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grasswire (2218 posts) Jan-17-03, 10:23 PM (ET) Freeper Doug From Upland poisoned CNN on Will Pitt http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/824732/posts CNN HAS BEEN INFORMED WHAT WHACKJOB PITT REALLY THINKS OF THEM dfu | 1-17-03 | dfu Posted on 01/17/2003 5:28 PM PST by doug from upland Because JimRob does not want the name of the site mentioned, it will not be mentioned here. But you might find this interesting. The co-author with Scott Ritter of a silly little book about Iraq is a whackjob named William Rivers Pitt. Pitt has been bragging that he has been talking to the CNN producer about going on the show. I called earlier to let them know a little bit about Pitt. Whether that had any impact at all in keeping him off the show I cannot say. I know we didn't need any more evidence to prove what a whackjob he is, but his latest action is really amusing. While trying to get on the show, he is badmouthing CNN behind their backs. Well, now CNN is in possession of what he has said. After speaking with an assistant who knows who Pitt is, she gave me the e-mail address and told me to send the info to Molly Levinson. Here was my e-mail to the show: (newsnight@cnn.com) ATTN: Molly Levinson Molly, I thought you might like to know what a possible guest, William Pitt, really thinks of CNN. Here is the link of what he just posted on the (redacted website)--- http://www.(redacted).com/duforum/DCForumID60/29044.html#13 BELOW ARE THE STATEMENTS FROM THE (redacted). Behind your back, he calls you "The Great Whore." He wants to be a guest but he mocks you. For your information, Pitt has taken his site www.WillPitt.com offline probably because he does not want people to be checking what he has written. He has actually put in writing that Ronald Reagan, through Ollie North, sent the bomb to Beirut that killed our Marines. He writes on all the anti-Bush internet sites and lives to do political damage to the president. WilliamPitt Jan-17-03, 04:46 PM (ET) It is a NO-GO for me on CNN tonight (for now) They are going in a "different direction" tonight, so I am off the hook. BUT She wants me to call her on Monday morning because they want to cover the protest in DC this weekend, and I told her I'd be there with Pacifica. So keep that karma coming. And thanks. dbaker41 (1075 posts) Jan-17-03, 04:48 PM (ET) 2. Karma comin atcha, Bro! I was looking forward to seeing you on the Great Whore CNN tonight. Bake WilliamPitt(12786 posts) Jan-17-03, 04:53 PM (ET) Reply to post #2 3. The Great Whore will have to wait LAST EDITED ON Jan-17-03 AT 04:53 PM (ET) until Monday. ==================================== I gave them my full name and my phone number. You have to just love the rascal. He is begging to be on the show while calling CNN "The Great Whore." If anyone would like to call CNN, the personnel for Aaron Brown's show get there about 2:00PM Eastern. I suppose they will be there now since it is an evening show. 212.714.7800   Alert Edit | Reply | Top

