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LexVegas

(6,130 posts)
Mon May 20, 2024, 02:02 PM May 20

Biden says ICC move on arrest warrants for Israeli leaders "outrageous"

Thank you, Mr. President!

https://www.reuters.com/world/biden-says-icc-move-arrest-warrants-israeli-leaders-outrageous-2024-05-20/

U.S. President Joe Biden on Monday slammed the International Criminal Court prosecutor's application for arrest warrants for senior Israeli officials including Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, calling the move "outrageous".
"And let me be clear: whatever this prosecutor might imply, there is no equivalence - none - between Israel and Hamas. We will always stand with Israel against threats to its security." Biden said in a statement.

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JohnSJ

(92,661 posts)
1. Russia, China, India, United States Israel, Qatar, and others do not recognize the jurisdiction of the ICC and do not
Mon May 20, 2024, 02:13 PM
May 20

belong to the ICC.

The argument is the ICC has no jurisdiction, legitimacy, and authority with its claim of universal jurisdiction over citizens of every country, which violates principles of justice, fairness, and due process.



atreides1

(16,143 posts)
3. That's funny
Mon May 20, 2024, 02:49 PM
May 20

For those countries to accuse the ICC of violating principles of justice, fairness, and due process...

JohnSJ

(92,661 posts)
5. No it isn't funny. The US doesn't belong to the ICC because the view is it violates the US Constitution, interferes
Mon May 20, 2024, 03:02 PM
May 20

a countries sovereignty.

Trials and investigations at the ICC take place behind closed doors, and the public has little access to information about active cases. Due to this lack of openness, the ICC comes under criticism for bias and unfairness which lead to suspicions and mistrust regarding the activity of the institution as a whole.



LeftInTX

(26,115 posts)
12. They're also seeking warrants on Hamas. I don't think the Palestinians are going to arrest them and turn them in.
Mon May 20, 2024, 08:23 PM
May 20

Someone needs to apprehend the "fugitive". It's almost alway local law enforcement. The ICC doesn't just swoop down and start arresting people. In order to be arrested, you need to be in a location where someone will turn you in. The ICC isn't gonna descend on Israel. ICC isn't going to invade Gaza to arrest Hamas fugitives.

JohnSJ

(92,661 posts)
14. Seeing that Qutar doesn't recognize the ICC, and that Qatar gives the Hamas leadership sanctuary, I think you are right
Mon May 20, 2024, 08:37 PM
May 20

Model35mech

(1,710 posts)
6. Is the ICC subject to authorization/ withdrawl of authorization, by the Security Council?
Mon May 20, 2024, 03:22 PM
May 20

the US real power has to do with Security Council Veto. Across my life, the US has invoked that many times on behalf of Israel against majority votes of the General Assembly.

Frankly, I don't see what does Netanyahu have to fear, really?

He's innocent, I am right, aren't I?

Moreover, he has Israeli and international resources that can attempt and undoubtedly succeed in an intervention regarding the arrest warrants.

Cha

(298,833 posts)
13. TY & Pres Biden.
Mon May 20, 2024, 08:31 PM
May 20
"And let me be clear: whatever this prosecutor might imply, there is no equivalence - none - between Israel and Hamas. We will always stand with Israel against threats to its security." Biden said in a statement.
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