"What is a Compassionate Conservative?"

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romantico (152 posts) Jul-30-01, 08:59 PM (ET) "What is a Compassionate Conservative?" Can anyone tell me how I would explain exactly what a compassionate conservative is to someone who does not know? For me personally, the two words are like amonia & Bleach. Water & Oil. The two should not even be mentioned n the same breath. But, perhaps I am being to harsh. If anyone can offer a simple definition, I would appreciate it.   Alert Edit | Reply | Top

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Subject     Author     Message Date     ID    Compassionate Conservatism Gore1FL Jul-30-01 1    Damn. 5thGenDemocrat 07/30/2001 2        Well proud patriot 07/30/2001 4  Can't help you. dusty64 Jul-30-01 3    How about just a regular moron? Kool Kitty 07/30/2001 8  an birdman Jul-30-01 5    since oxymoron newyawker99 07/30/2001 6  actually enki23 Jul-30-01 7  In one word jmm Jul-30-01 9  A Compassionate Conservative is retyred Jul-30-01 10  A compassionate conservative mvd Jul-30-01 11  What is a Compassionate Conservative? scramjet Jul-30-01 12  The real answer, of course, orangepeel68 Jul-30-01 13    Interesting site ThJ 07/30/2001 16    Olasky Hamlette 07/30/2001 18        There was a good article on Olasky Lexingtonian 07/31/2001 29  They don't even buy it Musashi Jul-30-01 14    Arthur Schlessinger's opinion Lexingtonian 07/31/2001 30  First, we must understand what conservatism is. ThJ Jul-30-01 15    there it is in a nutshell... EFF BrandyWine 07/31/2001 40  Wells without water Ohgosh Jul-30-01 17  Compassionate Conservative: bvar22 Jul-30-01 19  It could also be Gore1FL Jul-30-01 20  I've got it enki23 Jul-31-01 21  I love words. KMAbush Jul-31-01 22    Now this is a truism.... Lonnie S 08/01/2001 45  The "Clampetts". Jethro,Granny,EllyMay,Jeb :-) New England Jul-31-01 23  It would compare with... Piperay Jul-31-01 24  Its just like an intelligent conservative. neuvocat Jul-31-01 25  Compassionate conservatism ukcritic Jul-31-01 26  I actually had a long conversation with someone who believed that lie tom_paine Jul-31-01 27  I'm sorry guys... EOTE Jul-31-01 28    a compassionate conservative... Guinastasia 07/31/2001 31    all of the above caab 07/31/2001 32  I think the real issue.... Cappurr Jul-31-01 33    The Real Reason ThJ 07/31/2001 37    exactly right... EFF BrandyWine 07/31/2001 41  I've met individuals who qualify geniph Jul-31-01 34    Compassionate Consevative=Oxymoron whyzayker 07/31/2001 35        Compassionate consevative DEM FAN 07/31/2001 36  Can't believe no one's said BreadAndCircuses Jul-31-01 38    Hmmm...... ThJ 07/31/2001 39  Quote dback Jul-31-01 42    A Compassionate Conservative geniph 08/01/2001 44  Simply put: A one term President ChicagoDem Jul-31-01 43  A "compassionate conservative" is kentuck Aug-01-01 46    An Example of "Compassionate Conservatism" LouieBee 08/01/2001 47  I've a friend who defines Kurovski Aug-06-01 48

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Gore1FL (1551 posts) Jul-30-01, 09:01 PM (ET) 1. "Compassionate Conservatism" Saying one thing and doing another. see also Oxymoron The Underground Lives!   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Top

5thGenDemocrat (165 posts) Jul-30-01, 09:07 PM (ET) 2. "Damn." Well, "moron," anyhow. Man, Gore1FL, you gotta stop swiping our lines before we can even get to them.   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Top

proud patriot (171 posts) Jul-30-01, 09:11 PM (ET) 4. "Well" It means to be a person who is an oxymoron... PEACE....LOVE....AND ACTIVISM   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Top

dusty64 (965 posts) Jul-30-01, 09:08 PM (ET) 3. "Can't help you." I've heard that mythical creature went extinct years ago, if it ever existed at all.   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Top

