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It's a huge concern. AFAIK, the strongest votiung block in the Democratic Party are black females.

Please correct me if I'm wrong.

The disrespect shown to AA posters is simply wrong.

A Democrat who is knowledgeable on everything that is going on.

Why dismiss her?

BTW. Obama's 2012 DNC music by Tom Petty:

Petty said he stopped the GOP from using his songs, but thrilled at seeing Obama walk onstage as his song played.

Sanders is not a purist. He is a follower of 'cuddly capitalism' as described here:

The Nordic model (or Nordic capitalism or Nordic social democracy) refers to the economic and social models of the Nordic countries (Denmark, Finland, Norway, Iceland, Greenland, Faroe Islands and Sweden), which involves the combination of a free market economy with a welfare state.

Although there are significant differences among the Nordic countries, they all share some common traits. These include support for a "universalist" welfare state (relative to other developed countries) which is aimed specifically at enhancing individual autonomy, promoting social mobility and ensuring the universal provision of basic human rights, as well as for stabilizing the economy, alongside a commitment to free trade. The Nordic model is distinguished from other types of welfare states by its emphasis on maximizing labor force participation, promoting gender equality, egalitarian and extensive benefit levels, the large magnitude of income redistribution, and liberal use of expansionary fiscal policy.

The Nordic model is described as a system of competitive capitalism combined with a large public sector (roughly 30% of the work force). In 2013, The Economist described its countries as "stout free-traders who resist the temptation to intervene even to protect iconic companies" while also looking for ways to temper capitalism’s harsher effects, and declared that the Nordic countries "are probably the best-governed in the world." The Nordic combination of extensive public provision of welfare and a culture of individualism has been described by Lars Trägårdh, of Ersta Sköndal University College, as "statist individualism." Some economists have referred to the Nordic economic model as a form of "cuddly" capitalism, with low levels of inequality, generous welfare states and reduced concentration of top incomes, and contrast it with the more "cut-throat" capitalism of the United States, which has high levels of inequality and a larger concentration of top incomes.

The Nordic model, however, is not a single identical set of policies and rules in every country; each of the Nordic countries has its own economic and social models, sometimes with large differences from its neighbors. While Sweden's neoliberal reforms have reduced the role of the public sector over the last decades, and saw the fastest growth in inequality of any OECD economy, Sweden's income inequality still remains lower than most other countries'.

"The Nordic Model - Embracing globalization and sharing risks" characterizes the system as follows:

* An elaborate social safety net in addition to public services such as free education and universal healthcare.
* Strong property rights, contract enforcement, and overall ease of doing business.
* Public pension plans.
* Low barriers to free trade. This is combined with collective risk sharing (social programs, labour market institutions) which has provided a form of protection against the risks associated with economic openness.
* Little product market regulation. Nordic countries rank very high in product market freedom according to OECD rankings.
* Low levels of corruption. In Transparency International's 2014 Corruption Perceptions Index all five Nordic countries were ranked among the 12 least corrupt of 176 evaluated countries, and Denmark, Finland, Sweden and Norway all ranked within top 5.
* High percentage of workers belonging to a labour union. In 2010, labour union density was 69.9% in Finland, 68.3% in Sweden, and 54.8% in Norway. In comparison, labour union density was 12.9% in Mexico and 11.3% in the United States. The lower union density in Norway is mainly explained by the absence of a Ghent system since 1938. In contrast, Denmark, Finland and Sweden all have union-run unemployment funds.
* A partnership between employers, trade unions and the government, whereby these social partners negotiate the terms to regulating the workplace among themselves, rather than the terms being imposed by law. Sweden has decentralised wage co-ordination, while Finland is ranked the least flexible. The changing economic conditions have given rise to fear among workers as well as resistance by trade unions in regards to reforms. At the same time, reforms and favourable economic development seem to have reduced unemployment, which has traditionally been higher. Denmark's Social Democrats managed to push through reforms in 1994 and 1996 (see flexicurity).
* Sweden at 56.6% of GDP, Denmark at 51.7%, and Finland at 48.6% reflects very high public spending. One key reason for public spending is the large number of public employees. These employees work in various fields including education, healthcare, and for the government itself. They often have lifelong job security and make up around a third of the workforce (more than 38% in Denmark). Public spending in social transfers such as unemployment benefits and early-retirement programmes is high. In 2001, the wage-based unemployment benefits were around 90% of wage in Denmark and 80% in Sweden, compared to 75% in the Netherlands and 60% in Germany. The unemployed were also able to receive benefits several years before reductions, compared to quick benefit reduction in other countries.
* Public expenditure for health and education is significantly higher in Denmark, Sweden, and Norway in comparison to the OECD average.
* Overall tax burdens (as a percentage of GDP) are among the world's highest; Sweden (51.1%), Denmark (46% in 2011), and Finland (43.3%), compared to non-Nordic countries like Germany (34.7%), Canada (33.5%), and Ireland (30.5%).
* The United Nations World Happiness Report 2013 shows that the happiest nations are concentrated in Northern Europe. The Nordics ranked highest on the metrics of real GDP per capita, healthy life expectancy, having someone to count on, perceived freedom to make life choices, generosity and freedom from corruption.
* The Nordic countries received the highest ranking for protecting workers rights on the International Trade Union Confederation's 2014 Global Rights Index, with Denmark being the only nation to receive a perfect score.