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Subject     Author     Message Date     ID    that was DFU's post, by the way grasswire Jan-17-03 1    Will, maybe you have a slander suit grasswire 01/17/2003 2  Selah WilliamPitt Jan-17-03 3    We're in a bit of a bind with these media people. JanMichael 01/17/2003 5        I'm just letting fly WilliamPitt 01/17/2003 7            No Will, not *you*. JanMichael 01/17/2003 12                Sorry WilliamPitt 01/17/2003 13                    Don't worry 'bout it! I know it's been an exciting evening. JanMichael 01/17/2003 19  I wrote the producer, for whatever that's worth WilliamPitt Jan-17-03 4    I wrote the producer too... grasswire 01/17/2003 6    To hell with those freeper freaks buff2 01/18/2003 48  They posted his staff's phone number at Freeperville, eh? Junkdrawer Jan-17-03 8    you can read a lot about them... grasswire 01/17/2003 16  What a great endorsement. The Backlash Cometh Jan-17-03 9  I don't remember CNN asking Gore Vidal his opinion on the war. oasis Jan-17-03 10  any news organization that takes its direction from crackpots ... Lisa Jan-17-03 11  your e-mail made clear your feelings for CNN and other CMT Jan-17-03 14  The thought passed my mind that some of the FR readers Old and In the Way Jan-17-03 15    yes, a loser... grasswire 01/17/2003 20    If Doug in Upland is in Upland, IN HoosierDaddy 01/18/2003 42  That whole message... kixot Jan-17-03 17  It's cute how the freepers want to be DU so badly. AP Jan-17-03 18    well, if you count Barbara Olson.... grasswire 01/17/2003 21        What I mean is, has any poster from FreeRepublic ever risen up from th... AP 01/17/2003 27            Nah, if any '(in)famous' repugs are lurkers over there... AdrianInOcala 01/18/2003 45    proof of the "liberal media" ;) Jones 01/17/2003 25  "Great moments in Journalism" Aaron Brown is interviewing a chef oasis Jan-17-03 22    DFU from an earlier thread grasswire 01/17/2003 23        Brown's people may be using DFU accusations for a convenient dodge. oasis 01/17/2003 30        Eff it. As long as they spell the name right. 5thGenDemocrat 01/18/2003 43    Hell you could damn near buy a whole cow for $50.00! How am I wildwww2 01/17/2003 36        It's obscene Cocoa 01/18/2003 44  SIMPLE SOLUTION....... MIMStigator Jan-17-03 24    Good idea... Junkdrawer 01/17/2003 29        I'll bet you're right. NRK 01/18/2003 41    Here's hisDFU posts from freakville PaDUer 01/17/2003 39  Freeper logic strikes again obeah Jan-17-03 26  “Behind CNNs back”? joshcryer Jan-17-03 28  Was it the Freeper or Will who poisoned the well? Cronus Jan-17-03 31  I dont think they will take it that seriously sitkadem Jan-17-03 32  We've had our differences, but on this YOU ARE CORRECT! KoKo01 Jan-17-03 33  Smear asults taking place. Code_Name_D Jan-17-03 34  MSNBC's Donahue doesn't allow DFU type "book burners" oasis Jan-17-03 35    i know what the DF stands for in DFU flush_bush 01/17/2003 37        here's more from DFU grasswire 01/17/2003 38            a regular pervert grasswire 01/18/2003 40  What about Crossfire? Gman Jan-18-03 46    Unfortunatly BillCart 01/18/2003 47  this sounds incredibly childish and nutjob-ish. TheBigGuy Jan-19-03 49

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grasswire (2218 posts) Jan-17-03, 10:25 PM (ET) 1. that was DFU's post, by the way those were his words. He's a known crackpot. Obsessed with the Clintons' sex lives.   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Top

grasswire (2218 posts) Jan-17-03, 10:30 PM (ET) Reply to post #1 2. Will, maybe you have a slander suit ....against DFU.   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Top

WilliamPitt (12826 posts) Jan-17-03, 10:31 PM (ET) 3. Selah Anger is a gift. War On Iraq: What Team Bush Doesn't Want You To Know Image Image Image GKS2002   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Top

JanMichael (2113 posts) Jan-17-03, 10:38 PM (ET) Reply to post #3 5. We're in a bit of a bind with these media people. LAST EDITED ON Jan-17-03 AT 10:39 PM (ET) We confront them for their whoredom, which is absolutely true and correct, and even when we're being nice about it though it's still a condemnation of their very livelyhood, perhaps even their selfworth. However they are by nature attention seekers, so when we're berating them (or just enlightening them), holding the mirror up, the "others" are sending them flattering messages and making us look petty! PS~ I have an ex-fiance that works for one of the big three news networks in NYC. We talk about these issues weekly and I can tell that when I bring up relevant objections, and she spews out the party line, that she's horribly embarrassed/frusterated/compromised. Kid gloves? I don't know... "This crippling of individuals I consider the worst evil of capitalism. Our whole educational system suffers from this evil. An exaggerated competitive attitude is inculcated into the student, who is trained to worship acquisitive success as a preparation for his future career. I am convinced there is only one way to eliminate these grave evils, namely through the establishment of a socialist economy, accompanied by an educational system which would be oriented toward social goals." Albert Einstein, Monthly Review, 1949   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Top

