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0|0|What do you want to tell the DNC%3F|Eloriel||22:00:43|06/14/2002|Next weekend I%27m attending the DNC Campaign 101%2F201 training in Birmingham%2C AL. Ever since I found out about the training and called about it yesterday%2C I%27ve been thinking of how I could also use the opportunity to get a message to the DNC. The agenda is pretty full%2C but I did hit on this idea%3A%0D%0A%0D%0APlease post your messages to the DNC here. Don%27t respond to others posts%2C please%2C unless it%27s to elaborate and add your own thoughts%2C or to bump the thread. %5Bb%5DPLEASE HELP ME KEEP THE THREAD BUMPED%5B%2Fb%5D and on page 1 so everyone has a chance to see it and add their thoughts. %0D%0A%0D%0AAlso%2C try not to make it too lengthy -- I know we have fabulous researchers here with armloads of information they%27d like to share with DNC%2C but in that case%2C link to an overall website or two%2C or a thread on DU%2C and include a brief synopsis of what the information is you want them to see. But THIS thread is primarily for YOUR personal message to the DNC. Personally%2C I%27d also prefer that people be respectful and thoughtful%2C rather than take the opportunity to vent%2C however much we might like to %28and believe me%2C I have a few choice words I%27d sometimes like to share with them too%21%29. %3B-%29 %0D%0A%0D%0ASo%2C what do YOU want to tell the DNC%3F%0D%0A%0D%0ATIA%2C%0D%0A%0D%0AEloriel%0D%0A%0D%0A%5Bfont color%3D%22%23333333%22 size%3D%221%22 face%3D%22Verdana%22%5DPower concedes nothing without a demand. It never had and never will. -- Frederick Douglas%5B%2Ffont%5D
1|1|Stop being cowards|Walt Starr||22:03:36|06/14/2002|%27nuff said%0D%0A%0D%0A%5Bfont color%3D%22%23333333%22 size%3D%221%22 face%3D%22Verdana%22%5D%3Atinfoilhat%3A%0D%0A%0D%0A%5Bb%5DCompetency Matters%5B%2Fb%5D%0D%0A%0D%0AProud member of the Grassy Knoll Society%0D%0A%5Bi%5Dsince 1963%5B%2Fi%5D%0D%0A%5B%2Ffont%5D|0
2|1|Quit acting like %22soft%2C fuzzy%22 republicans|Cronus||22:05:24|06/14/2002|We want Carville Democrats.%0D%0A%0D%0A%5Bfont color%3D%22%23333333%22 size%3D%221%22 face%3D%22Verdana%22%5D%5Btable width%3D%22100%25%22 border%3D%220%22%5D %5Btr%5D%5Btd height%3D1 bgcolor%3D%22%23EEEEff%22%5D%5Bcenter%5D%5Bfont size%3D%22-1%22 color%3D%22black%22%5D%5Bb%5DVisit My Favorite Web Sites%5B%2Fb%5D%5B%2Ffont%5D%5B%2Fcenter%5D%5B%2Ftd%5D%5B%2Ftr%5D%5Btr%5D%5Btd height%3D1 bgcolor%3D%22%23ffEEEE%22%5D%5Bcenter%5D%5Bfont size%3D-1 color%3D%22%23000099%22%5D%5Bb%5DCronus Connection %97%5Blink%3Acronus.com%2F%7Chttp%3A%2F%2Fcronus.com%2F%5D Progressive buttons %97 %5Blink%3Abrainbuttons.com%2F%7Chttp%3A%2F%2Fbrainbuttons.com%2F%5D%0D%0AGreat Indie Music %97 %5Blink%3Abrainscream.com%2F%7Chttp%3A%2F%2Fbrainscream.com%2F%5D Political Satire %97%5Blink%3Abushspeaks.com%2F%7Chttp%3A%2F%2Fbushspeaks.com%2F%5D%5B%2Fb%5D%5B%2Ffont%5D%5B%2Fcenter%5D%5B%2Ftd%5D%5B%2Ftr%5D%5B%2Ftable%5D%5B%2Ffont%5D|0
64|2|Start the process to|Pegleg Thd||18:45:56|06/15/2002|IMPEACH bUSH and cHANEY before the November elections%21%21%21%21%21%21%21%21%21%21|2
129|3|I%27d like to answer this if I may...|myvotedontcountyet||08:14:46|06/18/2002|Impeachment is a political process that is doomed to fail if there are not enough votes to carry through on the process. UNTIL the Democratic Party controls both the House and the Senate with signifigant majorities AND impeachment will bring about a rational change of power from the criminals to those who will protect the nation%2C calls for impeachment are%2C I afraid%2C wasted breath. We should work towards winning powerful majorities in Congress%2C using their crimes to defeat the Repukes in 2004%2C then investigate the bejesus out of them and throw them in prison after they have been properly convicted in courts free from political extremists who violate their oaths of impartiality. AND have a Democtratic President in office so they WON%27T be pardoned. That%27s why impeachment of the five InJustices should wait until 2005.|64
3|1|speak out for what the democratic party should stand for|ithacan||22:06:31|06/14/2002|too much silence about Bush policies that are absolutely appalling%21 Especially on foreign policy.%0D%0A%0D%0ASpeak out and stand up for your principles%21 Compromising with the devil is never a winning path%21|0
4|1|Start calling every republican %22Tricky%22|marshmellow||22:09:23|06/14/2002|Call for a huge outpouring in the november election to %0D%0Abring back tinker bell. Anybody that makes more sense.|0
5|1|GET IN THE SPOTLIGHT|catpower2000||22:12:54|06/14/2002|They have to be as mad as we are%2C don%27t they%3F So why don%27t I see them on the news EVERY SINGLE DAY%2C screaming about Bush%27s oil war%2C his abysmal economic policy%2C his fascism%3F%3F%3F I want VISIBILITY%21 I want to be REPRESENTED%21 In public%21 %0D%0A%0D%0AThank you%2C that was as thoughtful and respectful as I could be. %28wanted to write %22GROW SOME BALLS%22%29%0D%0A%0D%0ACat%0D%0A%0D%0A%5Bfont color%3D%22%23333333%22 size%3D%221%22 face%3D%22Verdana%22%5DThe truth is rarely pure and never simple--Oscar Wilde%5B%2Ffont%5D|0
6|1|For once in your lives%2C|bushwentawol||22:13:29|06/14/2002|[font size="1" color="#FF0000"]LAST EDITED ON Jun-14-02 AT 10:19 PM (ET)[/font][p]stand up to the repugs and NEVER back down%21  Take your media handlers and put them out of their misery.  Then find PR gurus who actually know what the hell they%27re doing.  Who speak for the masses%2C not cower under chimpy%27s inflated poll numbers.  Call for the removal and prosecution of this administration and support efforts to prosecute Justices Thomas and Scalia.%0D%0A%0D%0A%0D%0AThe time for acting timid has long since past.  Never relent%2C never give up.  Remind the DNC that unless there is decisive action taken in the matter of impeachment%2C there%27s more than 1 or 2 Dems willing to say goodbye to the Democratic Party forever.%0D%0A%0D%0A%0D%0A%0D%0A%5Bfont color%3D%22%23333333%22 size%3D%221%22 face%3D%22Verdana%22%5DWhat do you call someone who%27s a military deserter and a rapist%3F%0D%0A%0D%0A       Mr. President%21%21%21%21%21%21%21%21%21%0D%0A%0D%0A%0D%0A%0D%0A%0D%0AThis I believe%3A that the free%2C exploring mind of the%0D%0A   individual human is the most valuable thing in the world.%0D%0A   And this I would fight for%3A the freedom of the mind to%0D%0A   take any direction it wishes%2C undirected. And this I must%0D%0A   fight against%3A any idea%2C religion%2C or government which%0D%0A   limits or destroys the individual. -- John Steinbeck%0D%0A%5B%2Ffont%5D|0
23|2|it cannot just be partisan |rwheeler31||00:05:44|06/15/2002|it has to be true   no joke guys  they did it  they did not get away with it.  I want you to win but win honerably. Thank and good night someone served too many drinks. Thanks  sweet dreams we are ok.   |6
7|1|Take off the tutus and strap on the combat boots|foxglove1||22:14:49|06/14/2002|Stand up%2C open your mouths and do what we pay you to do - REPRESENT US%0D%0A%0D%0ASue|0
90|2|Agreed foxglove1|Tigerlily||07:24:23|06/16/2002|Take off the damn tutus and stop believing the BOGUS polls%21|7
8|1|Grow some balls%21|mykpart||22:16:01|06/14/2002|Please SPEAK UP AND SPEAK OUT and quit eating the bullshit the Republicans dish up.  |0
37|2|YES%21|Anj||15:09:50|06/15/2002|[font size="1" color="#FF0000"]LAST EDITED ON Jun-15-02 AT 03:10 PM (ET)[/font][p]And get a SPINE. Grow some COURAGE - drink it%2C smoke it - I don%27t care - just SPEAK UP and fight for our rights before Smirky takes them ALL AWAY%21|8
9|1|only three words %28at first%29|Feral1||22:20:26|06/14/2002|Single-payer health care.%0D%0A%0D%0AYou wanna bring me back in%2C make me feel as if you truly have something to offer the country%3F%0D%0A%0D%0ASingle-payer health care.%0D%0A%0D%0ABecause we should be able to do it and do it better than any other country on the planet. You want the USA to be able to stand proud once again in the international arena%3F%0D%0A%0D%0ASingle-payer health care.%0D%0A%0D%0A%5Bfont color%3D%22%23333333%22 size%3D%221%22 face%3D%22Verdana%22%5Dhttp%3A%2F%2Fwww.hinduweb.org%2Fhome%2Ftemples_yatra_organizations%2Fmckraja%2Fimages%2Fkali.gif%5B%2Ffont%5D|0
10|1|Tell them that someone needs to take a stand|judy||22:26:57|06/14/2002|Against the Endless So-Called War on Terrorism.%0D%0ASomeone needs to explain that %3A%0D%0A1 - Terrorism is a state of mind and NOT a country%0D%0A2 - Therefore we are NOT at war%0D%0A3 - Bush Admin%27s policies of endless war against Third World countries are creating generations of terrorists for years and years to come.%0D%0A4 - 9%2F11 was not an act of war but a crime against humanity%0D%0A5 - We need to re-sign on to support the UN and the War Crimes Tribunal%0D%0A6 - We need to preserve the freedoms that made this country great%3A repeal the Patriot Act%0D%0A7 - We need to investigate in a real way the mysteries of 9%2F11%0D%0A8 - We need to compensate California for the loss suffered as a result of power prices manipulation%0D%0A9 - We need to pursue investigating the White House%5CCheney%5CEnron scandal all the way %21%0D%0A%0D%0AI don%27t know if this would be a winning platform%2C but it sure would offer an alternative to global destruction %21%0D%0A%0D%0A%5Bfont color%3D%22%23333333%22 size%3D%221%22 face%3D%22Verdana%22%5D%22Patriotism is the last resort of scoundrels%22 Samuel Johnson%0D%0A%0D%0Ahttp%3A%2F%2Fdemocracy1776.iwarp.com%2Fgrassknoll2small.jpg%0D%0A%5B%2Ffont%5D|0
11|1|Stand up and speak out for democracy NOW|notsodumbhillbilly||22:27:49|06/14/2002|before it%27s too late.%0D%0A%0D%0A%5Bfont color%3D%22%23333333%22 size%3D%221%22 face%3D%22Verdana%22%5D%22The only thing necessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing%22 - Edmund Burke%5B%2Ffont%5D|0
12|1|Tell them to focus on bush%27s dishonesty|Nancy Waterman||22:27:57|06/14/2002|He lied about budget numbers%2C he lies about terrorist alerts to save his own skin%2C he lies about the threat of Iraq %28they%27ll never tough that one%29%2C he lied to Nevada%2C he manipulates us with fear.  Bush came in on the integrity bullshit he spouted.  We need to hit him back there.  The citizens are starting to notice they are being manipulated.  I think these issues are more relevant than all the domestic ones. Oh%2C and he has lied about global warming%2C pretending for months that it wasn%27t real.|0
14|2|Repeal the Patriot Act|Nancy Waterman||22:30:08|06/14/2002|Freeze the tax cut.  They won%27t lose one vote if they freeze that stupid tax cut. %28They may lose a few%2C but not many.%29|12
13|1|Stay on this administration about|ignatius||22:29:53|06/14/2002|the oil meeting minutes from Cheney%2C keep on the Enron trail which leads directly to the Repugs%2Cask them to find out why Bush continued reading to children putting them in harms way and doing absolutely nothing to protect anyone but his own sorry ass on 9-11.%0D%0A%0D%0AQuestion them about the Venezuelan coup and overthrowing a democratically elected president%2Cabout letting the missle treaty expire%2Cabout letting the repugs loosen environmental legislation.%0D%0A%0D%0AAsk them why they are allowing citizens to be held w%2Fo legal representation and in some cases with no charges against them.%0D%0A%0D%0AAsk them if we are committing war crimes against POWS%3F%0D%0A%0D%0ATell them to stand up%2C get loud%2C get in their faces and quit being so damned wimpy%21%21%21%21  %0D%0A%0D%0A|0
15|2|Focus on Bush%27s dealings with the taliban pre-9%2F11|Nancy Waterman||22:31:18|06/14/2002|and his directive not to investigate terrorism%21%21|13
16|1|When Bush jumped off the cliff%2C why did you follow%3F     |TerraBull||22:36:14|06/14/2002|[font size="1" color="#FF0000"]LAST EDITED ON Jun-14-02 AT 10:47 PM (ET)[/font][p]%5Bfont size%3D%221%22 color%3D%22%23FF0000%22%5DLAST EDITED ON Jun-14-02 AT 10%3A42%A0PM %28ET%29%5B%2Ffont%5D%0D%0A%0D%0AThis once loyal Democrat says%3A A vote for the ass kisser is a vote for the ass%2C and I ain%27t voting for the ass or the ass kisser.%0D%0A%0D%0Aadding on edit%0D%0A%0D%0AIt%27s War for the Afghanistan Pipeline%2C stupid.%0D%0A%0D%0AConnect the dots%2C everyone else has.%0D%0A%0D%0ABush lies cost lives%0D%0A%0D%0ABush knew%0D%0A%0D%0ABush is lying about 9-11%0D%0A%0D%0AWhat is Bush hiding%3F%0D%0A%0D%0AWhy is Bush afraid of investigations%3F%0D%0A%0D%0AWho is Bush hiding%3F%0D%0A%0D%0AWhat about the short selling of stocks before 9-11%0D%0A%0D%0AWhy are you silent about US citizens %28Padilla is the most well known%29 being held in violation of Constitution%3F%0D%0A%0D%0ALead or get out of the way%0D%0A|0
17|1|I would like|truAlabama_redneck||22:36:54|06/14/2002|to know why Dick Gephardt and Tom Daschle are not screaming from the highest mountain for an independent investigation into 9-11. %0D%0A%0D%0AThe last President of the United States was investigated by one independent council after another. What did they get for their money- a daliance with an intern.%0D%0A%0D%0A3000 people died 9-11 and Bush possibly could have done something to prevent this. Is the death of 3000 people not as important as finding out the truth about a BJ.|0
18|1|Strip the mask off of Bush %26 Co.|Junkdrawer||22:51:16|06/14/2002|Americans have always liked to balance a President of one party with a Congress of another.  Especially if they are nervous about the President.  It%27s time to state the obvious%3A %0D%0A%22Bush is not the President%2C so who is%3F  Look at Rove.  Look at Ashcroft.  Look at DeLay.  Do you REALLY want these men to rule unopposed%3F  Check out Kent Sothard%27s excellent piece on this%3A%0D%0A%0D%0A%5Bhttp%3A%2F%2Fwww.bushwatch.net%2Fbush.htm%23feature%5D%0D%0A%0D%0A%3Csnip%3E%0D%0AThe True Face Of The Conservatives Behind Bush %0D%0A%0D%0ALast September%2C my step-dad and his new wife were passing through on a visit%2C and in the course of events had to extend their stay when the airlines stopped flying. So it was that we were watching George W. Bush%27s address to the nation%2C and as the camera panned across the crowd and paused on faces of significance%2C this woman%2C a conservative Christian lady of the most decent sort%2C made a sour face at the appearance of one individual%2C and said with a curl to her voice%2C %22Who%27s that%3F%22%0D%0A%0D%0A%27That%27s Tom DeLay.%27 I replied. %27He%27s the most powerful Republican in the House of Representatives. He%27s also a Christian Reconstructionist who believes the government should be replaced by rule of the Bible.%27 I am no longer a conservative%2C and so what I say is not to be strictly trusted perhaps%2C but there was no reply. The significance of the moment though%2C I believe%2C is that it was an indication that probably the great majority of Americans who define themselves as %27conservatives%2C%27 as %27patriotic%27 and upholders of %27true American values%2C%27 have virtually no idea who%27s actually running the Republican party and what their real agenda is.%0D%0A%0D%0AI would imagine that she%2C like so many%2C would be hard pressed to identify by sight%2C position%2C or influence%2C such names as Grover Norquist%2C Richard Pearle%2C and Karl Rove. I would suspect she would find the person of Grover Norquist disturbing as well%2C with his nervous%2C pinched%2C introversion%2C a portrait of Lenin in his living room%3B would no doubt be shocked that he shared an office with a Muslim charity that was just raided by the FBI as a money-raising front for terrorists%3B would express frank disbelief that a virtual who%27s-who of the conservative movement meets at his office every Wednesday morning - everyone from Congressional staff to representatives from the White House%2C to Rush Limbaugh%27s people%2C to the NRA - to coordinate strategy and disseminate talking points. This man probably has more real power among conservatives than George Bush%2C yet to know who and what he is%2C is still very much a matter of insider baseball.%0D%0A%3Csnip%3E%0D%0A|0
19|1|Put Clinton in Charge of the DNC|Praetorian||23:08:43|06/14/2002|He%27s the only one with enough style%2C brains and guts to tear into the Republican%27s and ruin them once and for all.%0D%0A%0D%0AI just finished off three Moderators at a Republican Forum....each finally admitted that they are obsessed with Clinton not because of what they portray him getting away with but because they know he can single handedly motivate the Democrats%2C Independents and even some Closet Clinton Conservatives to destroy their hate mongering party forever.%0D%0A%0D%0APut him up there%2C bring Al Gore and Biden on the 2004 ticket and watch the Republican Right%2C Middle and Left tear themselves apart in their own pathetic style. |0
20|1|Where to start%3F|Old and In the Way||23:31:49|06/14/2002|Leadership-%0D%0A%0D%0ANail Bush on the %22Trifecta%22 comment.  %22Im lucky%2C I hit the Trifecta%22 should be the theme......He%27s lucky%2C we%27re not.%0D%0A%0D%0A9-11%3A Moral Outrage.  We need to demand a bi-partisan%2C blue-ribbon commission.  It matters less if we go done fighting as long as we are doing the right thing about this.  3000 people died and no accountability.  It%27s criminal negligence or treason.%0D%0A%0D%0AAre you better off today than 18 months ago%3F  %0D%0A%0D%0ADemocrats need to see who is really in the party and who%27s not.  In-name-only Democrats need to be purged for those that will support our platform.  %0D%0A%0D%0A%0D%0A%0D%0A%0D%0A%0D%0A%5Bfont color%3D%22%23333333%22 size%3D%221%22 face%3D%22Verdana%22%5DEnron%2C Inquisition%2C Selection 2000%2C Chickenhawks %3D It ain%27t treason%2C to state with reason%2C the Republicans are gone next voting season%21  %5B%2Ffont%5D|0
21|2|i find that post to be terribly sad|rwheeler31||23:45:37|06/14/2002|This is the sort of thing they do in texas.  I will not now sign anything without a lawyer.|20
30|3|Really%3F  Why%3F|Old and In the Way||14:47:34|06/15/2002|One thing the Republican%27s do well is elect Republicans who tow the party line.  Seems to me that the Democrats get continually ambushed by members of their own Party who will vote much more often with the Republicans than with the Democrats. My suggestion to the DLC is to start taking a critical view of %22name only%22 Democrats and start demanding discipline in the voting ranks.%0D%0A%0D%0AI can understand why you may repulsed with the Texas Republican%2FChristian%2FRoilist Party and their idea of power politics%2C but if we don%27t start strategically voting no Democrat agenda will get passed in Congress. %0D%0A %0D%0A%0D%0A%5Bfont color%3D%22%23333333%22 size%3D%221%22 face%3D%22Verdana%22%5DEnron%2C Inquisition%2C Selection 2000%2C Chickenhawks %3D It ain%27t treason%2C to state with reason%2C the Republicans are gone next voting season%21  %5B%2Ffont%5D|21
22|1|Please...|Armstead||23:47:05|06/14/2002|[font size="1" color="#FF0000"]LAST EDITED ON Jun-15-02 AT 00:17 AM (ET)[/font][p]-- Talk straight about core issues. Stop skirting around the edges of issues and shrinking them down to size. Challemge the GOP directly. Do not be intimidated by the popularity of George Bush. Forget trying to appeal to Republicans. Become the liberal party again and aggressively identify with%2C  defend and fight to promote liberalism as aggressively as the GOP does with conservatism.  %0D%0A%0D%0A---Recognize that the party is based in the average people%2C especially the poor%2C working and middle classes. Fight for living wage%2C labor rights and greater economic equality.%0D%0A%0D%0A-- Make certain that combatting terrorism is treated in perspective%2C and is not allowed to subvert our country%27s freedoms. Retain civil liberties and due process. Terrorism should be treated as a criminal enterprise%2C and combatted on that basis%2C not as a %22war.%22%0D%0A%0D%0A-- Fight to restore some balance to foreign policy%2C and pull back on the aggressive%2C interventionist%2C unilateral stance of the current administration.%0D%0A%0D%0A--Rein in the growing power of monopolistic corporations%2C and restore economic diversity. Use anti-trust and merger reviews to stop the continued consolidation of economic and political power in too few hands.%0D%0A%0D%0A--Fair trade%2C not free trade. Do not give away national sovergnty through bogus %22free trade%22 agreements.%0D%0A%0D%0A--Address the consolidation and lack of public accountability of the media. Begin to break up media monopolies and restore diversity of ownership%2C at least to the level it used to be. Bring back public-service requirements and Fairness Docturne.%0D%0A%0D%0A--Aggressively deal with the fundamental deterioration and unfairness of current healthcare system. Don%27t always limit it to micro-issues like %22prescription drugs benefit.%22 Rather start talking about -- and aggressively pursuing -- universal access to affordable health coverage.|0
24|1|Take this administration to task about their abuse of power|fed2dneck||02:08:30|06/15/2002|And don%27t shut up%2C don%27t back down.  Get in their face%2C no matter how blustery the Bushies get--as a matter of fact%2C the more they try to intimidate you%2C the louder you should call them to task.  %0D%0A%5Bul%5D%0D%0A%5Bli%5DTyrants feed on fear and appeasement%3B therefore%2C the more you give in to them%2C and the more you make nice with them%2C the more they think they can get away with shredding the Constitution%2C the more they%27ll trample on our rights%2C the more they%27ll threaten you with vague terrorist warnings%2C etc. %0D%0A%5B%2Fli%5D%0D%0A%5Bli%5DTell Cheney you%27re not the least bit afraid of his bogus terror warnings%2C that they%27re but a hoax designed to get Democrats off his back to avoid criticism of his dictatorial actions.%0D%0A%5B%2Fli%5D%0D%0A%5Bli%5DWrite%2C call%2C and%2For visit the media and demand an full%2C honest%2C and unbiased explanation as to why they act like a propaganda arm of the Bush administration instead of the responsible%2C independent%2C free press which is supposed to protect and serve the people.  Suggest that they are acting to protect Bush from criticism instead of protecting the peoples%27 right to free expression without risking arrest.%0D%0A%5B%2Fli%5D%0D%0A%5Bli%5D%5Bb%5DDo not take no for an answer.%5B%2Fb%5D  Refuse to accept any excuse%2C denial%2C or rationalization %28e.g. %22There%27s a war going on%3B therefore%2C we can%27t allow criticism of Bush%22%29.  Just keep getting in their faces until you get the answers you want from them.  But should you fail%2C feel free to take out ads suggesting that the media are colluding with the Bush administration to undermine the will of the people and therefore%2C our democracy itself%2C wishing to overthrow our Constitutional government and replace it with a totalitarian police state reminiscent of Nazi Germany or Stalinist Russia. Associating Bush with Hitler or the Communists should be enough to turn the people against him.%0D%0A%5B%2Fli%5D%0D%0A%0D%0A%0D%0A%5Bfont color%3D%22%23333333%22 size%3D%221%22 face%3D%22Verdana%22%5DIf you have nothing to hide%2C then quit acting like you%27re hiding something%21%0D%0A%0D%0A%5Bfont color%3D%22red%22%5DEnron has 3000 subsidaries--3001 if you count the GOP%21%5B%2Ffont%5D%0D%0A%0D%0AWould you trust anyone who thinks it%27s OK to lie to you %22under an infinite number of circumstances%3F%22 Republicans are counting on it. %0D%0A%0D%0A%5Blink%3Awww.libertyinmourning.com%7CLiberty in Mourning - 12%2F12%2F2000%5D%0D%0A%0D%0A%5B%2Ffont%5D|0
