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What is the job of the DNC?

I read on FB someone who was saying that the DNC support of Hillary is illegal and there should be charges filed. That doesn't sound right to me. I thought the committees were essentially clubs that we join to support our political candidates from. They can pretty much do what they want, can't they? Isn't that what the whole super delegate thing is? The way they can make sure their guy gets in no matter what we do?

So, i started actively supporting Hillary and...

I swear, I get more push back from Dems than I do from Republicans.

I am sorry, I know there is a wealth of information here and I could find what I need to know with some research. I tried google, but I am not finding why DEMS keep calling her corrupt. I got all the Whitewater/Benghazi/email BS, but only from hard right sites. And most of that is just crap. That shouldn't affect Dems, right?

Can somebody please give me a brief primer on why Dems would say Hillary is corrrupt and do it without snark? I am trying to defend my choices to friends who seem to feel adamantly, though vaguely, that she is just icky. Which is weird to me, cause I didn't think there was anything ickier than Donald Trump.

I am really not trying to start a war here. I am basically a farmer who gets up at 6 am and works their ass off all day. I am already 20 minutes past my bedtime and exhausted and just trying to figure this all out.

I am going to start actively supporting Hillary.

She was not my first choice. She was not even my second choice. I am not a Hillary Hater, I just couldn't get excited about her. My main issue is inequality and I felt other people spoke to that more eloquently than she.

But there are worse things than Hillary Clinton and the GOP is nominating one of them.

So I am moving on and going to actively support Hillary. I can't throw my vote away this year in a grand gesture. I would ask anyone thinking of doing so to really consider the consequences. A Hillary Presidency may not suit your political aesthetic; a Donald Presidency would likely be an unmitigated disaster for all of us.

My Open Letter to Trump Supporters.....that lost me a few friends

So, folks, here's the deal: You can support Donald Trump. This is America and you can support any sociopathic, lying, hate filled, violent misogynist that tickles your fancy. But you have to stop considering yourself honorable or decent. Cause this is life and you don't get to have it both ways. You can fool yourself into thinking you can...but you can't. Supporting Donald Trump is a choice. And by our choices we reveal ourselves to the world. Again, tell yourself you are being pragmatic. Tell yourself you are succumbing to the inevitable. Tell YOURSELF whatever you need to get through the day. But do not think you are fooling anyone but you.
No one will ever forget this. No one will ever forget that you aligned yourself with THAT. Because this is life and people will pretend to ignore your choices, but they don't and they don't forget.
So, vote for Trump. Tell yourself it is because he is...Good God, I have nothing for that. I have nothing for how someone supports a person who encourages the general public to punch people in the face. Who stands for LITERALLY nothing but hate. Who puts forth ZERO agenda other than "I'm GREAT!!" That supports going outside the law to achieve his agenda...yet who has not even given a single concrete indication of what his agenda actually is. You are going to have to go through the mental gymnastics that allow you to reconcile supporting that vile piece of shit with your vision of yourself as a decent human being on your own. I am simply not quite that agile.
Tell yourself whatever you have to. But stop telling the rest of us anything about nobility of spirit or honor or decency. Cause you just lost the right to that stuff. And that is the important stuff. That is the stuff that will still be here long after your pragmatic choice is a horrific side note in a history book.
And for Godís sake (literally), stop telling me you are a Christian. I have studied the Bible from cover to cover and Donald Trump is not a candidate for Jesus. Find me ONE verse in the Bible attributed to Jesus that even gets you in the ballpark of supporting Donald Trump and I will listen. But I sure couldnít find one. Leviticus, maybe. New Testament...no. (BTW, I have always found it interesting that the faith is CHRISTianity, but the followers always fall back on the Old Testament to justify their bigotry and hatred. I would think that if you are genuinely a person of faith, your beliefs would stem from the New Testament and the Old Testament would be used for context...but what do I know. Oh, and NO, kicking the money changers and sellers of sacrificial animals out of the temple does not count. Yes, Jesus got angry. No, it is not anything like Donald Trump being angry.)
And if you support Donald Trump because you are angry that your party did not get their way for the last eight years...grow up. Children destroy things because they did not get their way. Destroying America with Donald Trump because you are pissed about Obama is what toddlers in day care do when they would rather break the toy than share it. Stop telling me you love America if any of THAT figures into your....reasoning.

Let your anger guide you. Let your hate guide you. Let your inability to stand for what you truly believe in guide you. Fine. If the will of the people is hatred and ugliness, so be it. But that is not my will and never will be. I do not choose to be two people. I choose to be honorable. I will vote my conscience and you vote your anger and pragmatism.
But stop telling me that you are a decent human being. And stop telling me what a great Christian you are. Going to church does not make you a Christian any more than standing in a garage will make me a mechanic. It is by your ACTIONS that you are known as a Christian. So, act like one.

Help me understand...WTF is happening?

I haven't been around here for the last couple of years because arguing about politics on top of some other pretty big life changes just got to be a little much.