WilliamPitt (12826 posts) Jan-17-03, 10:40 PM (ET) Reply to post #5 7. I'm just letting fly and fuck whose feelings get hurt. When the game ends, they'll all wind up facing the same judge. Me. Anger is a gift. War On Iraq: What Team Bush Doesn't Want You To Know Image Image Image GKS2002   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Top

JanMichael (2113 posts) Jan-17-03, 10:43 PM (ET) Reply to post #7 12. No Will, not *you*. Us. Step away from the golden calf and put your hands on Humility. "This crippling of individuals I consider the worst evil of capitalism. Our whole educational system suffers from this evil. An exaggerated competitive attitude is inculcated into the student, who is trained to worship acquisitive success as a preparation for his future career. I am convinced there is only one way to eliminate these grave evils, namely through the establishment of a socialist economy, accompanied by an educational system which would be oriented toward social goals." Albert Einstein, Monthly Review, 1949   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Top

WilliamPitt (12826 posts) Jan-17-03, 10:44 PM (ET) Reply to post #12 13. Sorry *chilling out* Anger is a gift. War On Iraq: What Team Bush Doesn't Want You To Know Image Image Image GKS2002   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Top

JanMichael (2113 posts) Jan-17-03, 10:51 PM (ET) Reply to post #13 19. Don't worry 'bout it! I know it's been an exciting evening. Because tomorrow will be significantly more intense! Frankly I'm so wired right now that sleep isn't very likely. PS~ They're doing a slutted up piece on the idiotic $50 "burger"...I think I'm going to puke. "This crippling of individuals I consider the worst evil of capitalism. Our whole educational system suffers from this evil. An exaggerated competitive attitude is inculcated into the student, who is trained to worship acquisitive success as a preparation for his future career. I am convinced there is only one way to eliminate these grave evils, namely through the establishment of a socialist economy, accompanied by an educational system which would be oriented toward social goals." Albert Einstein, Monthly Review, 1949   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Top

WilliamPitt (12826 posts) Jan-17-03, 10:36 PM (ET) 4. I wrote the producer, for whatever that's worth The well was already poisoned by his first phone call, so whatever. Fuck them all. Anger is a gift. War On Iraq: What Team Bush Doesn't Want You To Know Image Image Image GKS2002   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Top

grasswire (2218 posts) Jan-17-03, 10:39 PM (ET) Reply to post #4 6. I wrote the producer too... ....and pointed out some of the press DFU has gotten over the years (remember that rant in Fresno where he wished for the death of Alan Dershowitz?), and pointed out some of his "writings" such as the one fixating on naked protestors. I also pointed the producer to Dan Moldea's sendup of freepers and some of their dirty tricks.   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Top

buff2 (268 posts) Jan-18-03, 11:35 PM (ET) Reply to post #4 48. To hell with those freeper freaks They called CNN CLINTON NEWS NETWORK for EIGHT years! Freakin hypocrite bastards!   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Top

Junkdrawer (1745 posts) Jan-17-03, 10:40 PM (ET) 8. They posted his staff's phone number at Freeperville, eh? Could go a long way towards explaining his outrage. Talk about folks with no shame, you should see some of the freeper posts on my Computer Voting Reform petition. I can only imagine what they said to his staff (and perhaps make it seem as if it was at Will's bidding). The tools of conquest do not necessarily come with bombs and explosions and fallout. There are weapons that are simply thoughts, attitudes, prejudices - to be found only in the minds of men. For the record, prejudices can kill and suspicion can destroy, and a thoughtless, frightened search for a scapegoat has a fallout all of its own for the children...the children yet unborn. And the pity of it is...that these things cannot be confined to...The Twilight Zone! --- Rod Serling   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Top

grasswire (2218 posts) Jan-17-03, 10:48 PM (ET) Reply to post #8 16. you can read a lot about them... ....and even see photos of most of them at Dan Moldea's GREAT web site. http://www.moldea.com/bushology6.html#watchdogs   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Top