38|2|Absolutely|oldcoot||15:10:13|06/15/2002|Remind the Democrats that they swore to uphold the Constitution which is the law of the land. There is no clause in their oath which says that terrorism and other disasters absolve them of this responisibility.  Thus%2C I expect the Democrats to start fighting against this administration a little bit harder to protect our rights.|24
25|1|war on democracy|dogpatch||02:31:06|06/15/2002|There IS a war on%2C and it%27s one that Bush Inc. is going to win unless voters and their elected representatives start fighting to preserve our democracy.  Someone said it above%2C lose the tutus and put on the combat boots.|0
26|1|Good responses so far. How %27bout some more%3F   n%2Ft|Eloriel||10:39:22|06/15/2002|%0D%0A%0D%0A%5Bfont color%3D%22%23333333%22 size%3D%221%22 face%3D%22Verdana%22%5DPower concedes nothing without a demand. It never had and never will. -- Frederick Douglas%5B%2Ffont%5D|0
27|1|More PR on Stonewalling|Ugnmoose||12:13:16|06/15/2002|They need to keep alive and in front of the media and the American people as much as possible that this Adminstration is a secret society.  Evidence the fact that Cheney has refused to release subpoenaed information from the GAO re meetings with energy execs and now has been sued.  This is just one of many examples of how this Administration has tried to stonewall and impede legitimate attempts at investigation.  We need to drum it into the heads of the electorate that these folks may very well be hiding somethings of great significance and cannot be trusted.  Trust is a big word in government and politics.  Plain and simple this Administration cannot be trusted.  If the DNC can hit on this issue alone I think it will make its mark come November.|0
28|2|I would like to know|proud patriot||14:40:19|06/15/2002|that the nations security is more important%0D%0Athan lobbiest profits . I want to know%0D%0Athat our Constitution and our Civil Rights%0D%0Aare being protected . %0D%0A%0D%0AI need the Democratic Party to finds it%27s%0D%0Aroots and save Democracy .%0D%0A%0D%0A%5Bfont color%3D%22%23333333%22 size%3D%221%22 face%3D%22Verdana%22%5D%5Bhttp%3A%2F%2Fwww.mv.com%2Fipusers%2Fbecky%2Fbar3.gif%5D%3B%0D%0A%5Bmarquee%5D%0D%0A%5Bfont color%3D%22%23cc0033%22 size%3D%223%22 face%3D%22verdana%22%5D Be sure to drop in %26 %5Bfont color%3D%22%232e8b57%22 size%3D%224%22 face%3D%22jester%22%5D Introduce yourself %5Bfont color%3D%22%23cc0033%22 size%3D%223%22 face%3D%22verdana%22%5D at the daily thread in %5Blink%3Awww.democraticunderground.com%2Fcgi-bin%2Fduforum%2Fduboard.cgi%3Faz%3Dlist%26forum%3DDCForumID40%26conf%3DDCConfID16%7CThe Lounge%5D%5B%2Fmarquee%5D%0D%0A%0D%0A%0D%0A%5B%2Ffont%5D|27
36|3|DNC|ewing2001||15:07:36|06/15/2002|[font size="1" color="#FF0000"]LAST EDITED ON Jun-15-02 AT 03:09 PM (ET)[/font][p]The DNC should support a public investigation of 911 and drop the hearings.%0D%0A%0D%0AIf you have the guts%2C tell them you have credible sources where you read enough convincing evidence%2C that the admin let the attack happen on purpose.%0D%0A%0D%0ATell them you saw a list of at least 40 early warnings or evidence of prior knowledge.%0D%0A%0D%0ATell them%2C that the people%2C who provide this evidence%2C are already in contact with the families of the victims%2C who support them.%0D%0A%0D%0ATell them that you have media reports about two high alerts on September 10th %28Pentagon%2FLanguage Institute Monterey%29%0D%0A%0D%0ATell them that you have read about Off. Butler of Monterey who already blamed Bush that he let the attack happen on purpose %28BBC%29 and you want to know why.%0D%0A%0D%0A%0D%0ATell them that terrorist groups exist%2C but they all have different names and without downplaying this%2C that the admin use a bogus name %28Al-Quaida%29 to tie them all together.%0D%0ABin Laden never used this name%21%0D%0A%0D%0ATell them that the nation has the right to hear about evidence that the war was planned since 3%2C 4 years and almost signed by Bush three days before the attack.%0D%0A%0D%0ATell them%2C that there are coincidences which can%27t be ignored any longer.%0D%0A%0D%0ATell them%2C that many people in this nation don%27t trust the FBI and CIA anymore and ask%2C why american scientists from the FAS think that the anthrax was sent by american institutions and noone is asking about that anymore since December 2001.%0D%0A%0D%0AFinally ask%2C why so many civil rights have been undermined%2C the right of freedom of speech got lost and military laws have been introduced.%0D%0A%0D%0ATell them%2C you have wondered%2C why democrat Ron Stark complained in the US Congress already some months ago%2C that the vibes in the Congress %22smack like fascism%22.%0D%0A%0D%0A%0D%0AHowever to say all this in public you have to have a lot of guts.%0D%0AI wouldn%27t blame you to leave out this chance. %0D%0ATry to dum it more down maybe.%0D%0A%0D%0APersonally i don%27t trust the DNC much.%0D%0AI also think that the media has to report first%2C before helpless democratic commitees mess it up again.%0D%0A%0D%0AThe effect could be destructive.%0D%0ABut maybe you are lucky to leak something.%0D%0A%0D%0A%0D%0A%0D%0AAll the best  %3A%29%0D%0A%0D%0A%0D%0A%0D%0A%5Bfont color%3D%22%23333333%22 size%3D%221%22 face%3D%22Verdana%22%5DGROUND ZERO Forum NYC%0D%0Ahttp%3A%2F%2Fwww.ourDNA.org%0D%0Ahttp%3A%2F%2Fforums.delphiforums.com%2Fground_zero2001%0D%0A%0D%0ASupporter of the 911-Scepticism Movement NYC%2C Washington%2C San Francisco%2C Ohio etc...%0D%0A%0D%0ASupport public LIHOP-evidence now%2C SETUP later%21%0D%0A%0D%0AOur last 911-skepticism forum was on May 3rd to 5th in NYC%2C 135 west 42nd St. %28bet. 6th %26 7th Ave%29 at Chashama Theater%2C Times Square.%0D%0A%0D%0AIt included also a panel on May 4th%2C streamed live over the net with panelists from DU%2C guerrillanews%2C GZ%2C Alex Jones.com and a live phone session with Oswald Le Winter %28Portugal%2C Ex-USA%29. %0D%0A%0D%0A%0D%0AThe 911-sceptic contents%3A%0D%0Aa%29 geopolitical background %28carlyle%2C harken%2C UNOCAL%2C%0D%0ACentGas%2C DynCorp%2C ENRON Broadband%2FTSI%2FTaliban%2C%0D%0AHalliburton etc..%29%0D%0Ab%29 investigative %2B scientific oddities%2C prior knowledge%2Fearly warnings%2C details for a set-up incl. LIHOP etc..%0D%0Ac%29 current political situation%2C historical comparisons%0D%0AProj. Northwoods%2C Bushistory%2C Ashcrofts%0D%0Adatabase%2Freading lists%2C threads of week%2C lies of war%2C yuppie fascism%2C%0D%0Acivil liberties%2Farrestments etc.. %0D%0Ad%29 political and media analysis plus current support%0D%0Afor 911-investigation %28US congress%3A McKinney%2C Stark%2C%0D%0Aplus opinions Ron Paul etc..%2C AtlantaPoll%2C%0D%0A911-petition with 11000 sigs%2C diff. books from Moore%0D%0Ato Greg Palast%29%2C 911-website projects%2C independent%0D%0Amedia portals etc..%0D%0Ae%29 Insider-oddities %2Bdetails%2C insider-infos%2C last%0D%0Aminute topics%2C %22breaking news%22...%5B%2Ffont%5D|28
70|4|Good to see you posted -|LoTec||19:18:55|06/15/2002|My suggestion for the DNC was%2Fis that they take on everything you%27ve been talking about.  %0D%0A%0D%0AYou%27re good people %3A%29|36
29|1|REPRESENT THE PEOPLE|noiretblu||14:43:07|06/15/2002|who did not vote for bush%2C inc...the majority of americans.  create a plan for dealing with republican vote-stealing schemes%2C and let the people know where it%27s likely to happen.  stand up for people%27s right to vote%2C and to have their votes counted.%0D%0Adon%27t drop the ball on florida...keep the voter fraud in florida%2C and elsewhere on the front burner.  %0D%0A%0D%0A%5Bfont color%3D%22%23333333%22 size%3D%221%22 face%3D%22Verdana%22%5D%5Bfont color%3D%22%23333333%22 size%3D%221%22 face%3D%22Verdana%22%5D%5Bfont color%3D%22%23333333%22 size%3D%221%22 face%3D%22Verdana%22%5D%5Bfont color%3D%22%23333333%22 size%3D%221%22 face%3D%22Verdana%22%5D%5Bfont color%3D%22%23333333%22 size%3D%221%22 face%3D%22Verdana%22%5D%5Bfont color%3D%22%23333333%22 size%3D%221%22 face%3D%22Verdana%22%5D%0D%0Ahttp%3A%2F%2Fwww.web-kun.de%2FAugen%2FAugen_5%2FAugen_13_2KB.gif%0D%0Ahttp%3A%2F%2Fdemocracy1776.iwarp.com%2Fgrassknoll2small.jpg %0D%0ASince December 2000%2C Northern California Chapter%0D%0A%0D%0Ahttp%3A%2F%2Fwww.gif.com%2FImageGallery%2FAnimated%2FWarnings%2FPhotographic%2Falert.gif%0D%0AIn politics%2C nothing happens by accident. If it happened%2C you can bet it was planned that way.   %0D%0AFDR %5B%2Ffont%5D|0
31|1|LEADERSHIP%21%21%21%21|2548HR||14:50:56|06/15/2002|We desperately need a leader to speak out. There are so many issues%2C Enron%2C Cheney%27 energy bill%2C investigate 911%2C connection to oil pipelines%2C the list can go on. We need a hero%21|0
32|1|My two cents|mzpip||14:58:25|06/15/2002|I am particularly consencerned that Enron has dropped off the radar screen. As a resident of CA%2C I feel that this matter needs to be investigated.%0D%0A%0D%0AI am concerned about the relaxation of pollution regulations and the lack of emphasis on conservation.%0D%0A%0D%0AWe are continually being told that we are in a war against an enemy that threatens our way of life. Yet%2C were are told the way to respond is to shop more and to travel more. There is no emphasis on sacrifice. We are told that the tax cut must be made permanent%2C yet how are we supposed to fund all of the defense programs that this administration insists are necessary to our defense%3F There is a major disconnect between the seriousness that a war should bring about and our lack of homeland policies%2C like conservation%2C that should be a part of any ongoing war effort.%0D%0A%0D%0AMzPip%0D%0A%3Adem%3A%0D%0A%0D%0A%0D%0A%5Bfont color%3D%22%23333333%22 size%3D%221%22 face%3D%22Verdana%22%5D%22A plague on both your houses.%22 William Shakespeare%0D%0A%0D%0A%22Conservatives aren%27t necessarily stupid%2C but most stupid people are conservative.%22  John Stuart Mill%0D%0A%0D%0A%22You can put lipstick on a hog and call it Monique%2C but it%27s still a pig.%22  Jim Hightower%5B%2Ffont%5D|0
35|2|My thoughts exactly|packerfan||15:07:27|06/15/2002|I would say exactly what MzPip just said.  Couldn%27t say it any beter myself.|32
46|3|Missile Defense Shield%3DCorporate Welfare|Downwiththechimp||15:46:36|06/15/2002| Stop it. Get rid of it. It is a scam and we all know it. It is simply a way to bankruptsocial programs Repubs don%27t want to fund.%0D%0A%0D%0A If you can%27t stand up for your values%2C you%27ve lost this voter for good.|35
72|2|and for goodness sakes KILL that Corporate Welfare%2FStrangle the |salin||20:07:17|06/15/2002|[font size="1" color="#FF0000"]LAST EDITED ON Jun-15-02 AT 08:07 PM (ET)[/font][p]consumers Energy Bill. Remind them the same way that the California deregulation law and later the deregulation structures were developed %28designed by industry%2Fprimarily Enron%29 is the same way %28hidden ala Cheney%29 the current law was written. Remind them as went California - so will go the country. Tell them to dig a little harder on the Enron scandals to give the ammunition to appear that killing the energy bill is SAVING the public rather than %27obstructing%27 cheney. And constantly link the Energy bills to Cheney - the public is very uneasy about Cheney and his secrecy. Keep refering to it as %22Cheney%27s energy bill%22. %22Cheney%27s energy plan%22. %22Cheney%27s energy initiatives.%22%0D%0A%0D%0A%5Bfont color%3D%22%23333333%22 size%3D%221%22 face%3D%22Verdana%22%5D%22We expect there to be transparency. People who have something to hide make us nervous....%22 GWB in Alaska - discussing Iraq.%0D%0A%5B%2Ffont%5D|32
33|1|I don%27t know what to say to the DLC...|w13rd0||15:04:20|06/15/2002|...I want to belive that they have a strategy.  But I doubt this more and more.%0D%0A%0D%0ATo them I would say a few %22sure losers%22 or persons that have no office to hold should get out there and start hitting.  No pulling punches.  Dem leadership%2C when asked about these persons statements%2C should simply reply%2C %22Well%2C they have questions.  I would hope that we%2C in cooperation with the White House%2C can provide them some answers.%22|0
34|1|Stand up with principle and fight the Republicans and the major media%21|CalamityJane||15:05:09|06/15/2002|I strongly believe that Democrats must fight the lies of the major media%2C such as the cable channels%2C the Washingrton Post and the New York Times. The definition of propaganda is putting out information that fits an agenda and that tears down and lies about the opposition%2C These outlets have been doing that consistently for a few years now. They told lies about Gore and Clinton and they propped up Bush. They will continue to do this. Are you going to let the media continue to bury the truth about September 11th and Enron%3F%0D%0A%0D%0AObviously a whole lot of people think Republicans have superior morals and are great military leaders when the truth is that Bush%2C Cheney%2C and many of the extreme right-wing Repulicans are immoral chickenhawks. You know they have control of the major media%27s message. You must FIGHT this. I believe we are moving away from democracy at a fast rate now. Stand up and fight with the truth%21 We are sick of corruption and lies%21|0
39|1|Here%27s my list%3A|Stevie D||15:11:37|06/15/2002|Focus on these issues%3A%0D%0A%0D%0Athe environment%0D%0Athe economy and the deficit%0D%0Ainvestigate 911 attacks%2FBFEE involvement%0D%0AEnron%2Fcorporate corruption%0D%0Aconcentration of media control%0D%0Areturn the Fairness Doctrine%0D%0Apeaceful ME settlement%0D%0Aseparation of church and state%0D%0Aenergy reregulation%0D%0Achecks and balances between Executive%2FLegislative%2FJudicial branches%0D%0Apublic financing of elections%0D%0Ainstant runoff voting%0D%0Ajobs...%0D%0Ahttp%3A%2F%2Fmedia.chickclick.com%2Fworkmoney%2Fimage%2Fjob_hto1.11_165.gif%0D%0A%0D%0A|0
40|1|Tell them|Loki||15:15:44|06/15/2002|if they will listen.......we want champions for our country and this democracy that is being torn apart piece by piece. If they want our support they will have to earn it by speaking FOR the people instead of being cowards cringing in the corner. It%27s time to start fighting the corporate whore Repukes who march in blinded lockstep behind this pathetic excuse for a president. There are many of us who will never forget their silence when they stood by in mute compliance while a little man was appointed to the presidency. We want a leader and we want him now. %0D%0A%0D%0A%0D%0A  %0D%0A%0D%0A%0D%0A%0D%0A%0D%0A%0D%0A%0D%0A%0D%0A%0D%0A%5Bfont color%3D%22%23333333%22 size%3D%221%22 face%3D%22Verdana%22%5D%22I am a Democrat without prefix%2C %0D%0Awithout suffix and without apology.%22%0D%0A-Sam Rayburn%0D%0A%5B%2Ffont%5D|0
41|1|Here are some questions |9215||15:29:51|06/15/2002|from awhile back that somebody put on this board. I copied them. They were suggested for the Senate Intelligence Committee and I sent them to every democratic member of that Committee. Thought you might find them useful for the DNC. %0D%0A%0D%0AGood luck%0D%0A%0D%0ACongressional Inquiry into 9%2F11%0D%0A%0D%0ASenate Intelligence Committee e-mail address%0D%0A%0D%0Asenator2%40levin.senate.gov%0D%0A%0D%0Adick%40durbin.senate.gov%0D%0A%0D%0A%0D%0AGood evening new friends. %0D%0ATonight I wish to undertake explaining my take on the events of the days prior to and following September 11th. I think it is a huge topic to discuss and I hope I don%27t miss anything I wish to include%2C but I will give it my best attempt. In this%2C I hope to point out to you%2C and perhaps prove to you%2C that George Bush and his Administration are to some degree complicit in the attacks that shook New York and Washington DC. %0D%0A%0D%0AI will begin by compiling a list of items that George Bush had coming down the pike that he was about to be taken to task for prior to Sept 11%2C that the attacks pushed to the back burner and succeeded in making most of them non-issues. While this does not prove anything%2C it does show motive. %0D%0A1%29 Although news outlets continue to this day to portray the Social Security funds as untouched prior to Sept 11%2C this is wholly untrue. Bush had already tapped the supposed sacred lock box and was going to have to perform a full scale raid that would have been political suicide without a major event to necessitate the raid and get the populace on his side. Sept 11th provided that quite effectively. %0D%0A2%29 Bush%27s approval ratings were finally dipping below 50%25 where they belong%2C and the public was awakening to the illegitimate farce that the Supreme Court selected. Sept 11th changed that and provided a 90%25%2B approval rating. %0D%0A3%29 I fully believe that the Enron debacle that we all just witnessed was forseen prior to Sept 11th%2C proven by the fact that most of the big wigs sold off their stock. Bush had to know it too given his extremely close ties to Kenneth Lay. Sept 11th provided the ultimate smoke screen to soften that blow. %0D%0A4%29 Bush being the ultra right wing conservative doesn%27t like little things%2C such as the US Constitution and the Bill of Rights%2C and freedom for the common man%2C and corporate regulations etc. etc. Sept 11th has provided the excuse for the wholesale dismantling of our personal freedoms%2C our rights%2C multiple parts of the Bill of Rights%2C huge transgressions on the US Constitution%2C and it has been used as the reasoning behind everything from blocking the release of Presidential papers%2C to the need to drill in the ANWR. %0D%0A5%29 The creation of the police state that Bush has dreamed of since the first time he invoked his desire for the ease of a dictatorship. How much easier will the next election be to steal if we implement national ID cards%2C and internet and email can be intercepted%2C homes can be searched without a warrant%2C and anyone that doesn%27t toe the party line can be %22disappeared%22. Sept 11th has been a great boon for Herr Bush. %0D%0AThis is just a partial list%2C but I don%27t wish to spend my entire time discussing these. Rather think of these as a beginning for you to consider yourself%2C and perhaps you will think of things I haven%27t listed. Either way%2C it has the desired effect of making you consider why what follows is completely possible%2C and also incredibly likely. %0D%0A%0D%0AAs a prelude I will mention for those that may not know this%2C that Bush had plans in place back in June%2FJuly 2000 to invade Afghanistan. He had already directly threatened the Taliban with war if they did not agree to Bush%27s deal on the oil in that region. The problem is%2C the US cannot simply trot off to war for oil alone if we wish to maintain our facade of the good guys. Now%2C I ask you to think back to Sept 11 in the minutes prior to the first plane striking the first tower. I personally was almost to work and I was listening to a morning show on the radio in my van. They joke alot so when they said a plane had just hit the WTC%2C I actually thought they were kidding around. I pulled into the parking lot at work%2C and when I walked inside%2C everyone was quietly watching a television set and the news was saying the same thing I had heard on the radio. I knew now that it was no joke%2C but I still thought it was an accident at worst%2C and so did everyone else at work. It is no great stretch of the imagination to think it was an accident given New York%27s multiple airports%2C and the height of the New York skyline. 19 minutes later%2C the second plane hit and I%2C as well as my co-workers began to think the other direction. This was purposeful%2C but we still wondered. Although the odds were greatly against it%2C this could still be an accident. We continued to watch the news%2C and 60 minutes later%2C a third plane plowed into the Pentagon. Then we were absolutely sure that this was no accident. That is how it was for an average civilian. Now consider how it was for the FAA%2FMilitary%2FGovernment and things change quite a bit. Before the first plane hit anything%2C the FAA knew that 4 planes had been simultaneously hijacked. A first in the history of aviation. They notified the military and the government and they promptly did... nothing. The first plane hits the WTC and to you and I it appears to be an accident. To the FMG %28FMG %3D FAA%2FMilitary%2FGovernment%29 it was clearly no accident. They knew the planes had been hijacked%2C they had them on radar%2C and they knew where they were%2C and their headings respectively. They promptly did... nothing. 19 minutes later and the second plane hits making people like you and I suspicious of the possibility of an accident%2C but again%2C the FMG KNEW%21 They knew it was being done maliciously and they promptly did... nothing%21 At this point%2C 2 of the 4 simultaneously hijacked planes have been used as manned projectiles and it is no hard task to imagine that the same fate awaits the remaining 2. They promptly do... nothing. The third plane is permitted to fly%2C unscathed for 60 more minutes with no attempted intercept of any kind%2C until it plows into the side of the Pentagon in Washington DC. THEN they scramble fighters%2C and try to make a good show of it after the damage has already been done. This was permitted by our government%21 In later interviews Dick Cheney portrays their lack of action as being due to the fact that it wouldn%27t do any good to scramble fighters since they didn%27t have the Presidential authorization to shoot them down anyway%2C but this too is a lie. The FAA has clearly defined rules for just such occasions. First they try to intercept the plane%2C and if the plane does not respond%2C a shoot down is permitted by FAA rules. The US Government never even attempted an intercept because they never put a plane up until their excuse for war was firmly carried out. Dick Cheney also alluded to their being no planes available out of Andrews AFB%2C which is tasked with the defense of Washington DC. This too is a lie. Andrews AFB%2C as stated on their own web site%2C has 2-3 ALWAYS ON ALERT fighter squadrons ready to go at the drop of a pin. Someone in the government squelched that so the planes could do their damage. %0D%0A%0D%0AMy next piece of evidence consists of a bit of technology called Global Hawk. Global Hawk allows a plane to be flown remotely from the ground%2C unmanned. It was just tested last year%2C prior to Sept 11th when the US flew a plane to Australia where it safely landed and even taxied off the runway all under the control of Global Hawk. I will also mention that the test was done on an airplane the size of a 767. Let me reiterate this. Technology currently exists to remotely fly a 767 sized airplane from the ground%2C half way around the world at least. Have you ever wondered why we%27ve never gotten to hear anything at all from the recovered black boxes from the suicide planes%3F Could it be because we%27d hear 4 airline captains remarking quite surprisedly how their planes were no longer under their control%3F This is backed up quite nicely by the fact that during interviews with the various flight school instructors that taught the alleged middle eastern terrorists%2C to the man they spoke of what terrible candidates these men were for pilots. They spoke of how badly they did in all phases of their schooling%2C and each and every one of the men was kicked out of their chosen schools without earning a license. This is important for a couple reasons. the first being that we%27re being asked to believe that the same men that couldn%27t get licensed on a Cessna%2C managed to fly 767%27s pricisely into the WTC towers. Secondly because the plane that hit the 2nd tower made quite a remarkable maneuver to avet missing the tower at the last second%2C causing one expert to remark that the maneuver would have taken a military class pilot to pull it off. Cessna... 