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Kelvin Mace

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When you ask/demand that I vote for HRC

You are asking me to accept the responsibility/blame for:

1) The cruel and unjust practice of executing people, including innocent people

2) The perpetuation of a prison system which corporations run for a profit, and which requires laws that keep people in jail making money for these same corporations.

3) The continuance of a policy of eternal war without regard for cost in blood and treasure.

4) An economic policy which privatizes profit for the select few, while socializing losses on the backs of the majority.

5) A political system by the dollar, for the dollar.

6) An environmental policy which dooms us all by famine, poison air/water/soil, and climate change inimical to human life.

Then you tell me that if I refuse to be your accomplice in supporting any of all of these eventualities, then I am complicit in the election of someone who will be "worse".

In essence, you ask me to compare stacks of corpses and choose the smaller stack in the name of "pragmatism". And if I refuse to choose, I am guilty for what happens none the less.

Damned if I vote for.

Damned if I vote against.

Damned if I refuse to vote.

Now some of you will get angry and accuse me of playing the "morally superior" card. Well, that is your choice. I am unlikely to convince you that some of us are actually bothered by these moral questions. Some of us can't simply pick the lesser of two evils and look at ourselves in the mirror afterward.

So, do what you will. You certainly do not need my approval or permission. Conversely, I refuse to accept any blame for acting in accordance with my conscience.

With 88% reporting, Bernie 60%, HRC 38.4%

To all the folks who keep claiming that not supporting HRC is a Republican vote

This little golden oldie from 2008.

I love her final prediction:

When will Trump pull off his mask and reveal that Andy Kaufman is still alive?

That is the only thing that can explain this:

This is the most jingoistic, narcissistic, and skeeviest thing I have ever seen.

The Boston bombing

was motivated, if the FBI is to be believed, by Islamic extremism. Can you think of anything the U.S. is doing that might have upset these people over the last decade or so?

Yes, they were living here, but that is no guarantee against terrorism, see Timothy McVeigh and Eric Rudolph.

Now those two examples would seem to point to people our foreign/domestic policy isn't hurting, but actually, that is not true. McVeigh was a veteran of our first war in Iraq, and Rudolph was kicked out of the Army for weed. Thus our failed policy of foreign intervention and our failed policy of drug interdiction, along with our failed policy on veterans mental health care and employment, and our failed policy on investigating domestic terrorists (anti-abortion religious fanatics are given a pass and rarely called terrorists) was influential in what these men did.

And, of course, you are right. Some people are just insane. But then that would fall into the category of our failed policy for dealing with the mentally ill.

So, if you want to stop 99.99% of terrorism:

1) Stop killing other people

2) Stop meddling in other people's affairs

3) Take care of sick people

4) Take care of the people you train to kill people (soldiers and police)

HRC and her good friend Henry Kissinger

I am posting this because whenever this topic came up in the past, HRC defenders brushed it off as her simply being polite to a member of the political establishment. She wrote a fawning review of his book just to be nice, and we should in no way view praise of a war criminal as unseemly.

As I said in response, her relationship went beyond the "polite" to "kindred spirits". Henry Kissinger is the only man in this country with more blood on his hands than the likes of Dick Cheney, Donald Rumsfeld and George W.


Emails expose close ties between Hillary Clinton and accused war criminal Henry Kissinger

“I greatly admire the skill and aplomb with which you conduct our foreign policy,” wrote Henry Kissinger in a 2012 letter to “the Honorable Hillary Rodham Clinton.” The compliment was included as a handwritten postscript added to the printed letter.

The Feb. 7 letter, which was released in a batch of emails from former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, is a request that she help declassify documents from Kissinger’s time as secretary of state, which he says constitute “a unique record of a critical period in American foreign policy.”

The late journalist Christopher Hitchens devoted an entire book to detailing the war crimes overseen by Kissinger, who infamously declared “The illegal we do immediately; the unconstitutional takes a little longer.”

In “The Trial of Henry Kissinger,” Hitchens argues the former secretary of state should be tried “for war crimes, for crimes against humanity, and for offenses against common or customary or international law, including conspiracy to commit murder, kidnap and torture.”

