.

All my sister did was trash President Obama and Hillary Clinton.

Some times people have to learn the hard way.


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Reply I received a call my sister, she is worried now about her Social Security and Medicare. (Original post)
Demtexan Dec 2017 OP
roamer65 Dec 2017 #1
RestoreAmerica2020 Dec 2017 #24
kairos12 Dec 2017 #45
Wellstone ruled Dec 2017 #2
exboyfil Dec 2017 #3
Dreamer Tatum Dec 2017 #4
Demtexan Dec 2017 #5
Dreamer Tatum Dec 2017 #6
Demtexan Dec 2017 #8
FarCenter Dec 2017 #35
chillfactor Dec 2017 #9
Dreamer Tatum Dec 2017 #11
Tipperary Dec 2017 #37
Tess49 Dec 2017 #23
chillfactor Dec 2017 #7
Demtexan Dec 2017 #12
Ilsa Dec 2017 #28
Demtexan Dec 2017 #30
RobinA Dec 2017 #36
Ilsa Dec 2017 #44
BigmanPigman Dec 2017 #10
Demtexan Dec 2017 #13
CousinIT Dec 2017 #14
Demtexan Dec 2017 #15
CousinIT Dec 2017 #17
Demtexan Dec 2017 #18
hamsterjill Dec 2017 #33
No Vested Interest Dec 2017 #16
Demtexan Dec 2017 #19
Demsrule86 Dec 2017 #40
ashling Dec 2017 #20
Demtexan Dec 2017 #21
Pepsidog Dec 2017 #22
lapfog_1 Dec 2017 #25
not fooled Dec 2017 #27
customerserviceguy Dec 2017 #26
blue-wave Dec 2017 #29
Angry Dragon Dec 2017 #31
raccoon Dec 2017 #32
mnhtnbb Dec 2017 #34
Demsrule86 Dec 2017 #39
Demsrule86 Dec 2017 #38
Baitball Blogger Dec 2017 #41
Efilroft Sul Dec 2017 #42
Demtexan Dec 2017 #43
GrapesOfWrath Dec 2017 #46
Demtexan Dec 2017 #47

Response to Demtexan (Original post)

Tue Dec 19, 2017, 01:41 AM

1. This POS tax scam is going to be an epiphany for many.

Too bad they wouldnít have listened to us.

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Response to roamer65 (Reply #1)

Tue Dec 19, 2017, 03:33 AM

24. They'll still vote for trumpf in 2020, that is if he hasn't

..been forced to resign by then,, .and they'll vote republican even though they just got ripped off by their own party. I don't know what it's going to take to open their eyes...they'll find someone else to blame , immigrants, refugees. Sorry, if I may, maybe let them move a mobile home or an RV onto your farm ..be the kind liberal that you are--after all they are familia! Paz.

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Response to roamer65 (Reply #1)

Tue Dec 19, 2017, 01:53 PM

45. I wish you right. I think they will blame Obama. Just like they blamed him for

being President during 9/11.

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Response to Demtexan (Original post)

Tue Dec 19, 2017, 01:46 AM

2. Millions in this same boat.

 

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Response to Demtexan (Original post)

Tue Dec 19, 2017, 01:50 AM

3. Next time she calls

Reflect on the symmetry of the tax plan. It will cost $!50B/yr (probably more but you get the idea). The Treasury is going to need to come up with $150B/yr to retire the Trust Fund securities. Doing this keeps SS whole for another 20 years.

Money is fungible, but it helps to communicate the point. For the life of me I don't know why the Democratic party is not running ads to make this point.

Also make the point that the wealth class contributed nothing to the Social Security Trust Fund, and high income earners did very little when compared to their income. The burden was carried by the middle class workers.

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Response to Demtexan (Original post)

Tue Dec 19, 2017, 01:53 AM

4. Congats - sounds like she needed a stern talking to. nt

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Response to Dreamer Tatum (Reply #4)

Tue Dec 19, 2017, 02:04 AM

5. She sounds really sad and worried.

Her husband is in and out of hospitals.

I put up with my sister when my mother was alive but not anymore.

Tough on her and her family.

She voted her hate now she can deal with it.







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Response to Demtexan (Reply #5)

Tue Dec 19, 2017, 02:06 AM

6. I was being sarcastic - I think you acted shamefully. nt

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Response to Dreamer Tatum (Reply #6)

Tue Dec 19, 2017, 02:14 AM

8. You do not know my sister.

She was raised better.