Kool Kitty (45 posts) Jul-30-01, 09:18 PM (ET) 8. "How about just a regular moron?" (Speaking of which, or bitch, guess who's on Larry King again? Barbara Olson. Jeez, does Larry owe her money or something?) I can't give you a definition for "compassionate conservative". I just don't get it. A conservative is for the death penalty (usually), but someone who is compassionate wouldn't want to kill that person. I don't know. I quess I just don't get it. I'll Have to think about it some more.   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Top

birdman (38 posts) Jul-30-01, 09:12 PM (ET) 5. "an" oxymoron   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Top

newyawker99 (183 posts) Jul-30-01, 09:16 PM (ET) 6. "since oxymoron" was already used, I would say it is an impossibility!!!   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Top

enki23 (1002 posts) Jul-30-01, 09:16 PM (ET) 7. "actually" i've heard they're generally found in the vicinity of invisible pink unicorns.   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Top

jmm (163 posts) Jul-30-01, 09:20 PM (ET) 9. "In one word" Hypocrite "...the same observations of a great man will apply to the court of a president possessing the powers of a monarch, that is observed of that of a monarch-ambition with idleness-baseness with pride-the thirst of riches without labor-aversion to truth-flattery-treason-perfidy-violation of engagements-contempt of civil duties-hope from the magistrate's weakness: but above all the perpetual ridicule of virtue..." -"Letter of Cato No. 4" 1787   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Top

retyred (44 posts) Jul-30-01, 09:29 PM (ET) 10. "A Compassionate Conservative is" One that has the decency to expire without being a burden on me!   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Top

mvd (166 posts) Jul-30-01, 09:31 PM (ET) 11. "A compassionate conservative" LAST EDITED ON Jul-30-01 AT 09:32 PM (ET) is a conservative in disguise!   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Top

scramjet (1 posts) Jul-30-01, 09:38 PM (ET) 12. "What is a Compassionate Conservative?" One who picks on people who are less than "perfect" They can do no wrong   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Top

orangepeel68 (251 posts) Jul-30-01, 09:42 PM (ET) 13. "The real answer, of course," LAST EDITED ON Jul-30-01 AT 09:58 PM (ET) is that "compassionate conservatism" is a bunch of bullshit. If you are asking what the republicans are/were trying to sell as compassionate conservatism, it is basically the idea that the compassionate thing to do with poor people is to "empower" them to help themselves. This, apparently, is done by 1) decreasing their reliance on "entitlements" like affirmative action and welfare and 2) by encouraging them to have "strong moral values." In other words, traditional conservatism holds that people are on their own -- the Government has no business helping them (its business is helping business). "Compassionate" conservatism holds this as well, but rationalizes the hard-hearted nature of it away with the explanation that churches and other "faith based" programs will pick up the slack. There is also a very strong implication that if people were only more moral, they wouldn't need any help. I think it is kind of like when a horse breaks a leg, a rancher might say the "compassionate" thing to do would be to "put it out of its misery." Republicans view the poor like horses with broken legs. They think the best thing to do is put them out of their misery. Quote from "The Center for the Study of Compassionate Conservatism" compassionate conservatives believe that prosperity must have a moral purpose, that its economic fruits must be available to as many citizens as possible. To accomplish their goals, however, compassionate conservatives do not believe in a paternalistic form of governance in which decisions that affect all people—no matter what their personal beliefs, values, and outlooks—are made at the top by professional bureaucrats. Compassionate conservatives do not believe in big government programs that simply throw money at people, that discourage personal choice and responsibility, or that result in keeping people forever out of the mainstream of American life.   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Top

ThJ (140 posts) Jul-30-01, 11:50 PM (ET) 16. "Interesting site" Thanks for posting that link. ________________________________________________________________ Put not thy faith in princes... in whom there is no help. - Psalm 146:3   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Top

Hamlette (430 posts) Jul-30-01, 11:55 PM (ET) 18. "Olasky" coined the phrase. Olasky believes in turning over all social programs, and policy, including social security, to charities. Read up on him (book reviews on Amazon is a good place to start.) They are flying this under the rader. No one asked Bush if he agreed with Olasky but Bush did refer to Olasky as his guru. Don't tell me you're a Christian. Let me figure it out for myself.   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Top

Lexingtonian (26 posts) Jul-31-01, 01:18 PM (ET) 29. "There was a good article on Olasky" by Joan Didion in the New York Review of Books last year. She shishkebobs him, of course. He's a reactionary Jewish convert to iirc Southern Presbyterianism or Southern Baptism. http://www.nybooks.com (They don't let you link to pieces directly. Use their internal search engine. She also has great pieces on the other political and cultural topics there.)   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Top

Musashi (29 posts) Jul-30-01, 09:49 PM (ET) 14. "They don't even buy it" I know some conservatives who think that the term "compassionate conservative" is crap. Even they know there is nothing "compassionate" about "conservatism".   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Top