767. Failed miserably on the Cessna... pulled off a military flight maneuver in a 767. I don%27t think so. %0D%0A%0D%0AMake no mistake. Sept 11th was very purposeful%2C but it was done by the Bush administration via the CIA. I have no doubt that middle eastern men may have been on those planes%2C but I do suspect that they were every bit as surprised by their eventual destinations as the rest of the crew and passengers. %0D%0A%0D%0ASearch out GlobalHawk remote guidance system. THIS is the means. %0D%0AQ%3A Are they in all airliners%3F Which ones if no. When installed. Who installs. Contracts paper trails......%0D%0A%0D%0A%0D%0AAl Queda link to Saudi Arabia 5%2F3%3A %5Burl%5Dhttp%3A%2F%2Fwww.guardian.co.uk%2Finternational%2Fstory%2F0%2C3604%2C709170%2C00.html%5B%2Furl%5D%0D%0A%0D%0A%5Burl%5D%3Chttp%3A%2F%2Fcryptome.org%2Fsoil%2Fsoiled-dove2.htm%3E%0D%0A%5B%2Furl%5D%0D%0A%0D%0A5%2F3%2F02 Questions for Investigators%3A%0D%0A%0D%0A9%2F11%3A THE BASIC QUESTIONS %0D%0A1. Why didn%27t jets intercept the airliners since they had numerous warnings of terrorist attacks%3F %0D%0A2. Why did Ashcroft stop flying commercial%2C citing an unidentified %22threat%22 in July 2001%3F%0D%0A3. Why were there no photos or videos of the Pentagon plane%3F %0D%0A4. Why didn%27t the Secret Service hustle Dubya out of the classroom%3F %0D%0A5. Where was George H. W. Bush at the time of the attacks%3F %0D%0A6. Why did passengers or crewmembers on three of the flights all use the term boxcutters%3F%0D%0A7. Where are the flight recorders%3F %0D%0A8. Why were the FISA warrants discontinued%3F %0D%0A9. How did Bush see the first plane crash on live camera%3F%0D%0A10 Why was security meeting scheduled for 9%2F11cancelled by WTC management on 9%2F10%3F %0D%0A11. How did they come up with the %22culprits%22 so quickly%3F %0D%0A12. How did they find the terrorist%27s cars at the airports so quickly%3F %0D%0A13. Why did Shrub dissolve the Bin Laden Task Force%3F %0D%0A14. Why the strange pattern of debris from Flight 93%3F%0D%0A15. Why was no plane seen at the Pentagon%3F %0D%0A16. How extensive was the relationship between the Taliban%2C the ISI and the CIA%3F %0D%0A17. What exactly was the role of Henry Kissinger at UNOCAL%3F%0D%0A18. When was it decided to cancel building a pipeline from Turkmenistan through Afghanistan to Pakistan%3F%0D%0A19. When was the decision made to send the FEMA to New York%3F%0D%0A20. Why did FEMA spokesman Tom Kenney tell Dan Rather he was in New York on Sept. 10%3F%0D%0A21. Why did the FBI in 1996 close the files to investigate Osama bin Laden%27s relatives in Washington %3F%0D%0A22. Why did .Bush stop inquiries into terrorist connections of the Bin Laden family in early 2001%3F%0D%0A23. Who made the decision to have John O%27Neill stop investigating Al-qeada accounts%3F%0D%0A24. Who gave the decision to give him a security job at the World Trade Center%3F%0D%0A25. Did John O%27Neill meet anyone of the FEMA in the night of September 10th%3F%0D%0A26. What about media reports that hijackers bought tickets for flights scheduled after Sept. 11%3F%0D%0A27. Why did none of the 19 hijackers appeared on the passenger lists%3F%0D%0A28. Why would devout Muslims frequent bars%2C drink alcoholic beverages and leave their bibles%3F%0D%0A29. Why would the hijackers use credit cards and allow drivers licenses with photos to be zeroxed%3F%0D%0A30. Why did the hijackers force passengers to call relatives%3F%0D%0A31. How did the hijackers change the flight plan without law enforcement or the military try to stop them%3F%0D%0A32. Which hijacker%27s passport was found in the WTC rubble%3F Who found it and what time%3F%0D%0A33. How could the FBI distinguish between %22regular%22 Muslims and hijacker Muslims on those flights%3F %0D%0A34. Why was there not one %22innocent%22 Muslim on board any of these flights%3F%0D%0A35. Did someone go through the passenger lists looking for Muslim names and label them as hijackers%3F %0D%0AMOHAMMED ATTA%0D%0A36. Did the Florida police provide information that Atta was searched because of 1%29an expired Visa%2C 2%29 driving a car without a license%2C 3%29 because of an incident at Miami Airport%3F%0D%0A37. Why did Atta leave his bag at the airport and the employees didn%27t put it on board%3F%0D%0A38. Who found his bag%3F How can we be sure it it was his bag%3F%0D%0A39. Why did Atta place a video %22how to fly planes%22%2C a uniform and his last will into his bag%2C knowing that he would commit suicide%3F%0D%0A40. Why did Atta leave his drivers license in a rental car%3F%0D%0A41. When did Atta train on a flight simulator%3F%0D%0A42. Did Atta leave the US while in training and then return%3F%0D%0A43. Why did Atta decide to study at Opa Locka%2C a famous hub of 6 Navy training bases and includes government partners like U.S. Coast Guard Air Station%2C Police %28Miami-Dade%29 Aviation Unit%3F%0D%0A44. Why was Atta allowed to study since he was stopped by the police for driving without a license and also for violating his visa%3F %0D%0ATHE BLACK BOXES AND CRASH VIDEO%0D%0A45. Why were the Black Boxes never recovered %3F%0D%0A46. Why didn%27t the FBI release the air traffic controller%27s protocols%3F%0D%0A47. Why did the FBI not release the Flight Data Recorder info%3F%0D%0A48. Who video-recorded the first plane hitting the tower%3F Why did he disappear from the media%3F %0D%0ATHE HIJACKERS%0D%0A49. How did the FBI receive a tip from a passenger who boarded a different plane and reached his destination safely that he had a confrontation with two ME men at the Logan airport in Boston%3F %0D%0A50. Who tipped the FBI to storm the Westin Hotel in Boston on September 12th%3F%0D%0A51. Where did the photos of all 19 hijackers come from%3F%0D%0A52. How were all hijackers identified just 2 days after the attack%3F%0D%0A53. Why did all 19 names not appear on the passenger list 2 days after the hijacker list was released%3F%0D%0A54. Why do none of the names appear on the passenger lists UA and AA gave to CNN%3F%0D%0A55. How could the hijackers disable the defense systems%3F %0D%0A56. Why did the FBI ignore Bin Laden%27s family%2C who left the United States without further investigation %0D%0A57. What about the supposed hijackers who are still alive%3F%0D%0A58. Was there a reason to change the list of the original 19 hijackers%3F%0D%0A59. What happened to Ayub Ali Khan and Mohammed Jaweed Azmath%2C who have been in jail since %0D%0ASeptember 2001%2C because of possession of box cutters on a train%3FWho gave the tip to arrest them%3F%0D%0A60. Why did it take 4 months before Ramsi Binalschibhs name was mentioned%2C since he was a good friend of Mohammad Atta and lived in his apartment in Hamburg%3F%0D%0A61. Why did it take 4 months until December 11 to charge Zacarias Moussaoui for the 9%2F11 attacks when his case was known worldwide for months%2C but not mentioned in the American media%3F%0D%0A62. Whatever happened with Lotfi Raissi%2C who was arrested in UK for teaching the terrorist pilots%3F%0D%0A63. What is the current status of the investigation of Mamoun Darkazanli Import-Export-Company in Hamburg and Al Taqwa Management Organisation in Lugano%3F%0D%0A64. Why was Richard Reid able to enter the Paris airport twice and who paid for his hotel%3F%0D%0A65. Who hired Zacarias Masspoui to learn how to fly passenger jets in the United States%3F%0D%0A66. Why did the FBI or CIA fail to interrogate him between August and December 2001%3F %0D%0ABIN LADEN %0D%0A67. Did the CIA monitor Bin Laden in 1998 with the help of 15 Afghan agents%2C paid %241%2C000%2F month%3F%0D%0A68. Where are these agents%3F Was Johnny %22Mike%22 Spann one%3F Was John Walker Lindh one%3F%0D%0A69. Is an Afghan agent a member of the ISI%3F Is an Afghan agent working for Bin Laden%3F%0D%0A70. When was the first time Tenet mentioned the Al-Quaeda group to any member of the Senate%3F%0D%0A71. Why did the Pentagon release a new video version or translation of the Bin Laden Home video%3F%0D%0A72. Why it was released only 8 hours after translation by the German magazine MONITOR on December %3F%0D%0A73. Why were the four translators prior US-Government workers%3F%0D%0A74. When was the Bin Laden Home Video found and who found it%3F%0D%0A75. Who found the video if Northern Alliance and US troops had not yet arrived in Kandahar or Jahalabad%3F%0D%0A76. Does the timestamp on the Bin Laden video indicate that it was found two weeks after it was produced%3F%0D%0A77. Why was the public not informed who found the video and when%3F%0D%0A78. Why according to MONITOR magazine%2C were the most controversial statements translated incorrectly%3F%0D%0A79. Why was the video released%3F%0D%0A80. Who gave the final decision to release it%3F%0D%0A81. Why is the Bin Laden video of June 2001 in which he praised the attack%2C available on the Internet%3F%0D%0A82. What about Bin Laden%27s statements on Al-Jazeera in June 2001 about the bombing of USS Cole%2C which are similar to the statements on the November 2001 home video%3F %0D%0A83. Why did Bin Laden state in Umman Magazine in Sept. 2001%2C that he was not involved in the WTC%3F %0D%0A84. Is Bin Laden still on the payroll of the CIA or ISI%3F%0D%0A85. Did the Bin Laden Group Inc. help build ToraBora with the CIA%3F%0D%0A86. What was the purpose of the meeting with General Pervez Musharraf in May 2001%3F%0D%0A87. Why was a statement released that Al-Khalifa bin Laden%2C who is not the mother of Bin Laden%2C had a telephone call with Bin Laden on September 9%2C rather than Alia Ghanem%2C his mother%3F Why did Alia Ghanem say she did not believe he planned the attack%3F %0D%0A%0D%0AANTHRAX AND MICROBIOLOGIST DEATHS%0D%0A100. What happened on September 18th%2C when an employee of Batelle Memorial Institute was involved in a so-called anthrax hoax on that day%3F Was he arrested%3F%0D%0A101. Why did the investigation of that case begin in December 2001%3F %0D%0A102. What was in the memo of Dr. Leonard Horowitz%2C a public health consumer advocate and author of %22Death in the Air%22 on October 1%2C 2001%2C almost two weeks before the first anthrax letter was sent from Trenton to the American media building in Boca Raton%3F%0D%0A103.What about his letter of Nov. 13 in which he claimed that BAYER is behind the anthrax infections%3F%0D%0A104. Did US BioDefense laboratories send the anthrax-laced letters to get a new budget for research%3F%0D%0A105. What about the statement of former UN-weapons inspector of Iraq%2C Richard Spertzel%2C who told ABC%2C %22...he knows only five scientists in the USA who would be in the situation to produce such a fine%2C highly developed spore material%22%3F%0D%0A106. Why did it take 48 hours to inform Bob Stevens that he had anthrax%3F%0D%0A107. Why were envelopes never found near Bob Stevens%2C Amelie Lundgren and Mia Nguyen%3F%0D%0A108. How come Microsoft got a hoax anthrax letter from Malaysia on the same day that President Bush said Malaysia might be one of the next targets of the United States%3F%0D%0A109. Why did the FBI never investigate the case Don Wiley%2C a Bioscientist who disappeared 11%2F13%2F01%3F%0D%0A110. Why did the FBI begin to investigate after his body was found on December 22%2C 300 miles away%3F%0D%0AWas there an investigation at the military hydro plant where workers found him%3F%0D%0AWhy did the media write different versions about how%2C when and where he was found%3F%0D%0AWhy did the police report change 2 months later from suicide to an accident%3F%0D%0A111. What was the goal of Bioport in 1997%3F%0D%0A112.Did development of anti-anthrax vaccines begin in 1998%3F %0D%0A113.When did Bioport decide to produce anthrax vaccines%3F%0D%0A114. Was it before or after Sept. 1998 that Admiral Crowe was put in charge of investigations of the August 7%2C 1998 bombings of Embassy Nairobi and Embassy Dar Es Salaam%3F%0D%0A115. Did the schedule for developing anti-anthrax vaccines begin starting in 1998%3F %0D%0A116. When did the US Government ask Bayer for help in developing a vaccine%3F%0D%0A117. When did Bayer start sending the vaccines to the U.S.%3F%0D%0A118. When did Bayer double production of the vaccines%3F%0D%0A119. Was the death of Vladimir Pasechnik investigated%3F He was former director of the Institute of Ultra Pure Biochemical Preparations of the Soviet bio-warfare establishment Biopreparat in November 2001%3F%0D%0A120. How are the deaths of scientists Robert M. Schwartz%2C Dr. Benito Que and Set Van Nguyen explained since all occurred in the same month%3F Is Set van Nguyen related to the anthrax victim Mia Nguyen%3F%0D%0A121. What about the death of Nancy Sonnenfeld %28FEMA-Wife%29%3F%0D%0A122. Why was the NJ Division of Fish and Wildlife examining Anthrax in August 2000%3F%0D%0A123. Do any employees in Trenton have the same handwriting as printed on the Anthrax envelopes%3F%0D%0A124. Is it just a coincidence that the laboratory is also based in Trenton%3F%0D%0A125. Did the FBI ever ask Fort Detrick to examine anthrax spores%3F%0D%0A126. What about the list of 15-20 labs %28maintained by Barbara Rosenzweig%29 who used Fort Detrick spores%3F%0D%0A127. Does the CIA have spores different from those at Fort Detrick%3F%0D%0A128. Why did Tommy Thompson%2C The Secretary of the Department of Health and Human Services%2C%0D%0Aand other Bush cabinet members meet secretly %28i.e. illegally%29 in Oct. 2001 with officials of the Pharmaceutical Research and Manufacturers of America %28PhRMA%29 to develop plans for their Emergency Preparedness Task Force%3F %0D%0A129. Why did he decide on October 25%2C 2001 to ask Congress for another %24500 million to produce Acambis%27s smallpox vaccine%3F%0D%0A130. Why did it take 4.5 hours until Jean Marie Malecki %2C Director Palm Beach County Health Department%2C picked up the phone for employees of the AMI-Building%2C Boca Raton. This is where editor Bob Stevens got anthrax. Why did she wait two days before she visited that building again%3F%0D%0A131. Did Walter Gilbert%2C Director Myriad Genetics ever get official permission from relatives of those killed at WTC to examine their DNA%3F %0D%0A%0D%0AFOREIGN INTELLIGENCE AGENCIES %0D%0A150. Why did General Mahmud Ahmad%2C former head of the ISI quit his position%3F%0D%0A151. Why did retaliation against the Taliban begin the day he stepped down%3F%0D%0A152. Who in the ISI paid %24100.000 to Mohammad Atta%3F %0D%0A153. Why does Ahmad think that another secret service was involved in the WTC attack%3F%0D%0AWhich Secret Service was he referring to%3F Did other ISI official%27s believe that%3F Did officials of the CIA believe that%3F Did some officials of the Mossad believe that%3F%0D%0A154. What was the purpose of Ahmad%27s visit to Washington on 9%2F11%3F%0D%0A155. Who told Russian Foreign Minister Ivanov to abort an air strike against Afghanistan in May 2000%3F%0D%0A156. Did Russian intelligence notify the CIA in 2001 that 25 terrorist pilots had been training for suicide missions%2C as reported in the Russian press%3F %0D%0AKISSINGER%0D%0A1. What did Kissinger mean that an %22outside threat from beyond%22%2C a %22world government%22 and %22individual rights%22 who are %22willingly relinquished for the guarantee of their well-being granted%22%2C what you mentioned in 1991 on a Bilderberg Conference%3F%0D%0A2. What was his role at UNOCAL%3F%0D%0A3. Is he in contact with representatives of these companies or institutions%3A%0D%0A4. What did he discuss at the Bilderberg meeting last year in May 2001%3F%0D%0A5. What was the purpose of his meeting with Moscow Mayor Yuri Luzhkov in July 2001%3F%0D%0A6. Why does he write in %22Toward a New Diplomacy for the 21st Century%22 that America doesn%27t need a Foreign Policy%3F%0D%0A7. When was the last time Henry Kissinger met US-Ambassador in Pakistan%2C Robert Oakley%3F %0D%0A%0D%0ATHE PURCHASE OF AIRLINE PUT OPTIONS%0D%0A1. Is it true that the CIA is in possession of PROMIS software%3F%0D%0A2. What is the purpose of PROMIS%3F%0D%0A3. Did A.B. %22Buzzy%22 Krongard%2C CIA%2C own any stocks of United Airlines%2C American Airlines%2C Merrill Lynch%2C 4. Morgan Stanley%2C AXA Re %28insurance%29 which owns 25%25 of American Airlines%2C and Munich Re.%3F%0D%0A5. What is his connection to Alex Brown%2C Deutsche Bank%3F%0D%0A6. Did he give any insider information about to George Tenet%2C CIA%3F%0D%0A7. Who was the investor who purchased 2%2C000 UAL put options between August and September 11%2C 2001%3F%0D%0A8. Did Deutsche Bank-Alex Brown own any stocks of UA%2C AA%2C Merrill Lynch%2C Morgan Stanley%2C AXA Re %28insurance%29 which owns 25%25 of American Airlines%2C and Munich Re%3F%0D%0A9. What about the 2%2C500 UA-contracts which were %22split into 500 chunks each%2C directing each order to different U.S. exchanges around the country simultaneously.%22 on August 10%2C 2001%3F%0D%0A10. Did Deutsche purchase UAL options in August 2001%3F%0D%0A11. Why did DB-AB purchase 4%2C744 put options on United Air Lines stock as opposed to only 396 call s on September 6-7%3F What was the purpose of doing that%3F%0D%0A12. What is the connection to Wally Kromgaard%3F%0D%0A13. Did Deutsche Bank or Wally Kromgaard purchase 4%2C516 put options on American Airlines as compared to 748 call options on September 10%3F%0D%0A14. What was the reason of Mayo Shattuck III re-asssignment on September 15th%3F %0D%0ATHE TALIBAN AND THE CARPET OF GOLD..%0D%0A1. When was the last time they met any representatives of the US-Government%3F%0D%0A2. What was the purpose of these meetings%3F%0D%0A3. Do the Taliban know Karl E. Inderfurth and State Department counterterrorism chief Michael Sheehan%3F%0D%0A4. Do they know which US-Representative said in February 2001%3A %22Either you accept our offer of a carpet of gold%2C or we bury you under a carpet of bombs%22%3F%0D%0A5. When was the last time the Taliban was in touch with this representative%3F%0D%0A6. Did Abdul Haq%2C the former Mujahedin leader executed Sept 2001 by the Taliban%2C decide in Winter 2000 to attack the Taliban%3F%0D%0A7. Did production of opium in Afghanistan fall from 3276 tonnes in 2000 to 185 tonnes in 2001%3F %0D%0AGLOBAL HAWK TECHNOLOGY%0D%0A1. Was Global Hawk technology able to remotelycontrol unmanned planes in 1999 for 27 hours%3F%0D%0A2. Did Northrop-Grumman use Global Hawk technology in the war in Afghanistan since October 2001%3F%0D%0A3. What is the purpose of unmanned technology%3F %0D%0A4. Is Northrup in contact with any engineers of Boeing%3F%0D%0A5. Did Northrup install Global Hawk technology in a commercial airplane%3F %0D%0A%0D%0ACARRIER AND TROOP MOVEMENTS BEFORE SEPT 11%0D%0A1. Did two U.S. carrier battle groups arrive in the Gulf of Arabia just off the Pakistani coast before 9%2F11%3F %0D%0A2. Did 17%2C000 U.S. troops join more than 23%2C000 NATO troops in Egypt for Operation %27Bright Star%27 on 9%2F11%3F What was the purpose of both of these operations%3F %0D%0ABIOCHEMICAL WARFARE%0D%0A1. When did Tommy Franks learn that he would use Thermobarics in ToraBora%3F%0D%0A2. Does he know if it had been tested on December 12 in Nevada%3F%0D%0A3. Who told Franks that Bin Laden might hide in ToraBora%3F%0D%0A4. Is the main purpose of Thermobarics to destroy buried bio and chemical stocks%3F%0D%0A5. Was Thermobarics developed for the purpose to use one day in Iraq%3F%0D%0A6. When was the first time Franks used Thermobarics%3F Was it before or after the announcement of the end of ABM Treaty on December 11%3F%0D%0A7. When did the US decide to use B61-11%2C the %22nuclear version%22 of its %22conventional%22 BLU-113 counterpart%3F%0D%0A8. Why has the NSA destroyed data collected on Americans or US companies since the Sept. 11 attacks%3F %0D%0A%0D%0AABORTED ATTEMPTS TO GET BIN-LADEN%0D%0A1. Why did Clinton abort an attack on Bin Laden in October 1999%3F%0D%0A2. Who was responsible for that operation%3F%0D%0A3. Why was the operation put on hold%3F%0D%0A4. Why did Musharraf halt a covert operation to attack Bin Laden in October 1999%3F%0D%0A5. Why did the GOP in Congress stop almost every move Clinton made against terrorism%3F They refused to believe reports and pass necessary legislation. In 1996 Clinton proposed a very extensive anti-terrorism regulation. %0D%0ARICHARD REID%0D%0A1. Who hired Richard Reid to threaten a passenger plane in Paris%3F%0D%0A2. Who did he send an email to in Pakistan%3F%0D%0A3. Has he ever been in touch with the ISI or CIA%3F%0D%0A4. Did he know the difference between an explosive and a detonator%3F%0D%0A5. How many ounces did he have in his shoes%3F%0D%0A6. What size are his shoes%3F%0D%0A7. Who build or prepared his shoes%3F %0D%0AJOHN WALKER LINDH%0D%0A1. Has John Walker Lindh ever been in touch with the CIA%3F%0D%0A2. Did he ever work for the CIA%3F%0D%0A3. Who arrested him in 2001%3F%0D%0A4. Why didn%27t he escape in the tumult to nearby Masar-e-Sharif%3F%0D%0A5. Who hired his lawyer%2C Richard Brohanan%3F Who paid his lawyer%3F%0D%0A6. Why didn%27t he go to Guantanamo Bay%3F %0D%0ADICK CHENEY%0D%0A1. When did Cheney stop working for Halliburton%3F%0D%0A2. Is he still in possession of any Halliburton stock%3F%0D%0A3. Is he still in contact with Halliburton%3F%0D%0A4. Was Halliburton invited to an oil conference in May 2002%3F %0D%0A5. Does Cheney know when that meeting was planned%3F%0D%0A6. Did Cheney have influence concerning Halliburton contracts with the Pentagon%3F%0D%0A7. What exactly did Cheney decide to do on September 11th%3F%0D%0A8. Did he speak with an Air Force Commander or Lt. Gen. Charles F. Wald on that day%3F %0D%0A9. When did he inform the president about the hijacked airplanes on September 11%3F%0D%0A10. Who called the White House on September 11 at 9%3A30 PM about a possible threat%3F%0D%0A11. Why was no air security at the White House or the Pentagon at 9%3A30 PM%3F%0D%0A12. When and who gave the approval to evacuate the White House at 9%3A45 PM%3F %0D%0A13. What was the purpose of a meeting with Indian opposition leader Sonia Gandhi in June 2001 about a multimillion-dollar debt owed to Enron from a major energy project in Indian Power Plants%3F%0D%0A14. When was the last time Cheney spoke with anyone from ENRON%3F %0D%0ACOLIN POWELL%0D%0A1. What was the role of Colin Powell%3F%0D%0A2. Who decided to give %2443 million in aid to the Taliban regime in May 2001%3F%0D%0A3. Did he know that production of opium in Afghanistan fell from 3276 tonnes in 2000 to 185 in 2001%3F%0D%0A4. What was the purpose of his decision to treat the Taliban prisoners as War Prisoners%3F Is this decision in any way related to media reports 2 days earlier that Powell may have been involved in negotiations with Indian Power Plants%3F%0D%0A5. What was the purpose of his short trip to Latin America on September 11%3F%0D%0A6. Who decided that he fly to Latin America on that day%3F%0D%0A7. Why would someone threaten him in Afghanistan on January 17%2C 2002 as Newsweek reported%3F%0D%0A8. What was the purpose of Powell meeting with India%27s foreign minister on April 6%2C 2001%3F%0D%0A9. Did Enron or Cheney ask Powell to help collect a %2464 million debt on an Indian plant project%3F %0D%0A%0D%0AGEORGE H.W. BUSH%0D%0A1. When was the last time George H.W. Bush traveled to South Arabia on behalf of the Carlyle Group%3F %0D%0A2. What was the purpose of that meeting%3F %0D%0ATHOMAS WHITE%0D%0A1. Is Thomas White still in contact with ENRON%3F%0D%0A2. Did his contact at anytime influence his decisions%3F%0D%0A3. Does he still own ENRON stocks%3F %0D%0ADELMART VREELAND%0D%0A1. Did Vreeland warn Canadian Intelligence in May 2001 about possible terrorist attacks on New York and the Pentagon%3F%0D%0A2. Did he place the warning in an envelope while in prison in Toronto%2C Canada%3F%0D%0A3. Where did he get his information%3F%0D%0A4. Whom did he give the envelope to%3F%0D%0A5. Why was he placed in jail%3F %0D%0A%0D%0ASAUDI-BINLADIN-GROUP.COM%0D%0A1.Was the domain created on September 11th%2C 2000%3F%0D%0A2. Who paid for that domain%3F%0D%0A3. Are they also owners of Iridium Satellites%3F%0D%0A4. When did they end contact with relatives of the Bush family%3F %0D%0ATHE CARLYLE GROUP%0D%0A1. When was the last time George H.W. Bush traveled to Saudi Arabia on behalf of the privately owned Carlyle Group%2C the 11th largest defense contractor in the U.S.