Hitchens described Kissinger as a master of “depraved realpolitik” with “a callous indifference to human life and human rights,” who was behind U.S.-backed atrocities in Vietnam, Cambodia, Laos, East Timor, Chile, Bangladesh, Cyprus, Kurdish Iraq, Iran, South Africa, Angola and more.

Yes, the article points out that John Kerry also has cordial relations with Kissinger, and I will say right now that I condemn the man wholeheartedly and have no further use for him. ANYONE who treats with Kissinger on such a level is condoning war crimes.

Yes, I know other Democrats, including the current administration had dealings with him, and shame on them. I can excuse Carter, since he inherited the shambles of the loss of Vietnam along with the chaos of the surrounding region and had to deal with this ghoul in cleaning up his mess. But once his crimes became documented, treating him as anything other than a pariah unforgivable.

Poll over at DKos needs some Bernie support love


This is why I despair at HRC being the candidate

"Workers are assets. Investing in them pays off. Higher wages pay off. And training pays off."


Even when pandering to us, she speaks the language of the oligarchs.

I am NOT an "asset". I am a human being.

The modern slave trade, TPP and the Obama Administration

Given this story in The Nation, I find it very hard to judge this action by the Obama Administration as anything other than totally evil. The obvious first defense of the president would be that this was done WITHOUT his complicity. If this is true, then I expect to shortly hear that he has rescinded this "reclassification" of Malaysia. If nothing is done, I am left with no alternative to the view that he is just as evil and Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld et al. That when it comes to a decision of money or humanity, he will pick money.


Obama Won’t Let Some Mass Graves Stop the TPP
The Nation

Malaysia is home to many “outsourcing companies” that are, in reality, professional slaving operations: foreign workers, often refugees fleeing desperate situations in nearby countries like Burma, are recruited to the country with the promise of legitimate work but then subjected to forced labor and sex trafficking. The State Department and international human rights groups have routinely concluded the Malaysian government does very little to inhibit the traffickers’ operation.

Senator Robert Menendez inserted language into the Senate version of fast-track prohibiting the use of fast-track for a trade deal with a Tier 3 country, presumably with an eye on Malaysia. The Obama administration and Republican leaders in the House tried to have the language removed but were unable to excise it due to the complicated path the fast-track bill took through Congress.

Observers were then unsure what would happen next. Would Malaysia be thrown out of the deal? Would the United States lean hard on the Malaysian government to crack down on human traffickers so it could sign the trade deal? Was there any chance fast track would be disengaged for the TPP?

 Instead, the Obama administration appears to have chosen another path that has shocked the human-rights community: It will simply reclassify Malaysia. Reuters has reported that when the Trafficking in Persons report comes out next week, Malaysia will no longer be a Tier 3 country.

There is essentially zero evidence Malaysia has done anything to earn this reclassification. Just two months ago, police found 139 mass graves along the Malaysian border that contained migrant workers that had been trafficked or held for ransom.

Is "Denari Über Alles" now the Democratic Party motto?

"Slaves did not lose their dignity...because the government allowed them to be enslaved"

Let me be fair and give you the complete context of that statement in Clarence Thomas' dissent in Obergefell v. Hodges:

In dissent, Thomas argued that "human dignity cannot be taken away by the government. Slaves did not lose their dignity (any more than they lost their humanity) because the government allowed them to be enslaved. Those held in internment camps did not lose their dignity because the government confined them. And those denied governmental benefits certainly do not lose their dignity because the government denies them those benefits. The government cannot bestow dignity, and it cannot take it away."

This was written by a sitting an African American Supreme Court Justice(?) in the second decade of the 21st century!!

How disconnected from reality can a human being be?

Of all the sins of the Democratic Party, this has been the most damaging. By refusing to filibuster this man, as they did Robert Bork (Correction, Bork was voted down in the senate. Thomas should have been voted down as well but 11 Democrats defected and voted to confirm), they sowed the seeds of the loss of the 2000 election, the elevation of corporations to personhood, the destruction of the Voting Rights Act, and numerous other erosions of justice and liberty.

Thomas is the personification of Judge Narragansett from Ayn Rand's Atlas Shrugged, to such and extant that Rand is probably writhing in her grave in orgasmic ecstasy.

Try to remember that this man replaced Thurgood Marshall
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