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J_Lo (433 posts) Click to EMail J_Lo Click to send private message to J_Lo Click to view user profile Click to check IP address of the poster
Aug-16-02, 06:19 PM (ET)
How Many Polish Americans on the DU?
usually a loyal Democratic voting bloc.

Friede den Hütten! Krieg den Palästen!
...Georg Buchner, Der Hessiche Landbote, 1834

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 Jak sie masz? MiamiMark Aug-16-02 1
   So thats howya spell that! (1/2 Polish) J_Lo 08/16/2002 12
       Milwaukee Avenue? XNASA 08/16/2002 14
           Cragin J_Lo 08/17/2002 34
   bardzo dobrze! lanlady 08/17/2002 31
 (raises half a hand) thebigidea Aug-16-02 2
   one-quarter polish blindersoff 08/16/2002 3
 I'm Lithuanian-American CO Liberal Aug-16-02 4
   ever catch any of Jonas Mekas' stuff? thebigidea 08/16/2002 5
   They've hated each other for centuries Susang 08/17/2002 16
       A Famous Lithuanian-American .... Benny Kublesky CO Liberal 08/17/2002 19
           Wow, I knew he was Lithuanian Susang 08/17/2002 22
               There is a polish/lithuanian resteruant in Dayton J_Lo 08/17/2002 36
           No shit?! J_Lo 08/17/2002 35
 Here! jpak Aug-16-02 6
 Yes (and possibly no) 5thGenDemocrat Aug-16-02 7
 Do Jews count? latebloomer Aug-16-02 8
   You got it 5thGenDemocrat 08/16/2002 10
   Ditto Finder 08/16/2002 11
 addendum thebigidea Aug-16-02 9
 Between 1/4 & 3/8ths Polish. XNASA Aug-16-02 13
   Yeah -- the Polish parish in the south end of Bay City 5thGenDemocrat 08/17/2002 24
 sorta.... ma21385 Aug-16-02 15
 Kicking. XNASA Aug-17-02 17
   This Lithuanian LOVES Kielbasa!!!! CO Liberal 08/17/2002 21
       That sounded dirty! Susang 08/17/2002 23
       White Kielbasa on Easter Finder 08/17/2002 29
 Would that be us real shiny ones? trof Aug-17-02 18
 Where's my pierogis? Bushfire Aug-17-02 20
 Polish and Proud!!!!!!! cap Aug-17-02 25
   the history of my family is the rise of Polish Democrats! cap 08/17/2002 27
       Awesome summary and the real American story Finder 08/17/2002 28
       Good tale...mine is not so impressive, but.. J_Lo 08/17/2002 37
 I'm not but I did spend 5 years in Krakow. JanMichael Aug-17-02 26
 I am a mongrel that is one-quarter Polish ZombyWoof Aug-17-02 30
 I polish Americans all the time Jonte_1979 Aug-17-02 32
 I'm not but my sister is... Maine Mary Aug-17-02 33
 greatgrandmotheroftriplets' greatauntoftriplets Aug-17-02 38
 Mongrel who's Polish on dad's side fed2dneck Aug-17-02 39

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MiamiMark (539 posts) Click to EMail MiamiMark Click to send private message to MiamiMark Click to view user profile Click to check IP address of the poster
Aug-16-02, 06:21 PM (ET)
1. Jak sie masz?

"If this were a dictatorship, it'd be a heck of a lot easier, just so
long as I'm the dictator." - GW Bush 12/18/2000.

The people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy.
All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the
peacemakers for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works
the same in any country.”~ Herman Goering (second in command to Adolph
Hitler) at the Nuremberg Trial

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J_Lo (433 posts) Click to EMail J_Lo Click to send private message to J_Lo Click to view user profile Click to check IP address of the poster
Aug-16-02, 10:27 PM (ET)
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12. So thats howya spell that! (1/2 Polish)
I know these polish phrases from growing up in the old neighborhood but never knew how to spell them.