%3F%0D%0A2. What was the purpose of that meeting%3F%0D%0A3. When did he resign from Carlyle Group%3F%0D%0A4. Is he still in touch with any of their representatives%3F %0D%0ASTEPHEN LANDER%2C Director MI5%0D%0A1. Did Lander monitor a phone conversation between Zacarias Moussaoui and Richard Reid in Dec. 2000%3F%0D%0A2. What did Lander tell representatives of the CIA about Zacarias Moussaoui%3F%0D%0A3. Why did he stop monitoring Djamel Beghal%2C member of Takfir-wal-Hijra %28financed by Osama bin Laden%29 in August 2001%3F %0D%0ABIN LADEN IN DUBAI%0D%0A1. Did Bin Laden in July 2001 enter an American hospital in Dubai%3F%0D%0A2. Did he arrive on July 4%2C 2001 on a flight from Qetta%2C Pakistan to American Hospital%3F%0D%0A3. Was he at the hospital July 4-11%2C 2001%3F%0D%0A4. Did Bernard Koval%2C CEO of American Hospital%2C ever speak with Doctor Terry Callaway about that visit%3F%0D%0A5. Why did he change his statements about this story not being true and that he %22asked around%22%3F%0D%0A6. What is the difference between Continuous Ambulatory Peritoneal Dialysis and Continuous Cycling Peritoneal Dialysis%3F%0D%0A7. Did Koval know Larry Stevens%3F%0D%0A8. Can Koval explain why Richard Labeviere%2C author of %22Terror Dollars%22 %28about illegal Al-Quaeda accounts%29%2C wrote the story about Osama Bin Laden%27s kidney operation%3F %0D%0AGEORGE W. BUSH%0D%0A1. What exactly happened on September 11 and at what time was President Bush informed%3F%0D%0A2. Why was President Bush scheduled to visit a school in Florida%3F%0D%0A3. Who scheduled the time of the visit%3F%0D%0A4. When exactly did Bush learn about the first crash into the WTC%3F%0D%0A5. How could he have seen that on TV%3F%0D%0A6. Why didn%27t he interrupt his school meeting as soon as he learned of the first plane crash%3F%0D%0A7. Did Bush ever wonder how Bin Laden was able to hear the first plane crash live on the radio%3F%0D%0A8. Which radio station he was listening to%3F%0D%0A9. Can Bush explain how Bin Laden%27s Home Video was found only two weeks after it was produced%3F%0D%0A10. Why did Bush decide to release Bin Laden%27s Home Video%3F%0D%0A11. What is the purpose of the Western Hemisphere Institute for Security Cooperation %28WHISC%29 in Fort Benning%2C Georgia%2C where terrorists have been trained for undercover agents in South America%3F%0D%0ABush stated %22if any government sponsors the outlaws and killers of innocents%2C they have become outlaws and murderers themselves%22. So what does he think about Fort Benning%3F%0D%0A12. What is the role of Zalmay Khalilzad %28former UNOCAL%29 in the National Security Council %3F%0D%0A13. What is the current role of Zalmay Khalilzad %28former UNOCAL%29 in Afghanistan%3F%0D%0A14. When was Bush%27s last contact with anyone from ENRON%3F%0D%0A15. Why was China admitted to the WTO on September 13 after 15 years of unsuccessful attempts%3F%0D%0A16. Why did Bush postpone the release of Ronald Reagan%27s records%3F%0D%0A17. How does Bush feel about the need to investigate the CIA%27s mistakes%3F%0D%0A18. Does Bush agree with senators John McCain%2C Joseph I. Lieberman%2C Porter J. Goss%2C former C.I.A. clandestine case officer and a Florida Republican%2C Richard C. Shelby and Ron Paul%2C US Congressman%2C who want an investigation and have said %22Secret government is winning out over open government%22%3F%0D%0A19. Did he know before he left his hotel that morning on the way to the school that the 1st tower had been hit%3FABC news reported that morning that he was asked by reporters if he was aware of events in NYC and he answered yes. If so%2C why did he later say he first heard of it was when he was at the school%3F %0D%0A20. Why did Bush continue to sit in that classroom reading to children when he should have been conferring with his advisors%3F %0D%0A21. Why did Bush say that he and Card initially thought it was an accident involving a small plane%3F %0D%0A22. Given all the information sources available to the POTUS and his staff how could his people not have known the kind of plane involved%3F %0D%0A23. Why didn%27t they know at this point%2C as did the FAA and NORAD%2C that aircraft were hijacked%3F%0D%0AThe Batallion Chief in the 9%2F11 video was seen and heard asking for military backup immediately after the building was hit. %0D%0A24.How come the NYFD knew it was terrorism right away but the POTUS and his aides just calmly went about their business%3F %0D%0ATONY BLAIR%0D%0A1. Were 25%2C000 British troops and the largest British Armada since the Falkland Islands War%2C part of Operation %27Essential Harvest%27 pre-positioned in Oman%2C the closest point on the Arabian Peninsula to Pakistan before September 11%2C 2001%3F %0D%0A2. When did he begin to place SIS-Special Forces in Afghanistan%3F Why%3F %0D%0ATHE SUN-SENTINEL%0D%0A1. Did Gloria Irish own unit 1504 at the Delray Racquet Club%2C 755 Dotterel%3F%0D%0A2. Did she rent that property to Hamza Alghamdi in August 2001%3F%0D%0A3. Why did the media not report about a connection of the Sun-Sentinel and the hijackers%3F%0D%0A4. Why did it first appear that the hijackers had something to do with the anthrax attacks%3F%0D%0A5. Why has this connection or coincidence never appeared in the media again%3F%0D%0A6. What was the connection between husband Michael Irish %28SunSentinel%29 and Bob Stevens %28who died from Anthrax%29%3F %0D%0A%0D%0AWARNINGS%0D%0A1. When did Vladimir Putin warn the CIA about a possible terrorist attack and what was their reaction%3F%0D%0A2. What was the purpose of the meeting between Christina Rocca%2C director of Asian affairs at the State Department and the Taliban ambassador Mollah Abdul Salam Zaeef in Islamabad in August 2001%3F%0D%0A3. Why did she oversee the delivery of Stinger missiles in the 80s to Afghan mujaheddin%3F%0D%0A4. Did Walid Arkeh in Seminole County jail inform the FBI in August 2001 about an attack on America%3F What was the reaction of the FBI%3F%0D%0A5. Why did Dr. Jeffrey Starr%2C U.S. department of defense%2C visit Tajikistan in Jan 2001%3F%0D%0A6. When did Jean-Claude Cousseran%2C Director DGSE %2C French Secret Service inform the CIA about terrorist attacks on America%3F What was their reaction%3F%0D%0A7. What does he know about the monitoring of Djamel Beghal%2C member of Takfir-wal-Hijra %28financed by Osama bin Laden%29 and Kamel Daoudi%3F Did he ever inform the CIA about that%3F And when%3F %0D%0A8. When did Italian Deputy Prime Minister Gianfranco Fini inform the CIA about a possible attack on the American president %22with the use of an airplane%22%3F What was their reaction%3F%0D%0A9. When did President Mubarak%2C Egypt%2C inform the CIA about a possible attack on America with an %22airplane stuffed with explosives%22%3F What was their reaction%3F%0D%0A10. When did Efraim Halevy %2C Director of Mossad since 1998 %28unconfirmed%29 inform the CIA about a possible attack with %22200 terrorists%22 on America%3F What was their reaction%3F%0D%0A11. Is it true he warned Ariel Sharon not to travel to New York on September 11 to speak at a festival%3F%0D%0A12. Did a caller to Loxley Banks%2C Director Radio Cayman Islands talk show%2C give several warnings of an imminent attack on the U.S on Sept. 3 -10%3F%0D%0A13. The London Times reported that someone from the FAA warned Salman Rushdie not to travel to the United States on September 3rd%3F If this is true%2C who was it%3F %0D%0A14. Did the FBI investigate the two men who met Mohamed Atta and Marwan Al-Shehhi in Harry%27s Bar at the Helmsley Hotel in Manhattan on September 8%2C 2001%3F %0D%0A15. Who does Abdullah Abdullah %28Northern Alliance%29 believe killed Commander Ahmad Shah Massoud on September 9%2C 2001%3F%0D%0A16. When and why did he decide to attack Kabul on September 11 at 5%3A30 PM%3F%0D%0A17. When did he decide to invade Masar-i-Scharif %0D%0A18. Did the CIA helped him provoke a tumult%3F%0D%0A19. Did he ever meet John Walker Lindh%3F%0D%0A20. Why was Major John Kenny%2C Commander Wright Patterson Air Base%2C Dayton placedon high alert on September 10%3F Did he inform companies in Dayton to shutdown their offices%3F%0D%0A21. Why was Colonel William M. Dietrick %2C Commander Defense Language Institute in Garrison%2C Monterey on high alert on September 10%3F%0D%0A22. Why did one of Kenneth %28Ken%29 Weinbrecht %28President SAMS %29 executives say on September 10%2C that he was a %27Wildcard. Ruthless and cunning. Has capability to target US forces and make it look like a Palestinian%2FArab act.%27%22 %0D%0A23. Did Jean-Louis Bruguiere%2C French anti-terrorism%2C inform the CIA on September 10 about a possible terrorist attack%3F If so%2C what was their reaction%3F%0D%0A24. Why did Atta and hijacker Abdulaziz Alomari checke into a Portland%2C Maine motel %28unidentified%29 on September 10%3F%0D%0A25. Why was the Portland%2C Airport%2C according to eye-witnesses%2C in full charge of more military officials and soldiers than usual%2C weeks before September 11%2C 2001%3F%0D%0A26. Why%2C as the San Francisco Chronicle reported%2C was Mayor Brown warned to be %22cautious in your travel%22 the night of September 10%3F Who warned him%3F%0D%0A27. Why did Alex Diamandis%2C Odigo Vice President of Sales and Marketing%2C receive a warning on his messenger service about a possible attack on America on September 11%2C 2001%3F At which time%3F%0D%0A28. When did Dr.August Hanning %2C President BND %28Bundesnachrichtendienst Germany%29 inform the CIA that %22Middle Eastern terrorists are %27planning to hijack commercial aircraft %3F%22 What was their reaction%3F %0D%0ADid he allow an Iranian prisoner in Hamburg call to the CIA in Summer 2001 about an attack on America%3F What was their reaction%3F %0D%0AAIR TRAFFIC CONTROL%2FGLOBAL HAWK%0D%0A1. Why did Kenneth Waldie%2C Stanley Hall%2C Herbert Homer and Peter Gay of Raytheon travel on Sept. 11%3F 2. 2. Can Global Hawk technology be used for at least 27 hours%3F%0D%0A3. Is Global Hawk technology used in commercial airplanes%3F%0D%0A4. Did Danielle O%27Brien%2C air traffic controller%2C inform another air traffic control center about a plane traveling fast southwest of Dulles after spotting it 8%3A18 AM on September 11%3F %0D%0A5. Who was informed and what happened%3F %0D%0ATHE PENNSYLVANIA CRASH%0D%0A1. Why didn%27t Dr. James G. Roche%2C Secretary of the Air Force try to reach the airplanes in NYC %287 minutes time for McGuire AFB in New Jersey %29 and at the Pentagon %2810 minutes time%29%3F%0D%0A2. Did Roche ever try to shutdown the plane in Pennsylvania%3F%0D%0A3. Can Roche explain why magazines of that plane were found 20 miles away from the crash%3F%0D%0AAndrews AFB is 13 miles away. He had one hour and fifteen minutes to respond to the plane that hit the Pentagon. What happened during that time%3F%0D%0A4. Can he explain why many ear- and eye witnesses%2C including workers of the road construction company New Enterprise saw or heard F-16 jets %3F%0D%0A5. Why did President Bush say only one week later that he tried to shutdown that plane%3F%0D%0A6. Who gave that decision%3F %0D%0A%0D%0ADEFENSE ALERTS AND MOVEMENTS%0D%0A1. Why did George Bush leave Barksdale Air Force Base aboard Air Force One and flew to an Air Force base in Nebraska on 1%3A48 PM on September 11 and returned to Washington at 4%3A30 PM%3F%0D%0A2. What exactly did Donald Rumsfeld do that day before he arrived at the Pentagon around 3%3A55 PM%3F%0D%0A3. How did Rumsfeld know at 5%3A30 PM on September 11 that the plane in Pennsylvania could have been headed for one of three possible targets%3A Camp David%2C the White House or the U.S. Capitol building%3F%0D%0A4. Can he explain why early media reports told us that no squadrons of combat-ready fighter jets have been at Andrews and later changed their reports that they haven%27t been on high alert only%3F%0D%0A5. Why was Air Force Lt. Col. Vic Warzinski%2C another Pentagon spokesman%2C so sure on September 11 that aircraft was coming your way%3F%0D%0A6. What did the D.C. Air National Guard in Washington do on September 11%3F%0D%0A7. Can he explain what those 3 fighters did from 9%3A40AM until 9%3A55AM when they finally turned towards Flight 93 and were 60 miles out at 10%3A06am%3F%0D%0A8. Can he explain why Air Traffic Controllers in a Nashua Telegraph article did report an F-16 was circling Flight 93 and was in visual range at the time of crash%3F%0D%0A9. Can he confirm a witness report that National Guard F-16%27s have been at Hancock field in Syracuse NY in the air early that morning before 9AM%3F%0D%0A10. How could the hijackers know how to disable defense systems%3F%0D%0A11. What was the official reason that fighters of the 305th Air Wing%2C McGuire Air Force Base%2C NJ did not%0D%0Aintercept the 2nd hijacked plane in NYC%3F This would have been possible within 7 minutes after 8%3A48 AM%0D%0A12. Why did none of the 459th Aircraft Squadron %28Andrews AFB%29 fighters intercept the plane which crashed into the Pentagon%3F Andrews AFB is 10 miles from Washington DC.%0D%0A13. Col. Ken McClellan%2C Air Force spokesman said on September 11%2C that Mohammad Atta attended the International Officer%27s School at Maxwell%2FGunter Air Force Base in Montgomery%2C and was seen by eye-witnesses%3F What was McClellan doing there%3F Why did he later deny the report%3F%0D%0A14. Why did he decide not to shutdown ECHELON base Bad Aibling in Germany as planned for 2002%3F%0D%0A15. What is the reason that none of any Air Force fighters reached the hijacked plane in time%3F%0D%0A16. Many eye- and witnesses think that the plane in Pennsylvania was shot down. What is the scientific explanation why the magazine of the airplane was found many miles away%3F%0D%0A17. Why did Jack Kelly%2C idefense.com%2C inform USA Today only 12 minutes after the first crash %288%3A48AM%29%2C that terror groups using Web encryption may have been responsible%3F And why was he so sure before the second crash at 9%3A03 PM%3F%0D%0A18. Did Kelly serve with the U.S. government where he managed several significant programs for the information warfare and intelligence communities%3F%0D%0A19. Did Joseph J. Esposito%2C Chief of NYPD try to contact the Pentagon at 9%3A06 AM on September 11%3F What was their reaction%3F%0D%0A10. Why didn%27t General Elwood %22Pete%22 Quesada of the FAA inform President Bush between 8%3A15 and 9%3A05 about four simultaneously hijacked planes%3F Who did he inform and what was their reaction%3F %0D%0ATHE WTC COLLAPSE%0D%0A1. What does Nicholas Scoppetta of FDNY know about the latest reports of the WTC destruction%3F%0D%0A2. Can he explain why many witnesses saw and heard more than two explosions in the WTC%3F%0D%0A3. Can he explain why both Twin Towers and Building 7 collapsed in that way%3F%0D%0A4. Can he explain why a gas tank was in Building 7%3F%0D%0A5. Can he explain why there were no passengers in the subway under the WTC%3F%0D%0A6. Can he explain why there was no guard at the gold reservoir under the WTC%3F%0D%0A7. Why did Dr. Jeffrey P. Koplan%2C Director CDC prepare%2C as CNN reported%2C emergency-response teams on September 11 at 11%3A16 PM%3F %0D%0AMISCELLANEOUS%0D%0A1. When did Dr.August Hanning %2C President BND %28Bundesnachrichtendienst Germany%29 inform the CIA that %22Middle Eastern terrorists are %27planning to hijack commercial aircraft %3F%22 What was their reaction%3F %0D%0ADid he allow an Iranian prisoner in Hamburg call to the CIA in Summer 2001 about an attack on America%3F What was their reaction%3F%0D%0A2. When did Tayseer Allouni %2C Kabul correspondent Al-Jazeera%2C receive his first video from Bin Laden%3F%0D%0ACan he explain why the first video on October 7 2001%2C the day of the retaliation%2C looked like it was recorded in the morning%3F%0D%0A3. Did Tom Simmons %28former U.S. Ambassador to Pakistan%29%2C Karl Inderfurth %28former Assistant Secretary of State for South Asian affairs%29 and Lee Coldren %28former State Department expert on South Asia%29 decide or announce in a July 2001 meeting that an attack was planned on the Taliban in October 2001%3F%0D%0A4. Why did Ms. Barbara Bodine%2C US ambassador to Yemen stop John O%27Neill from investigating Al-Quaeda accounts in July 2001%3F%0D%0A5. Did Niaz Niak%2C former Pakistani Foreign Secretary say in mid July 2001 that the USA planned military action against Osama Bin Laden and the Taliban%3F%0D%0A6. Did Hameed Gul%2C retired Pakistani general of Pakistan%27s Inter Services Intelligence%2C say that a secret service was involved in the attack on America%3F%0D%0A7. Why did Tommy Thompson%2C The Secretary of the Department of Health and Human Services%2C%0D%0Aand other Bush cabinet members meet secretly %28i.e. illegally%29 in Oct. 2001 with officials of the Pharmaceutical Research and Manufacturers of America %28PhRMA%29 to develop plans for their Emergency Preparedness Task Force%3F Why did he decide on October 25%2C 2001 to ask Congress for another %24500 million to produce Acambis%27s smallpox vaccine%3F%0D%0A8. Why did it take 4.5 hours until Jean Marie Malecki %2C Director Palm Beach County Health Department%2C picked up the phone for employees of the AMI-Building%2C Boca Raton. This is where editor Bob Stevens got anthrax. Why did she wait two days before she visited that building again%3F%0D%0A9. Why did Mayor Guilani sell WTC rubble to India for recycling and also China%3F Who made that decision%3F%0D%0A10. What was the purpose of U.S. Ambassador Wendy Chamberlain%27s phone call on October 10%2C 2001 to the Pakistani oil minister%3F Why was she sure that a previously abandoned Unocal pipeline from Turkmenistan across Afghanistan to the Pakistani coast for the purpose of selling oil and gas to China%2C was back on the table in view of recent geopolitical developments%3F%0D%0A11. What exactly was found on Z. Moussaoui%27s computer after 9%2F11%2C when local agents were given a Federal Intelligence Security Act %28FISA%29 warrant%2C which they had requested six weeks previously%3F%0D%0AThis ties directly into the question of the administration%27s dealings with the Taliban%2C its reluctance to investigate Saudi nationals%2C etc.%0D%0A12. Why the attack on Cynthia McKinney for asking%3A 1%29 why has there been no investigation of the 9-11 attack%3F and 2%29 did Bush%2FCIA%2FNSA know of it beforehand%2C and allow it to happen%3F%0D%0A13. Why is the Bush administration so strongly against a real investigation into the events of 9-11%3F%0D%0A14. Why did the US give 43 million dollars to Afghanistan back in May or June of 2001%0D%0A15. Why did Bush toss the Hart-Rudman terror security study %28developed over a 2 year period%29 and instead assign responsibility to Cheney and FEMA%3F%0D%0A16. Why did Ashcroft stops flying commercial%2C citing an unidentified %22threat%22 in July 2001%3F%0D%0AWhy did the FBI and Justice not identify the form%2C origin and time of the threat%3F%0D%0A17. Why did Bush stay in Texas for the month of August and Cheney in Wyoming%3F %0D%0A18. Why no photos or videos of the Pentagon plane%3F And there%27s not a single credible frame of film or second of video of this%3F Also%2C why hasn%27t a similar flight path graphic ever been published%3F%0D%0A19. Why didn%27t the Secret Service hustle Dubya out of the classroom a half-second after Andy Card told him%2C %22Mr. pResident%2C the nation is under attack%22%3F%0D%0A20. Why did they leave him exposed to danger for two and a half minutes in the classroom and another half-hour in the school before he returned to the relative safety of Air Force One%3F%0D%0A21. Where was George H. W. Bush at the time of the attacks%3F %0D%0A22. Why did passengers or crewmembers on three of the flights tell people on the ground that the highjackers had %22box cutters%22%3F %0D%0A23. Where are the flight recorders%3F %0D%0A24. How did they find a passport that just %22happens%22 to belong to one of the hijackers in the WTC rubble and they can%27t locate even ONE flight recorder%3F %0D%0A25. Why no investigative reporting of the Pentagon scene%3F The photos do not show much%2C but then photographers were not allowed%2C initially%2C to photograph the scene%2C if I remember correctly.%0D%0A26. Why was the series of recommendations Al Gore also put together in 1996 on airport security called by Republican congress %22paranoid%22 and too harsh. Why did the airline industry%2C lobbying against it%2C consider it too expensive and impractical. %0D%0A27. Why was the Hart-Rudman report on the potential dangers of terrorism in the homeland. The results of the research ignored by Bush%3F %0D%0A28. Why were FISA warrants disallowed by Bush%3F %0D%0A29. Why did the US pull the plug on Muslim websites Monday September 10%2C 2001%3F %0D%0A30. Why did the Saudi bin-Laden-group have a website with a PRE-SET expiration date of Sept. 11%2C 2001%3F %0D%0A31. Why were the bin Ladens flown out of the U.S. on private jets the day after the 9%2F11%3F %0D%0A32. Why did Cheney say that everyone in the White House started taking Cipro on September 12 when the first anthrax letter wasn%27t postmarked until September 18. 33. Why did Bush dissolve the Bin Laden Task Force%3F %0D%0AWhat would have happened had this focused and knowledgeable group been in place 9 months before 911%3F%0D%0A34. Why was metallic debris found 8 miles from the crash site of the plane that went down in Penn%3F They said it went straight down and left a small hole in the ground. If they found metallic debris from the plane 8 miles away it was either shot down or a bomb exploded in the plane. %0D%0A35. Why did they not let the media or any reporters take video or photos of the crash site%3F %0D%0A%0D%0AOperation Northwoods%3A%0D%0A%0D%0AFriendly Fire%0D%0ABook%3A U.S. Military Drafted Plans to Terrorize U.S. Cities to Provoke War With Cuba %0D%0ABy David Ruppe %0D%0AN E W Y O R K%2C May 1 - In the early 1960s%2C America%27s top military leaders reportedly drafted plans to kill innocent people and commit acts of terrorism in U.S. cities to create public support for a war against Cuba. %0D%0ACode named Operation Northwoods%2C the plans reportedly included the possible assassination of Cuban %E9migr%E9s%2C sinking boats of Cuban refugees on the high seas%2C hijacking planes%2C blowing up a U.S. ship%2C and even orchestrating violent terrorism in U.S. cities. %0D%0AThe plans were developed as ways to trick the American public and the international community into supporting a war to oust Cuba%27s then new leader%2C communist Fidel Castro. %0D%0AAmerica%27s top military brass even contemplated causing U.S. military casualties%2C writing%3A %22We could blow up a U.S. ship in Guantanamo Bay and blame Cuba%2C%22 and%2C %22casualty lists in U.S. newspapers would cause a helpful wave of national indignation.%22 %0D%0ADetails of the plans are described in Body of Secrets %28Doubleday%29%2C a new book by investigative reporter James Bamford about the history of America%27s largest spy agency%2C the National Security Agency. However%2C the plans were not connected to the agency%2C he notes. %0D%0AThe plans had the written approval of all of the Joint Chiefs of Staff and were presented to President Kennedy%27s defense secretary%2C Robert McNamara%2C in March 1962. But they apparently were rejected by the civilian leadership and have gone undisclosed for nearly 40 years. %3Cbr%3E %0D%0AThe documents show %22the Joint Chiefs of Staff drew up and approved plans for what may be the most corrupt plan ever created by the U.S. government%2C%22 writes Bamford. %0D%0AThe Joint Chiefs even proposed using the potential death of astronaut John Glenn during the first attempt to put an American into orbit as a false pretext for war with Cuba%2C the documents show. %3Cbr%3E %0D%0AReflecting this%2C the U.S. plan called for establishing prolonged military - not democratic - control over the island nation after the invasion. %0D%0A%22That%27s what we%27re supposed to be freeing them from%2C%22 Bamford says. %22The only way we would have succeeded is by doing exactly what the Russians were doing all over the world%2C by imposing a government by tyranny%2C basically what we were accusing Castro himself of doing.%22 %3Cbr%3E %0D%0AThe secret plans came at a time when there was distrust in the military leadership about their civilian leadership%2C with leaders in the Kennedy administration viewed as too liberal%2C insufficiently experienced and soft on communism. At the same time%2C however%2C there real were concerns in American society about their military overstepping its bounds. %0D%0AThere were reports U.S. military leaders had encouraged their subordinates to vote conservative during the election. %3Cbr%3E %0D%0A%22The scary thing is none of this stuff comes out until 40 years after%2C%22 says Bamford. %0D%0A%3Chttp%3A%2F%2Fabcnews.go.com%2Fsections%2Fus%2FDailyNews%2Fjointchiefs_010501.html%3E %0D%0AMy friends call me conspiracy theorist. I was not like this till bu%24h became pResident. Do you think that it%27s possible that the old war lords who surround bu%24h are capable of something like this%3F Did we have an Operation 9-11%3F Is it possible%3F Remember it%27s happened before%21 Didn%27t bu%24h just add Cuba to his inane %22Axis of Evil%22 loop%3F Thin%0D%0A%0D%0A%0D%0APrimary evidence%3A%0D%0Ahttp%3A%2F%2Fwww.questionsquestions.net%2Fp01_primary.html%0D%0A%0D%0A|0
