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Stuckinthebush Donating Member (1860 posts) Click to EMail Stuckinthebush Click to send private message to Stuckinthebush Click to view user profile Click to check IP address of the poster Click to add this poster to your Friend List
Feb-02-03, 11:10 AM (ET)
September 11, 2001: A Pacifist Response
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A friend of mine who is a Presbyterian minister sent a hard copy of this article to me via mail the other day. I found it on the internet and thought DUers would enjoy this piece by Stanley Hauerwas, a theological ethics professor at Duke Divinity School.

It is a long article, so I give you a long snip.

After the first page, you must scroll to page 8 on Adobe Acrobat to continue the article.


http://www.opendoorcommunity.org/HospOct02.pdf

I want to write honestly about September 11, 2001. But it is not easy. Even now, some months after that horrible event, I find it hard to know what can be said or, perhaps more difficult, what should be said. Even more difficult, I am not sure for what or how I should pray. I am a Christian. I am a Christian pacifist. Being Christian and being a pacifist are not two things for me. I would not be a pacifist if I were not a Christian, and I find it hard to understand how one can be a Christian without being a pacifist. But what does a pacifist have to say in the face of terror? Pray for peace? I have no use for sentimentality.

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Yet I do know that much that has been said after September 11, 2001, has been false. In the first hours and days following the fall of the towers, there was a stunned silence. President Bush flew from one safe-haven to another, unsure what had or was still to happen. He was quite literally in the air, not quite sure where safety might be found on the ground. I wish he might have been able to maintain that posture, but he is the leader of the "free world". Something must be done. Something must be said. We must be in control. The silence must be shattered. He knew the American people must be comforted. Life must return to normal.

So he said, "We are at war." Magic words necessary to reclaim the everyday. War is such normalizing discourse. Americans know war. This is our Pearl Harbor. Life can return to normal. We are frightened, and ironically war makes us feel safe. The way to go on in the face of September 11, 2001, is to find someone to kill. Americans are, moreover, good at killing. We often fail to acknowledge how accomplished we are in the art of killing. Indeed we, the American people, have become masters of killing....

"During the election campaign Bush was delighted to be presented with a 'Billy Bass'...Jacques Chirac would open a vein rather than been seen with a singing plastic fish." - Ben MacIntyre, UK Times

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 hmm johan Feb-02-03 1
   My thoughts exactly Stuckinthebush 02/03/2003 2
 I'm not sure of what to think after reading it... IrateCitizen Feb-03-03 3
   I think you misread it, Chris gratuitous 02/03/2003 4
   Fellow UU and ex-Christian here Stuckinthebush 02/03/2003 5

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johan (515 posts) Click to EMail johan Click to send private message to johan Click to view user profile Click to check IP address of the poster Click to add this poster to your Friend List
Feb-02-03, 11:21 AM (ET)
1. hmm
good reading
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Stuckinthebush Donating Member (1860 posts) Click to EMail Stuckinthebush Click to send private message to Stuckinthebush Click to view user profile Click to check IP address of the poster Click to add this poster to your Friend List
Feb-03-03, 10:52 AM (ET)
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2. My thoughts exactly
Good reading, indeed. It is nice to hear a theologian actually tackle some tough philosophical issues surrounding 9/11.

"During the election campaign Bush was delighted to be presented with a 'Billy Bass'...Jacques Chirac would open a vein rather than been seen with a singing plastic fish." - Ben MacIntyre, UK Times

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IrateCitizen Donating Member (3497 posts) Click to EMail IrateCitizen Click to send private message to IrateCitizen Click to view user profile Click to check IP address of the poster Click to add this poster to your Friend List
Feb-03-03, 01:56 PM (ET)
3. I'm not sure of what to think after reading it...
I don't necessarily agree with the first part:

I am a Christian. I am a Christian pacifist. Being Christian and being a pacifist are not two things for me. I would not be a pacifist if I were not a Christian, and I find it hard to understand how one can be a Christian without being a pacifist.

Especially the part about, "I would not be a pacifist if I were not a Christian,...." I actually became a pacifist AFTER I left mainstream Christianity and embraced Unitarian Universalism. Freed from the dogma of the deification cult surrounding Christ that was mainstream Christianity, I was more able to focus on his LIFE and MINISTRY and what he actually taught.

I do agree with the spirit, however, if not necessarily the letter of what the author says regarding the necessity of his pacifism. By coming to realize the interconnectedness of all life here on earth, I came to realize also that by not vocally and physically objecting to the killing of others, I was acquiescing in fact to the killing of a small part of myself.

All in all, a very thought-provoking article, even if it did not completely mesh with my spiritual push toward pacifism.

Peace?
Chris Harrison
Mt. Kisco, NY

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Feb-03-03, 03:37 PM (ET)
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4. I think you misread it, Chris
Hauerwas is saying that his pacifist outlook is so bound up with his Christian walk that the two are inseparable. That he could not imagine being a Christian without being a pacifist. This doesn't exclude going the other way down that street: Namely, how to be a pacifist without being a Christian.

When Hauerwas says he can't imagine being a Christian without it leading inevitably to being a pacifist, that in no way rules out being a pacifist without being a Christian. The challenge Hauerwas is making is not to those whose pacifist stance isn't based on Christianity, but rather those who profess to be Christian without a consideration of pacifism.

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Stuckinthebush Donating Member (1860 posts) Click to EMail Stuckinthebush Click to send private message to Stuckinthebush Click to view user profile Click to check IP address of the poster Click to add this poster to your Friend List
Feb-03-03, 03:42 PM (ET)
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5. Fellow UU and ex-Christian here
I understand your point. My experience with theologians - and I mean real theologians, not the Falwell and Robertson sort - makes me think that the Christian philosophers/theologians are the ones who understand Christianity the best. I think Dr. Hauerwas was being provocative by stating that he doesn't see how one can not be a pacifist while proclaming Christianity. Many in theological circles seem to lament the decline of an understanding of the Christian doctrine. This decline has been enhanced by the fast food religious experience of most fundy churches and now many mainstream churches. The theologians try to make people think about hard issues. This is one.

My friend who sent this article to me has a small, rural church. He constantly tells me bang-the-head-against-the-wall stories of how he has to work with members who just don't get it. He had a woman get up and leave the other day because of his message of peace in this whole Iraq mess. Can you imagine that? Needless to say, the theologians have a difficult task ahead of them.


"During the election campaign Bush was delighted to be presented with a 'Billy Bass'...Jacques Chirac would open a vein rather than been seen with a singing plastic fish." - Ben MacIntyre, UK Times

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