Im half polish, but grew up in a polish neighborhood in Chicago where the population was 30% foreign born (and 99% democrat)...so...

Friede den Hütten! Krieg den Palästen!
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XNASA Donating Member (1031 posts) Click to EMail XNASA Click to send private message to XNASA Click to view user profile Click to check IP address of the poster
Aug-16-02, 10:34 PM (ET)
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14. Milwaukee Avenue?
We used to live near Pulaski & Belmont.

Did I guess correctly, J_Lo?

If you can do a half-assed job of anything, you're a one-eyed man in a kingdom of the blind. - Kurt Vonnegut

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J_Lo (433 posts) Click to EMail J_Lo Click to send private message to J_Lo Click to view user profile Click to check IP address of the poster
Aug-17-02, 07:29 PM (ET)
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34. Cragin
LAST EDITED ON Aug-17-02 AT 07:34 PM (ET)

..the area Between Grand & Fullerton, near Laramie..St Stans B&M parish.

I know where Pulaski & Belmont is...I think that was Avondale? My grandparents lived in that area too, & my aunt was born there..that St Hyancinth parish. They also lived in Portage Park.

But we had relatives who lived in Bucktown (I recall my dad calling Milwaulkee "Polish Broadway", and an uncle who lived on Noble Street, and another who lived on Blackhawk Ave).

Also, when my dad was a kid he told me about how when he visting some relatives who lived near St. John Cantius he found a body in the alley! (this was in the 1930s).

But my expereince was growing up in Cragin...and the elections...we where very loyal Democrats and my dad did some political work for the machine when he was younger, so he was very much interested in politics.

Friede den Hütten! Krieg den Palästen!
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lanlady (2218 posts) Click to EMail lanlady Click to send private message to lanlady Click to view user profile Click to check IP address of the poster
Aug-17-02, 04:46 PM (ET)
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31. bardzo dobrze!
A jak sie pan (pani?) ma? Moj ojciec byl Polakiem.

(Sorry, don't know where to find Polish diacriticals on my keyboard!)

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thebigidea (1533 posts) Click to EMail thebigidea Click to send private message to thebigidea Click to view user profile Click to check IP address of the poster
Aug-16-02, 06:23 PM (ET)
2. (raises half a hand)
half Cubano, half Polish.

Don't know much Polish, though - errr, Krupnick?

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blindersoff (17 posts) Click to EMail blindersoff Click to send private message to blindersoff Click to view user profile Click to check IP address of the poster
Aug-16-02, 06:26 PM (ET)
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3. one-quarter polish

but mostly german
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CO Liberal (5768 posts) Click to EMail CO%20Liberal Click to send private message to CO%20Liberal Click to view user profile Click to check IP address of the poster
Aug-16-02, 06:26 PM (ET)
4. I'm Lithuanian-American
Lithuania is right next door to Poland........

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thebigidea (1533 posts) Click to EMail thebigidea Click to send private message to thebigidea Click to view user profile Click to check IP address of the poster
Aug-16-02, 06:30 PM (ET)
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5. ever catch any of Jonas Mekas' stuff?
Incredible guy - "dean" of low budget underground film, presides over Anthology Film Archives in NYC - crazy filmmaker, cranky Lithuanian-poet, marvelous all-round fellow.

He made some fascinating films about Lithuanian "displaced persons" - and called one of my flix "highly neurotic" in a delightful accent. A corduroy-clad cad, to be sure!

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Susang Donating Member (1390 posts) Click to EMail Susang Click to send private message to Susang Click to view user profile Click to check IP address of the poster
Aug-17-02, 02:23 AM (ET)
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16. They've hated each other for centuries
LAST EDITED ON Aug-17-02 AT 02:25 AM (ET)

I'm Polish and Lithuanian. My mom's Lithuanian and my dad's Polish. Both sets of grandparents were fresh from the old country. My aunt Stephanie is still trying toget her family's land back that was confiscated when the Soviets took over. There is serious animosity between the two countries, mostly on the Lithuanian side. I read a book on the history of the conflict and it seems that the two countries at one point actually had an alliance and even shared royalty.