She got into Fox news and hate radio.

I will not say what she said about democrats and President Obama.

Just lets say it was foul stuff.

She was a union member at one point.

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Response to Demtexan (Reply #8)

Tue Dec 19, 2017, 08:01 AM

35. In her financial situation, she should cancel her cable subscription and stop watching Fox News.

 

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Response to Dreamer Tatum (Reply #6)

Tue Dec 19, 2017, 02:19 AM

9. I do not believe the original poster acted

shamefully....obviously you have NO IDEA how many of us on social security and Medicare survive day-to-day...and if to those services are interrupted, we will die. if any one behaved shamefully, it was YOU!

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Response to chillfactor (Reply #9)

Tue Dec 19, 2017, 02:23 AM

11. I do. nt

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Response to chillfactor (Reply #9)

Tue Dec 19, 2017, 08:15 AM

37. I think you missed Dreamers point. That the op should not abandon his/her sister in time of need.

 

The abandoning is the shameful part.

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Response to Dreamer Tatum (Reply #6)

Tue Dec 19, 2017, 03:17 AM

23. My first thought was that his response to his sister was horrid. However, I have no idea

what their relationship is like. My remaining sibling and I are like minded, and would take care of each other if necessary. My door is always open.

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Response to Demtexan (Original post)

Tue Dec 19, 2017, 02:14 AM

7. Your sister is as insane as the others in the orange one's base....

I voted for Hillary. I am 76 years old. I am sick to death about my social security and Medicare. I will die w/o them. One of my medications is $500 for a 3 month supply and I am on 5 other meds. There is no way I can afford those meds on my own. I guess the orange one and the GOP would be very happy if we old ones die....sorry but I hate your sister. And don't forget the GOP agenda will be"tough" on all of us who depend on social security and Medicare to survive....and the key word here is "survive"..we don't really live.

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Response to chillfactor (Reply #7)

Tue Dec 19, 2017, 02:26 AM

12. I hate my sister and people like her.

I so sorry about your meds.

I am not on any meds but I know a lot who are.

I have a feeling I will be adding to population on the farm before it is all over.

But not my sister.

It was really hard being around her when my mother was alive.

I warned her what would happen if Trump got in.

I hope things work out for best.




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Response to Demtexan (Reply #12)

Tue Dec 19, 2017, 04:28 AM

28. I think the "I told you so" was fair.

Like you said, she bought into the hateful message, blaming minorities, immigrants, Obama, and Hillary. I hope can see through trump's lies now, but it's too late. She other gulible, hateful people ruined the US for everyone except the billionaires.

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Response to Ilsa (Reply #28)

Tue Dec 19, 2017, 04:49 AM

30. She did buy into it.

She changed for the worse.

We were raised better.

We were not raised to hate people like that.

My parents were decent.

She started that crap at the funeral home at the wake for my Mother.

I told her to shut up and have some respect for our Mother.






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Response to Ilsa (Reply #28)

Tue Dec 19, 2017, 08:11 AM

36. It May Be "Fair"

but it wastes a teachable moment.

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Response to RobinA (Reply #36)

Tue Dec 19, 2017, 01:43 PM

44. Maybe not.

It sounds as if she had been extremely headstrong and even offensive. She even ranted at their mother's wake. She is the one that should approach Demtexan with an apology over how narrow-minded and hateful she had been, and that Demtexan had been right.

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Response to Demtexan (Original post)

Tue Dec 19, 2017, 02:20 AM

10. Posts like these make me grateful

since 4 generations of my family are die hard Dems and we bash the GOP at every special family function. It is SO nice to be able to discuss this stuff freely.

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Response to BigmanPigman (Reply #10)

Tue Dec 19, 2017, 02:35 AM

13. Me to.

I wish my Father would have been able to post.

He would have loved it here.

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Response to Demtexan (Original post)

Tue Dec 19, 2017, 02:38 AM

14. My bro and sister both on Medicare and social security as is Mom

ALL of them may suffer cuts. Bro and sister voted Republican (bro voted for TRUMP). Mom voted for Hillary (she doesn't deserve it, they do)

And those of us yet to retire may get NOTHING or severely cut benefits. I'm worried SICK about it. Many have done all they're supposed to do in order to have a secure retirement ONLY TO HAVE IT STOLEN FROM THEM by TRUMP & Co so BILLIONAIRES and CORPRATS can have tax cuts.