The Nordic welfare model refers to the welfare policies of the Nordic countries, which also tie into their labor market policies.

While there are differences among different Nordic countries, they all share a broad commitment to social cohesion, a universal nature of welfare provision in order to safeguard individualism by providing protection for vulnerable individuals and groups in society, and maximizing public participation in social decision-making. It is characterized by flexibility and openness to innovation in the provision of welfare. The Nordic welfare systems are mainly funded through taxation.

Despite the common values, the Nordic countries take different approaches to the practical administration of the welfare state. Denmark features a high degree of private sector provision of public services and welfare, alongside an assimilation immigration policy. Iceland's welfare model is based on a "welfare-to-work" (see: workfare) model, while part of Finland's welfare state includes the voluntary sector playing a significant role in providing care for the elderly. Norway relies most extensively on public provision of welfare...

Jerry Mander has likened the Nordic model to a kind of "hybrid" economics which features a blend of capitalist and socialist visions. According to sociologist Lane Kenworthy, in the context of the Nordic model, "social democracy" refers to a set of policies intended to improve capitalism as opposed to a system to replace capitalism. Kenworthy advocates for the U.S. to make a gradual transition to an economic system similar to those of the Nordic countries. United States Senator Bernie Sanders (I-VT), a self-described democratic socialist, has been a strong proponent of the Nordic system. Nobel Prize-winning economist Joseph Stiglitz has noted that there is higher social mobility in the Scandinavian countries than in the United States, and argues that Scandinavia is now the land of opportunity that the United States once was.

According to Naomi Klein, former Soviet leader Mikhail Gorbachev sought to move the USSR in a similar direction to the Nordic system, combining free markets with a social safety net — but still retaining public ownership of key sectors — ingredients that he believed would transform the USSR into "a socialist beacon for all mankind."


I don't think Gorbachev worked as It appears Russia is in the hands of an oligarchy which seems to be the default course when governments collapse.

Of the five Nordic countries, Norway, Denmark and Iceland are NATO members. Sweden and Finland are not. Bernie mentioned NATO in his support for the F-35 and production of drones in VT, which he says are important for fighting ISIS.

He's a conventional politican, and it's apparent the socialists do have a bone to pick with him. But they have little success in the USA in getting what they want.

The World Socialist Web Site hates Bernie, with several articles calling him anti-union/ worker, anti-immigrant, a fake socialist and imperialist. They also don't like his strong support for military aid to Israel in light of the plight of Gazans which they have termed racist.

I don't agree with what they say, but then I'm a Democrat and they'd say the same about us.

You can't please everybody!

OMG, Bobbie Jo, I had not seen this:


The white guy putting his hands on the shoulders of the girl at the swimming pool in north Texas was said to be part of the racist response. Why is this guy getting in her personal space?

When we meet in my district with fellow Democrats, no one would dare to do such a thing. To anyone, even a disruptor, as we have LaRourchies come in from time to time to raise hell.

I didn't wanna do it. The devil made me do it. (VIDEO):

Okay, here goes. I think these are safe:

Obama eating a meatball sub. Better than those GOP ralphing down those whatevers at fairs.

My standard meatloaf:

This is not measured. Cooks know what to do with portions.

Ground beef (and pork, too?)
Diced yellow onions
Sliced green zucchini
Diced tomatoes
Green chilis or ROTEL chilis
Bread enough to hold together
Egg or two
Lots of garlic powder
Fresh or dried parsley
Tomato sauce or pasta*
Lawry's Seasoned Pepper

Mix it together and put in an oiled pan, be sure to use a cookie sheet covered with foil if it boils over. *Can cover the loaf with ketchup if you don't want to use tomato sauce or paste. Cook til done.

Or make hamburgers that can be frozen and fried or grilled later. They will be messy, so expect it. Cook until they are done.

