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I told you what he's doing. Rachel is merely and incessantly regurgitating cud she and only...

everyone in media has been ruminating on for months. She and the others are myopically focused on numbers.

Man, it's bigger than percentages, and if you didn't know that before, you just learned something new. That's more than you can say by watching Rachel. You can watch any talking head on any network spew out the exact same piece verbatim. She's even reading from the New York Times. How stupid is her audience that she believes they need to be told the math every day. The math hasn't changed for months. Months ago she was reading Nate Silver to you, and he told you Bernie's route was impossible. She treats you all like you have ADD.
Posted by WhaTHellsgoingonhere | Wed May 4, 2016, 01:21 PM (0 replies)

Rachel Maddow assumes Rush's role for the Dem Party: King Maker

There is so much good that will come of Bernie staying in, arguably the most important reason of all being exposing and educating Americans on how we select a candidate. Every state is different and many elections have had disputed results on the our side; we were thought of the pure party and above election shananagins. I can't wait until the California primary and hundreds of thousands discover they are left out of the process for mistakenly registering with the Independence Party. People didn't know so this is a learning experience. But they won't learn a damn thing if Bernie drops out.

Then you have myopic Rachel slamming Bernie for not bowing out. Rachel is of the elitist, well educated 10% class Thomas Frank is calling out in "Listen Liberal."

Please note: King Maker is sexist but Queen maker is more sexiest. I know the latter is true because I read it on DU.

Posted by WhaTHellsgoingonhere | Wed May 4, 2016, 12:31 PM (42 replies)

I think Hillary supporters have a worry reflex that's not rational. They started blaming

Bernie supporters months ago for her losing the GE. Trump and his legion are a media phenomenon. They're not under a microscope, they're under a magnifying glass. They aren't that numerous, they just look irresistible on TV. And remember, this year, Hillary is a media favorite, too. The media loves to make and break people. She's like a great comeback kid story on her way to history and only a complete bafoon stands in her way. The media built Trump up, now they are going to destroy him.

He's too embarrassing and illequipped to be a statesman and the media knows it. And who are his allies? Which generals support him? Who from Wall Street supports him? Who in Congress supports him? Who in TV or real estate supports him? His cabinet will be Duck Dynasty.
Posted by WhaTHellsgoingonhere | Wed May 4, 2016, 07:33 AM (1 replies)

No. And what makes you think he didn't start it? Or maybe you're point is, it had already begun.

Occupy started it, then it got moved along until Bernie said, "If no one else steps forward, then I will." And when no one else stepped forward (I think we were holding out for Warren), Bernie put it on PEDs. But the establishment, including MSM, has marginalized the revolution since Day 1. And Bernie, an old, obscure socialist from an overlooked state was their, i.e. the establishment and media, dream candidate. A target too easy to mock and ridicule they couldn't have cast a better character. But they underestimated the Revolution. They thought the kids had just showed up but the revolution had been underway for years.
Posted by WhaTHellsgoingonhere | Fri Apr 29, 2016, 01:13 PM (0 replies)

If Trump wins the GE, it would be consistent with this trend

Carter - pensive, gloomy, honest, weak, caring ---> Reagan - superficial, vibrant, pitchman, strong

Bush 41 - elder, nerdy, weak -----> Clinton - young, virile, charismatic

Bush 43 - buddy, goofy, unintelligible, loose cannon ------> Obama - measured, thoughtful, measured, orator, measured, classy

45 has to be Trump!
Posted by WhaTHellsgoingonhere | Tue Apr 26, 2016, 09:37 PM (5 replies)

That's because Bernie's ability to excite and engage people who haven't been so in years flies in

the face of the Party's and media's meme: Democrats lose because they don't show up.

In order to prepetuate this meme, they have to ignore the fact that people with Democratic values are numerous and had been dormant until Bernie came around.

The most unliked candidate in history towing the establishment line doesn't inspire people to turnout.

Posted by WhaTHellsgoingonhere | Sun Apr 24, 2016, 02:30 PM (0 replies)

^People don't understand how things work in their own states, and playing it out will help expose


In California, almost 3/4 of people registered in the ultra-right wing Independece Party, did so mistakenly. They thought they were registering Independent. That means more than 300,000 Californians will be shut out. They didn't know any better, I'm not convinced you know any better, either. Play it out. People need to learn the mechanics. And if you're uncertain, this gives Hillary a gigantic advantage. I'm sure she's kind of anxious about how it will play out when people find out they can't participate.

Posted by WhaTHellsgoingonhere | Sun Apr 24, 2016, 01:54 PM (0 replies)

That's not even the complete story. The status quo half,

the half that's had control of the Party for a generation now, is hemorrhaging individuals with FDR Democratic values, turning others off to the political process, and inspiring others to register Independent. This is a big deal in that, in practice, it works like voter suppression. As opposition outside the Party continues to grow, so too does the relative strength of the establishment. It's winning by losing. Following NY, Joan Walsh was so proud of herself, and lauded by her colleagues, after writing what this generation of New Democrats does best: shame people for not showing up. She wrote, Bernie supporters love to rally but they don't like to vote. She, and the rest of the media that's been fueling this meme for years, totally missed the real story. Bernie's engaged people the Democratic establishment has happily ignored for years. Unfortunately, they've rejected the Democratic Party and registered Independent. Joan will get to pat herself on the back again come California's closed election, as 300,000 Californians, likely mistakenly, registered with the Independence Party. People don't understand the machine, especially people who vote in states where their vote never matters.
Posted by WhaTHellsgoingonhere | Sun Apr 24, 2016, 05:36 AM (1 replies)

Yes. One is a status quo income inequality candidate and the other wants to see income redistributed

to the bottom 90%.

You might be asking, "Will either candidate get anything accomplished in the next 4 years?"

No. Supporters of each candidate who think their favorite will face LESS obstruction than Obama is deluded.

This election is to validate the status quo or to define a new direction for the party. Too bad one candidate is a man. I'd love to know how this would go if you controlled for gender.
Posted by WhaTHellsgoingonhere | Sat Apr 23, 2016, 02:45 PM (0 replies)

Is anyone in MSM urging Bernie to stay in? I've only heard "it's hopeless" "it's over"

"he has to get out now" "there is no revolution" "young people like to rally but don't like to vote" and my favorite of all "if he stays in any longer he'll weaken Hillary for the GE, she needs to turn her attention to the GE now!"

Good messaging MSM!
Posted by WhaTHellsgoingonhere | Fri Apr 22, 2016, 10:59 AM (0 replies)
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