109|2|Best post in the Thread%21%21|Sophia4Truth||16:07:23|06/16/2002|Thank you for this%21%21 It put EVERYTHING together in one place. I have copied this to my hard drive%2C for future reference. %3A%29%0D%0A%0D%0A%0D%0A%0D%0A%5Bfont color%3D%22%23333333%22 size%3D%221%22 face%3D%22Verdana%22%5D%22If this were a dictatorship%2C it%27d be a heck of a lot easier%2C just so long as I%27m the dictator.%22 George W. Bush%0D%0A%0D%0A%5B%2Ffont%5D|41
42|1|Who are you fooling%3F|Downwiththechimp||15:36:52|06/15/2002| Where are your values%3F%0D%0A%0D%0A I can%27t tell the difference between you and the Repubs anymore. %0D%0A%0D%0A There is a growing number of Americans that feel they have been abandoned by their leaders.%0D%0A%0D%0A Stop being wimps and speak up%21 It%27s no wonder you guys are losing votes to Nader.%0D%0A%0D%0A The Repubs are playing the Greens against you%2C and by not speaking up are falling right into their trap.%0D%0A%0D%0A It%27s time to speak out against this crooked administration and reunite the party. Otherwise we are slipping furthur and furthur towards a dictatorship.%0D%0A %0D%0A Or is this what you want%3F|0
43|1|Take off the pink tutus............|DumpGump||15:38:56|06/15/2002|grow a set and start fighting this fascist regime. The time has come to %22not be nice anymore%22. You%27ve given the appointed pResident carte blanch so far in his %22war on terra%22. With each day you dawdle%2C toady up to%2C and cower against this administration%2C your base dwindles. We the people of the democrat party want leaders who are not afraid to take a chance. I don%27t care if you screw up%2C at least make an attempt.|0
44|1|Please listen to the voices|bluedog||15:43:09|06/15/2002|of the Democrats...We did not elect bush....we do not stand behind this spoon fed moron.......Investigate 9-11 to the fullest.read this DU board and try to connect the dots yourselves.bush knew%2C damn it and you are letting him get away with Treason and giving him your permission to put the country into a Hitler type country....%0D%0AThe money is long gone.if we can not trust our Democratic Leaders to stop bush and stop the ass kissing%2C then you need not count on our votes when your time comes up%21%21%21%21%0D%0A%0D%0A%5Bfont color%3D%22%23333333%22 size%3D%221%22 face%3D%22Verdana%22%5DUnited We Stand............%5B%2Ffont%5D|0
45|1|Stand up and FIGHT%21%21%21%21|ccinamon||15:45:05|06/15/2002|Take the gloves off -- this is OUR country%2C OUR democracy that you need to be fighting for.  %0D%0A%0D%0ADon%27t let the BushNAZI%27s get away with ANYTHING%21%21%21%0D%0A%0D%0AAs soon as I see the leadership in Congress supporting McKinney%2C supporting Kucinich and telling Bush he%27s wrong%2C I will donate 100 dollars to the DNC.%0D%0A%0D%0A%0D%0A%5Bfont color%3D%22%23333333%22 size%3D%221%22 face%3D%22Verdana%22%5D%0D%0A%5Bfont color%3Dpurple size%3D2%5D Proud member of the Grassy Knoll Society http%3A%2F%2Fradicalfringe.freeservers.com%2Fimages%2Fgns.gif%5B%2Ffont%5D%5B%2Ffont%5D|0
47|1|DNC|methinks2||16:16:16|06/15/2002|If they could produce a candidate who would stand for a return to our original ammendment rights%2C all of them%2C they could pick up a lot of voters. I know a lot of people who vote republican simply because they believe in their 2nd ammendment rights.  But on other issues they have a more democratic or civil libertarian view point.    I challenge them to produce a candidate I could vote proudly for instead of my usual dilemna of who is the lesser of two evils. |0
48|1|Jimmy Carter is Right --  End the Cuban Embargo and Travel Ban%21%21|guajira||16:20:50|06/15/2002|Even Cuban dissidents want this - what the hell is wrong with our Congress and Senate for allowing this cold-war dinosaur to continue%3F%3F%3F%0D%0A%0D%0A%5Bfont color%3D%22%23333333%22 size%3D%221%22 face%3D%22Verdana%22%5D%3Abounce%3A Congress CAN and SHOULD end Cuban embargo and travel ban - immediately%21%0D%0AUS Customs Agents should be arresting terrorists -- NOT arresting Americans for going to Cuba%21%21%5B%2Ffont%5D|0
49|1|Stop worshipping poll numbers....|buckleyd2||16:22:33|06/15/2002|Stop genuflecting for this illegitimate administration.  Start criticizing loudly and defiantly.  Stop running away screaming like little girls every time Cheney snarls.  Stop being so afraid of the media%2C and scared to call them on their conservative biases.  Stop ignoring the coup of December 2000%2C and the disenfranchised voters.  Stop acting all sissified and weak every time the media tries to get you to say something bad about the prosperous Clinton%2FGore years.%0D%0A%0D%0AStart a definitive%2C merciless rapid-response team to counter the lies of evil Republicans and mass media.  Step up the grass roots efforts so that we can get our word to the sheep.  Start openly supporting President Gore.%0D%0A%0D%0AIn short%2C stop being half-baked pansies and get up off your ass and fight%2C or else the right-wing nuts will steal every damn election this year.|0
50|1|We Are The Party of Peace and Prosperity|heidiho||16:27:07|06/15/2002|Soon the nation will have enough of %22war%22 and %22recession%22 and I know they are already looking longingly back at the 90%27s when we had relative peace in the world and economic prosperity under the Democrats.  They need to ask America %22Are you better off now than you were two years ago%3F%22%0D%0AI believe the national psyche is bruised and battered and in desperate need of some Democratic soothing.  |0
51|1|DO YOUR JOB AND QUIT KISSING UP TO THE ENEMY.|playahata1||16:28:56|06/15/2002|N%2FT|0
52|1|Why don%27t you print this and make|ignatius||16:29:48|06/15/2002|copies to pass out.  Put the website on there and tell them what a great place this is filled with intelligent democratic people who care about our country and the people in it.  Tell them it is a great place to get a true feeling for what people are feeling.  Let them know there is a fantastic amount of research on this site%2C in fact%2C it is filled with more news than we ever see in the papers or on TV.%0D%0A%0D%0AI am thrilled for you%2C enjoy and thank you for your efforts.|0
53|1|We need national visible leadership |Lee Templeton||16:42:54|06/15/2002|The Democratic Party at the grassroots is the strongest%2C most vibrant that I%27ve have seen in decades. At every meeting and action%2C I find Democrats with passion%2C anger%2C and a commitment to the long%2C hard road of work ahead. There is no doubt that many of us%2C myself included%2C were galvanized by the illegalities of the 2000 election and the usurpation of our electoral process by the Supreme Court. Some Democratic party leaders are emerging as strong%2C charismatic speakers articulating the rage%2C energy%2C and determination of the people%3A Sen. Paul Wellstone%2C Rep. Cynthia McKinney%2C Rep. Barbara Lee%2C Sen. Barbara Boxer%2C Rep Henry Waxman are examples. Though receiving scant media coverage%2C their words and actions fly by word of mouth and email post throughout America and around the globe. CNN%27s Crossfire has a wide online following as well. %0D%0A%0D%0AIt is a testimony to the Democrats of America that a strong web community of many sites and interconnections has developed in such a short period of time. That community offers an untapped source of fierce%2C loyal support. Members of the community are articulate%2C informed%2C and action-oriented. It is time for the DNC to facilitate that potential strength into victory. It is time for a leader to step forward and speak with our voice. %0D%0A|0
54|2|Apologize for dupe post|Lee Templeton||16:43:23|06/15/2002|I was unclear on where you wanted the message.|53
55|1|Tell Bush history of crimes.|swinney||16:48:40|06/15/2002|Gore failed. Get Congressmen and Democratic spokesmen on TV to shout it%3A%0D%0ADraft Dodger%0D%0ACriminal Military Deserter%0D%0ACriminal Baby Killer%0D%0ACriminal Cocaine Snorter%0D%0ACriminal Drunkard%0D%0ACriminal Insider Trader%0D%0AAdulterer%0D%0APathological Liar%0D%0ADyslexic%0D%0A%0D%0Aclarence swinney|0
56|1|Very Partisan Democrat Activist|Tippthis||17:16:16|06/15/2002|I have never voted for anyone but the democrats candidate for any office.  I work for the Rendell Campaign and have worked for and contributed to many democrats over the years. %0D%0AI will be voting for Al Gore in 2004. I sure hope your candidate and my ballot are in agreement.|0
57|1|Tell them they need to ...|Pepperbelly||17:32:26|06/15/2002|preach at least a little bit to the choir%21%0D%0A%0D%0AI feel left out with their sucking up to Zippy and his thugs%2Fthugettes to court some of Zippy%27s 65-70%25 approvals.  They need to remember those of us who are already on their side and every now and then%2C throw us a little red meat or at least a bone with some gristle left on it.%0D%0A%0D%0AIs that asking to much%3F%0D%0A%0D%0ABox the rat-bastard%27s ears from time to time.  As Aunt Polly said in Tom Sawyer when she smacked Tom for the jam that Sid stole%3A %22It ain%27t a lick amiss.%22%0D%0A%0D%0A%0D%0A%5Bfont color%3D%22%23333333%22 size%3D%221%22 face%3D%22Verdana%22%5DHow many times do you have to get hit on the head before you realize who%27s hitting you%3F  %0D%0A%0D%0AHarry S. Truman%0D%0A%0D%0Ahttp%3A%2F%2Fwww.zippythepinhead.com%2Fmedia%2Fziplogo.gif%0D%0A%0D%0A%5B%2Ffont%5D|0
58|1|Find a Spine for goodness sakes.....|leftchick||18:05:20|06/15/2002|They need to come to DU on a regular basis for invaluable information and insight....there also needs to be some spine in the Democratic leadership....Chimps poll numbers are down for Gosh sakes ....it is time to come out of their holes and DO SOMETHING ...SPEAK UP....TAKE A CARVILLE PILL FOR CRYING OUT LOUD%21%21%21%21.....thanks I feel better now. |0
59|1|Through open the bank vault doors%2C especially in key states.|Rebellious Republican||18:31:36|06/15/2002|Now is not the time to be miserly with the party war chest. Start spending some money on campaigns. %0D%0A%3Awow%3A|0
60|1|How come we are not hammering them on the economy.....|Rebellious Republican||18:35:23|06/15/2002|we shouild be taking advantage of Wall streets failings.|0
61|1|We are the party that cares for people|TrogL||18:39:19|06/15/2002|The Repugs are the party that cares for business.%0D%0A%0D%0AThe Dem%27s need to take a swing to the left.%0D%0A%0D%0AHealth Care%0D%0ASeniors%0D%0ACivil Rights%0D%0A%0D%0A%0D%0ATake back the media - or support CBS and whatever fragments of liberal press remain.%0D%0A%0D%0AConnect the dots.  Do everything possible to prove White House coomplicity in 9-11%2C then beat the suckers into the ground.|0
62|1|Repeal the Patriot Act %21%21%21%21  |PsychoDad||18:42:28|06/15/2002|Do Your Jobs. Support the constitution. Stop empowering the Bush Regime.%0D%0A%0D%0AIn Liberty%3B%0D%0A%0D%0A%5Bfont color%3D%22%23333333%22 size%3D%221%22 face%3D%22Verdana%22%5DPsYChOdAd%0D%0A%0D%0A%22Neither was there any among them that lacked%3B for as many as were possessors of lands or houses sold them%2C and brought the prices of things that were sold%2C And laid them down at the apostles feet%3A and distribution was made unto every man according as he had need.%22 Acts 4%3A34 %0D%0A%0D%0A%22From each according to their ability%2C to each according to their need.%22 Karl Marx. %0D%0A%0D%0ABe sure to visit Uncle Selrach at%0D%0Ahttp%3A%2F%2Fwww.uncleselrach.homestead.com%0D%0A%0D%0A%5B%2Ffont%5D|0
63|1|Your not in Vichey anymore|tmfun||18:43:55|06/15/2002|Grow some balls and kick some Republican Ass.  Our country and everything it was founded on and stands for is being assulted daily by the Bushit Administration%2C yet you are silent.  Complicity is NOT acceptible.  Many of us progressive thinkers have left the Dem party because they roll over and play republican all the time.  God bless the few with real patriotic Guts like Cynthia McKinney%21  Give me a reason to come back to the Democratic party.  Sucking up to That unelected bunch of Terrorists is not going to do it.  Personally%2C I am much more afraid of the Bush administration than I am of the so called evil-doers.|0
65|2|While you are at it|tmfun||18:47:24|06/15/2002|Beware of another October surprise.  Expect the UNDECLARED war on Iraq to begin in time to shape the elections.  Trust me%2C these people don%27t know a trick too dirty to pull as long as they can stay in power.  Start acting now to slip some quotes into the media saying that you expect this and force them to have to forgoe that tactic.|63
66|1|Find a focus|T Roosevelt||18:48:59|06/15/2002|Here are some issues%2Ftalking points I think should be formulated into a DU %22platform%2Fvision%22 to carry to the DNC%3A%0D%0A%0D%0A- present America with the DNC vision of the future%0D%0A- vision for the future not based in the past%0D%0A- champions of democracy%0D%0A- protecting our Constitutional rights%0D%0A- fight the good fight - don%27t back down%0D%0A- reestablish America%27s as leader of peace and democracy%0D%0A- find and destroy the root cause of terrorism%0D%0A- USA Patriot Act is unconstitutional%0D%0A- National Missle Defense system is not worth the money%0D%0A- hydrogen and alternative energy instead of oil and fossil fuel%0D%0A- independent investigation of 9%2F11%0D%0A- independent investigation of Enron%0D%0A- independent investigation of Halliburton%0D%0A- investigation of Supreme Court actions regarding Florida votes%0D%0A- investigation of Venezuelan coup involvement%0D%0A- education should be a priority%0D%0A- universal health care%0D%0A- reevaluation of income tax distribution%0D%0A- repeal of the Bush tax cuts%0D%0A- strengthening of environmental policies%0D%0A- publicly funded campaigns%0D%0A- free campaign airtime%0D%0A- return to budget surpluses%2Ffiscal responsibility%0D%0A- elimination of National Debt%0D%0A- elimination of nuclear weapons%0D%0A- reevaluation of Yucca Mountain%2Fnuclear waste solution%0D%0A- media reregulation%0D%0A%0D%0AAbove all%2C present America with a vision and a reason to follow.|0
67|1|Get Some BALLS%2C COJONES%2C TESTES To go along with the|dr_j||18:51:46|06/15/2002|stainless-steel ovaries of Barbara Lee%2C Cynthia McKinney and %28no surprises%29 Hilary Clinton...%0D%0A%0D%0AGet out in front or get out of the way%21%0D%0A%0D%0A%5Bfont color%3D%22%23333333%22 size%3D%221%22 face%3D%22Verdana%22%5D%5Bb%5D%0D%0A%22Why%2C of course the people don%27t want war ... But after all%2C it is the leaders of the country who determine the policy%2C and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along%2C whether it is a democracy%2C or a fascist dictatorship%2C or a parliament%2C or a communist dictatorship...Voice or no voice%2C the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is to tell them they are being attacked%2C and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger.%22%5B%2Fb%5D --H. Goerring%0D%0A%0D%0A%5Bb%5D%22If you ain%27t scared%2C you ain%27t right%21%22%5B%2Fb%5D --Taj Mahal%0D%0A%0D%0A%5Bb%5D%22Who needs a smoking gun%3F We Had TWO smoking towers%21%22%5B%2Fb%5D --%7Bdr.j%7D%0D%0A%0D%0A%5Bb%5D%22Democracy took a vacation in Florida%2C and all we got was this stinking little Prezidunce.%22%5B%2Fb%5D%0D%0A%0D%0A%5Bb%5DTYBOB%3A %5Bi%5DTurn Your Back On Bush%5B%2Fb%5D%5B%2Fi%5D%0D%0A%5B%2Ffont%5D|0
104|2|Do not give up on the Central Valley in California|bo44||13:47:39|06/16/2002|%5Bfont color%3D%22%23333333%22 size%3D%221%22 face%3D%22Verdana%22%5DHe was walking down the street. Not %0D%0Areally the street%2C but the sidewalk. %0D%0AAnd not really walking%2C but striding %0D%0Athese long strides where only his %0D%0Atoes touch the ground while his arms %0D%0Aswing militarily. He was toewalking %0D%0Ahis ass down the sidewalk to %0D%0Anowhere with this intense scrunch to %0D%0Ahis face. The scrunchy look of %0D%0Asomebody searching for answers to %0D%0Aquestions. Questions that need to be %0D%0Aanswered but for which there is no %0D%0Asane way to ask them. Did he know%3F %0D%0AShould I tell him%3F Or should we wait %0D%0Afor the whore%3F %0D%0A%0D%0A%5B%2Ffont%5D|67
68|1|The E-M spectrum is a national resource%2C and should be regulated|0rganism||18:52:53|06/15/2002|In particular%2C the deregulatory practices of recent FCCs have resulted in an under-competitive market place%2C where stories are arbitrarily spiked and spun to the whims of the wealthy owners. The E-M spectrum used to broadcast this overwhelmingly conservative propaganda is a public trust%2C not to be sold off willy-nilly to the highest bidder.  Break the media monopolies%2C or they %5Bi%5Dwill%5B%2Fi%5D break the Democratic party.%0D%0A%0D%0A%5Bfont color%3D%22%23333333%22 size%3D%221%22 face%3D%22Verdana%22%5D%5Bfont color%3D%22%23333333%22 size%3D%221%22 face%3D%22Verdana%22%5D%5Btable align%3D%22top%22 border%3D%220%22 cellspacing%3D%220%22 cellpadding%3D%220%22 %5D%5Bth align%3D%22left%22%5D%5Bfont size%3D%221%22%5DWe put the USA in Usama%21%5B%2Ffont%5D%5Bth align%3D%22right%22%5D%5Bfont size%3D%221%22%5Dhttp%3A%2F%2Fwww.worldwar3report.com%5B%2Ffont%5D%5Btr%5D%5Btd%5D%5Bhr%5D%5Btd%5D%5Bhr%5D%5B%2Ftr%5D%5Btr%5D%5Btd align%3D%22left%22 %5D%5Bfont size%3D%221%22 style%3D%22Verdana%22 color%3D%22333333%22%5DAnd we%27re marching to Bastille Day%5B%2Ffont%5D%5Btd align%3D%22right%22%5D%5Bfont size%3D%221%22 style%3D%22Verdana%22 color%3D%22333333%22%5DMy blood is bruised and borrowed.%5B%2Ffont%5D%5B%2Ftr%5D%5Btr%5D%0D%0A%5Btd align%3D%22left%22 %5D%5Bfont size%3D%221%22%5DLa guillotine will claim her bloody prize%5B%2Ffont%5D%5Btd align%3D%22right%22%5D%5Bfont size%3D%221%22%5DYou thieving bastards.%5B%2Ffont%5D%5B%2Ftr%5D%5Btr%5D%5Btd align%3D%22left%22 %5D%5Bfont size%3D%221%22%5DSing%2C o choirs of cacophony %5B%2Ffont%5D%5Btd align%3D%22right%22%5D%5Bfont size%3D%221%22%5DYou have turned my blood cold and bitter%2C%5B%2Ffont%5D%5B%2Ftr%5D%5Btr%5D%5Btd align%3D%22left%22 %5D%5Bfont size%3D%221%22%5DThe king has kneeled%2C to let his kingdom rise %5B%2Ffont%5D%5Btd align%3D%22right%22%5D%5Bfont size%3D%221%22%5DBeat my compassion black and blue.%5B%2Ffont%5D%5B%2Ftr%5D%5Btr%5D%5B%2Ftr%5D%5Btr%5D%5Btd align%3D%22left%22 %5D%5Bfont size%3D%221%22%5D%5Bi%5DRush%5B%2Fi%5D%2C Bastille Day%5B%2Ffont%5D%5Btd align%3D%22right%22%5D%5Bfont size%3D%221%22%5D%5Bi%5DTool%5B%2Fi%5D%2C Ticks And Leeches%5B%2Ffont%5D%5B%2Ftr%5D%5B%2Ftable%5D%5B%2Ffont%5D%5B%2Ffont%5D|0
69|1|There%27s really nothing I can add to this list |freddie57||19:06:18|06/15/2002|I would say to remember who you are%2C and who you have been chosen to represent. I would say stand up on your legs and fight back%2C I don%27t plan on going under without a fight. I would say to do everything possible to put a light on this secretive misadministration%2C make all records open%2C enforce foia%2C make them answer immediatelly to every question being raised.%0D%0A%0D%0A%5Bfont color%3D%22%23333333%22 size%3D%221%22 face%3D%22Verdana%22%5DWhat we obtain too cheap we esteem too lightly%3B it is dearness only that gives everything its value.%0D%0ATom Paine %22The American Crisis%22 23 Dec 1776%0D%0A%0D%0A%0D%0APRETZELISTA%21%21%21%21%0D%0A%0D%0AGo Kerry 04%0D%0A%0D%0AProud member of the GRASSY KNOLL SOCIETY%5B%2Ffont%5D|0
71|1|Election 2000 and future elections|Marciekk2||20:03:52|06/15/2002|Why has nothing been done about the stealing of election 2000%3F  And what will be done in the future to keep the same thing from happening again%3F  Why even HAVE democrats if the republicans are going to keep votes from being counted%3F  In my opinion%2C NOTHING should be done in Congress until this issue is resolved per the constitution%2C state and federal election laws. Continuing with business as usual only legitimizes this unelected administration. Why is no one in jail%3F  Why are Jeb Bush and Katherine Harris not answering for the election fraud in Florida%3F  Why aren%27t the 5 USSC justices being charged with treason%2C dereliction of duty or some other heinous crime to answer for the gross abuse of power and subversion of democracy that they have thrust upon America in politically selecting a President who was not the people%27s choice%3F  This is the elephant in the livingroom that no one is talking about%2C and nothing will be right ever again until it is rectified.|0
73|1|Bill Clinton left the country in great shape.|pscot||20:33:24|06/15/2002|We were at peace. The budget was in surplus as far as the eye could see. There were plans to pay down the deficit%2C which would have guaranteed the solvency of Social Security for the next 50 years. In a brief 18 months that legacy has been squandered by a feckless Republican administration%2C which seems to have as its chief objective the establishmnt of a permanent oligarchy based on inherited wealth. Crony capitalism is the order of the day and the result has been a disaster for the economy. The Bushies are incompetent stewards. They came in with a set of lunatic pre-conceptions and have tried to make reality fit their vision. It%27s not working. They dropped the ball on BinLaden and his thugs%2C both before and afte 9%2F11. They have mis-managed the economy to a fare-thee-well. They have trashed the environment and dismantled the treaty structure that held things together for fifty years%2C without any clear idea of what to put in its place. With no enemy in view but a bunch of shoeless islamic fanatics they have inflated the military budget to the point where we%27re outspending the rest of the world combined%2C and we%27re still jumping at our own shadows. And they weren%27t even honestly elected.%0D%0A%0D%0AWe%27ve been letting these bastards define us for the last 20 years. If best the leadership can do in response is become faux Republicans then the Party and the Nation are in big trouble. As Harry Truman said%2C if you give voters a choice between a Democrat acting like a Republican and a real Republican%2C they%27ll vote Republican. Give us a real choice. Take the Country back from the corporate oligarchs who are running things. Give us back our Democracy.%0D%0A%0D%0A%0D%0A%0D%0A%5Bfont color%3D%22%23333333%22 size%3D%221%22 face%3D%22Verdana%22%5D  %0D%0A%0D%0AWhen trouble arises and things look bad%2C there is always one individual who perceives a solution and is willing to take command%3B very often%2C that individual is crazy.%0D%0A%0D%0A %0D%0A               %0D%0A%0D%0A %5B%2Ffont%5D|0