The Backlash Cometh (1656 posts) Jan-17-03, 10:42 PM (ET) 9. What a great endorsement. Since CNN wants ratings, what a better endorsement than to pit Pitt against Aaron Brown. I hope the freepers continue fomenting this little sweeps winner-in-the making. I don't know why CNN wouldn't be up for it, since it would erase any doubt from anybody's mind that they're Liberal media. Republicans: God creates them, and the devil brings them together.   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Top

oasis (2150 posts) Jan-17-03, 10:42 PM (ET) 10. I don't remember CNN asking Gore Vidal his opinion on the war. They shy away from anyone that can nail it for the viewers. Maybe they can have DFU debate Dee Dee Myers since a knuckledragger seems to have sway with them. BTW, I like Dee Dee but she's no heavyweight.   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Top

Lisa (5070 posts) Jan-17-03, 10:43 PM (ET) 11. any news organization that takes its direction from crackpots ... ... is going to regret it in the end. One of these days, this bragging Freeper will get them into a situation that will make them all look bad. (And I bet that, because he's feeling emboldened by his "success", that time will come sooner rather than later!)   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Top

CMT (1263 posts) Jan-17-03, 10:46 PM (ET) 14. your e-mail made clear your feelings for CNN and other media outlets which are using the war to boost ratings. You didn't say anything behind there backs that you didn't say in the e-mail. That freeper can go fuck himself--probably does.   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Top

Old and In the Way (4632 posts) Jan-17-03, 10:48 PM (ET) 15. The thought passed my mind that some of the FR readers here....(and there are many, I think) would run with it. But, on the whole, I'd take Will Pitt's body of writings and weigh against one Friday night thread. What's Doug in Upland ever written that's worth reading? Must have a pretty boring life to be snitching on a poster here....as if this is a private board. What a loooooooser! http://www.democraticunderground.com/cgi-bin/duforum/duboard.cgi?az=show_thread&om=2574&forum=DCForumID22   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Top

grasswire (2218 posts) Jan-17-03, 10:53 PM (ET) Reply to post #15 20. yes, a loser... ...his main claim to fame is writing song parodies. Here's the one about Will: Posted by doug from upland to Petronski On News/Activism 01/17/2003 6:49 PM PST #38 of 80 MIDI - YELLOW RIVER There's a guy who's a lunatic…..on the fringe, man, he is really sick Some medication might do the trick…William Rivers He's not voted for Kennedy…this is funny, you must agree He's in John Kerry's district, you see…William Rivers William Rivers, William Rivers…he's teaching our kids everyday William Rivers, William Rivers…he is a toon, what can we say Should he be in a padded room…it should be understood That's like asking do grizzlies crap out in the woods Foolish William Rivers He claims Reagan conceived a plan…the Beirut bombing had been a scam Through Ollie he sent the bomb to Iran…William Rivers He does not like our president…he's nuts, that is evident I laugh out loud when I'm hearing him vent…William Rivers William Rivers, William Rivers…he's teaching our kids each day Yes, William Rivers, William Rivers…he is a toon, what can we say Should he be in a padded room…it should be understood That's like asking do the grizzlies crap out in the woods Foolish William Rivers William Rivers, William Rivers…he's teaching our kids each day William Rivers, William Rivers…he's a toon, what can we say   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Top

