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AP (6748 posts) Click to EMail AP Click to send private message to AP Click to view user profile Click to check IP address of the poster Click to add this poster to your Friend List
Jan-11-03, 11:13 AM (ET)
Hope vs Fear. Democrat vs Republican.
Salesmen use a strategy to get their customers to buy things they don't really need. It's called fear. They try to create an urgency and talk about the dangers of not buying the product. People then buy things they don't need and accept the costs of doing so.

That's what Republicans do. And they do it with terror and the issue of national security.

Fear is how Hitler got Germans to accept fascism.

It's why FDR told us that there was nothing to fear but fear itself.

It's why Clinton was the boy from Hope.

Democrats need to look at the current crop of candidates and decide which one raises the issue of hope. Which one doesn't make fear his or her message. That Democrat that does this the best will be the one who wins in 2004.

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  Subject     Author     Message Date     ID  
 an important thought realpolitik Jan-11-03 1
 Like Dems don't ever appeal to emotions Liberal Classic Jan-11-03 2
   Fear isn't the only emotion. AP 01/11/2003 3
       As far as I'm concerned... Liberal Classic 01/11/2003 5
           What fears did Clinton appeal to? AP 01/11/2003 7
 I have this on a bumpersticker... Babette Jan-11-03 4
   I live in the low Sierra Foothills of California, chaumont58 01/11/2003 6
 Hey AP, you are quoted at the Media Horse. Nice Job! Dudley_DUright Jan-13-03 8
 I agree........... Win2004 Jan-13-03 9

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realpolitik Donating Member (341 posts) Click to EMail realpolitik Click to send private message to realpolitik Click to view user profile Click to check IP address of the poster Click to add this poster to your Friend List
Jan-11-03, 11:20 AM (ET)
1. an important thought
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Liberal Classic (417 posts) Click to EMail Liberal%20Classic Click to send private message to Liberal%20Classic Click to view user profile Click to check IP address of the poster Click to add this poster to your Friend List
Jan-11-03, 11:23 AM (ET)
2. Like Dems don't ever appeal to emotions
For the children!
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AP (6748 posts) Click to EMail AP Click to send private message to AP Click to view user profile Click to check IP address of the poster Click to add this poster to your Friend List
Jan-11-03, 11:28 AM (ET)
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3. Fear isn't the only emotion.
The Democrats did try to use fear a little bit in 2002 -- with social security and old people.

However, no Democrat is ever going to be able to out-terrify a Republican. That's why they have to appeal to hope, and a sense that we can progress towards a better tomorrow by working and thinking hard.

And if you want to see a Democrat appeal to emotions, just read the speeches of JFK. However, the emotions he appealed to were all the best ones. Compassion, justice, patriotism and community.

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Liberal Classic (417 posts) Click to EMail Liberal%20Classic Click to send private message to Liberal%20Classic Click to view user profile Click to check IP address of the poster Click to add this poster to your Friend List
Jan-11-03, 11:35 AM (ET)
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5. As far as I'm concerned...
The practice of politics is to bamboozle as many people as possible to get your guy elected. Maybe I'm a bit cynical, but I don't think either party appeals to the best in people. Republicans appeal to the fear surrounding foreign powers, Democrat appeal to the fear surrounding war, both appeal to fear surrounding illegal drug use, etc. Elections are a contest of hyperbole.
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AP (6748 posts) Click to EMail AP Click to send private message to AP Click to view user profile Click to check IP address of the poster Click to add this poster to your Friend List
Jan-11-03, 01:03 PM (ET)
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7. What fears did Clinton appeal to?
I'm hard pressed to think of one.

Don't stop thinking about tomorrow. Don't be afraid of tomorrow. Boy from Hope. Those were his messages and they won big. Twice.

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Babette Donating Member (569 posts) Click to EMail Babette Click to send private message to Babette Click to view user profile Click to check IP address of the poster Click to add this poster to your Friend List
Jan-11-03, 11:32 AM (ET)
4. I have this on a bumpersticker...
It says "Liberals vote their hope. Conservatives vote their fear."

Haven't put it on my car yet- I'm afraid that rural East Texas is not the place to be seen with it.

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chaumont58 Donating Member (1046 posts) Click to EMail chaumont58 Click to send private message to chaumont58 Click to view user profile Click to check IP address of the poster Click to add this poster to your Friend List
Jan-11-03, 12:43 PM (ET)
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6. I live in the low Sierra Foothills of California,
Bush country in more ways than one, and I don't openly display my Democratic feelings, either. Self protection.
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Dudley_DUright Donating Member (828 posts) Click to EMail Dudley_DUright Click to send private message to Dudley_DUright Click to view user profile Click to check IP address of the poster Click to add this poster to your Friend List
Jan-13-03, 08:57 AM (ET)
8. Hey AP, you are quoted at the Media Horse. Nice Job!
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Sage observations from Democratic Underground:

Salesmen use a strategy to get their customers to buy things they don't really need. It's called fear. They try to create an urgency and talk about the dangers of not buying the product. People then buy things they don't need and accept the costs of doing so. That's what Republicans do. A nd they do it with terror and the issue of national security.

Fear is how Hitler got Germans to accept fascism. It's why FDR told us that there was nothing to fear but fear itself. It's why Clinton was the boy from Hope.

Democrats need to look at the current crop of candidates and decide which one raises the issue of hope. Which one doesn't make fear his or her message. That Democrat that does this the best will be the one who wins in 2004.

- AP

It would seem no message would resonate more with a public weary of war and economic pessimism than one of "hope."

That central theme, more than ever before, would promise an end to the relentless economic deterioration and warmongering/exploitation of the Bush regime that have zapped our nation's optimism for the future.

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Win2004 (196 posts) Click to EMail Win2004 Click to send private message to Win2004 Click to view user profile Click to check IP address of the poster Click to add this poster to your Friend List
Jan-13-03, 08:56 PM (ET)
9. I agree...........
I agree. Dems must nominate someone who gives hope and inspires, particularly with young people. We cannot nominate a grim old grisled gas bag. Fresh faces are the future. Be new or die. All of our greatest Presidents have been quick studies, fast learners. This is not about resumes. This is about leading the next generation into an era of social justice, peace, and prosperity.
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