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If one more person tells me I need to try to understand Trump voters or

get to know the issues that concern them, I will dance all over they heads.

I have lived with and am related to many of these people, and at the bottom of it all for many, they are just mad. They want to get 'theirs' back from everybody who took it from them. They think the only reason they aren't rolling in the good life is that immigrants, POC and whoever else got it.

What 'It' consists of is some amorphous basket of things they think they are entitled to.

Before the election, I talked to them about losing the ACA, SS, Medicare, clean water, and gawd knows whar else. They would not listen. They did not believe me.

I quoted the Bible them and they shrugged. They turned their backs on every religious and American value they had so loudly thrown about for years.

I.HAVE.HAD.IT.

I will not coddle them or give them one more inch. Believe me I tried.

I AM OUT OF 'BE SWEET.'
If I knew what would work to let them see a glimmer of what is happening, I might still try. I don't think watching a nuclear explosion in the distance would matter to them.

So, for those of you who still want to try. Have at it. I have been around this for YEARS.

They can go to hell.

Edit to add: I kept hearing that I didn't know how mad Trumpkins were.
Well, I am pissed beyond all measure. They ain't seen mad yet. Touch SS or Medicare.
Posted by Are_grits_groceries | Tue Feb 21, 2017, 07:09 AM (114 replies)

I got into a discussion about FADA & denying service in PUBLIC businesses based on one's beliefs.

Here were his answers to FADA.
de Toqueville
"Here is my approach, one thoroughly thought over during the Scottish Enlightenment, and the the one adopted by the framers of the Constitution: (1) I am the owner of my body; therefore (2) I can do with my body as I wish, but (3) with the primary limitation that my right ends where your right begins. If you believe that I have a legal duty to serve someone I don't want to serve, you've violated this principle because you've placed their rights over mine. I have a right to refrain from using my body in a manner I object to, because it's mine. By contrast, the protected class you want to force me to serve has no corresponding right to demand labor from my body. Otherwise, you've endorsed the peaceful slavery that I quoted from Tocqueville above.""

Lord Moulton on Manners
We must distinguish between should and shouldn't versus legal and illegal. There are plenty of things we "shouldn't" do that don't violate someone's rights and thus should not be illegal. One of the best discussions on this topic appeared in the Atlantic Monthly in 1924 and is titled "Law and Manners." It's a great read and not very long. http://www2.econ.iastate.edu/.../Newspa.../LawAndManners.pdf

I pointed out that de Toqueville also spoke of the " Tyranny of the majority." He cuts both ways.
Then about Lord Moulton and manners whereby those mores would shape better behavior
I told him if my Mama and her sisters were patrolling the streets along with others of like mind, there would be much better behavior. However, it has been proven that trying to rely on manners to dictate behavior leads to "Lord of the Dung Bettles" and worse.

Lawd help me.
Posted by Are_grits_groceries | Sun Feb 19, 2017, 10:41 AM (0 replies)

This will leave a mark! COMMENTARY: Christianity declared illegal by executive action?

From a pastor in Clemson, SC

Read it all. He ain't skeered to call people out!
COMMENTARY: Christianity declared illegal by executive action?
Christianity has been declared illegal in the United States of America. There’s no prohibition against professing one’s faith in Jesus. In fact, speaking the name of the Christian savior is in vogue with the current presidential administration as was evident in the multiple Christian-specific prayers offered at President Trump’s inauguration. Prominent religious figures even suggest the most recent election was guided by divine action. The Rev. Franklin Graham declared: “I believe God’s hand was in .” But is the hand of God visible in the fruits of this presidency?
More.....
http://www.greenvilleonline.com/story/opinion/contributors/2017/02/16/commentary-christianity-declared-illegal-executive-action/97995716/

Posted by Are_grits_groceries | Fri Feb 17, 2017, 07:07 AM (3 replies)

Yeah. Screw around and threaten Kim Jong Un.