HoosierDaddy (152 posts) Jan-18-03, 01:02 AM (ET) Reply to post #15 42. If Doug in Upland is in Upland, IN then his life is one huge orgasm of pathetic ugly boredom. Damn, that Upland is such a pathetic crossroads with a fundie university, Taylor U. On a par with Falwell's and Robertson's 'colleges'. Any sane person who ever went up there was bored out of his freaking skull after 15 minutes. A majority of the student body thinks flashlight tag is just too cool. Obviously, being in Upland has sent Doug over the dark edge into the abyss. TAX the RICH ! When Everybody does better, everybody does better. "A truly good person doesn't need to tell you what religion they practice, they LIVE it." -- chilly-willy "It's not always how many votes the voters cast, it's how many votes the counters count." --Boss Tweed.   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Top

kixot (648 posts) Jan-17-03, 10:48 PM (ET) 17. That whole message... reads like the writer was sitting at his keyboard wringing his hands with an orgasmic smile while playing the role of "rat informant". I mean, what's the big fucking deal? Why would CNN care if some guy doesn't like them in order to have them as a guest on the air? I mean, does this imply that the rat thinks that it's CNN's policy to only have beaming adulators on as guests? What fucking elementary school grade is this guy emotionally retarded at?   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Top

AP (6810 posts) Jan-17-03, 10:49 PM (ET) 18. It's cute how the freepers want to be DU so badly. LAST EDITED ON Jan-17-03 AT 10:54 PM (ET) Too bad they don't have two IQ points to rub together though. Has a freeper ever authored a published book (Regenery or anywhere else)? And if dozens of them call CNN about Pitt, it just confirms that Pitt has weight and his opinions reach a broad audience. There really is no such thing as bad publicity. They're such idiots.   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Top

grasswire (2218 posts) Jan-17-03, 10:55 PM (ET) Reply to post #18 21. well, if you count Barbara Olson.... ....she used to be a freeper, and she had two anti-Clinton books published. Hannity is allegedly a freeper, and also Peggy Noonan. Oh, and probably Coulter. But the rank and file are losers, like DFU.   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Top

AP (6810 posts) Jan-17-03, 11:06 PM (ET) Reply to post #21 27. What I mean is, has any poster from FreeRepublic ever risen up from the ranks of the posters to national prominence by writing a book? Has a person who got their start at FreeRepublic ever gotten as far as a call to a national anchor? Was Barbara Olson a poster with a day job like teaching who rose to the top just by telling the truth in a persuasive, intelligent and energetic way?   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Top

AdrianInOcala (730 posts) Jan-18-03, 02:28 AM (ET) Reply to post #27 45. Nah, if any '(in)famous' repugs are lurkers over there... It's only to make them feel that their nazi-like rhetoric is shared by the 'common man'. The sad reality is that the freepers are a definite minority in their beliefs. Adrian Ocala, Florida DU Moderator Image Image   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Top

Jones (159 posts) Jan-17-03, 11:03 PM (ET) Reply to post #18 25. proof of the "liberal media" ;) im sure a boatload of hate filled screeds have been penned by that bunch   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Top

oasis (2150 posts) Jan-17-03, 10:57 PM (ET) 22. "Great moments in Journalism" Aaron Brown is interviewing a chef in studio. They're making a big deal over the chef's $50 burger Brown ate earlier in the day.   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Top

grasswire (2218 posts) Jan-17-03, 11:01 PM (ET) Reply to post #22 23. DFU from an earlier thread Here's what he wrote: To: Petronski; TLBSHOW I sent a warning e-mail to Aaron Brown with some of Pitt's statements. He has a paper trail with a plethora of amazingly stupid statements. Also --- please phone at 8:00 AM Eastern tomorrow morning to warn them -- 404.827.2600.They particularly need to hear that Pitt has put in print that the bomb which killed our Marines in Beirut was sent to the Middle East by Reagan through Ollie North. 120 posted on 01/16/2003 8:56 PM PST by doug from upland (May the Clintons live their remaining days in orange jumpsuits) < Post Reply | Private Reply | To 73 | View Replies > http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/824119/posts?page=120#120   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Top

oasis (2150 posts) Jan-17-03, 11:12 PM (ET) Reply to post #23 30. Brown's people may be using DFU accusations for a convenient dodge. They have a mandate to drum up the war on CNN, not take on reasonable arguements for a peaceful solution.   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Top