P.S. I don't put salt in my food and even use unsalted butter.

Another one that can be made, but I usually make meatballs, thus the name:

Siclian Meatballs

2 pounds lean ground natural beef
1 pound french sourdough bread torn into pieces
8 ounces of dry grated parmesan cheese
20 cloves of fresh minced garlic
2 cups of water to disintegrate bread
1 cup fresh chopped parsley
4 cups of olive oil

Separate ground meat in a large bowl with your fingers or utensil.

In another bowl, shred the bread with your hands. Add water and squeeze to disintegrate. Mince garlic and chop parsley. When the bread disintegrates, mix into ground beef.

Add parsley and garlic and blend very well. Then add parmesan, which will absorb the water and blend very well.

Heat the oil and carefully spoon in meatballs. Use a screen while frying. It usually doesn't splatter because the water is absorbed, but it will bubble. Observe so they don't burn, cooking to a golden brown.

Lift out with skimming spoon to keep oil in the frying pan. Place on paper towels to absorb oil.

Do not simmer in sauce. Serve warm with meal, as a snack or freeze. I serve it with thin spaghetti, marinara sauce, sautéed onions and mushrooms, peas or spinach.

(That's it. Hope you won't find these too awful for your taste.)

Portabello mushrooms can be used to substitute for meat, but would not work with these.

Okay, I just re-read the link to see if I missed something big. I did:

On Wednesday, the PKK claimed responsibility for the killing of two Turkish police officers near the Kurdish majority city of Sanliurfa, near the Syrian border.

Perhaps that's why the truce is over. It seems to have come out a bombing in Turkey by ISIS (?) that the Kurds blamed Turkey for, as they've been lax with allowing ISIS to cross their land before.

One of the things that spurred the USA to get involved with Syria was Turkey's complaintss that the civil war there, which by all measures is the fault of the Assad dynasty, was firing shells into Turkey and killing people.

Supposedly by accident. Those shells have going all over the place. But Turkey and nations next to Syria have been flooded with refugees from Iraq and Syria. The outpouring of refugees escaping ISIS has impacted so many countries, such as Greece, the African nations, etc.

It is a human and ecological holocaust that we will not see the end of in generations, IMO. Part of the reason Obama did not want to get drawn back into Iraq and to avoid the Syrian disaster was that there are so many who have been displaced by the war in Iraq, and more warfare will only displace more. I posted this a while back on a thread about the number of casualities in Iraq:

‘Apocalyptic’ Isis beyond anything we've seen, say US defence chiefs.

By Spencer Ackerman - 22 August 2014

...(General) Dempsey, an Iraq veteran, has long been sceptical of US military involvement in the Syrian conflict, citing among other reasons the threat to US pilots from dictator Bashar al-Assad’s air defences.
He has frustrated those who advocated American involvement in the two neighbouring wars, such as hawkish Republican senator John McCain, who in June called on Obama to fire Dempsey, saying he “has done nothing but invent ways for us not to be engaged.”

Echoing the White House’s stated position, Dempsey said the US needed “a coalition in the region that takes on the task of defeating Isis over time,” something the administration this week has put effort into broadening and strengthening. But the group’s ultimate defeat, the general said, would only come “when it is rejected by the over 20 million disenfranchised Sunnis that happen to reside between Damascus and Baghdad.”


This is no longer just about Iraq. Since Damascus is in Syria, all the way to the Mediterranean and the doorstep to Europe. Many centuries of warfare between the empires, of which the caliphate is planned to be one. And Baghdad is set near the sea on the other end of that stretch of land on the eastern side.

Those 20 million don't all support the Daesh, but that is a huge number and it's not like these people are unable to figure out how to fight to survive. Obama warned Maliki that excluding them them from his government (in revenge for Saddam's oppression of the Shia, I guess) would cause Iraq to break into pieces. So he couldn't fully support Maliki because he didn't govern with inclusion, which would be the only way to have peace.

The result of those fleeing Iraq and impacting other nations created a diasphoria for the new century. The Iraq War was a TEOTWAWKI event and shattered lives and allegiances. The Middle East will be transformed into different nations, because the original fuel for the Daesh is the need of those refugees for a homeland.

Imagine for a moment, an army of 20 million armed and angry and possibly homeless in the USA on the move. Just picture the bloody carnage in the neighboring states in a desperate fight for living space.

The Kurds were accused of being extrene in the past. They managed through the overthrow of Saddam to possess an autonomous region in northern Iraq. The legacy of Bush will hang over us for a generation or more and change the entire world as we know it, too. JMHO.