When my mom and dad first started dating, both of their families tried to talk them out of it. My mom's family called dad "that polack" and gave my mom a really hard time. My mom, being Lithuanian, didn't put up with that shit and married him. They just had their 44th anniversary.

On edit: Mom's surname was Sirwaitis and Dad's is Gorski

For in truth, it's the beginning of
nothing
And nothing has changed
Everything has changed
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CO Liberal (5768 posts) Click to EMail CO%20Liberal Click to send private message to CO%20Liberal Click to view user profile Click to check IP address of the poster
Aug-17-02, 12:15 PM (ET)
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19. A Famous Lithuanian-American .... Benny Kublesky
Who went by the stage name Jack Benny.

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Susang Donating Member (1390 posts) Click to EMail Susang Click to send private message to Susang Click to view user profile Click to check IP address of the poster
Aug-17-02, 12:26 PM (ET)
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22. Wow, I knew he was Lithuanian
I had no idea he was Polish as well. There are so few of us hybrids out there. You'd think there'd be a lot more here in Chicago with the massive Polish and Lithuanian communities, but I rarely meet any. Wouldn't that be a great combination restaurant theme? I'd get soooo fat!

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J_Lo (433 posts) Click to EMail J_Lo Click to send private message to J_Lo Click to view user profile Click to check IP address of the poster
Aug-17-02, 07:39 PM (ET)
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36. There is a polish/lithuanian resteruant in Dayton
Amber Rose...on the North Side. The people who run it are of Lithuanian ancestry, but also serve Polish food. Goof mix. Also, eastern European beer is served.

Dayton used to have a Polish, Lithuanian, and Hungarian neighborhood in North Dayton, but the old timers moved out and the place has turned redneck. The ethnics have all assimilated here...the only thing left are the old parish churches.

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J_Lo (433 posts) Click to EMail J_Lo Click to send private message to J_Lo Click to view user profile Click to check IP address of the poster
Aug-17-02, 07:36 PM (ET)
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35. No shit?!
Jack Benny! Cool!

Friede den Hütten! Krieg den Palästen!
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jpak Donating Member (614 posts) Click to EMail jpak Click to send private message to jpak Click to view user profile Click to check IP address of the poster
Aug-16-02, 09:00 PM (ET)
6. Here!
Actually more French Canadian than anything else, but still have the namesake...
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5thGenDemocrat Donating Member (3117 posts) Click to EMail 5thGenDemocrat Click to send private message to 5thGenDemocrat Click to view user profile Click to check IP address of the poster
Aug-16-02, 09:02 PM (ET)
7. Yes (and possibly no)
Both of my greatgrandparents Elias (2ndGenDem) were from Nicolai, Upper Silesia (near Gliewitz) -- now Mikolow, Poland.
She always said they were German, he always said they were Polish. They came to the US around 1875.
In that part of the world, the families had certainly been Austrian and possibly Lithuanian, too -- depending on when you asked.
Grandgrandpa was a Democratic ward boss in the south end of Bay City, MI in the 1890s and early 1900s. He sponsored the immigration of many Silesian settlers and the south end still has lots of Polish and German names today. All of the Poles and about half of the Germans still vote D.
John
But it's a union town and a heavily Catholic town, too. And it has (as I remember) more bars per capita than any other city in the state (for sure) and possibly the country.
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latebloomer (213 posts) Click to EMail latebloomer Click to send private message to latebloomer Click to view user profile Click to check IP address of the poster
Aug-16-02, 09:07 PM (ET)
8. Do Jews count?
Half Polish Jew, half Irish Catholic.
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5thGenDemocrat Donating Member (3117 posts) Click to EMail 5thGenDemocrat Click to send private message to 5thGenDemocrat Click to view user profile Click to check IP address of the poster
Aug-16-02, 09:21 PM (ET)
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10. You got it
LAST EDITED ON Aug-16-02 AT 09:33 PM (ET)

