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While this is a heartbreaking post I cannot dismiss those in other countries who have died ...

been wounded or displaced, millions of them because as some politicians state 'it was a mistake.'

It is interesting that you state you will never forgive them, do you think they should forgive us?

We just made a mistake?

Should we say their names, we cannot even do so, there are too many too mention.










Posted by slipslidingaway | Thu Jun 23, 2016, 02:09 AM (1 replies)

Can you imagine a 20 year old, poor Jewish man chaining himself to a black person ...

in the 1960's to protest segregation? To be arrested and not willing to give in, I could not have done that, could you?

Those were very different times, it took a certain kind of character to stand up then and through his long career of speaking for the oppressed when it was not popular.

Would you have chained yourself to another person of color in protest, suppose they were of another faith or nationally, would you do that today in support of Muslims? You can easily go to Mosque today and speak out, will you? I admit I am chicken, but will you enter into an unknown world of the oppressed and stand with them as some did in the 1960's for others?

You need to think about that VERY long and hard before a condemning a person and all that he has fought for, one needs to have some very deep and core beliefs of right and wrong to do so .... and then to continue the struggle for decades,.

All people should have rights, instead of fighting a war based upon some notion of skin color, religion or gender.

I am sorry for all the people who have struggled to gain equality, we need to do better, all of us!

But I believe that continuing to point out our differences is not conducive to the equality we seek, on the contrary it hinders our progress.

Hope you agree




Posted by slipslidingaway | Tue Jun 14, 2016, 04:28 AM (1 replies)

Please stop dividing people by race, gender or whatever a narrow mind can possibly contrive ...

to bring about discord while linking to articles that do nothing more than seek to further an agenda of divisiveness.

Sometimes you just have to call them as you seen them!

Obama never promoted his historic win with "History Made" as the first Black nominee or even POTUS and he never fell back on that as excuse, and yes I had my differences with him in regarding to HC, turning a blind eye to war crimes and those on Wall St.

But he NEVER used his race as a reason to support his agenda. Personally and as a woman over 60 Clinton should follow in his footsteps and not play the gender card.

No I do not want a magnet for 10 bucks with her picture and the words "History Made!"

She would do well to follow Obama's footsteps as he did not feel the need to flaunt his race, nor should she flaunt her gender.

Policies and positions are what history will ultimately decide their fate, many, many years after we are gone.











Posted by slipslidingaway | Tue Jun 14, 2016, 02:31 AM (1 replies)

Those over 60, or thereabouts (the young!) have been watching these 'games' unfold for decades

we are always told to vote for a person because the other person is worse, what about the Supreme Court etc. etc.

Well that has not turned out so well for the American people, us boomers complied, in retrospect we may have messed up royally, believing the candidate of the other party would be worse.

When does your continued compliance lead to unintended and unwanted consequences, where and when do you draw the line? Do you ever say enough is enough before you die, or do you just always go along?

What have we gained for most people in the US, some equality here or there, but the middle class as we knew it decades ago has been shrinking. There are those who would point to specific injustices along the way, but ultimately money does buy power.

Money buys access to good schools, meals on the table and that can go a long way. Some say we need to separate racial inequality from economic inequality, I disagree.

We can try and dismiss the economic side, but if you ever have faced a serious illness you will realize that money cannot cure the illness, but it goes a long way in making it easier to cope with the daily/monthly chores.

Money helps to smooth out the injustices felt by people for a myriad of reasons, we can try to fight the injustices of what money can buy, but IMHO we cannot escape the fact that it makes things easier and allows access to certain things ... health, education are two very important reasons to push for economic equality.

At what point in our lives do we acknowledge the fact that 'just going along' is no longer working and we need another path.





Posted by slipslidingaway | Sat Jun 11, 2016, 02:28 AM (3 replies)

"Never settle, my dear sisters. Never settle." Well stated ...

I do not remember Obama playing up his race once he was designated the nominee, if anything he downplayed his race.

But I could get a Hilary magnet with a picture of Hillary and the words "History Made" for a minimum contribution of ten bucks.

I have been very critical of Obama, particularly for his exclusion of advocates for a universal HC system beginning with his first WH summit on HC. Unfortunately if one was critical they were also considered a racist, now we'll just be considered sexist.

Well stated, thx!



Posted by slipslidingaway | Sat Jun 11, 2016, 01:10 AM (0 replies)

My party right or wrong? He concentrated on the issues that should matter to people ...

party labels should not define a person, neither should race, religion or gender.

Yes he might have failed in saying independents needed to be registered Democrats, but more and more people are not identifying with either party.

Do we want their vote and voices or not, the Dems want to push independents away, but come November they would like their vote.