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Response to CousinIT (Reply #14)

Tue Dec 19, 2017, 02:44 AM

15. I am a year away from getting SS and Medicare.

I have paid in since I was 16 years old.

The blow back will huge.

Greedy Old Party.

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Response to Demtexan (Reply #15)

Tue Dec 19, 2017, 02:47 AM

17. 10 years here.

I am SCREWED and LIVID that MY OWN FAMILY would vote for me to be UNABLE to retire or to be DESTITUTE and without healthcare if I do.

LIKE THEM, I've worked all my life, paid into SS and saved. I've done all the things I'm supposed to but I will get LESS or NOTHING -- all because assholes like my brother voted for TRUMP (he refused to vote for a woman and said so)

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Response to CousinIT (Reply #17)

Tue Dec 19, 2017, 03:00 AM

18. I hear you.

It will be a rude wake up call for Trump voters.

Places like Florida will get hit hard.

I am pissed off.

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Response to Demtexan (Reply #15)

Tue Dec 19, 2017, 05:47 AM

33. I am about 6 years away and I stay in a panic.

Like you, Iíve worked and paid into Social Security since I was 16. I checked my records the other day and confirmed it.

I stay angry and I stay panicked about what the future will bring. Iím about to lose a job Iíve had for 16 years and havenít been able to find a new one. Itís a common theme for people our age.

Your farm sounds like a great idea. I often tell my friends that the only way many of us are going to survive is to join together, live together, and learn to take care of one another.

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Response to Demtexan (Original post)

Tue Dec 19, 2017, 02:44 AM

16. She deserved your scorn and wrath, no doubt. However, I find it tough to be

hard on my Trump voting relatives.

I really do love them, despite their poor voting habits, and since they don't seem likely to change, we have wordlessly agreed to disagree.

One, who voted Democratic, lives in a nursing facility, using Medicare and Medicaid. Since this is hitting closer to home, I'm hoping the Trumpites are coming to realize how much we need these safety nets.

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Response to No Vested Interest (Reply #16)

Tue Dec 19, 2017, 03:05 AM

19. They will but to late.

My sister just turned into somebody I cannot be around.

I miss my parents but I glad they didn't live to see this.

My mother was so ill she needed a nursing home.



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Response to No Vested Interest (Reply #16)

Tue Dec 19, 2017, 08:24 AM

40. That is how I feel...and my younger brother once a die hard GOP type voted twice for Obama

and voted for Hillary because he despised Trump..he calls himself and independent but hates the GOP ...says Dad would be rolling over in his grave...Dad was more liberal than many Democrats...but he was a Rockefeller Republican. My brother has come around still hope for my other brother and my cousin.

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Response to Demtexan (Original post)

Tue Dec 19, 2017, 03:09 AM

20. Hits close to home

My mil will be 89 this week they all voted for Trump My wife and I and our kids voted for Hillary.


My family were die hard Dems. My mom and dad are dead now, as well as my little brother.



Mom and Dad would have loved it here. They both grew up in the Great Depression. My wife and I are both disabled and are having to downsize fast. We are going to have to find somewhere cheaper to live and will probably move to Arkansas to be near my youngest daughter and her family.

Amazingly enough, this probably won't change a lot of them. I think many of them seriously think it was Obama's fault. They still listen to FUX and believe in their "hearts" that Trump is being mistreated. If everyone would just get out of the way and the press would stop reporting on what Trump is doing so that he could do it all in the dark we would all be ok

Makes me want to vomit.

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Response to ashling (Reply #20)

Tue Dec 19, 2017, 03:14 AM

21. I think you are right.

Some of them will never learn.

Some will.

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Response to Demtexan (Original post)

Tue Dec 19, 2017, 03:16 AM

22. Aint it the truth

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Response to Demtexan (Original post)

Tue Dec 19, 2017, 04:00 AM

25. my entire family

I remember a few years ago at Thanksgiving hearing all of them whine about "takers" and government employees, blah blah blah.

Only thing was, other than ONE niece and myself who had jobs in the private sector, each and every one of them was either on welfare or had a government job of some sort or other.

Pretty sure they are all trump voters... hell they wanted Sarah Palin to run.

I don't go to family get-togethers anymore.

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Response to lapfog_1 (Reply #25)

Tue Dec 19, 2017, 04:27 AM

27. And when their children want good jobs like they had working for the government...

...and find all those jobs gone, with the remaining functions carried out by poorly-paid employees of private contractors, what are those children going to do?