5thGenDemocrat (3905 posts) Jan-18-03, 02:06 AM (ET) Reply to post #23 43. Eff it. As long as they spell the name right. One P. Two Ts. John Pitt. Will Pitt. "If my own politics show through as being slightly left of center, it would not be unfair to ask that it be remembered they were once far to the right of John Birch...(a)nd if it appears odd that a self-professed warrior is now pushing the line for peace (or at least a better way to resolve conflict), in fact I am only joining the ranks of MacArthur, Montgomery, Mountbatten, and scores of other retired soldiers who, with no vested interest in the industry of war, and with plenty of time to put their feet up and think, recognize that the stakes of war have grown too high to be a viable problem solver." -- Colonel David H. Hackworth   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Top

wildwww2 (390 posts) Jan-17-03, 11:25 PM (ET) Reply to post #22 36. Hell you could damn near buy a whole cow for $50.00! How am I supposed to be able to relate with someone who could spend 50 bucks on a hamburger. Hell if I get to buy two 50 buck video games in a year I feel lucky. What a freaking rub in everyones face attitude you can have. When your rich and can waste money like that. The dudes and dudettes that can eat those Burgers are voting for the Court Appointed Bozo`s Tax Cut for the Elite! I would say. Good thing my payroll taxes will pay for it. If I still continue to have a job. Reading of all the job loses in the News everyday. It is getting scary. Peace Wildman Al Gore is My President   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Top

Cocoa (1668 posts) Jan-18-03, 02:12 AM (ET) Reply to post #36 44. It's obscene Especially considering that CNN is watched all over the world, including poor countries where $50 US goes quite a ways for a large family. Image He may look like an idiot, and talk like an idiot, but don't let that fool you. He really is idiot. - Rufus T. Firefly   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Top

MIMStigator (120 posts) Jan-17-03, 11:02 PM (ET) 24. SIMPLE SOLUTION....... Find Doug From Upland's past lunatic posts at FR and send them to CNN.... They'll know better than to take the froot loop seriously.   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Top

Junkdrawer (1745 posts) Jan-17-03, 11:08 PM (ET) Reply to post #24 29. Good idea... My bet is that Freepers overloaded CNN's phone lines babbling about Will Pitt which CNN took as coming from DU et al. Add to that the actual DU emails, and the result is Brown calls Pitt to stop the noise. Someone should set them straight. The tools of conquest do not necessarily come with bombs and explosions and fallout. There are weapons that are simply thoughts, attitudes, prejudices - to be found only in the minds of men. For the record, prejudices can kill and suspicion can destroy, and a thoughtless, frightened search for a scapegoat has a fallout all of its own for the children...the children yet unborn. And the pity of it is...that these things cannot be confined to...The Twilight Zone! --- Rod Serling   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Top

NRK (222 posts) Jan-18-03, 00:47 AM (ET) Reply to post #29 41. I'll bet you're right. That does sound very plausible. And if so, someone owes Will an apology. *CoughAaronBrownCough*   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Top

PaDUer (249 posts) Jan-17-03, 11:40 PM (ET) Reply to post #24 39. Here's hisDFU posts from freakville http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/site/user-posts?id=226 Remember when you get to the bottom of the page, "click to show more" for the rest of his/her posts.   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Top

obeah (861 posts) Jan-17-03, 11:03 PM (ET) 26. Freeper logic strikes again I like the accusation that Will took his website offline so nobody could check up on what he'd been writing. He's a prolific poster on several websites and has had a book published, but he doesn't want anyone to know what he's written. Makes perfect sense! Proud Member of the Grassy Knoll Society   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Top

joshcryer (1015 posts) Jan-17-03, 11:07 PM (ET) 28. “Behind CNNs back”? Hello? It was a public post on a public messageboard. Can't be any more forthright than that. Re-elect Gore in '04! I'm a green bus Democrat.   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Top

