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He was not really welcomed by the party, they never thought he would garner the support ...

he did, so they let him run on the ticket.

They never imagined he would garner the support he has, few were willing to take on the Clinton machine.

You say he is damaging the party, but 45% of the electorate agree with his views, not too shabby in elections that block almost a third of citizens who declare themselves as independents and cannot vote in certain states.

Some seem to think elections are about parties, the my team vs. your team, others are more concerned with the outcome of the majority of citizens. If the majority of citizens do not do well we lose our nation, it is a rather simple fact. We cannot survive as a nation when people are suffering and marginalized and I could honestly care less which team gets to fly their flag.

Can we just have a people flag? Both parties try and use the masses as pawns, maybe we can acknowledge that fact and speak of issues instead.

Sanders gave a great speech at Liberty University, he knew he was in unfriendly territory, but that is where you sometimes need to tread.

In case you have not noticed many people now consider themselves independents or unaffiliated, would you dismiss them or try to sway them to your point of view?

Posted by slipslidingaway | Fri May 20, 2016, 05:04 AM (0 replies)

DNC and DWS scheduled the first Dem debate months after the Repubs and after the NY deadline

to change party affiliation.

O'Malley and Sanders both objected in the summer of 2015 when the schedule was announced, Clinton never objected at the time. I know that I said at the time that the Dem party was handing the election over to the Repbs and I know I was not alone.

Yes we said that months ago! Do not try and blame the Sanders people, the Dems played a dangerous game by promoting Clinton and many said so at the time!

"Now the Sanders people have gone further and are deliberately stoking anger and a sense of grievance -- less against Clinton than the party itself. This is reckless in the extreme, and it could put Trump in the White House."

Agree the Dems have been reckless from the get go, just as they were pretending about HC back in 2007, and making back room deals with the insurance and pharmaceutical companies. Can we wake up please and not be guided by the corporate media!

What the Dem party does not seem to understand is that independents now make up a large portion of the electorate. The younger generation and some of the older generation cannot be brought to heel as quickly as they once were.

Van Jones astutely pointed out the difference between 2008 and today, the rebels were winning and backing Obama in 2008, they are now backing Sanders and will not conform as easily.

Posted by slipslidingaway | Fri May 20, 2016, 02:48 AM (0 replies)

Just as the Clinton camp said nothing DIRECTLY about the 'disqualify him, defeat him' campaign they

will let the corporate media do the work, they sit back and say 'we never said that.'

But they do not come out and denounce the lies that are being told by the media as they are beneficial to their campaign and maybe the campaign has suggested/planted ideas as Jeff Zeleny reported.

Funny thing, nobody ever went back to Jeff Zeleny, a senior political analyst at CNN, and asked him who in the Clinton campaign told him of this new Clinton campaign strategy, and now he is covering the Sanders campaign?

Who is this Clinton aide that gave Jeff the "breaking news" which the media picked up and said Clinton wants to disqualify Sanders to which he responded?

Either someone is feeding false info to the corporate media and trying to make their opponent look bad or reporters are making stuff up.

But if reporters are making false accusations the Clinton campaign has done nothing to stop it, then I must ask where is their integrity? The disqualify, defeat strategy was such a blatant example and Clinton did nothing!

So yes I will agree that the Clinton campaign said nothing about this particular instance, they just let it all play out and hope that people do not notice the deception, just as they did with the disqualify, defeat campaign.

And she wants my vote?

Posted by slipslidingaway | Thu May 19, 2016, 11:43 PM (1 replies)

The Dem party has been pushing out independents and left leaning Dems for years ...

this year the DNC decided to hold the first debate after the NY deadline for independents to register with a party. Even two of Trump's children missed the deadline, imagine the millions of independents who were not paying attention 6 months prior to the primary?

And why the hell does the US have elections that drag on for years that cost hundreds of millions of dollars and leave millions of children going to bed hungry?

There is no reason, there is no excuse except for those who think power trumps the need of a child to feel satiated before going to sleep at night ... and then the next night ....