Ggrandma's maiden name was von Gemula and ggrandpa was Augustus (Gus) Jacob Elias, and family history says his family had been Jewish and he had converted to Catholicism pretty much out of self-preservation in the face of one of those anti-Semitic snits our Teutonic cousins got into every so often.
Her family had been financially comfortable, if not wealthy -- and he was a tradesman (watchmaker and jeweler). They met, by the way, in Jackson, Michigan -- they hadn't known each other in the Old World.
The Eliases had 13 children, one of whom -- their seventh, my grandmother, Angela (3rdGenDem) married a Scot-Irish Presbyterian named William King Garrett (also 3rdGenDem) -- late of Mexico, Kentucky.
Their child, my mom (4thGenDem) was named Paula Mary Garrett. Mom was part Irish (but not of an Irish Catholic) and part Polish (but maybe not of a Polish Jew). And, although both the ggrandparents were Catholic when they came to America, Upper Silesia was NOT a particularly Catholic part of Germany.
John
Don't even get me started on dad's side of the family.

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Finder (764 posts) Click to EMail Finder Click to send private message to Finder Click to view user profile Click to check IP address of the poster
Aug-16-02, 09:22 PM (ET)
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11. Ditto
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thebigidea (1533 posts) Click to EMail thebigidea Click to send private message to thebigidea Click to view user profile Click to check IP address of the poster
Aug-16-02, 09:11 PM (ET)
9. addendum
LAST EDITED ON Aug-16-02 AT 09:13 PM (ET)

I've recently been reading up a lot more about Poland - my father never really talked about it, but the stories he's just getting around to telling are fascinating - his father fought the Nazis, got tossed in the camps, relatives were gassed, then after the war he got in trouble again around 1948 for fighting the Communists...

One of the most touching stories was about their putting on "Hamlet" inside the camp, using improvised costumes & props - such a beautiful side of humanity... as opposed to the Nazi bastards that kept them there!

Two of them managed to escape, and lived on the run in the German countryside for over 8 months - until the war ended, stealing chickens & milk from farmers to stay alive.

(my screenwriter brain has that pegged as a movie, alright. Hey! You with the pencil - stop writing that down!)

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XNASA Donating Member (1031 posts) Click to EMail XNASA Click to send private message to XNASA Click to view user profile Click to check IP address of the poster
Aug-16-02, 10:32 PM (ET)
13. Between 1/4 & 3/8ths Polish.
But, I grew up in a Polish-Catholic neighborhood. Almost everyone else had a Polish last name. Our parish was named St. Stanislaus (St. Stan's). It's also where I attended grade school. I took accordian lessons when I was 8.

So I'm almost completely Polish through osmosis.

Oddly, my wife is 75% Polish, but doesn't know nearly as much as I do about Polish food & tradition as I because she grew up in a rural area with not a lot of other people of Polish descent.


If you can do a half-assed job of anything, you're a one-eyed man in a kingdom of the blind. - Kurt Vonnegut

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5thGenDemocrat Donating Member (3117 posts) Click to EMail 5thGenDemocrat Click to send private message to 5thGenDemocrat Click to view user profile Click to check IP address of the poster
Aug-17-02, 01:43 PM (ET)
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24. Yeah -- the Polish parish in the south end of Bay City
Is also called St. Stan's -- and they still have an huge Polish festival every year. For what it's worth, the German parish in that part of town (which the Elias' attended) is called St. Hyacinth.
John
Went to Saginaw Sacred Heart, which was mostly (say 90 percent) Mexican. The bishop had it torn down about eight or ten years ago because it wasn't generating enough money. Now, I'm back at St. Andrew's, where I once attended grade school -- but I still don't feel "at home" there.
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ma21385 (535 posts) Click to EMail ma21385 Click to send private message to ma21385 Click to view user profile Click to check IP address of the poster
Aug-16-02, 11:44 PM (ET)
15. sorta....
I'm a quarter Polish (my paternal grandfather was born in Poland, but then moved to Israel in the late 1930's). And then the other 3/4 is a weird mixture of a lot of other things