South Korean news is reporting that Kim Jong Nam, KJU's older brother, has been killed in Malaysia by 2 female agents with a poison needle.

They could make ISIS look tame. KJU is batshit crazy.
Posted by Are_grits_groceries | Tue Feb 14, 2017, 07:21 AM (4 replies)

Somebody at the USTA needs to find our why "Deutschland, Deutschland, Uber Allies' was

sung at the beginning of a Germany/American match. The players went ballistic and I don't blame them.
The singer apparently deviated from what the fans were singing. His name is Will Kimball. Who is he and what are his connections?

http://deadspin.com/u-s-performs-nazi-era-deutschland-deutschland-uber-a-1792271568/amp
Posted by Are_grits_groceries | Mon Feb 13, 2017, 10:40 AM (1 replies)

My brother's exploding power bill.

I pay my brother's bill online. It is around $25 a month. I began to do it when he got pinned in by an ice storm and had forgotten to send it in. I kept on and he reimburses me. NBD.

The I saw him at the beginning of January and he warned me the bill would be much higher. He had gotten tired of bundling up for the 'cold' and was using space heaters. The bill came in at $97.

I asked him then if he was living in a refrigerator? I also told him he was gonna burn hisself up using those heaters. He lives in a very, very old 4-room woodframe house.

The other thing I told him was to expect a visit from the authorities. That type of power rise would be flagged somewhere. He told me that this was a one off and the bill should go back down.

So I get the next bill and it's $160. I called him and asked him what the hell he was really doing. I get the 'I am cold' scenario. He will be bringing me moneys this week to pay for that.

I am highly skeptical of his story. I am tempted to drive down there, but then I might have to testify.
Anybody else have questions besides me about this?


Posted by Are_grits_groceries | Sun Feb 12, 2017, 04:10 AM (43 replies)

My FB post aimed at my 'Xtian' Trump followers:

Jesus returned.
He was picked up in Amarillo working in a homeless shelter.
ICE has him jailed in a detention center somewhere.
I'd ask you to pray for him but I don't think he wants to hear from you now.
Question: Was your '30 pieces of silver' made by direct deposit from Trump, your God?

What? You think he'd be in the White House planning with Bannon? You are reading 'Mein Kampf' and not the Bible if you do.
Posted by Are_grits_groceries | Sat Feb 11, 2017, 07:40 AM (0 replies)

A brilliant ad from Denmark about people and their differences:




Posted by Are_grits_groceries | Wed Feb 8, 2017, 07:18 AM (4 replies)

A symbol for the Resistance:



"Ohmward and Upward"
Posted by Are_grits_groceries | Sat Feb 4, 2017, 02:14 AM (16 replies)

My brother came by.

I got his W-2s to do his taxes.
I don't think he voted for Trump because he didn't vote. He seems to think that the Trump moves are amusing. He is a moron. However, he does understand more than most. He told me that the problem was that Trump is crazy.

I told him that I had disowned or been disowned by almost all relatives and friends because of their Trump support. I said that the only reason I opened my door to him was because he had helped me a lot before. Then I said "Don't push it."

I also tod him he knew this was different. He knew because I had never acted this way before no matter the election. That should be a big clue.

He zigs and zags. He believes some of the stupid GOP crap. He has shrieked about guns before but he that seems to be the only thing he is still blathering about.

He has really helped me a lot and isn't a religious hypocrite. He has a temporary pass for now.

*****
About 10 years ago he worked for my cousin on his farm. A lot of the basic work was done by Hispanic immigrants, illegal or not. He asked to buy him a small Spanish/English dictionary and one of the learn it yourself courses. He wanted to learn enough to talk to them. He said they needed help and he wanted to at least be able to understand them. That's why I haven't thrown him in Lynches River. Ya never know, ya know.
Posted by Are_grits_groceries | Sat Feb 4, 2017, 02:05 AM (3 replies)
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