74|1|Didn%27t see this thread..so a repost from the other one|SoCalDem||20:46:59|06/15/2002|%0D%0A%0D%0A%5Bfont color%3D%22%23333333%22 size%3D%221%22 face%3D%22Verdana%22%5D%5Bfont color%3D%22%23333333%22 size%3D%221%22 face%3D%22Verdana%22%5D%5Bfont color%3D%22%23008080%22 size%3D%223%22 face%3D%22comic sans MS%22%5D%0D%0A%0D%0APlease give them a copy of my letter I sent out a while back %3B%3B%0D%0A%0D%0A%0D%0A%7E%7E%7E%7E%7E%7E%7E%7E%7E%7E%7E%7E%7E%7E%7E%7E%7E%7E%7E%7E%7E%7E%7E%7E%7E%7E%7E%7E%7E%7E%7E%7E%7E%7E%7E%7E%7E%7E%7E%0D%0A%0D%0ADear Senator%2FCongressman%2Fwoman %3A your name here%0D%0A%0D%0A%0D%0AWell%2C it%27s about that time again.....You know what time that is%2C don%27t you%3F The time I am referencing%2C is MONEY TIME... You need money to finance your campaign%2C and you want ME to part with some of mine... As mush as it pains me to say this%2C I cannot send you money . My %22issues%22 have been totally ignored for so long%2C that I cannot share any of my grocery money with you... %0D%0A%0D%0AI am a middle-class stay at home wife%2C who has at times been a part of the workforce.. The money that my family has%2C is too precious to squander on campaign contributions to people who do not even care about the needs of the middle class..%0D%0A%0D%0AWe have been sold out for so long.. Is it any wonder that the public appears apathetic..%3F%3F Know why%3F%3F ..It%27s BECAUSE WE ARE APATHETIC.. For way too many years we have listened to the promises roll off the lips of the candidates%2C only to be conveniently %22forgotten%22 after the election.%0D%0A%0D%0AThe Democratic Party did not stand up for Democracy in November 2000.. The majority of the party was lukewarm at best in their support of our candidate..The right wingers had no trouble fielding a 24%2F7 cadre of %22Gore-bashing-banshees%22 to remind us hourly that the votes had been counted%2C re-counted and re-re-counted%29..%0D%0A%0D%0AThe Democratic Party was complicit in the %22selling%22 of the public%27s airwaves.. %28By the way%2C you should not %22wonder why you get such bad press...or NO press%22..You handed the communications industry to the Right Wingers%29%0D%0A%0D%0AThe Democratic Party has drifted away from the progressive wing of the party%2C only to find itself to be an insipid clone of the Republican party.. The same promises are made for years on end%2C and eventually%2C we%2C the public%2C begin to realize%2C that we are beating a dead donkey....%0D%0A%0D%0AThe Democratic Party has become obsessed with %22not offending%22 %2C and in the process%2C has about as much %22personality and image %22 as a slice of Velveeta... Some things NEED TO BE SAID ... We all know that Bush has about as much legitimacy as president as Alfred E. Newman%2C but spare us the concilliatory language. It doesn%27t come close to ringing true.. It only reinforces the stereotype of the %22untruthful politician%22...%0D%0A%0D%0AGive up the idea that the Republicans will play fair.. The day that happens%2C will be the day you pack a parka to visit Tahiti..%28But the way Bush is handling the environment%2C that may be sooner than we think%29 %0D%0A%0D%0APay some attention to what the real people are saying..Get yourselves online..Visit the websites of the left-leaning community.. Nothing sounds stupider than a Democratic representative on a talk show who answers...%22 I don%27t know anything about.........or .......%22 I haven%27t heard about...........%22 %2C when the online community has been researching and discussing that very topic for WEEKS... Get out of your bunkers and get with the program..%0D%0A%0D%0AQuit making Helen Thomas %22carry your water%22.. She is the only person in Washington who has questioned this bogus administration.. By making her do it alone%2C you are only marginalizing that brave woman.. Instead of being one of many%2C who dare to question...%2C it turns into...%22Well%2C that%27s just Helen%22...%0D%0A%0D%0AIf you think that %22playing nice%22 will win back the House and hold the Senate%2C you are sadly mistaken.. There are some who will vote democratic to punish Bush%2C but when you advertise yourselves as Republican wannabees%2C you are inviting another disaster...%0D%0A%0D%0AStop treating politics like it%27s a GAME..%22%27My side%2C Your side%22... This is serious stuff to the people out here.. We are the ones worrying about health care%2C social security%2Cpensions%2Ceducation%2Cjobs%2Cenvironment%2Cworld peace%2C to name a few. %0D%0A%0D%0AThese are not abstract %22campaign issues%22 to us%2C they are real life everyday problems.. While you all debate and argue about health care%2C there are people who do not take their child to the doctor%2C because they cannot afford it.. %0D%0A%0D%0AWhile you squabble about education%2C and how to %22fix%22 it%2C there are children being ushered through schools that are %22experimenting%22 with this plan or another.. You do realize that once they are finished with school%2C that%27s it%3F%3F%3F The experiment that did not work%2C just may have been their only chance at education... Who do they see about getting that fixed%3F%3F%3F%0D%0A%0D%0AIt seems to me that you are expecting a lot out of us.. %0D%0A%0D%0AYou expect us the keep the fire burning about the bogus election...%0D%0A%0D%0AYou expect us to donate money to your campaigns.%0D%0A%0D%0AYou expect us to donate time to your campaigns..%0D%0A%0D%0AYou expect us to vote Democratic..and%2C you do not bother to field a Democratic candidate in some races%0D%0A%0D%0AYou expect us to turn out for rallies%2C even though most of you are too afraid to show up and lend support%0D%0A%0D%0AYou expect us to choose sides%2C and voice OUR displeasure at injustice%2C while you are precariously perched atop that fence%0D%0A%0D%0AYou expect us to remain faithful to the Democratic ideals%2C when we see your ideals for sale daily on c-span.%0D%0A%0D%0AYou expect us to be the partisans%2C and sit silently while we see our issues bastardized in the name of bi-partisanship..%0D%0A%0D%0AYou may call it bipartisanship%2C but to us%2C it is consorting with the enemy.. Better to pass NO legislation%2C than to sell out ..%0D%0A%0D%0AIt might not be too late%2C but there are some things you must do to get MY support and%2For money...%0D%0A%0D%0A1.. Challenge Ex-Governor Bush.... You will incur the wrath of the %22screaming monkey right%22%2C but they hate you already.. You will win the admiration and support of millions of us out here who are tired of waiting for someone ...anyone%2C to step up and tell it like it is..%0D%0A%0D%0A2.. Get back to the progressive roots of the party..%0D%0A%0D%0A3.. Embrace the Green party%2C and their ideas.. They seem to exist in the vacuum that the %22new%22 Democrats created..%0D%0A%0D%0A4.. Sponsor and fight for a return of the Fairness Doctrine..%0D%0A%0D%0A5.. Quit frequenting the %245%2C000 a plate soirees and start holding McCain style town hall forums..%0D%0A%0D%0A6.. The grassroots support is there%2C but the party seems hopelessly out of touch with the common man...%0D%0A%0D%0A%0D%0ASay what you MEAN and MEAN what you say%21%21..We are watching%2C and as much as we despise the ex-governor and his junta%2Cyou still need to earn our respect and support..%0D%0A%0D%0A%0D%0ASincerely.%0D%0A%0D%0Aa voter%0D%0A%0D%0A%0D%0A%0D%0Ahttp%3A%2F%2Fwww.democraticunderground.com%2Fcgi-bin%2Fduforum%2Fduboard.cgi%3Faz%3Dshow_thread%26om%3D21123%26forum%3DDCForumID35%26archive%3D%0D%0A%0D%0A%0D%0A%0D%0A%0D%0A%0D%0A%0D%0A%0D%0A%0D%0A%0D%0A%0D%0A%0D%0A%0D%0A%0D%0A%0D%0A%0D%0A%0D%0A%0D%0A%0D%0A%0D%0A%0D%0A%0D%0A%0D%0A%0D%0A%0D%0A%0D%0A%0D%0A%0D%0A%0D%0A%0D%0A%0D%0A%0D%0A%0D%0A%0D%0A%0D%0A%0D%0A%0D%0A%0D%0A%0D%0A%0D%0A%0D%0A%0D%0A%0D%0A%0D%0A%0D%0A%0D%0A%0D%0A%0D%0A%0D%0A%0D%0A%0D%0A%0D%0A%0D%0A%0D%0A%0D%0A%0D%0A%0D%0A%0D%0A%0D%0A%0D%0A%0D%0A%0D%0A%0D%0A%0D%0A%0D%0A%0D%0A%0D%0A%0D%0A%5Bcenter%5D%0D%0Ahttp%3A%2F%2Fwww.mv.com%2Fipusers%2Fbecky%2Fbar3.gif%0D%0A %0D%0A%5Bfont color%3D%22%232e8b57%22 size%3D%221%22 face%3D%22verdana%22%5D%0D%0A%0D%0A%0D%0A%22With free speech%2C you can gossip%2C criticize%2C attack and nobody is going to send you to jail%22..g.w.bush 9%2F3%2F01%0D%0A%5Bcenter%5D%0D%0A%5Bfont color%3D%22%232e8b57%22 size%3D%221%22 face%3D%22verdana%22%5D%0D%0A%0D%0A%22...Ahm Gonna Wash That Thought Right Outa Yer Brain..%22.%3Anopity%3AGOP Theme Song%0D%0A%0D%0Ahttp%3A%2F%2Fwww.gifs.net%2Fanimate%2Fbar17.gif%5B%2Ffont%5D%5B%2Ffont%5D%0D%0A%0D%0Ahttp%3A%2F%2Fsocaldemocrat.freeservers.com%2Fslide_shows%2Fmore_thumbs%2Frightsized%2520drip..left.gif http%3A%2F%2Fsocaldemocrat.freeservers.com%2Fimages%2Fwtc_5_f.jpg http%3A%2F%2Fsocaldemocrat.freeservers.com%2Fimages%2Fright_sized_drip..right.gif%5Bfont%5D%5B%2Ffont%5D|0
78|2|Oh man%2C that is one awesome letter SoCalDem%21%21|ignatius||21:54:00|06/15/2002|If that doesn%27t get our reps off their butts%2C then there is little hope.%0D%0A%0D%0AKudos to you%21%21%21%0D%0A%0D%0A|74
75|1|My letter to the DNC|madfloridian||21:27:08|06/15/2002|To the DNC%3A%0D%0A%0D%0A1. I have not received an email update since May 10.%0D%0A%0D%0A2. I donate monthly%2C but you keep losing my information like email and%0D%0Amembership. Can never get access to the site.%0D%0A%0D%0A3. Our president is declaring war on the world%2C and we hear nothing from our%0D%0Aown party. WHY%3F%3F%3F%0D%0A%0D%0A4.  Our president is controlling the internet via watchdogs.  We hear%0D%0Anothing from you.%0D%0A%0D%0A5. Al Gore is targeted twice in one trip at a Wisconsin airport....where is%0D%0Ayour indignation%3F  The TSA rep %22stifles her laughter%22 as she responds that no one is given special treatment by security.%0D%0AWhere is your anger%3F%3F%3F%0D%0A%0D%0A7. When are you to stop Him from attacking the world%3F%0D%0A%0D%0A8. Heck%2C my husband and I are moderates and we are irate.  Can you imagine%0D%0Ahow the more liberal democrats feel%3F%0D%0A%0D%0A9.  How does He continue to placate the Saudis without you guys stepping in%3F%0D%0A%0D%0A10. Where are you%3F  You keep wanting money%2C so let us hear you stand up and%0D%0Aholler%21%0D%0A%0D%0A%0D%0A%0D%0A|0
76|1|My thoughts...|warren pease||21:28:19|06/15/2002|[font size="1" color="#FF0000"]LAST EDITED ON Jun-15-02 AT 09:32 PM (ET)[/font][p]As a lifelong Democrat and recent volunteer for the Oregon Democratic Committee%2C I demand that our so-called Democratic leaders stop doing their weekly Bush suck-up routines.  It%27s not necessary to preface every single statement with some version of %22Before I address the question%2C I want to reiterate my support%2C and that of all Americans%2C for the way the president is handling the war or terrorism.%22  Blah%2C Blah%2C Blah.  Stop that nonsense right now.%0D%0A%0D%0AWhy is Bob Graham going out of his way to say that he doesn%27t think there%27s anything to the charges that Bush knew in advance about 9-11%3F  Isn%27t his job to lead an investigation%2C and isn%27t it by definition impossible to know the results of an investigation before it%27s finished%3F  So what the hell is Graham doing sucking up to Bush%3F%0D%0A%0D%0AArticulate a position%2C and give people a reason to want to vote Democratic.  Right now%2C all you%27re giving them is a choice between Bush and Bush Lite.  The original%2C swine that he is%2C is a known quantity.  Why should anyone want to vote for a cheap imitation.%0D%0A%0D%0A%22Vote for us because we%27re not quite as vile as the republicans%22 lacks a little something as a rallying cry.%0D%0A%0D%0AI%27m hoping these TV campaign ads linking prominent Democratic Senators with Bush are last-ditch contingency measures or%2C better yet%2C a joke.  There aren%27t enough barf bags in the country to handle my reaction to watching Dem senators and congresspersons allying themselves with the most incompetent and dangerous man ever to occupy the oval office.%0D%0A%0D%0AThe leadership needs to lead%2C which does not include Gephardt calling a news conference to articulate his support for an Iraq invasion.  Nor does it include Daschle voicing his support for pretty much anything Bush wants to do re the axles of weevils.%0D%0A%0D%0AIf Gephardt and Daschle can%27t lead%2C then apply duct tape to their mouths until November 6%2C then cede their jobs to people who actually seem to want them.  Trent Lott%2C punk that he is%2C got it right when he said it%27s possible to support the troops without supporting the president.  Learn from that.%0D%0A%0D%0AWhen you%27ve got a winning issue%2C play to win.  Do not%2C for example%2C let the GOP off the hook re an independent investigation into 9-11.  We%27ve got the goods on them and can prove%2C at least circumstantially%2C that they knew about 9-11 and let it happen anyway.%0D%0A%0D%0ADems should not have capitulated when the GOP killed the independent investigations.  Dems should have called for a floor vote%2C then tarred the GOP as obstructionists who have something to hide.  They house and senate leaders should have trooped a few hundred members onto the Capitol steps to%2C one by one%2C step in front of the podium and ask%2C %22Why is the administration obstructing open%2C investigations into 9-11%3F%22  %22What does the GOP have to hide%3F%22  %0D%0A%0D%0AAnd when the 9-11 widows and orphans club stages a demonstration demanding an investigation%2C Dems should be there in the hundreds.  It%27s amazing what taking a stand can accomplish%2C and it feels so much better when looking in the mirror.%0D%0A%0D%0ANail Bush and the administration on their financial dealings with the Saudis%2C their ties to Haliburton and Carlyle%2C their cozy relationship with the Taliban early in 2001%2C their ties to Unocal and the Afghan pipeline and%2C perhaps ugliest of all%2C their nearly unanimous record of avoiding military service while having no apparent qualms about sending the sons of average americans off to die for the GOP%27s corporate employers in the energy and munitions industries.%0D%0A%0D%0ANail them on Bin Laden.  He was public enemy number one for six months%2C %22wanted%2C dead or alive%2C%22 and now he%27s %22bin Laden%2C who%3F%22  Bush doesn%27t get to have it both ways.%0D%0A%0D%0ANail him on broken promises to seniors over drug benefits%2C then nail him again for the recent FDA ban against purchasing drugs from Canada.  %0D%0A%0D%0ANail him on his environmental record.%0D%0A%0D%0ANail him and Ashcroft for the damage they%27ve done to the Constitution and the Bill of Rights.  Ask why fighting terrorism means trashing the First%2C Fourth%2C Fifth%2C Sixth%2C Seventh and Eighth amendments%2C as well as habeus corpus and%2C in effect%2C turning this country into just another dismal totalitarian state.%0D%0A%0D%0ANail him on every single lie.   Do the research %28or we%27ll do it for them%29.  Identify every single case in which he%27s promised something and either failed to deliver or perverted the results into a benefit for corporations rather than people.%0D%0A%0D%0ANail him on fuzzy math%2C particularly the bogus tax cut -- really a loan that had to be paid back this year -- and breaking and entering the social security lock box to reward his pals in the armaments industry.%0D%0A%0D%0ARun commercials of some of Bush%27s stupidest%2C unedited remarks and put sit-com laugh tracks on them.  If the American people think he%27s folksy because the networks clean up his bloopers%2C give them a dose of the real thing for a change.  Dirty tricks%3F  Tough luck.%0D%0A%0D%0AGet Aaron Sorkin%27s writers to write your speeches%2C %27cause it%27s clear that they%27re way%2C way ahead of your own speech writers -- Dennis Kucinich excepted.%0D%0A%0D%0ATake a page from the Gingrich book and develop a few key phrases%2C repeated ad nauseum%2C that serve to deliver the democratic message without having to spend 10 minutes explaining everything.  Attention spans are short%2C and the delivery must match them.%0D%0A%0D%0AWhen a Dem like Cynthia McKinney takes a courageous stand%2C don%27t run away from her.  Give her cover%2C support her.  If you%27re going to run away from anybody%2C let it be Miller and Breaux.  Better yet%2C Daschle%2C get something on these guys and control their votes.  Make them respect you%2C because clearly that%27s not the case now.  If they jump parties%2C be prepared to balance their defections with Chaffee%2C maybe%2C or even McCain.  Better yet%2C figure out how got get both the Smiths out in November.  %0D%0A%0D%0AIf Gephardt can%27t even manage to capture enough seats to retake the house in an off-year%2C kick his ass out as minority leader and get somebody who can do the job.  Particularly%2C get somebody who scares people enough that they understand there are severe consequences for defying their wishes.  This is clearly not the case with Gephardt.%0D%0A%0D%0AIt really is the economy%2C stupid.  Hammer Bush ceaselessly over his abysmal economic policies%2C the BUSH recession %28started on his watch%29%2C the market slide%2C the rising unemployment rates %28despite media cheerleading%29%2C %2420M for the airlines and none for the workers - that kind of thing.  %0D%0A%0D%0ARealize that we are%2C in fact%2C fighting class warfare.  It was started by the rich and%2C to nobody%27s surprise%2C they%27re winning handily.  People generally object to the rising differential between rich and poor%2C particularly when they see Skilling and Lay living well off their former employees%27 pension money.  Americans have a wide populist streak.  Tap into it.%0D%0A%0D%0AFire back whenever the GOP calls itself the party of fiscal responsibility.  %0D%0A%0D%0AMake a fair and open stock market a Dem issue.  There%27s borderline panic with every revelation of cooked books%2C crooked accounting practices%2C executive scheming%2C off-shore accounts and the rest.  Worse%2C the SEC is dominated by Busheans%2C who have absolutely no interest in regulating anything.  Make them accountable for the miserable state of investor confidence.%0D%0A%0D%0AFinally%2C introduce legislation to reinstate the Fairness Doctrine and work to block any and all media mergers -- although it%27s maybe a little late%2C given the current concentration.  But unless Dems can get some unbiased face time on TV%2C they might as well throw in the towel %27cause the message is absolutely not getting out now.%0D%0A%0D%0AOf course%2C we don%27t actually know what the message is%2C except Bush is Our God%2C Too.  Nope%2C that somehow doesn%27t resonate in the hearts of the 52 million people who would rather eat razor blades than see Bush in the white house.%0D%0A%0D%0A%0D%0AThat%27s long enough for now.%0D%0A%0D%0A%0D%0AOn edit%3A  Not quite long enough%2C I guess.  Final point.  Scare the hell out of women re abortion rights.  If the GOP controls the judicial committees%2C women are toast.  At least one justice will retire within a year or so -- possible O%27Connor -- and will be replaced with a hard-line anti-choice judge.  And there goes Roe v Wade.%0D%0A%0D%0A%0D%0Awp%0D%0A|0
77|2|Good Show%21 |IndianaGreen||21:36:32|06/15/2002|I agree with you 100%25%2C warren pease. Extremely well articulated. My hat is off to you. If I run into you in the Lounge%2C I%27ll buy you a beer%3B make that several beers%21%0D%0A%0D%0A%3Abeer%3A %3Abeer%3A %3Abeer%3A %3Abeer%3A %3Abeer%3A %3Abeer%3A %3Abeer%3A %3Abeer%3A %3Abeer%3A %0D%0A%0D%0AAnd a toast to your most excellent post%21%0D%0A%0D%0A%3Atoast%3A %3Atoast%3A %3Atoast%3A %3Atoast%3A %3Atoast%3A %3Atoast%3A %3Atoast%3A %3Atoast%3A %0D%0A%0D%0A%0D%0A%0D%0A|76
79|3|In one phrase%2C  %22LISTEN TO BERNIE%21%21%22|revcarol||22:04:59|06/15/2002|Bernie Sanders really has his finger on the pulse of America.He has fought for Americans domestically with solutions%3A drugs from Canada%2C defined benefit plans instead of defined contribution plans%2C No missile defense and outrageous military expenditures so that the admin doesn%27t have to come to Congress to fight wars anyplace and everyplace%2C etc. etc.%0D%0A%0D%0AYou won%27t go wrong if you listen to Bernie%2C and FOLLOW HIS SOLUTIONS.%0D%0A%0D%0ASince you don%27t seem to want to %22complain%22 or %22whine%2C%22 as the other side puts it%2C how about putting forward a POSITIVE PROGRAM WITH REAL SOLUTIONS%21%21 A program of VISION that will draw the BEST from all Americans%2C not just the %22spy on your neighbor%22 cooperation demanded by the Bushistas.%28Get back to you later with my ideas. Got to perform a wedding.%29|77
80|4|I am that lowliest of creatures%2C the threadkiller.|revcarol||23:36:39|06/15/2002|Bump. Surely more than 78 of us want to speak to the leadership. The wedding went fine%2C they%27re married.|79
83|5|Don%27t let the Republicans intimidate you|Lydia Leftcoast||01:02:32|06/16/2002|%22Liberal%22 is not an insult. Claim the adjective proudly. When did you ever see a Republican who was ashamed to be called a conversative%3F%0D%0A%0D%0AWhen people like Cynthia McKinney %28or the whole Congressional Black Caucus%29 speak the truth%2C don%27t shush or ignore them%2C as if they%27re children blurting out embarrassing questions. %0D%0A%0D%0AReach out to the working poor. They are the forgotten people in today%27s America--and the problem cuts across racial lines.%0D%0A%0D%0AThe DLC%27s platform is designed to appeal to corporate contributors%2C not to voters. If the non-voting public were actually so conservative%2C they%27d be voting for Republicans--which they%27re not.%0D%0A%0D%0ATreat G.W. Bush as %22gently%22 as the Republicans treated Clinton. The difference is that you%27ll have some real crimes to investigate.%0D%0A%0D%0AAnd yes%2C Eloriel%2C I agree that you should print out these exchanges%2C make multiple copies%2C and hand them out to every DNC official you can find.%0D%0A%0D%0A%0D%0A%5Bfont color%3D%22%23333333%22 size%3D%221%22 face%3D%22Verdana%22%5D%22Be ye therefore wise as serpents and %0D%0Aharmless as doves.%22--- Matthew 10%3A16%0D%0A%0D%0AThe Biblical tax plan%3A %22For unto %0D%0Awhomsoever much is given%2C of him shall %0D%0Abe much required%22 ---Luke 12%3A48%5B%2Ffont%5D|80
94|4|Amen to that|Armstead||09:09:49|06/16/2002|%3E%3E%3E%3E%22In one phrase%2C %22LISTEN TO BERNIE%21%21%22%22%3C%3C%3C%3C%0D%0A%0D%0ADitto. Even though not technically a Democrat%2CBernie Sanders is one of the most democratic of representatives.%0D%0A%0D%0AHe pushes for a liberal%2Fprogresive agenda in a way that could resonate with Main St. if it had the support of Democratic Party. He tells the truth with no holds barrrd%2C but also offers policies and programs to provide solutions.%0D%0A |79
86|3|I%27m not a drinker - but I%27d buy WP a beer too - Good message %28nt%29|LoTec||01:44:05|06/16/2002|%3A%29|77