These people amaze me.



And no, I don't feel sorry for anyone who voted for dump. I know a lot of Federal employees who did so, despite warnings, and have no idea what's about to hit them. After their pay is cut and benefits decimated, perhaps they will reconsider.

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Response to Demtexan (Original post)

Tue Dec 19, 2017, 04:13 AM

26. I don't think much will happen to current recipients

It's future ones that will have to worry. I plan on collecting my benefits just over a year from now, a bit early at 63, but soon enough to get something while the getting's good.

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Response to Demtexan (Original post)

Tue Dec 19, 2017, 04:31 AM

29. I Understand

I don't believe you acted shamefully at all. People are voting without realizing the consequences. I know too many who have done this. Their hate for other human beings clouds their judgement and they seem blinded by that hate, unwilling to listen to reason. It appears to be epidemic at times. What have we become as a people? Sometimes tough love is the only way to reach through.

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Response to Demtexan (Original post)

Tue Dec 19, 2017, 04:52 AM

31. tough love

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Response to Demtexan (Original post)

Tue Dec 19, 2017, 05:40 AM

32. "You asked for it, you got it," seems an appropriate quote here. Nt

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Response to Demtexan (Original post)

Tue Dec 19, 2017, 06:14 AM

34. I started collecting SS at 62

because I feared waiting any longer and what Republicans would do to it if they got the chance. I am now 66 and recently separated from my husband. It's possible that Republicans will go after the benefits to which I'm currently entitled after the divorce where I can file for an additional amount up to half of his SS since mine is much lower.

Fortunately I have other funds available to live on. I think I can make them last 20 years. But when they're gone I am not going to live in the streets. I will make my own exit plan.

That is exactly what these heartless Republicans want: death of anyone without private sources of money. I cannot begin to tell you how contemptible they are.

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Response to mnhtnbb (Reply #34)

Tue Dec 19, 2017, 08:21 AM

39. I still think SS and Medicare is the third rail and anything they do will be reversed when they are

tossed out of office. If we get the House in less than a year...the party is over for these bastards so fight for Dems i 18 as if your life depended on it...because it does.

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Response to Demtexan (Original post)

Tue Dec 19, 2017, 08:18 AM

38. I understand how you feel but I have a brother who is a Republican whom I love.

I don't know who he voted for because we agree to disagree and not discuss politics. If my brother was in need, I would take him and his wife into my home in a heartbeat. I love my family and do not mix politics with family...just me. I am not criticizing you. It must be very sad for you. My brother would do the same for me regardless of our different politics. Anyway here is hoping things improve because it is sad that Trump has not only damaged this country in ways that will be difficult to fix, he has driven a wedge between families as well.

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Response to Demtexan (Original post)

Tue Dec 19, 2017, 09:44 AM

41. Yup. What I have observed is that Republicans count on richer friends and family members

as their welfare system.

None of that rugged individualism or boot-strap thingy getting in their way.

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Response to Demtexan (Original post)

Tue Dec 19, 2017, 10:35 AM

42. Can't say that I blame you.

I've split with half my family permanently, and they think exactly like your sister and her family does. Mind you, my one uncle received disability after his leg was amputated in a railroad accident, he's collecting a union and Army pension, Social Security, and is on Medicare. My aunt is on Social Security and Medicare as well. His son, my cousin, is an ex-con who's been enrolled in every kind of job training/second chance program there is, and was a deadbeat dad to three girls in their twenties (and one just died last month). Every last one of them voted for Trump because they're tired of "moochers" ó and "moochers" translates as "black."

Some people are just stuck on stupid. And mean.

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Response to Efilroft Sul (Reply #42)

Tue Dec 19, 2017, 01:20 PM

43. Sounds like my sister.

I did try to talk to her but she is all fox news.

She has a mini van.

She is an adult.

My sister is nothing but a racist.


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Response to Demtexan (Original post)

Tue Dec 19, 2017, 01:56 PM

46. I totally get it

I lost a brother due to his voting for Dump. Iíve got nothing to say to him until he apologizes and admits he was wrong. I donít know what happened to him, maybe heís a racist, idk. Itís very upsetting tbh.

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Response to GrapesOfWrath (Reply #46)

Tue Dec 19, 2017, 05:16 PM

47. I understand.

I will not be around racist people.

I was so close to 65.

One more year.

Damn I really pissed off.

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