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XNASA Donating Member (1031 posts) Click to EMail XNASA Click to send private message to XNASA Click to view user profile Click to check IP address of the poster
Aug-17-02, 12:06 PM (ET)
17. Kicking.
This is the first Pol-Am thread on DU that I can remember, so I'm gonna kick it.

I'm thinking about making kiebasa, pierogi and cabbage tonight for dinner.

If you can do a half-assed job of anything, you're a one-eyed man in a kingdom of the blind. - Kurt Vonnegut

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Aug-17-02, 12:21 PM (ET)
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21. This Lithuanian LOVES Kielbasa!!!!
Especially kielbasa that's hand-made by a Polish butcher. My wife used to live in Old Bridge, NJ - there was a butcher shop on the same block as her parents' house where they make GREAT kielbasa. And every time my father-in-law goes back for a visit, he brings back some of Carl's kielbasa.

In fact, we just had some for dinner the other night.........

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Susang Donating Member (1390 posts) Click to EMail Susang Click to send private message to Susang Click to view user profile Click to check IP address of the poster
Aug-17-02, 12:27 PM (ET)
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23. That sounded dirty!
I like it!

For in truth, it's the beginning of
nothing
And nothing has changed
Everything has changed
-David Bowie

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Finder (764 posts) Click to EMail Finder Click to send private message to Finder Click to view user profile Click to check IP address of the poster
Aug-17-02, 02:56 PM (ET)
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29. White Kielbasa on Easter
MMMMM! I don't care for the red much unless it is in kapusta or Essem with some good homemade beans. The stuff they sell in the markets isn't even close. Now I am hungry and have to find a butcher. Growing up there were so many ethnic markets but not today.
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trof (556 posts) Click to EMail trof Click to send private message to trof Click to view user profile Click to check IP address of the poster
Aug-17-02, 12:13 PM (ET)
18. Would that be us real shiny ones?
I'm known for my polish.
If I bend my head down you can see your reflection.
trof

"You take the High road, and I'll take the Low. That way there'll be an adequate amount of real estate between us." -The Wisdom of Trof (his own self)
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Bushfire (83 posts) Click to EMail Bushfire Click to send private message to Bushfire Click to view user profile Click to check IP address of the poster
Aug-17-02, 12:18 PM (ET)
20. Where's my pierogis?
I'm quarter polish, and unfortunately have learned about pierogi's later in life as my family mostly served kielbasa, and sauerkraut but mostly relying on German dishes (my other 3/4%).

http://www.pierogi.com/what.cfm

Being a vegetarian, you can go nuts with a variety of pierogi's!

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cap (1492 posts) Click to EMail cap Click to send private message to cap Click to view user profile Click to check IP address of the poster
Aug-17-02, 02:17 PM (ET)
25. Polish and Proud!!!!!!!
Father's side from Wilno (Vilnius... my apologies to the Lithuanians. But this area has changed hands so many times in history). Mother's side from Zakopane.

I am Polish, Catholic, pro-union, liberal, and, by the Grace of God, DEMOCRAT!!!!

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cap (1492 posts) Click to EMail cap Click to send private message to cap Click to view user profile Click to check IP address of the poster
Aug-17-02, 02:37 PM (ET)
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27. the history of my family is the rise of Polish Democrats!
Grandfather came over from the old country at the turn of the century. He was drafted into the Russian army and deserted. Got picked up again and was sent to Siberia. Deserted again. Heard the soldiers were coming around again. So the family smuggled him out.