Cronus (1277 posts) Jan-17-03, 11:14 PM (ET) 31. Was it the Freeper or Will who poisoned the well? Disclaimer: I'm an unabashed liberal. Did the Freeper quote Will Pitt inaccurately? Did he make up lies or what? Or did he merely point them to Mr. Pitt's own writings? Was Mr. Pitt posturing as unbiased? I don't think so, but he certainly didn't mention that he was a lefty, did he? So, lacking evidence to the contrary, I fail to see that the Freeper did anything wrong or illegal. Although it may have appeared to some here as a low blow, perhaps some on FR might claim it to have been a good shot on the chin. Did Mr. Pitt really take down his own web site to hide his writings? I doubt it since they are all on the record at http://truthout.com/ and here, among other places. So perhaps I would have an issue with that, unless Mr. Pitt did do that - only he can say, although, again, I doubt it. I'll pass on the mind reading. In any case, as far as I can tell from the post above, Mr. Pitt was hoisted by his own petard. That's something every writer worth his salt knows will happen to him. Mr. Pitt knows what he says is on the record. And as a writer he must stand by, or refute, his own record. Which is really why I took him to task on his "I can't forgive Clinton for the BJ" thread - I saw that as posturing to try to balance his record which is way biased to the left. That kind of tactic - bash the left to garner some "balance points" is exactly what media whores do, to be blunt. However, we would do no less if the guy who runs Free Republic were trying to gain access to a media outlet and was not revealing his own partisanship. Pot, kettle, black. You know the story. "...political leaders need not trouble themselves very much with reality provided that their performances consistently generate a sense of versimilitude." — Neil Postman (Amusing Ourselves to Death) Visit My Favorite Web Sites Progressive buttons —http://brainbuttons.com/ Political Satire —http://bushspeaks.com/   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Top

sitkadem (215 posts) Jan-17-03, 11:15 PM (ET) 32. I dont think they will take it that seriously Just my opinion. At least CNN is covering the protests Remember, there are tons of freepers reading our every word, and what you say here could be a liability later. Dean in '04! A proud progressive, liberal, Democrat, environmentalist and Alaskan.   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Top

KoKo01 (6669 posts) Jan-17-03, 11:15 PM (ET) 33. We've had our differences, but on this YOU ARE CORRECT! Given the Freeper stuff (and I've not been over to their boards unless something has been posted here and then I've not stayed) it seems they "poisened the well" for you at 5:28 this p.m. So, I'm thinking if CNN listens to Free Republic before they talk to you then the Media is worse "in the tank" than even I thought. You were correct in your effort, imho. And you know that I wouldn't say this if I didn't think so. This whole back and forth with Brown has been an "eyeopener" for many of us here on DU who still had a glimmer of hope that mainstream media cared what the hell we thought. All those e-mails I've sent that don't even get an e-mail form "thank you for your comments we are forwarding........blah, blah, blah..." all go into a dumpster!! In the "Old DAYS" they USED TO CARE ABOUT VIEWERS! GONE, DEAD! NOW WE KNOW.. Sorry you had to be the "messenger." Doesn't mean I and others will give up mailing our comments on their "whoring" but it does help us understand that we shouldn't expect anything, but we have to do it. Look forward to hearing from you on Pacifica, Will, when I get back from the peace march in Durham, NC, that I'm going to! We will all be together in SPIRIT TOMORROW!!!! PEACE!   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Top

Code_Name_D (1199 posts) Jan-17-03, 11:18 PM (ET) 34. Smear asults taking place. It seams that smear asults is also a way of controling the meadia. Intresting. ( ________Iraq doesn't have WMD!________ ) ( Bush is a liar, and is making this up! ) ( _______Bush only wants the oil!_______ ) __/\/\__000 O 000000 By order of the Department of Homeland Security _(_¬ ¬)_. o000000000 the above thought has been censored. \__\/__/ The Wizards of Money at http://wizardsofmoney.org/   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Top

oasis (2150 posts) Jan-17-03, 11:25 PM (ET) 35. MSNBC's Donahue doesn't allow DFU type "book burners" to influence his programing. Thank God for the few journalists remaining on the airwaves.   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Top