85|1|Bush will return to office unless we GET TOUGH|I_Remember_Hubert||01:17:52|06/16/2002|As depressing as that is to say%2C I really fear it%27s the truth.  His popularity ratings are still high%2C he%27s working this %22war%22 for all its worth%2C and the reality is that the economy hasn%27t really tanked.  I really fear that the voters will return him to office unless we get tough and start screaming at the top of our lungs about the abuses of power that are part and parcel of this administration.  For god%27s sake -- we%27ve nothing to lose at this point.  Go after the sonofabitch%21  Quit the namby pamby crap%2C and learn a little bit from the ruthlessness of the Repulsive Repubs.  At this point%2C I really don%27t care what we have to do -- we MUST get these creeps out of the White House.  I%27m convinced that the future existence of this country and the protection of our civil liberties depends upon it.|0
87|1|How ya%27ll gonna restore DEMOCRACY%3F|Oblomov||01:53:03|06/16/2002|%0D%0AWhat does the Democratic Party propose to do to restore democracy to the United States%3F %0D%0A%0D%0AApart from members of the Congressional Black Caucus%2C Democrats as a whole willingly went along with the US Supreme Court%92s decision to hand the presidency to a man utterly unqualified to hold office.%0D%0A%0D%0AFrom Selection Day 2000 to September 11%2C 2001%2C Democrats%2C as a party%2C seemed perfectly willing to allow multinational corporations assume the role of Big Brother in American life %97 from urinalysis as a prerequisite of employment to the wholesale movement of jobs overseas.%0D%0A%0D%0AAfter September 11%2C Democrats overwhelmingly enabled the Thief Executive to assume non-constitutional powers.  These include limits on the freedoms of speech%2C assembly%2C and privacy%2C as well as from illegal searches and seizures and detainment without charge%3B and permitted the elimination of the cornerstones of our justice system%2C presumption of innocence and a public trial before a jury of one%92s peers%2C as well as the introduction of secret evidence that permits the federal government to define who is an enemy of the state based solely on political beliefs.%0D%0A%0D%0AIn consideration of the forgoing%2C to my first question I%92d add a second query%3A %93Why%3F%94%0D%0A|0
100|2|Upon further review%3A Simplified Qs based on above...|Oblomov||11:52:23|06/16/2002|%0D%0AThree Constitutional points and questions for the DNC%3A%0D%0A%0D%0A1. Bush stole presidential election.  What does DNC plan to do to make 2002 honest%3F%0D%0A%0D%0A2. Bush allowed September 11 to happen%2C either through incompetence or design.    How will DNC work to protect the nation from this madman%27s nefarious plans%3F%0D%0A%0D%0A3. Bush declared martial law%3B and the Congress and courts went along.  How does DNC plan on restoring law and order%3F %0D%0A%0D%0ASorry if this is redundant.  I%27m so mad at what these crooks have done that it makes it difficult to write clearly%2C at times.%0D%0A%0D%0AGood luck on your important mission%2C Eloriel%21  Give %27em the ol%27 what%27s for%21|87
88|1|Get a Mouth and Start Using It%21|amelia||06:01:03|06/16/2002|When are you guys and our so called %22leaders%22 going to get your voice back%3F Have all of you people gone completely into a Bush coma%3F My god%21 It%27s not like you don%27t have anything to work with. There%27s so much stuff about Bush and friends that I can%27t stop my head from spinning with it. For example%3A%0D%0A%0D%0ACheney and Enron%2C bush and Enron%2C Bush and the oil pipeline%2C what Bush knew about 9%2F11%2C energy task force%2C true effects of Global Warming%2C bush history with oil companies and war for profit%2C the 1%2C000%2C000 lies bush has told about everything under the sun etc. etc. etc. %0D%0A%0D%0AGet a spine and start remembering that you are a Democrat. That used to mean that you would take a stand against something that was wrong and fight for what was right%21 All you have to do is take it an issue at a time. Just compress it into sound bites and then repeat it over and over until it sinks in. %0D%0A%0D%0AWhen are you guys going to start being on the news shows 24%2F7 just like the Republicans%3F If nobody sees you%2C then you sure can%27t get your message out%2C now can you%3F Get off your butts and start opening your mouth and forget about kissing bush%27s ass so that you can pretend to be %22bipartisan%22. If you people get any more %22bipartisan%22 we will be living under a Dictatorship%21%0D%0A%0D%0AAmelia Whittington%0D%0ACharleston%2C WV|0
89|1|Stand up for BIll CLinton and his record|sloanmachine||06:50:41|06/16/2002|I%27m convinced that one of our problems is that every time a Dem goes on television%2C he dives under the table as soon as some right-wing twerp snickers at the mention of Clinton%27s name. %0D%0AHe was the best president of my lifetime and we had eight years of peace and prosperity under him. %0D%0ANOw we are spiralling out of control becasue we have a weak%2C incompetent administration%2C staffed with people whose mentality is more akin to organized crime than public service. Thank you.|0
91|2|Democratic Priorities|Q||08:36:02|06/16/2002|%0D%0A%0D%0A1. Do your job and declare war...or insist that Resident Gump pull all troops out of harm%27s way.%0D%0A%0D%0A2. Start over on the %27patriot%27 act. What you have now is a decree for the executive branch to do what it pleases with our beloved Constitution. It shouldn%27t be up to ONE MAN to decide the fate of this country.%0D%0A%0D%0A3. Checks%2C balances and oversight of the executive branch. This is one of your most important DUTIES.%0D%0A%0D%0A4. After you END the war on %28some%29 terrorism...end the war on some drugs. Totalitarianism springs from oppression of freedom.%0D%0A%0D%0A5. It%27s more important than ever that you be a loyal opposition party against those who say we%27re being %27unpatriotic%27 by redressing grievances against our government.%0D%0A%0D%0A6. And finally...true blue Democrats will more likely VOTE for you if they understand that you%27ve done all in your power to make things right.%0D%0A%0D%0A- Many more...but you get the picture. If you don%27t get the picture...your political future and our country is at stake.%0D%0A%0D%0A-%0D%0A%0D%0A%0D%0A%5Bfont color%3D%22%23333333%22 size%3D%221%22 face%3D%22Verdana%22%5DTHEY TRADED OUR FREEDOM %0D%0AFOR SECURITY AND NOW WE %0D%0AHAVE NEITHER - Q%5B%2Ffont%5D|89
93|2|I second that thought %26 more %21|NicRic||08:50:53|06/16/2002|   I think the Dems wimpyness began when they let the republicians constantly bash Clinton and it hasnt stopped since %21 I think its great that this question was asked . It shows what I and alot of my friends that are Dems are feeling . We are sick and tired of the republicians walking all over us . Sometimes you have to get in the gutter to fight with rats. When you see the Democrats holding office %2C tell them that we want them to start speaking up about the stolen election %2Cinvestigate 9%2F11 and enron %21 Now grab your pitch forks %2C and just go for it . Believe me you will be surprised at the support you will recieve %21 |89
92|1|I think this is a winning platform|Squeech||08:41:13|06/16/2002|I know you DNC%27ers think you have to appease corporate America to keep the funds rolling in. %28And I know that part of Al Gore%27s problem was a perceived hypocrisy when he suddenly assumed an anti-corporate populist rhetoric at the Democratic convention%2C which was at odds with his legislative behavior.%29%0D%0A%0D%0ABut it%27s clear that corporate depradations have destroyed your real constituency. You have to raise the issue of corporate accountability or the 50%25-plus of the electorate that don%27t vote will continue to assume they don%27t count-- and you badly need the disenfranchised%2C if you%27re ever gonna win again.%0D%0A%0D%0ASo here%27s how you do it. You announce that%2C contrary to popular %28Republican-manipulated%29 opinion%2C the Democrats are not against corporations. However%2C the Democrats are solidly against crime. And criminal actions by corporate entities will be prosecuted to the full extent of the law-- especially the RICO statutes.%0D%0A%0D%0AIf Enron wants to use strategies like %22Death Star%2C%22 where they create bogus congestion on the grid and then expect to get paid for relieving it%2C that%27s civil fraud on a grand scale%2C as even their lawyers knew. Hold them accountable for it%21%0D%0A%0D%0AIf a corporation like Clear Channel controls 80%25 of the radio in a given city%2C by spreading out ownership through shell companies that claim to compete but obviously don%27t%2C and then gouges advertisers and musicians%2C expose them%21%0D%0A%0D%0AIf companies compete to lower prices by skirting environmental laws%2C this is unfair both to the companies trying to adhere to the law and to the people who have to live with the pollution. There are laws about this. Enforce them%21%0D%0A%0D%0AThe reason we have law is to define the standards of fair play. In their social Darwinist logic%2C corporations always ask for exemptions from some constraint%2C some loophole they can exploit for extra profits. But every such exemption penalizes everybody else who wants to do business according to the rules. It%27s as if one team in a baseball game gets to carry the bat around the bases with them%2C and use it to intimidate infielders to prevent being tagged out. This is how we do business today%2C and it makes us look more like an Indonesian-style kleptocracy than like a Land of Opportunity.%0D%0A%0D%0AThis is all the more urgent now that the stock market is collapsing under the weight of accounting fraud and market manipulation. Increasingly%2C investors don%27t think they can trust the objectivity of a market where the SEC practices %22benign%22 neglect%2C and they%27re bailing out. And here again%2C this penalizes the honest%2C to the benefit of the unprincipled and corrupt. And to take a strong stand on this issue is to defend every working American with a 401k or IRA%2C and there are a lot of us now.%0D%0A%0D%0AAs an aside%2C I think it%27s time to legislate the Fairness Doctrine.|0
95|1|Tell the DNC to Get to Work%21|Tellurian||09:10:37|06/16/2002|%0D%0A%0D%0AMr. McAuliffe%2C we recognize the importance of education and appreciate the valiant efforts of democrats to appropriate public funds to address this need. However%2C it is not%0D%0Aonly citizens requiring the means to educate themselves. The democratic political base structure has fallen far behind the learning curve in having adequate resources to%0D%0Aproperly represent it%27s constituency%2C simply because the following issues have never been addressed%3A %0D%0A%0D%0A%95 A recurrent theme is the media. Fixing the Fairness Doctrine would be a huge step forward. %0D%0A%0D%0A%95 One of the ways the right influences political discourse is through an slew of well-funded think tanks. Those think tanks provide us with a steady diet of %22experts%22 and policy%0D%0Areleases. IMO%2C the left has but a weak counterpart. Also%2C those think tanks allow the right to produce reams of polished legislation overnight. %28This is an area where celebs%0D%0Acould be very useful in the initial stages while later taking a back seat.%29 Even without a restoration of the Fairness Doctrine%2C the news might become more balanced. %28long term%0D%0Abut would yield results rather quickly.%29 %0D%0A%0D%0A%95 A counter weight to the Grover Norquist effect would be very nice. The left has many groups%2C but do those groups communicate%3F We need to be able to deliver...overnight%2C%0D%0Amillions of letters whenever we need to shout. %28internet...phone trees...cells within various organizations.%29 Given the right leader%2C this could happen rather quickly. %0D%0A%0D%0A%95 We need to build the base and provide a weaving of the concerns of the different factions inherent in any large organization. IMO%2C the DNC could help with this and are%0D%0Amoving in this direction. They need to pushed out of their old dreams of unity and into the real world of who we are what we want. %0D%0A%0D%0A%95 The tech industry would seem to be at odds with the center of power of the rightwing%2C the fossil fuel%2C let%27s just pollute the whole damn planet boys. Promises need to be%0D%0Amade%2C not to sell our souls but to buy our children%27s futures. %0D%0A%0D%0ASo what does all this cost%3F Yes%2C a few well connected progressives will be needed to get the inititives moving. But much of what can be done is a matter of planning%2C some%0D%0Along term%2C and some short term. A core group that evaluates that evaluates the effort and remains fluid to needed changes. %0D%0A|0
96|1|I would like to say a word about UNIONS.|revcarol||10:42:17|06/16/2002|When John Assbarn de-whatevered three unions in the Justice Department on the grounds that this might interfere with their %22patriotism%2C%22 WHERE WERE YOU%3F%3FYOU LET HIM GET AWAY WITH IMPUGNING THE PATRIOTISM OF THOUSANDS OF LOYAL AMERICANS%21%21%0D%0A%0D%0AWhen Bush took the first steps to privatize air controllers%2C WHERE WERE YOU%3F%0D%0A%0D%0ANow that everyone is going gung ho to move every department known to man into Bush%27s Homeland %22Security%22 department%2C who is looking out for the WORKERS%3F%0D%0A%0D%0AThis will play big with new citizens%2C as they are usually in the lowest paid jobs and are usually working under their talents and capacity because of prejudice.%0D%0A%0D%0AYou must point out the OBVIOUS%3A repugs are the party of BIG BUSINESS and Democrats are the party of the people%2C everyone else%2C including the workers%21%21 You should be able to make BIG inroads into the SMALL BUSINESS owners. THEIR interests are not being addressed by the administration.There is no reason the Chamber of Commerce should represent BIG BUSINESS over smaller business and then be 100%25 for the republicans. Their interests are our interests. |0
98|2|Excellent post on several levels|salin||11:27:46|06/16/2002|Hit the Union angle - the republicans have been vicious.  Replay the rhetoric just before the vote to %27federalize%27 airport security.  Remind yourself that this was done due not only to the problems shown in 911%3B but then quick review post 911 demonstrated the faulty%2Fshoddy work of some of the private security companies %28Argenbright%2C wasn%27t it%3F%29.  News cast after news cast interviewed rightwing law makers going on record saying the BAD thing about this is that it would be Union workers who would get these jobs.  Get that%3F  Union workers were considered - based on only on the fact of Union membership - to be a WORSE situation %28by implication - threat%3F%29 to the US than continuing using low paid%2C unskilled and clearly untrained workers through some corrupt%2Fincompetent private firms.  Pair that with the examples given above by Rev Carol.  The GOP is NOT about working people.  The GOP has contempt for working people who are in Unions.  Why%3F Simply put because their constituency %28the one%27s they pander to legislatively%29 don%27t make as much money off of labor when they use Union employees%2C thus in nearly every example possible the GOP talks down and tries to disempower Unions and union workers%2C even in government positions.%0D%0A%0D%0AThe small business angle.  A comparison of where business tax breaks go and how they help large corporations compared to small businesses would be a very good strategy.  What happens is that the larger companies disproportionately reap benefits - and they are even better assisted to be %27more competitive%27.  Agriculture aid is a very good example of this.  When this happens the field is not more competitive%2C indeed the largest companies get more and more business costs subsidized - that can cover fixed costs - and free more money for those businesses to undercut %28and run out%29 competitors.  Go to nearly any downtown or nearly any shopping mall.  Count the number of locally owned small businesses.  Compare this to twenty years ago.  The policies of this administration work to accelerate this process.  Take up this call - would the small businessman prefer to be employed by large companies%3F  Where do the small businesspeople think folks like themselves go when they are run out of business due to unfair competitive processes subsidized by their own tax dollars%3F%0D%0A%0D%0A%5Bfont color%3D%22%23333333%22 size%3D%221%22 face%3D%22Verdana%22%5D%22We expect there to be transparency. People who have something to hide make us nervous....%22 GWB in Alaska - discussing Iraq.%0D%0A%5B%2Ffont%5D|96
97|1|My Note to the DNC|Spangle||11:06:51|06/16/2002|There are three issues I would like to bring to your attention.  Internet orginzation%2C Democrat leaders standing up for democratic values%2C and local DEC DINO%27s. %0D%0A%0D%0ARepublicans are eons ahead of us on internet orginzation.  Only someone who was an internet junkie during the Clinton adminstration can understand exactly what they did and how effective it was.  When I bring up internet activism with our state leadership%2C and different county leaderships.. I%27m told that such %22activism%22 is BS.  Since it does%27t lead to activism that they can see localy.  And example that was given to me was when Gore%27s team turned over names of people who had signed up on the internet to help localy.  It seems that a majority of what they were given were BS names. %0D%0A%0D%0AWhat the leadership failed to understand%2C that was part of the %22power of internet activism.%22  Not all who signed up%2C did so without first being told of the idea.%0D%0A%0D%0AThe most dismissed areas of the internet%2C is exactly the areas that need the most attention.  That is %22BBS%22%2C or %22The boards.%22 Where communication and debate takes place.  Information on politics shows up on a wide range of topics.. not just on political ones.  IT was excellently used to %22control%22 the informational process.  It is in such places that %22non-intrested%22 persons end up gathering political information.  And end up being intrested%2C going one side or the other.  Based upon what information gathered in such %22debates.%22%0D%0A%0D%0AIt is in such areas that a person can gain a much broader knowledge of what the %22general%22 population is thinking about any subject.  Much better the polls.  Because it explains the %22how and why%22 people think the way they do.  ANd not just in one area of the country%2C but in different areas of the country.  Included would be such topics as WHY people are leaving the Democratic party.%0D%0A%0D%0AIn order to truely understand internet political activism.. Your going to get no where disscussing such things in meetings today%2C unless you bring in NEW people who have %22been there.%22  %0D%0A%0D%0AOne thing I have learned from talking to peole from across the country is.. they are very unhappy sending Democrats to DC who do not stand up for Democrats.  And I%27m not talking about on radical issues.  But on issues that should be %22no brainers.%22 THis is keeping alot of democats from the voting booths on election day.  As more and more people are going to have to personaly deal with the Patriotism act.. they are going to feel less %22forgiving%22 of our leadership if they fail to also stand up.  Eactlly WHERE is our leadership leading us%3F%0D%0A%0D%0AAlso%2C I%27ve been running into Democrats who have failed to be able to become involved in the Democrat groups localy.  Some groups which should be strong%2C are held back by DINO%27s.  This has been a KNOWN problem.. But as of yet%2C I don%27t see any plan to deal with this.  Local democrats can NOT join together.. because they can%27t get approval for the use of the Democrat name.  Because such approval must go past the %22problem%22.. before it goes to a higher leadship.   And you can bet your last dollar%2C that it will NOT go anywhere.%0D%0A%0D%0ADemocrats are %22commen%22 people.  Not all of us are trained in business.  Better and detailed training MUST be provided.  Not %22vage%22 ideas and possiblitys.  Training and the training manuals are a JOKE.  Spend some time and effort on this issue%21  Expecting %22leadership%22 to handle  this problem.. is ignoring what some places must deal with. Not everything should be left to %22ground up%22.. some things must be %22Top to bottem%22.  Some of your local activist are very short on the %24%24%24 but full of time and heart.  Stop making it a rich mans game%2C cause we can%27t afford to loose such willing poeple.  I rather have 1%2C000 poor people helping me%2C then 5 rich guys.  The difference%2C one only gives money and demands things their way.  The other is 1%2C000 helpful hands and mouths willing to get the word out and get stuff done.  It DOES make a difference.  Exspecaily in areas where you can%27t even find %22rich guys.%22%0D%0A%0D%0AThe world has changed and so has politics.  New ways have come forth in the battle%2C that wasn%27t there before.  The internet is one of the new ways.  To contact possible activist and to inform the public when the media will not.  More and more people are finding out that they CAN get involved.  Such people are needed on the local level as well.  When they get there%2C there needs to be some plan in place that will enable them to be active%2C without pushing them away. The only persons able to deal with this is the DNC.  And if the DNC doesn%27t tackle this bull by the horns.. no one else will.  Those people will eventualy head towards an orginization that will put their energys to work.%0D%0A%0D%0AOh%2C and it%27s time to get realistic.  We are in an age were quick phrases are the day.  Republicans have made excellent work out of putting their information in cute %22sound bites%22 that are easy to remember. Repeated in articles%2C media and politicians.  This alone helps make the %22talking points%22 rememberable. And seem factual%2C even if it isn%27t.  Democrats are using long speaches%2C different phrases%2C etc.. to tell their story.  The public isn%27t intrested in long explanations.  That is why VRC has been able to %27catch%22 and be remembered by so many people.%0D%0A%0D%0A%5Bfont color%3D%22%23333333%22 size%3D%221%22 face%3D%22Verdana%22%5D%0D%0A%5B%2Ffont%5D|0
99|2|The DNC needs a schooling mechanism to get all Dem Leaders and wannabees into the |opihimoimoi||11:50:27|06/16/2002|Strong and Wise Leadership 101 Program. After 4 years of 2 week sessions and graduating from the program%2C our Dems Party will catch up to the Pubs. The longer we hold off%2C the more the Pubs will laugh.%0D%0A%0D%0A%5Bfont color%3D%22%23333333%22 size%3D%221%22 face%3D%22Verdana%22%5DPeace on the Grassy Knoll%0D%0A%0D%0AAmerica%2C Land of Sheep%2C where to %0D%0AFool is to Rule. Helllooooo%3F%3F%3F%5B%2Ffont%5D|97
101|1|Get off your butts and start representing we%2C the people.|L4d||11:54:32|06/16/2002|WE are the majority who didn%27t vote for Bush.%0D%0A%0D%0AWE are the majority who care about the environment.%0D%0A%0D%0AWE are the majority who don%27t think that there can be acceptable levels of arsenic in our drinking water.%0D%0A%0D%0AWE are the majority who want to keep abortion legal.%0D%0A%0D%0AWE are the majority who are concerned about access to health care in this country.%0D%0A%0D%0AIf you don%27t get off your asses and stand up to this fascist regime%2C you just might as well start sending your begathon letters to prisons or get ready for some huge increases in postal costs to Canada%2C New Zealand%2C Australia and France%2C et al.%2C the places we will go because this regime will have insured that any and all dissenters are either in jail or in exile.%0D%0A%0D%0AI for one am already making a contingency plan to leave%2C just in case.  THAT%27S how concerned I am about the direction this country is heading.|0