Not to mention quashing their dreams to obtain higher skills and live a productive and satisfying life.

This is not the path to a successful nation, it is the path to a nation in decline.

Posted by slipslidingaway | Mon May 16, 2016, 12:47 AM (0 replies)

Regarding the "18 trillion in debt" attack on Sanders' proposals ...

repeating so I can find all your great links later!

Thank you!

Posted by slipslidingaway | Wed May 11, 2016, 01:52 AM (0 replies)

knr Harper's Clintons’ charitable enterprise bookmarked nt

Posted by slipslidingaway | Fri Apr 8, 2016, 10:37 PM (0 replies)

Sanders proposed the 4/14 date at the end of January, it still had not been accepted ...

at the end of March.

When exactly did she accept that date?

The first mention I saw was After the Sanders campaign published a letter on March 27 trying to get the Clinton campaign to lock in a date for the April debate.

"He suggested the April 14th date way back, but as soon as Hillary agreed with him... sorry, no deal, previous engagement!"

Did the Clinton campaign expect the Sanders campaign to hold that date open for months while trying to schedule other events?


Sanders Campaign Statement on Debates
January 30, 2016
Email Link

DES MOINES, Iowa – Bernie Sanders’ campaign manager, Jeff Weaver, issued the following statement Saturday on negotiations over additional debates:

“After refusing for months to participate in more debates, Secretary Clinton requested that the Democratic National Committee rules be changed and that a new debate take place in New Hampshire next week. We agreed pending an agreement on three future debates in March, April and May. Unfortunately, the Clinton campaign has not accepted debates we proposed on March 3 in Michigan and April 14 in New York. They apparently agreed to May 24 in California. The Clinton campaign, after not accepting Michigan, now says they want it. We are pleased to do it on March 3 before the Michigan primary provided the Clinton campaign will agree to Brooklyn, New York, on April 14. Why won’t they debate in Brooklyn? What’s the matter with Brooklyn?”


Sanders Challenges Clinton to Debate in New York
March 27, 2016

"BURLINGTON, Vt. – U.S. Sen. Bernie Sanders on Sunday challenged Hillary Clinton to debate him in New York before the state’s April 19 primary election.

“I would hope very much that as we go into New York state, Secretary Clinton’s home state, that we will have a debate – New York City or Upstate, wherever – on the important issues facing New York and, in fact, the country,” Sanders told Chuck Todd in an interview on NBC’s “Meet the Press.”

Fresh off sweeping victories on Saturday in Washington, Alaska and Hawaii, Sanders was looking ahead to upcoming primaries in Wisconsin and New York.

He told The Associated Press it was “really absurd” that Clinton so far has refused to agree to a debate with him in her home state.

Jeff Weaver, Sanders’ campaign manager, wrote a letter on Sunday to Clinton’s campaign manager, Robby Mook, underscoring the senator’s call for a New York debate.

“New York will play a critical role in determining the Democratic nominee. However, your campaign has consistently chosen to deny the people of New York the opportunity to see Senator Sanders and Secretary Clinton debate in the Empire State,” Weaver wrote to Mook............"

Posted by slipslidingaway | Tue Apr 5, 2016, 05:32 PM (0 replies)

Thank you and bookmarking :) - Hillary's Email Scandal for Non-Techy People nt

Posted by slipslidingaway | Mon Apr 4, 2016, 11:33 PM (0 replies)

Can he do a major rally in Manhattan and debate on the same night? Can Clinton hold a fundraiser and

debate at the same time?

Posted by slipslidingaway | Mon Apr 4, 2016, 12:22 AM (0 replies)

Seriously why bring up gender, must have been an email from Clinton campaign today ...

"What's made for History:

A limited edition collection from fashion's biggest names, designed to help elect the first the first woman president of the United States and Democrats from coast to coast."

Vote for me, I am woman!!!

Posted by slipslidingaway | Sun Apr 3, 2016, 11:40 PM (0 replies)
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