He worked in Germany for a while and then went to America. Spoke 5 languages: German, French, Russian, Polish, and English. Played the violin. Worked in the shoe mills in Brockton MA and then bought a farm during the great Depression (now worth over $1 million).

His son, my Dad, left the farm during the Great Depression. Worked as a laborer. Literally dug ditches in the frozen earth. Got drafted during WWII. Went to college on the GI bill. Finally got a PhD in Chemistry.

On my mother's side, Grandparents came over from the old country and worked in the textile mills in Pawtucket RI. Grandfather had an accident in the mill and lost his eye. No workers comp. Went to a doctor and had an operation to fix his eye. Bad news. The doctor operated on the wrong eye and left him totally blind. No trial lawyers. No medical malpractice. No health insurance. Lost his job. No work for the blind. No ADA legislation. No retraining.

Grandmother supported the family until she lost her job (the mills went South. 70% unemployment in Pawtucket). No laws about factory closing. No welfare. No unemployment. Family lost their house (it was almost paid off). Family went on the streets. Grandmother had a nervous breakdown and went to state hospital. (Support for Mental Health and Health Insurance, anyone????) Grandfather begged on the streets. No disability or worker retraining. Children went into foster care. Mother made to work at age 12 because her foster mother didn't think she was getting enough money from the state. Children split up. Finally, oldest brother reached majority age and slowly got the family back together again.

WWII happens. Boys get drafted. Boys go to college on GI bill. Boys get PhD. Girls supported their husbands as they went to college and then worked and brought up the kids.

My generation: 4 lawyers. 4 computer nerds. 2 stay at home Moms. All college educated. 1 Phillips Academy (Andover -- yup, same as the Kennedy's and Bush's) and Ivy League grad. 1 Carnegie Mellon grad in Computer Science. All due to Pell Grant Program.

Without the Democratic party, my family could not have achieved what we did. When I tell this story to any Republicans, they shut up. Family tragedies that could have been avoided. Legislation has been passed so that other families don't go through what my family did. Family triumphs made possible through enlightened support of the government because of the Democratic Party.

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Finder (764 posts) Click to EMail Finder Click to send private message to Finder Click to view user profile Click to check IP address of the poster
Aug-17-02, 02:50 PM (ET)
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28. Awesome summary and the real American story
So many similarities I wonder if we are related. I plan on sending my boys to Phillips too. Do you attend HT?
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J_Lo (433 posts) Click to EMail J_Lo Click to send private message to J_Lo Click to view user profile Click to check IP address of the poster
Aug-17-02, 07:46 PM (ET)
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37. Good tale...mine is not so impressive, but..
I'm the first to go to college, made possible by good wages (won thru unions) and student loans & grants (Democratic concept)and a state university (also a concept opposed by conservatives when it was first proposed back in the 19th century).

When I grew up we lived in the same two-flat as my grandparents, and I recall my grandmother & grandfather telling me horror storys about the Depression and "hoovervilles" and all that, and what a great man Franklin Roosevelt was. This family memory of the hard times and how the Demorcrats helped the working man is what keeps me voting Democratic.

A long memory is the best weapon.

Friede den Hütten! Krieg den Palästen!
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JanMichael (40 posts) Click to EMail JanMichael Click to send private message to JanMichael Click to view user profile Click to check IP address of the poster
Aug-17-02, 02:36 PM (ET)
26. I'm not but I did spend 5 years in Krakow.
And my stepfather's family is of Polish ancestory which gives me a half sister who has Polish ancestory as well.

It's a neat place to visit.

