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My god. The Clintons leverage their fame to do good in the world. They break no laws

but yet the GOP find a way to create a social panic about the Clinton Foundation. Creeps. Even CNN is panicking. Calm down. This is a double standard. Breath deep. Ask about the double standard. Remind republicans that after 9/11 Kenneth Starr came had in hand and apologized for his investigation into Whitewater. Obviously Republicans were begging democrats to not do what they did and appoint a special prosecutor on the 9/11 attacks. Now there is a story to ad some balance.

The Trump speech tonight was a Gish Gallop. The way to refute it is to go line

by line, refuting lies, putting other things in the context of what the GOP record is on it, give the actual history and/or define the need better, or adding Hillary plans for the same item vs the expected outcome of the Trump policy. Line by line by line. Hillary should do that every time he gives a speech like this. You have to go after every item. This is like being chansed by bees, you must get every single one of those suckers, lest a few end up crawling around inside your clothes and get you. If Hillary shares her truths to his Gallop, she can build up her entire vision: like chrystals that grow around Trump's lies and fabrications, soon enveloping them, connecting ideas with each other and then taking over. She could structure her speeches in that way. It would be a brain-storming and creative way to handle a gish Gallop. I did it with a nasty GOP gish galloper on bill maher's discussion forum in late 2004 or early 2005. The GOPer had destroyed the spirit of many. I nailed him sentence for sentence. It went on for days. Where he was right on the facts i looked at the context and discouvered much about the world he was missing with his narrow view of human beings and his narrow view of what the world could be. He left the site. And I felt bad because I'm a cream puff. Point is it can be done.

http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Gish_Gallop

By putting the frightening regime change out there, Ailes.....err I mean Trump

Sears into people's brains the word "change". Nice going there Ailes .....err I mean Trump.

Trump is creating a shared grievance with his base by saying the election

will be stolen if Hillary wins. Look for more use of the terms cheat and rigged. That is the tool of the psychopath he is using. They always make their cult followers share their grievances and meet the followers aspirations to get them to stay in the cult. Then they are locked in on the same path. More money for Trump to make off of them once he loses the election. His poor followers will be buying his crappy products for years. Caĺling for election observers will just vest the base more in tune with Trump's vision.

I don't think Trump is a psychopath. In my experience just knowing one will make you weep for years on end. Trump is dyslexic instead and a narcissistic liar on top of that. But he is getting advice or learning from some who are psychopathic. The GOP has been using the toolbag of the psychopath for decades. But there has also been a lot of gaslighting on the part of Trump supporters this election season, which is new.

The GOP cannot stop Trump from exploiting them because their whole philosophy is based on business

people being absolutely without fault and capitalism perfection itself when unleashed to exploit in all areas of humanity, including politics. If they go after Trump for say trying to get some rich followers by having events in Connecticut where he has no chance of winning, they would be admitting to the world that a businessman using politics to his own ends is not fair, or a good thing. I'm guessing that is the thread that keeps the GOP from denouncing Trump. He is their philosophy laid bare and they cannot reject it or they would have to admit to the world and themselves that it is corruption. So quiet they will be as Trump ventures into places like Connecticut to garner more supporters to buy his books, dvd, and network after he loses.

37% of 140,000,000 voters is 52 million voters. If they spend an

average of $100 on Trump gear, networks, books, dvds in the future that is $5.2 Billion dollars. But Trump voters are not the richest fish in the sea. That is why Trump going to Connecticut jumps out at me.

Trump just says: "the only way Hillary Clinton wins in Pennsilvania is if she cheats" CNN

He's building his brand for the after-election exploitation to make billions IMHO Why else would he go to Connecticut? To grab all the followers he can, to then monetize them in the years to come after he loses. He doesn't seem to care that he can't win the election there. That there is no electroral point to go there. But people in connecticut have money to spend on Trump books and dvds and networks into the future. Is he pulling a complete con on the GOP? And if Trump supporters across the country believe Hillary cheated to win the election, well that is the great hook to keep them as followers after his major loss.

The GOP is in full gaslight mode right now. They've always been spinning

BS, but not like this where the exact opposite is true. All day. The end of the great con is near. Trump has assaulted all minorities and the GOP has raped the middle class and working poor on the behalf of the rich who do not want to pay taxes. This will not end well. We can only hope the pain is limited to the GOP political class who layed the foundation for Trump Manafort Putin to be running for president, and for Trump and his team. I wish enough pain on the racist Trump followers that they do a little soul searching on why they need scapegoats in their daily life and if there is not a better way forward. I am assuming of course that Trump and the GOP will lose. And American will bloom again under Clinton.

Trump is skimming. He is hitting his saturation point. Things are no longer novel

for him in these politics. He is getting gummed up by details. Why he didn't take a closer look at that video showing Iranian hostages being released in Switzerland and assumed it was the $400 million coming off a plane in Tehran. If Trump was in this situation in his life as a businessman, he could pivot to another project after a year, to keep things fresh. He is not. He is running for president and he is saturated and all gummed up. He is not paying as much attention to the tv. He's zoning out. Dyslexics like Trump (and me) are at their best in new situations where they can creatively problem solve. Not so smart in a situation like a campaign when it is no longer novel.

The difference between Putin and Trump, the first a sociopath, the second

a salesman: when some former American football player showed Putin his superbowl ring, Putin tried it on and then kept it without asking. When Trump is offered the purple heart of a us serviceman to keep, he keeps it. It was thoughtless to accept it. Trump is narcissistic but not nearly as mind bogglingly weird as Putin. Trump is laughable. When you laugh at Putin's behaviour it is because it scares you in places you did not know could be scared.

Apparently when Putin tried on the ring he said "I could kill somebody with this ring" then pocketed it and was surrounded by KGB as he left. ............ I guess they are alike because Trump said I could shot somebody and not lose any supporters. The difference is Putin said it to scare the beJebus out of the owner of the ring and freeze him, while putin left. Trump was just metaphorically bragging. The difference is Putin does kill people.
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