102|1|Donkey kick to the front page.|revcarol||13:21:00|06/16/2002|We always say the leaders don%27t listen. Here%27s our chance%21%21|0
103|1|Damaged care|kcr||13:42:47|06/16/2002|revcarol asked someone to link this here%3A%0D%0A%0D%0Ahttp%3A%2F%2Fwww.democraticunderground.com%2Fcgi-bin%2Fduforum%2Fduboard.cgi%3Faz%3Dshow_thread%26om%3D28024%26forum%3DDCForumID35%0D%0A%0D%0A%5Bfont color%3D%22%23333333%22 size%3D%221%22 face%3D%22Verdana%22%5D---------------------------------------%0D%0A---------------------------------------%0D%0Ahttp%3A%2F%2Fwww.leanleft.com%0D%0APrinciple without power is political masturbation.%0D%0APower without principle is political prostitution%5B%2Ffont%5D|0
105|1|Read and Participate on the DU%21%21%21%21%21 - EOM|bpilgrim||13:54:14|06/16/2002|%5Bfont color%3D%22%23333333%22 size%3D%221%22 face%3D%22Verdana%22%5D--%0D%0Ahttp%3A%2F%2Fglobalfreepress.org%2Fimages%2FDr.Stranglove--8.jpg%0D%0A%22The only true wisdom consists in knowing that you know nothing%22 Socrates%0D%0A%0D%0ASend an email blast to the media today%21%0D%0Ahttp%3A%2F%2Fglobalfreepress.com%2Fmedia_blast.pl%0D%0A%0D%0Aalso check out the Grassy Knoll Society BookMarks%0D%0Ahttp%3A%2F%2Fglobalfreepress.com%2Fbookmarks%5B%2Ffont%5D|0
106|1|Bump for|Tigerlily||15:47:31|06/16/2002|Eloriel.|0
107|1|come clean |Sophia4Truth||15:49:24|06/16/2002|tell the TRUTH%2C and quit jacking the public around.%0D%0A%0D%0A%5Bfont color%3D%22%23333333%22 size%3D%221%22 face%3D%22Verdana%22%5D%22If this were a dictatorship%2C it%27d be a heck of a lot easier%2C just so long as I%27m the dictator.%22 George W. Bush%0D%0A%0D%0A%5B%2Ffont%5D|0
108|1|Excellent suggestions on this thread|IndianaGreen||16:01:10|06/16/2002|I wish to add two others%3A%0D%0A%0D%0A1. Since American law is still based on inequality%2C the DNC should endorse enacting the original Equal Rights Amendment%2C introduced in Congress in 1923%2C written by Alice Paul%3A %0D%0A%0D%0A%95 Men and women shall have equal rights throughout the United States and every place subject to its jurisdiction. %0D%0A%0D%0A%95 Congress shall have power to enforce this article by appropriate legislation. %0D%0A%0D%0A2. Pull out of the fraudulent Presidential Debates Commission and let the League of Women Voters organize the Presidential debates%2C as they did before the party hacks in both major parties decided to give the public a pasteurized and homogenized swill that they called %22debates.%22%0D%0A%0D%0A|0
118|2|More on debates|Lydia Leftcoast||04:18:30|06/17/2002|I heard former German chancellor Helmuth Schmidt speak during the 1988 elections here %28and wished that we had someone of that quality running for president--but I digress%29.%0D%0A%0D%0AAnyway%2C Schmidt%27s suggestion was to scrap the current debate formats and hold a series of totally unscripted town meetings with various constituencies%3A students%2C the elderly%2C union workers%2C small business owners%2C farmers%2C members of the finance industry%2C you name it. Let the public see how the candidates handled tough questions%2C perhaps heckling. After seeing enough of these debates%2C we%27d have a pretty good idea of the substance %28or lack thereof%29 of each candidate.%0D%0A%0D%0A%0D%0A%5Bfont color%3D%22%23333333%22 size%3D%221%22 face%3D%22Verdana%22%5D%22Be ye therefore wise as serpents and %0D%0Aharmless as doves.%22--- Matthew 10%3A16%0D%0A%0D%0AThe Biblical tax plan%3A %22For unto %0D%0Awhomsoever much is given%2C of him shall %0D%0Abe much required%22 ---Luke 12%3A48%5B%2Ffont%5D|108
110|1|Furthermore|Tippthis||16:25:19|06/16/2002|We are tired of being patronized by entrenched local party hacks.  Get some real leaders here to talk to us and help us out.  The people working on your local efforts are often entrenched lazy ass fools.|0
111|1|Since the other thread has gotten lost%3A|patdem||16:29:28|06/16/2002|and a %3Akick%3A to boot%0D%0A%0D%0A%0D%0A1. Get a spokesperson with a singular voice who is partisanly political and is not running for office to fearlessly speak out about the Democratic issues with PASSION%21 But James Carville is old hat.%0D%0A2. State that anyone who uses terrorism to effect a change in government is a terrorist%2C including any person currently in government.%0D%0A3. Show how the republicans have reigned over recessions and the democrats are the true fiscal conservatives. http%3A%2F%2Fwww.fcdp.org%2Frecession.html%0D%0A%0D%0AAnother conservative site that admits the above%2C but tries to put a spin on the facts%3A http%3A%2F%2Fwww.saljournal.com%2Fstories%2F110900%2Fmon_ap_mirror.html%0D%0A%3Csnip%3E%0D%0ASharp%2C economically induced market declines occurred during the past 40 years in 1970%2C 1974%2C 1981%2C 1987 and 1990. And make of it what you will%2C all occurred with a Republican in the White House. %0D%0ASounds significant%3F Before reaching conclusions%2C however%2C S%26P%27s editors add that each time%2C stocks fully recovered with a Republican still in charge. And%2C while recessions occurred three times during Republican administrations%2C three occurred under the Democrats.%0D%0A%3Csnip%3E%0D%0A4. Buy media time if we have to%85.GET IN THE FACE OF THE AMERICAN PEOPLE.%0D%0A5. Explain to the country that Bill Clinton%2C although he performed a wonderful job FOR THE AMERICAN PEOPLE%2C is no longer president%2C and that blaming him for everything from the price of tea in china to acid rain will not fix ANYTHING in or for this country. We must look ahead into the future and work on solutions FOR THE AMERICAN PEOPLE.%0D%0A6. We have a gazillion talking points%2C but until we have a spokesperson who can put them all together in a coherent policy we are DOOMED%21%0D%0A7. The economy%3B the environment%3B money in politics%3B willing to spill blood for oil%2C but not willing to lower the caf%E9 standards%3B health care%85%85..ad naseatum.%0D%0A%0D%0A%0D%0A%0D%0A%0D%0A%0D%0A%0D%0A|0
112|1|Repeal the bankruptcy act NOW%21%21|revcarol||16:38:28|06/16/2002|You are much too beholden to banks%2C credit card companies. This act is a disaster for the little guy%2Fgal and families.The most common reason for bankruptcy is HIGH MEDICAL EXPENSE OR CATASTROPHIC ILLNESS.Even if you have insurance%2C paying a deductible of %24500-%241000 plus 10%25 of the balance is enough to bankrupt a family%21%21%0D%0A%0D%0AAccept NO MORE CONTRIBUTIONS from these companies.The repug call for personal responsibility is A PERVERSION of the term. We are FOR the WELFARE OF FAMILIES.|0
113|1|Just be an opposition party...|freetempe||17:04:51|06/16/2002|thats all I ask. Instead of caving in on everything the GOP wants TAKE A DAMN STAND. Quit worrying about the polls. Start acting like the party of the common man. Don%27t fall into that %22class-warfare%22 crap. There is a class war going on%2C there always has been%2C there always will be. So fight for the people you are supposed to fight for.%0D%0A%0D%0A-Increase minimum wage%0D%0A-Single-payer health care system%0D%0A-Save Social Security%0D%0A-Stop tax cuts for the rich %28Dems can crush the GOP on this%2C why won%27t they do it%3F%21%21%3F%21%3F%21%3F%21%29%0D%0A-Rally against the special interests%0D%0A-Champion environmental issues%0D%0A-Get away from loser issues %28like guns%29%0D%0A-Stop the GOP from taking our rights. We need to become the party of FREEDOM%21%21%21 We need to become the party that DEFENDS THE CONSTITUTION%21%21%21 %0D%0A%0D%0AJust grow a damn spine and FIGHT. Don%27t feature that weasel theif fraud Bush in your damn campaign ads either. That infuriates me. It makes we want to go %28gulp%29 green.%0D%0A%0D%0AIn short%2C just be an OPPOSITION party.%0D%0A|0
114|1|tell them to get some spine|radfringe||17:11:05|06/16/2002|they are confusing Bush%27s high numbers with support for Bush vesus support for war on terrorism%0D%0A%0D%0ASpeaking out is NOT unpatriotic%2C repression of speech through intimidation is Unpatrotic%0D%0A%0D%0AIn Europe Bush said he welcomed protests%2C it shows that democracy is working - so why aren%27t we allowed to protest or otherwise dissent%0D%0A%0D%0AAsk them if they remember democracy%3F  Then ask them if they care.%0D%0A%0D%0AThe country is ripe for a leader%2C and support for Bush is by default because many people feel he%27s all we got...  Democratic Party need to start standing up%2C speaking out and leading and the hell with the Shrublicans%0D%0A%0D%0AInvestigate ENRON%2C Investigate Haliburton%2C Investigate 9%2F11 and investigate white house connections to all of this and more...  We are being lead by moron and our country is crying out for a leader..%0D%0A%0D%0A%5Bfont color%3D%22%23333333%22 size%3D%221%22 face%3D%22Verdana%22%5D%5Bfont color%3D%22%23333333%22 size%3D%221%22 face%3D%22Verdana%22%5D http%3A%2F%2Fradicalfringe.freeservers.com%2Fimages%2Fgks.gif  Proud Member of the Grassy Knoll Society - Lehman%2C PA Chapter %3Atinfoilhat%3A http%3A%2F%2Fradicalfringe.freeservers.com%2Fimages%2Fbushknew.gif%0D%0A%5Bfont color%3Dblue%5D%5Bb%5DThe Radical Fringe%3A http%3A%2F%2Fradicalfringe.freeservers.com%2F%0D%0ABlue Stone Studio http%3A%2F%2Fbluestonestudio.freeservers.com%2F%5B%2Ffont%5D%5B%2Fb%5D %5B%2Ffont%5D|0
115|1|Remember soundbites|Lindsey||20:28:14|06/16/2002|As has been discussed on this site%2C a lot of Americans need to hear what%27s going on in soundbites. Remember Ma and Pa sixpack%3F%0D%0AIf people knew what was really going on%2C I know they%27d be outraged. We need to have a gigantic grass roots blitz focusing on the seats we can take in Nov. so we can take back congress%21 If we do that%2C all of the scandals can be uncovered such as Enron%2C the pipeline in Afghanistan%2C why 9%2F11 happened%2C the stolen election%2C on and on and on. %0D%0A |0
116|1|The country is ripe for a leader |Eloriel||23:30:43|06/16/2002|Well said%2C among many wonderful points from all the other posters. Here%27s my bump for tonight.%0D%0A%0D%0AThe country would have united behind Humpty Dumpty after 9-11%2C and Bush is NO leader but he gets the job by default. %0D%0A%0D%0APoint out%3A%0D%0A%0D%0A%2A all his lies -- ALL of them%0D%0A%0D%0A%2A all his broken promises -- ALL of them%2C such as an Education bill he%27s taking credit for but not bothering to fund%21 If you want to hand him more opportunities for such clever trickes%2C be sure to let him get away with it now.%0D%0A%0D%0A%2A all his bullying tactics %28not inviting people like Jeffords and McKinney to things directly affecting their constituencies%2C among many other things%29%0D%0A%0D%0A%2A secrecy in government -- dangerous in a democracy%0D%0A%0D%0A%2A ALL OUR CORE ISSUES%21%21%21%21 Appeal to your base%21%21 I feel so damned frustrated%2C betrayed and forgotten by my own party that some days I can%27t see straight and other days I just feel heartbroken and orphaned. As others have said%3A grow a spine%2C BE an %22opposition party%2C%22 etc.%2C etc. You can%27t imagine how we yearn for YOUR leadership and %22me too-ism%22 don%27t cut it. %0D%0A%0D%0A%2A Add the Gore votes and the Nader votes together and take a look at what you%27ve got. Because if youre looking at anything else you%27re the ones with Fuzzy Math. YES many Nader voters were %22first%22 or even %22only%22 timers. But that can change. This country is NOT rightwing -- the right is just the noisier%2C meaner%2C more cynical%2C dirtier politicos who happen to be in control of the media. I dare you%3A take a look at the sum of the center-left votes and THINK ABOUT THE POSSIBILITIES. %0D%0A%0D%0A%2A Have more faith in Americans. We CAN understand and believe the truth -- but we have to be given a chance to hear it first. Most Americans simply can%27t inuit it. Get out there and tell the truth. Be true to yourselves first and foremost%2C then be true to our core values%2C and be true to America. I see so few of our elected officials in COngress and the Senate actually doing what%27s right for the country. So few. STATESMEN %28and women%29%2C that%27s what we need%2C and they are in very short supply. Principled action. Vision. Integrity. -- All of that starts with being true to yourself. I%27m convinced Gore would have won in a landslide instead of a runoff had he not been over-managed to such an extent he wasn%27t being himself or true to himself. That%27s why his concession speech was so invigorating. It was statesmanlie. It was the real Al Gore.  %0D%0A%0D%0A%2A Bush has handed you so many issues that he could%27ve been impeached 12 times over by now%2C and at each turn you capitulate%21%21 Cower%21%21 Crawl away%21%21 Here%27s something I%27d like to share with you that another DUer posted from Harry Belafonte%3A  %0D%0A%0D%0A%5Bb%5DDo not submit. It is extremely critical that repression be met head on and that it be resisted with every fiber in our being. There is absolutely no compromise that can be made with it. As a matter of fact%2C comprimise is what oppression feeds on. Without compromise it would be defeated.%22 %0D%0A%0D%0ARepression is a Reality -- starting with the Stolen Election%2C and continuing through the passage of the PATRIOT Act nobody bothered to read. Go read it%21 Then repeal it%21 Curb Ahscroft%27s anti-American repressions. Don%27t just sit there%2C DO SOMETHING%21%0D%0A%0D%0APlease.%0D%0A%0D%0AEloriel%0D%0A%0D%0A%5Bfont color%3D%22%23333333%22 size%3D%221%22 face%3D%22Verdana%22%5DPower concedes nothing without a demand. It never had and never will. -- Frederick Douglas%5B%2Ffont%5D|0
117|1|Link DU%2C democrats.com ...|cosmicdot||23:57:20|06/16/2002|and%2C others to the DNC website%3B get a cable network%3B walk and talk like a Democrat%3B run progressively ... be a volunteer for the New Frontier ... the %22opposition%22 think they buried it back in the 60s%2C but%2C I think that torch can be retrieved ... and%2C let%27s get this country moving again ... into the 21st century.%0D%0A%0D%0Aoh%2C and%2C give the graduates of the Class of 2011 a reason to say%3A thank you for keeping the promise alive.%0D%0A%0D%0AHave green%2C socially responsible portfolios.%0D%0A%0D%0APromote and work for democracy in corporate america and the workplace.%0D%0A%0D%0ABeing on Medicare ... where%27s my help with prescriptions%2Fmedications ... still paying full fair here%3B and%2C need help. Medicare is my only health insurance%3B and%2C the number of doctors accepting Medicare is declining.%0D%0A%0D%0AThere%27s a lot to say to them.|0
121|2|Reduce Stress|cosmicdot||11:24:57|06/17/2002|Something many people may not consider as an %22issue%22 - stress - we need to find ways to reduce stress. %22I have an idea%22 on how stress can be reduced in our lives and in society project. Stress has its many costs%3A angst%3B road rage%3B crime%3B high medical costs%3B %2Cetc. It%27s something that everyone can relate to.%0D%0A%0D%0AMore control over corporations. Raise fines on violations of OSHA%2C EEO%2C etc. Regulation to have reported violations which are settled out of court to avoid federal knowledge. Develop a scorecard which will affect government contracts%3B warnings for loss of incorporation up to actual loss of incorporation. Management acting as agents in committing crimes should not be protected from prosecution. Make corporations accountable. What exactly is the fine for violating one%27s civil rights%3F%0D%0A%0D%0AFocus on athletes%2C who endorse corporations%27 products%2C for money%2C their support against corps. which abuse people and environment.%0D%0A%0D%0ASet the FDA%27s recommended daily vitamin requirements at higher standards%2C which%2C hopefully%2C will make the McDonalds of the world offer healthier food.%0D%0A%0D%0AWe need to find ways to build trust. With trust%2C we build community%3B and%2C with community we can achieve great things.%0D%0A%0D%0ARepetitive Stress is disabiling our workforce. Re-instate President Clinton%27s regulations.%0D%0A%0D%0APrivacy. Privacy. Privacy.%0D%0ANo one should have the ability to call anyone%27s number%3B and%2C that caller%27s number cannot be either identified or blocked. Medical records%3A health insurance should be independent of employers records. Who decided to change it anyway%3F%0D%0A%0D%0AA real living wage.%0D%0A%0D%0AUniversal health coverage should be a human right.%0D%0A%0D%0A%0D%0A|117
122|3|Learn all about the infrastructure ...|cosmicdot||11:45:49|06/17/2002|1%29 involved in processing victimless crimes%3A the costs%2C the clogged dockets%2C the overpopulated prisons ... support measures which will focus on %27real%27 crime and reduce costs to taxpayers.%0D%0A%0D%0A2%29 which corporations develop to exert %27control%27 over employees ... many hae highly sophisticated networks which are used to control employees and knowledge about them%2C i.e. when I was trying to get on short-term disability%3B I called the Patients%27 Advocate line to get some doctors%27 names. Patient Advocate was located in one state%2C and the moment I called in%2C the Disability Administrator located in another state%27s computer told her I was %22in the system%22 and she began communicating with the Patient Advocate administrator %22in real time%22 while I was on the phone.  Most big corporations make employees to enter their pin to get into the various network arms%3A to access their IRA%2FSavings Acct%3B to talk to someone about medical reimbursements%2C etc.  They tape record the conversations. If an employee is %22flagged%22%2C whenever they enter any network system%2C they are flagged throughout all of them as a monitoring spy system. I%27ve been there%2C and its a frightening experience.%0D%0A%0D%0AWhat kind of society have we become to treat fellow citizens the way corporations are allowed to treat their employees%3F%0D%0A%0D%0AThe Equal Employment Opportunity Commission needs a process improvement exercise%3B and%2C an oversight group to analyze how it conducts business.  Federal employees have specific%2C detailed procedures for the processing of EEO complaints%2C but there are none for other citizens working for non-government employers ... why%3F%0D%0A%0D%0AI always thought that Medicare was there for everyone. I didn%27t know that that is only true if a doctor opts into the program. That was an eye-opener. Glad I learned about it at age 49 and not 65.|121
119|1|Intestinal Fortitude%21 Details...|alphafemale||05:04:42|06/17/2002|Don%27t allow Junior to dictate details of his %22This Is the War that Never Ends%22%0D%0ASTOP the erosion of civil righs.%0D%0ASpeak out against the above%21  Make these issues public%21%0D%0A%0D%0ABOLDLY proclaim that while RePugs wave the vapid platitude of %22Family Values%22 %0D%0ADEMOCRATS - %22Value EVERY Family%22%0D%0A%0D%0ABOLDY Take BACK the moral high ground on CHOICE.%0D%0ASimply Put - Donating blood saves lives too. Yet%2C no one%27s forced to do so. The very idea of even the very minimal incovenience of coerced blood donations would send a shudder through our society.  The very concept is horrifying.%0D%0ABut are woman merely uteruses surrounded by something %22almost%22 worthy of being considered human%3F %0D%0A%0D%0ADEMAND election reform%21%0D%0A%0D%0AThat%27s just a beginning....%0D%0A%0D%0A%0D%0A%5Bfont color%3D%22%23333333%22 size%3D%221%22 face%3D%22Verdana%22%5DPerfection%2C of a kind%2C was what he was after%2C%0D%0AAnd the poetry he invented was easy to understand%2C%0D%0AHe knew human folly like the back of his hand%2C%0D%0AAnd he was greatly interested in armies and fleets%3B%0D%0AWhen he laughed%2C respectable senators burst with laughter%2C%0D%0AAnd when he cried the little children died in the streets.%0D%0A%22Epitaph on a Tyrant%22 W.H. Auden%5B%2Ffont%5D|0
120|1|Suggest that the Democratic Party take a position|DemBones DemBones||11:00:24|06/17/2002|advocating labeling%2C regulating%2C and%2C ideally%2C  phasing in a ban on GMO%27s in our food supply.  I added to my post on this controversy today and it occurred to me that this could be a good issue for Democrats.  %0D%0A%0D%0AThe general public doesn%27t know what%27s been done to their food and how the GMO%27s are spreading in nature.  I think they will be frightened and angry when they are properly informed.  Kucinich has already introduced legislation for labeling of GM foods %28I think Boxer is the Senate sponsor%29 so we have a foot in the door.   Among the scare stories that have been floated are some about terrorists contaminating our food supply but in fact it already is contaminated.  Maybe they are safe but what a huge experiment this is.  People could%2C I think%2C become very angry if they realized they were being used as guinea pigs while Europeans were able to just say no to GMO%27s. %0D%0A%0D%0AI know you%27re already informed about this%2C Eloriel%2C but I can send you some URL%27s if you need them.   It%27s super that you%27re going to this conference%2C hope it will be a great learning experience for you.    %0D%0A%0D%0A%5Bfont color%3D%22%23333333%22 size%3D%221%22 face%3D%22Verdana%22%5DDB  DB%0D%0A%0D%0ACharter Member%2C %0D%0AGRASSY KNOLL SOCIETY%0D%0A%0D%0A%22Where there%27s smoke%2C there%27s fire -- %0D%0Aor someone with a smoke machine.%22 %0D%0AWho%27s operating the smoke %0D%0Amachine%3F Who needs a smoke %0D%0Ascreen%3F Cui bono%3F%5B%2Ffont%5D|0
123|1|This needs to be kicked up a notch|patdem||15:04:56|06/17/2002|%3Akick%3A|0
124|2|up another notch|cosmicdot||16:08:24|06/17/2002|http%3A%2F%2Fwww.democraticunderground.com%2Fduforum%2FImages%2Fdonkey.gif%0D%0A%0D%0Ahttp%3A%2F%2Fwww.democraticunderground.com%2Fduforum%2FImages%2Fdonkey.gif|123
125|1|Quit fiddling while Rome burns|obeah||17:41:09|06/17/2002|There are 40 million or so Americans without health care%2C and the most that the Democratic leaderships can rouse itself to fight for is a prescription drug benefit in Medicare%3F%0D%0A%0D%0AQuit focusing on staying one micrometer ahead of the Republican Party%2C and instead articulate a progressive vision for our nation.  What kind of world do you want to be living in 50 years from now%3F  What kind of world do you want to leave to your children and grandchildren%3F  Now is the time to get to work building that world.  Incremental change is fine%2C as long as it%27s in the service of a larger goal.  Tiny incremental changes cannot%2C themselves%2C be the goal.%0D%0A%0D%0AFinally%3A we are facing a severe democracy shortage in this country.  Fight for clean%2C publicly-funded elections.  Fight for suffrage for every citizen over 18.  Fight for instant runoff voting so that people are free to vote their consciences.  Fight to turn the Presidential debates back over to the League of Women Voters.  Fight for media reform so that the public can get the information they need in order to be citizens of a democracy.  Most of all%2C fight for issues that actually make people want to vote.%0D%0A%0D%0A%5Bfont color%3D%22%23333333%22 size%3D%221%22 face%3D%22Verdana%22%5DProud Member of the Grassy Knoll Society%5B%2Ffont%5D|0
126|1|Will be kicked with every new good|patdem||18:39:44|06/17/2002|suggestion%0D%0A%0D%0A%3Akick%3A|0
127|1|bump|Tigerlily||07:15:53|06/18/2002|%5B%5D|0
128|1|If our leaders in the Party don%27t start fighting back...|myvotedontcountyet||08:04:00|06/18/2002|%28and get a backbone%29 we will find others who will. There will come a day of reckoning for quisling %22democrat%22 politicians who hold their own interests over the interests of the Party and the nation. Especially the nine who voted for the repeal of the inheritance tax. We will remember.|0
130|1|Another bump for eloriel|Tigerlily||15:28:27|06/18/2002|%5B%5D|0