How come?

M$M created the Tea Party, they are an astroturf group funded by the Koch brothers as people were ashamed of being GOP!

Their owners, all 5 or 6 of them, want the Koch agenda enacted, and they were created to stymie Obama's plans, discredit him, make him 'fail,' and to stop the sunsetting of the Bush tax cuts.

No matter how loathesome or criminal their candidates were in 2010, they pushed GOP voters to think they'd been absolved of their crimes by re-branding. They are a brand and nothing else.

This woman and government hating murderer, oh, meh! They're for that too.

The suppression of women world wide is the tool of empire. Not just here, but by ISIS itself. But the media does a shell game to point the finger at them. They are what the fundies plan for us, and the media is desensitizing us all kinds of horrors.

But then they always have.

The 'GOP war on women' and what is enacted by ISIS is never seriously looked at. Nor is the oppression of women in other nations and sex slave addressed. Much less racism,. the push more racist memes than the KKK, and are more insidous.

Because those are crimes that will never be spoken of seriously by the paid shills of media owners. They will not allow the reasons behind this are happening to get out and make people think. They don't care about oppression, if the money keeps on rolling in.

The shooter was neither a POC or an unpopular religion. That is, he is white and presumed a Christian. So the media's 'War on Christianity' is a sham, when they refuse to admit the war on black Christians in Charleston and since then. Where are the cries of oppression?


Eff the lying media that edits the words of Obama, talks over him and lies about him! He noticed. Check as the media laughter dies down:

Thought you needed a laugh. The only better part was Luthor the Anger Translator. And last year when he called Fox a shadowy Koch front group and had his staff removed the word News from their name placard. They had hissy fit over it the next day on the air.

Hey. JAG, about this and O'Malley:

The narrative pushed by the OP, et al, is falling apart quickly:

UPDATE: Clinton NOT under "criminal investigation" for emails

@JohnJHarwood: Justice Dept official says "referral" related to Hillary Clinton's email is NOT for a criminal investigation - contradicting earlier reports


New York Times Adds A 64-Word Correction To Its Clinton Email Story

Correction: July 24, 2015

An earlier version of this article and an earlier headline, ​using information from senior government officials, misstated the nature of the referral to the Justice Department regarding Hillary Clinton’s personal email account while she was secretary of state. The referral addressed the potential compromise of classified information in connection with that personal email account. It did not specifically request an investigation into Mrs. Clinton.



DOJ: No, We Weren't Asked To Launch A Criminal Probe Into Clinton's Emails



The Evil Clinton drooling should be over by now, but it's been hardwired since Rush began it back in the 1990s to give Newt that Republican majority. Yes, I remember all of that. Wait, let me offer them a virtual hanky to wipe it off their chin... See, much better. I might even take them seriously now... NOT.

As far as O'Malley, I think he handled it all very well. After his gaffe, he kept on listening. He didn't lose his cool at BLM, he was taking in a new reality, not hiding from it all. And he seems to have his principles down and not running from them. I can see and hear a bit of the hope and faith of Obama in him, and that is heartening to me. Still, he's not beating the lecturn with a shoe, and that appears to be all that satisfies some people. I am a little surprised O'Malley's not doing well in the polls. And if he calls Clinton out, fine by me. But this other stuff... Not buying it.

If learning is called hating white people, sorry to say, they're just hating themselves. Getting along with others is Survival 101. The white people doing this kind of talk are shooting themselves, and the aware white people in the foot. Heck, they may kneecap of the white people if they keep on hanging onto that.

BLM is merely reporting a 'crime in process' that needs some very hard action. The only thing I think makes it hard for O'Malley or Clinton, is they speak in terms of experience in getting things done, which is harder not to let infuse one's dialogue.

I'm going to let what bravenak posted show the urgency of the crime in process, from BLM:

252. Maybe delete and apologize for your 'race nagging' comment. We are dying and in jail.

It is not nagging. We are fighting for our lives and our childrens lives. How is that nagging? It is a demand to be treated fairly and equally and to be seen. Look at me. Notice my race. It affect me everyday. Why not just join our call and not feel nagged, but instead feel called to action?

Black Lives Matter:


To that you say: Race naggers!!! I think that was a terribly unfeeling and mean response. It saddens me.


Format edited by me. Probably the most poweful call to action for 'progressives' and 'liberals' I have ever seen. That is what the Democratic Party is supposed to be about, not what is going on here. Anti-Democratic Party?

And no, HRC isn't going to jail!

The neverending drama of DU:

Note the hand of the cool guy just pushing the shark away!

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