But I am seriously starting to freak out. I have some conservative friends that two months ago told me Donald Trump was a bad joke who are now supporting him. They have apparently done some fairly impressive mental gymnastics and now he is ok. He is fiery and gosh, their party needed that!

This fucking crazy. How is this happening?

When ideals collide... porn vs. feminism

I have found the entire porn debate that has been going on lately fascinating on several levels. It has got me wondering about how we all rank our progressive ideals differently. For some, First Amendment rights are paramount. Anything that smacks of limiting free speech is anathema. For others, the welfare of women is their primary focus and anything that objectifies women is the worst thing. Then there are those who just want to enjoy their porn without pondering it's political ramifications.

Here's what I wonder....Can there be a Progressive Theory of Everything where ALL the tenets important to a progressive agenda work cohesively? Or do we always have to triage our interests and place our concerns in the order they speak to us most? Can Free Speech (I don't know why I always feel compelled to capitalize 'Free Speech', but I do) live side by side with a concern for the objectification and minimizing of women?

It seems like each side of this issue is defending their position based on important progressive ideals. But what is the MOST important progressive ideal? What comes first? For me, it is along the lines of 'do no harm'. Free speech? Damn straight. As long as it doesn't potentially harm someone else.

P.S. I recognize that feminism and pornography are not mutually exclusive. I was trying in my title to succinctly represent the two sides I see being discussed the most.

My husband wonders why I don't like watching football with him

Could it be that listening to him scream at the TV for three solid hours is not as much fun as he might think?

If the constant bombardment of ACA negativity is taking its toll on ME

...somebody who is a liberal and who desperately wants affordable health insurance coverage, what do we think it is doing to the average person? Hardly anybody I know in person has an even remotely positive view of this thing. At first I kept telling myself that the site would get fixed, people would start to benefit and everybody would chill out. But now, every day right here I see stories that make me think that it isn't going to work, it is going to be a giant clusterfuck and it is going to drag our previously bright chances for 2014 and 2016 into a hole with it.

Can somebody talk me off my ledge? Is there a silver lining here?? I think the main thing that is worrying me now are some of the comments about ACA plans paying doctors less, so fewer doctors will bother being in these networks. People are going to be PISSED if they cannot keep their doctor or have a very hard time finding doctors to take their ACA approved insurance plans.

What future does America have?

I have never been one of those people who think the country is going to hell in a handbasket and wails about 'the fall of Rome' blah blah blah.

Until now.

As mentioned in another thread, the ACA is possibly in deep trouble. Republicans are poised to begin picking it apart until nothing worth having is left. If public support remains low, Dems are going to start joining in to save their seats.

That sucks for healthcare reform, but has much, much more dire implications. How does this country govern itself with a system as broken as this? How do we move forward when the opposition party is so damned determined to go BACKWARDS as far as it can and, whether we want to admit it or not, uses the system brilliantly against progress?

I have always told my children that progressiveness would win in the end because social progress is the only way for a civilized society to survive. But I reckoned without an entire political party led by a ruling class that doesn't mind the country failing.

That's the other thing I am starting to believe in: A ruling class.

The Progressive Abortion Purity Test

I would like to apologize for my 'Yea, Abortion!!' thread that got pulled. It actually wasn't intended to be flamebait, I was trying to make a point; but it was poorly made and I understand why it was pulled.

That said, as a woman who has had an abortion and who has known other women who have had abortions, every single one of us came out of the experience with slightly differing emotions....or vastly differing emotions. I wish I had not had to have mine. I DO sometimes think about the child who might have been. What would they be like? Did I do the right thing? But what about the two kids I have now? Would that child have precluded their existence? I cannot go back and it's not like it is something I dwell on. Actually, the only time I think about it is when somebody on here brings abortion up.

Wendy Davis made a comment to the effect that she wished there was never a need for abortion. I understand that. I agree. I can't help it. It's how I feel. I understand that other people feel differently. So, which of us is RIGHT?? Well, there seem to be a lot of people here who think that they are equipped to make that judgment. If you are one of those people, you are wrong. No two people are going to feel the same and as long as they support the right to choose, they are progressive enough.

I strongly support the right to choose. I will fight tooth and nail to preserve this right for all women. This is a decision between a woman and herself. The end. ONLY the woman involved can understand what the choice means to her and whether it is the right choice for her. There should be no stigma attached to having made this choice. I am not ashamed of my abortion and in no way do I think other women should be ashamed.

But I have to say, I found myself sitting here crying when I was reading some of the responses to the Wendy Davis thread. While I am not ashamed of my decision, it was not easy. i think it was probably the right choice. I was not equipped at 19 to be a mother either emotionally or financially. Maybe if I had never had children, I wouldn't think about it. I don't know.

I feel like there are people here for whom it is not enough to just support the right to choose. They land on every thread about abortion letting us all know that abortion is no biggie...a positive choice...and making those of us who think differently feel as if we are not quite good enough progressives.

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