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Hortensis

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Gender: Female
Hometown: Deep South, USA
Home country: USA
Current location: My favorite chair, or maybe out on the porch.
Member since: Thu Jul 24, 2014, 03:54 AM
Number of posts: 12,947

About Me

My "favorite forum" is NOT that bickering slough, Postmortum. I do NOT have over 500 posts there. I've had it blocked since the election and only seldom, almost always accidentally, post on threads there.

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Yup. A relative by marriage attended one, perhaps this one,

can't remember, and was caught up briefly in all the entertaining groups and events, but one Sunday she noticed that she couldn't remember hearing "Jesus" mentioned the entire 6 hours or so she was there--and finally started comparing Mega-Socialization Center to what she actually wanted out of church. Some months later she tried replacing it with a Christian dating service.

There are huge ideological divisions. They'll pull together

sometimes and have some victories, some big ones, but a huge weakness of extremists of all types is their intransigence and inability to cooperate for long, if at all, with others. Just look at the totally unnecessary ideological collision Bill USA's post on Planned Parenthood describes.

And, yes, right now Trump is able to use "his" thug press to threaten congressmen who step out of line, but how long will that last? Bannon, for instance, isn't really Trump's man, he's just harnessing Trump's power. And most congressmen are really only answerable to the wealthy interests who will fund their reelection, not to their constituents, so Trump will only prevail where his interests run in tandem with the plutocrats', and even the they are in competition with each other for power and have different agendas. For instance, some are aligned with Christian reconstructionists and some are adamantly not, ultimately implacable enemies trying to use each other.

How many in the Koch alliance alone, several hundred strong, really think destroying universal public education would be good for business? Now that it might actually seem to be horribly, conceivably possible?

Yes, but we only became their #1 enemy when the

Soviet Union collapsed. I saw it with the tremendous ramping up of hostility conservatives turned on Democrats when Bill Clinton was running, to unprecedented levels. When the existential threat strong conservatives always know exists disappeared from without, they focused within.

Putin, ISIS, North Korea, etc., are nothing to be wished for, but hopefully these very real existential threats will help shift the focus of their inevitable hostility and aggression outward again.

Right now people like Bannon are trying very hard to develop an international movement against liberalism and secularism in which our conservatives are joined with Russia's, and even potentially Islam's conservatives, against liberalism and secularism. At least that's the grand idea, but they've only gotten this far by hiding what they're really up to.

Uhhh.... Our big problem is that LIES DON'T WORK FOR US.

But as we know, they do work very well for conservatives, who, generally speaking, have a dark view of humanity and are always eager to identify, villify, and attack.

For all of us, a nice juicy lie will always be far more interesting than policy explanations. And a lie may circle the planet in the time it takes the truth to pull its pants on.

But ultimately lies repel liberals, who, if not perfect truthseekers, do respect truth and become angry at being lied to a lot more than conservatives. That's why right-wing propaganda machines are so much more powerful than the ones operated by smarmy left-wingers.

We do need to "talk politics" more with those around us.

Nice chat, but chat that makes people aware of what's happening and that they have a choice to make -- do nothing and possibly lose all that mentioned, or start saying no.

You know, they believe in nothing they can define in words, but

they do have strong feelings-based predilections, leaving them very vulnerable to manipulation by others who connect those feelings to their own goals and direct them against...us.

Right now, it seems that the attack-enemies political mode most conservatives have been in for so long has been forming, far more strongly than I guessed, into an anti-liberal and anti-secular movement (bizarrely) revealed by this election--and by the people come out of the shadows to gloat in Washington--that is truly frightening.

Scarily, both anti-liberalism and anti-secularism DO both come from the gut of most conservatives, and both support a genuine powerful ideology bent on destroying our liberalism-based republic. The replacement would be determined by whichever faction would win out, of course, a libertarian or an economic or religious fascistic pretense of a republic, turning us into the world's most technologically advanced, poor, underdeveloped nation.

From what I've read, for those specifically supporting this, this is what's behind the admiration for Russia -- now seen as an ally in a global battle against liberalism and secularism.

We have a huge job to do, but it may be that our greatest ally will be the extremist leaders themselves, for all their current victories. They're powerful in money and passion but fundamentally incompetent to run a large nation. And they are extremists, and the true scope of the revolution they plan is not something they can admit to even their own followers.

At least all this is the nightmare that keeps returning to mind whenever I wake up in the middle of the night. We came so close to hopefully being able to tamp discontent down with further growth of prosperity and personal security.



Of course it's war. Russia is a poor, backwards

mess of a nation; yes, with an oversized military, but no match for us. It has almost no manufacturing aside from munitions, and its GDP is maybe half the size of California's.

Putin wants to rebuild the Soviet Union from this underdeveloped, mislead wreck, but before he can invade and take over European nations he has to take out the U.S. and with it NATO. It's war on the U.S. just as the 9/11 attacks were war.

Excellent first article, will read this too. Thanks!

The VA's operating costs are about 3% of its budget, the rest going to patient care. And in the process, many billions of dollars in profits from exploiting veterans problems are being denied the hyenas.

Charles Koch: "The only legitimate role of government is protection of person and property."

OF COURSE, they intend to destroy the VA.

The radical left and reactionary right are very alike

in most personality characteristics. They may--and do--switch allegiances between them, such as when some former tea-partiers moved directly to Sanders, but people from both groups understand each other and despise the mainstream. They do not become more moderate. Neocons were not liberals who shifted across the moderate range to the extreme right militarily. They were always radical left and moved far right militarily.

After watching the primary, it should be no surprise that rigid minds on the left still bear primary antipathy to the left's larger, more moderate, mainstream bloc--liberal Democrats. It's a big part of what they are.

So, they are NOT us, and never were. And let's never forget to remember that something is very right with the nearly 66 MILLION Americans who voted for what Hillary planned for our country.

PBS just asked a cyberintelligence contractor if the FBI's

call to a low-level IT subcontractor -- notifying the DNC that the Russians had hacked them -- and never following up with high-level personnel after being blowing off by the IT guy! -- was standard procedure for the FBI.

The expert from Crowdstrike, whose group uncovered the Russians very quickly after being called in months too late, made some excuse about how many of these things the FBI handles each day, and then gave up the attempt to make excuses for the FBI and said no. He suggested the FBI might even have taken a couple minutes to drive over to the DNC and notify them in person.

Hell no, of course.

My questions are, who in the FBI gave instructions to fail to properly notify the DNC?
Was Comey acting on his own or colluding with others to throw the election to the Republicans?
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