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Aug-17-02, 03:02 PM (ET)
30. I am a mongrel that is one-quarter Polish
My maternal grandmother's parents immigrated from Poland in 1912, and settled near Sheridan, Wyoming. My great-grandfather was a coal miner in the area, and secured his US citizenship within 10 years of settlement. We have the flag he received at Ellis Island, the flag he received at his citizenship ceremony, and even a copy of his 1921 IRS Form 1040, the first he filed after obtaining citizenship (they make the contemporary 1040EZ's look like calculus, lol). My grandmother grew up in a bilingual household, and stayed in touch with cousins and other relatives in Warsaw for years. My great-grandparents died before I was born, but my Mom has many good memories of them.

I have no idea what my great-grandparents' politics were. G-grandfather was a simple miner, living in a very sparsley populated area of the country, and raising a family.

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Jonte_1979 (733 posts) Click to EMail Jonte_1979 Click to send private message to Jonte_1979 Click to view user profile Click to check IP address of the poster
Aug-17-02, 05:40 PM (ET)
32. I polish Americans all the time
It makes them all clean and shiny. I like shiny happy people!

WELCOME BACK, SEAN REYNOLDS!

Also making an appearance as the bad polar bear poacher is the King of the White Men himself, Charlton Heston, who, according to industry buzz, attempted during filming to convert several of the unwashed natives to some bizarre cult -- mandating the worship of white men everywhere -- called "Republicanism."

-Mr Cranky commenting on the movie "Alaska"

Jonte_1979 - Leader of the Swedish chapter of The Grassy Knoll Society.

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Maine Mary (1096 posts) Click to EMail Maine%20Mary Click to send private message to Maine%20Mary Click to view user profile Click to check IP address of the poster
Aug-17-02, 07:25 PM (ET)
33. I'm not but my sister is...
"by injection" shall we say. She married a man whose parents came from Poland and he's fluent in both English and Polish.

My side of the family is nearly all Irish with a bit of German thrown in. So, as you can imagine, there are/were some drinkers.

The wedding therefore was kind of funny. My sister and her husband choose to honor both backgrounds with Irish and Polish food as well as Irish and Polish music. For some reason neither side intermingled very well at first...(perhaps because the drinking turned off some of the Polish side). There was no animosity or anything but certainly some aloofness.

Anyway, it was kind of fun to observe the differences. Most of the Irish music occured earlier during the reception but was rowdy and loud while the Polish side quietly watched and talked among themselves. But when the Polkas began it was if the Polish side awoke from the dead! They were dancing and having a great time. By the end of the evening my Irish side of the family were right in there with them (attempting) the Polkas. The Polish side seemed to find it rather endearing and finally the intermingling began. It turned out to be a great bonding thing in the end.

The Polish are great people with some really interesting traditions. So to those of you who are Polish Americans!

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greatauntoftriplets Donating Member (1469 posts) Click to EMail greatauntoftriplets Click to send private message to greatauntoftriplets Click to view user profile Click to check IP address of the poster
Aug-17-02, 07:48 PM (ET)
38. greatgrandmotheroftriplets'
caregiver (during the day -- I'm here at night and on weekends) is from Warsaw -- and she LOOOOOVES numbnuts. Doesn't understand why my mother and I can't stand the turd and think he stole the election. Unfortunately, she thinks he's the greatest pResident (my spelling, not hers) ever.

Yuck Bush!!!!

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fed2dneck Donating Member (2010 posts) Click to EMail fed2dneck Click to send private message to fed2dneck Click to view user profile Click to check IP address of the poster
Aug-17-02, 10:08 PM (ET)
39. Mongrel who's Polish on dad's side
1/2 Polish on Dad's side; on Mom's side, 1/4 Italian (the only grandparent I knew--my grandfather); 1/4 Jewish on her mom's side (does that make me Jewish?).....

If you have nothing to hide, then quit acting like you're hiding something!

Enron has 3000 subsidaries--3001 if you count the GOP!

Would you trust anyone who thinks it's OK to lie to you "under an infinite number of circumstances?" Republicans are counting on it.

Trickle-down economics: The rich get a golden parachute and give the rest of us a golden shower

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