Time and time again here on DU independents have been told to go away, is that something the Dem party should strive for? I would say no, but in a week they will be told to go away, or walk on eggshells.

I think that has been and will continue to be a downfall of our party, just push people away, that will surely attract young, independent voters.




Most people do not want to live in an echo chamber.









Posted by slipslidingaway | Thu Jun 9, 2016, 03:37 AM (3 replies)

Big difference between 2008 and now, there are many younger voters who have signed up

to vote based on issues and they are not all party loyalists, some will be convinced and some will not.

Sanders cannot wave a magic wand and have them comply, they are much more independent, yet he wants to keep them engaged in the political process. We are moving towards a younger generation who will soon become a dominant force, and they come in all races, religions and genders, but the establishment Dems are too blind and have chosen to ignore their concerns.

Strange that it took a man in his 70's to breathe hope into this younger generation and the future of our party.

Even with all their money, power, and maybe a little too much hubris, they fail to recognize a future unfolding before their eyes.

But a large part of Sanders support comes from people who have watched and listened to what he said and Did 20, 30, 40 years ago, his message has been consistent, that is not something that can be bottled up into a nice little package for voters.

His core beliefs have remained constant and not dependent on the prevailing political winds of the moment.



Posted by slipslidingaway | Thu Jun 9, 2016, 03:17 AM (3 replies)

AP’s Premature Call for Clinton Does Disservice to Democracy

http://fair.org/home/action-alert-aps-premature-call-for-clinton-does-disservice-to-democracy/

Just leaving this here for the moment, what a weird call on the eve of the California primary.

"The Associated Press (6/6/16) has unilaterally declared Hillary Clinton to be “the Democratic Party’s presumptive nominee for president,” based on the news agency’s own polling of unelected superdelegates.

Superdelegates—who have a role in the Democratic nominating process based on their institutional positions rather than being chosen by voters—do not vote until the Democratic National Convention, to be held on July 25. They can declare their intention to vote for one candidate or another, just as voters can tell pollsters who they intend to vote for before Election Day, but like voters they can (and do) change their mind at any time before the actual voting. Media do not generally call elections weeks before the actual voting based on voters’ intentions.

The timing of AP’s announcement–on the eve of primaries in California, New Jersey, New Mexico, Montana and South Dakota, and caucuses in North Dakota—raises concerns of voter suppression, intentional or not. The six states choose a total of 806 delegates on June 7, making it the second-biggest day in the Democratic primary calendar (after “Super Tuesday,” March 1, when 865 delegates were at stake)...

...Compounding the damage done by AP’s premature call were other major news outlets that joined the rush to declare the nominating process over. NBC News (6/6/16) came out with “Clinton Hits ‘Magic Number’ of Delegates to Clinch Nomination.” “Hillary Clinton Clinches Democratic Presidential Nomination,” was CNN’s headline (6/6/16); an onscreen graphic reported that “Hillary Clinton Earns Enough Delegates to Win Democratic Nomination,” an odd choice of verb to describe the inclinations of unelected delegates..."


Posted by slipslidingaway | Thu Jun 9, 2016, 12:19 AM (22 replies)

No more donations or time spent on a presidential candidate...

the Dem party chose their candidate from the get go by holding the first debate two and a half months behind the Republicans while the Repubs dominated the news day after day. Many people said it was a mistake at the time.

And the first debate was held after the NY deadline to declare a party, even two of Trump's children missed the deadline to vote for him in NY, and you cannot say that everyone else that missed the deadline were just too stupid and should have known better! Why do you need over 5 months to register for a party and vote in NY? Not to mention all those in NY who were dropped from the voting records!

I will not celebrate 'a victory' that disenfranchises millions of people and a nominee that has several active investigations, the outcome of which, we still do not know.

As was said at the time last year when the Dems took a back seat to the Repubs, if they win, we have only to look at the party leaders who sat on their hands thinking Clinton was going to glide into victory without too much trouble. But the Dems failed to read the state of the people in our nation, the young are saddled with outrageous student debt and the old are experiencing escalating costs with a flatling income. The middle class is shrinking and nobody in our party seems to notice the long term detrimental effects it will have.

Will I be celebrating regime change in another country without having the foresight as to the deadly consequences of their people and how it might affect other countries and our national security?

We need a leader who does not just say I made a mistake time and time again, apologies are nice, but if you lack the proper judgement at crucial moments in history then we need someone else. This is not a popularity contest, too many lives are at stake.



Posted by slipslidingaway | Sun May 29, 2016, 02:40 AM (0 replies)

Sweet Jane

Happy Anniversary to Jane and Bernie!





Posted by slipslidingaway | Sun May 29, 2016, 12:06 AM (36 replies)
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