flush_bush (985 posts) Jan-17-03, 11:28 PM (ET) Reply to post #35 37. i know what the DF stands for in DFU dumb f*ck hey freepers you are nothing but human garbage Wouldn't it be nice if just once, on some issue, the Bush administration came up with a plan that didn't involve weakened environmental protection, financial breaks for wealthy individuals and corporations and reduced public oversight? -- Princeton economist and New York Times columnist Paul Krugman I think it would be a good idea. -- Gandhi, when asked what he thought of Western civilization   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Top

grasswire (2218 posts) Jan-17-03, 11:39 PM (ET) Reply to post #37 38. here's more from DFU LAST EDITED ON Jan-17-03 AT 11:39 PM (ET) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- To: Petronski Aaron Brown gets into work today at 2:00PM Eastern. He needs to hear from us at the NY office -- 212.714.7800. The key word to use when talking about Pitt is "lunatic." 149 posted on 01/17/2003 7:27 AM PST by doug from upland (May the Clintons live their remaining days in orange jumpsuits) < Post Reply | Private Reply | To 73 | View Replies > To: TLBSHOW Please make the call to the show. 154 posted on 01/17/2003 12:58 PM PST by doug from upland (May the Clintons live their remaining days in orange jumpsuits) < Post Reply | Private Reply | To 152 | View Replies > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- To: TLBSHOW Make the call. He has claimed to have a half hour discussion with the producer and they are considering putting him on the air. 155 posted on 01/17/2003 1:02 PM PST by doug from upland (May the Clintons live their remaining days in orange jumpsuits) < Post Reply | Private Reply | To 152 | View Replies > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- To: doug from upland OK I will! 157 posted on 01/17/2003 2:17 PM PST by TLBSHOW < Post Reply | Private Reply | To 155 | View Replies >   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Top

grasswire (2218 posts) Jan-18-03, 00:03 AM (ET) Reply to post #38 40. a regular pervert DFU SONG: Pretty Women (naked women) 1-15-03 DFU SONG PARODIES | 1-2003 | Lyrics, Doug from Upland Posted on 01/15/2003 9:39 AM PST by doug from upland MIDI - PRETTY WOMAN Naked women…as you're protesting Naked women…I gotta say one thing Naked women…Upland is a friendly town To pull your tops and pants down Naked women…winter's mild here Naked women…and the sky is clear Naked women…here on Euclid Avenue It is such a pretty view Naked women…we'll await You'll find your trip will be great We'll be gracious and we all will wave We'll have coffee if you like Come ride naked on my bike Upland men have said they will behave…we'll behave How exciting…we'll have such fun Tell us what you need…and it is done Naked women…did you drive or fly Naked women…no need to be shy Naked women…hello, honeys, here I am Right here I just charged up my Sony Cam Oh, dear Did someone play a joke on me? I don't think I like what I see I'm feeling ill Lady, don't pull your pants down Yuk…I'm getting out of town Go back… naked women   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Top

Gman (784 posts) Jan-18-03, 04:05 AM (ET) 46. What about Crossfire? Carville and Begala both seem to call their own shots.   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Top

BillCart (14 posts) Jan-18-03, 05:05 AM (ET) Reply to post #46 47. Unfortunatly LAST EDITED ON Jan-18-03 AT 05:06 AM (ET) Looking at the last sweeps, nobodies watchin' Although I like James and Paul, the show has turned into a shouting match, with 3 people screamin' at the same time. I find it hard to believe anybody can enjoy a show where 3 or 4 people talk at the same time ....and nobody really gets their point across.   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Top

TheBigGuy (264 posts) Jan-19-03, 00:21 AM (ET) 49. this sounds incredibly childish and nutjob-ish. Those poor folks at CNN (& other media outlets) probably have to put up with alot of this wingnut stuff. "...When the going gets wierd, the wierd turn pro..." --HST.   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Top

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