Lexingtonian (26 posts) Jul-31-01, 01:20 PM (ET) 30. "Arthur Schlessinger's opinion" I saw an interview with Arthur Schlessinger last fall and they asked him about the term. I think it was on McNeill-Lehrer. As best I can recall he said "It's an admission that there's nothing compassionate about conservatism."   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Top

ThJ (140 posts) Jul-30-01, 11:47 PM (ET) 15. "First, we must understand what conservatism is." CONSERVATISM A political philosophy that tends to support the status quo and advocates change only in moderation. Conservatism upholds the value of tradition, and seeks to preserve all that is good about the past. Irishman Edmund Burke, in his Reflections on the Revolution in France (1790), compared society to a living organism that has taken time to grow and mature, so it should not be suddenly uprooted. Innovation, when necessary (in the states' judgement), should be grafted onto the strong stem of traditional institutions and ways of doing things: "it is with infinite caution that any man ought to venture upon pulling down an edifice which has answered in any tolerable degree for ages the common purposes of society.". Conservatives are usually social engineers by default (status quo). The term compassion as been added as an adjective, merely for political convience. Rightly or wrongly, conservatives are generally portrayed as not being compassionate. By assigning this adjective to the term conservative, it is hoped that these portrayals can be countered. So, a compassionate conservative is someone who believes in the above, but does not which to be portrayed, in the political arena, as compassionless. _________________________________________________________________ Put not thy faith in princes... in whom there is no help. - Psalm 146:3   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Top

EFF BrandyWine (98 posts) Jul-31-01, 05:48 PM (ET) 40. "there it is in a nutshell..." conservatism seeks to preserve (all that is good) about the past. The point is the right tries to preserve the whole past, most of which was not so good for a whole lot of people. They loved (and still love) the Donna Reed show because it was so unrealistic for everyone else but they could pretend that was real life and perhaps for some of them it was. But the so called compassionate conservative is merely a phrase that draws frowns and smiles from those intelligent enough to know it doesn't exist. It is an enigma because any group that would cut programs that are truly compassionate toward those who cannot help themselves have no compassion in their hearts...many have no hearts. Bush jumped on it because it sounded nice and the fact that it made no sense didn't bother him in the least. He prattled it every chance he got until I wanted to Compassion means caring. Giving a damn about your fellow man who is in pain or hungry or needy. Conservative means...according to an old dictionary...backwards, clinging to the past, unwilling to support progress. So how can you put those two words together and make them mean something? You can't. Only an ignorant, arrogant hushpuppy would try it and make fifty million nuts believe it. By the way, have any of you heard some of those fifty million sound just a tad nervous about the way things are going? I have. "The Republic holds its collective breath."   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Top

Ohgosh (92 posts) Jul-30-01, 11:51 PM (ET) 17. "Wells without water" Clouds without rain.   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Top

bvar22 (344 posts) Jul-30-01, 11:56 PM (ET) 19. "Compassionate Conservative:" Same Fascist Evil in a new wrapper. I wonder how many think tanks and focus groups it took to come up with this bullshit. ============================================= Their crime will follow them through history !   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Top

Gore1FL (1551 posts) Jul-30-01, 11:59 PM (ET) 20. "It could also be" A thief with excellent customer service skills. The Underground Lives!   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Top

enki23 (1002 posts) Jul-31-01, 00:15 AM (ET) 21. "I've got it" LAST EDITED ON Jul-31-01 AT 00:16 AM (ET) a compassionate conservative is this: They still believe God loves them better than you, but they're compassionate enough not to bring it up over dinner. They still believe money is the best measure of a life, and though your life isn't worth much, they do believe "a penny saved is a penny earned." They usually ask the butler to pick it up. They won't tell you to your face that you're going to hell, they'll just hand you the tract. They don't "seriously" advocate feeding the homeless to the hungry It's just a figure of speech. They absolutely, postively, will NEVER have sex with someone they aren't married to, except when the damned tease is REALLY asking for it. They'll pray before and after. Sometimes during. They believe Jesus hates the sin but only feels a moderate amount of homicidal rage toward the hell-bound sinner. They're willing to settle for life imprisonment for a first-offense flag-burning.   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Top

KMAbush (155 posts) Jul-31-01, 00:25 AM (ET) 22. "I love words." Just turn that turdy little phrase around. Think about Conservative Compassion for a minute. Is that even more oxymoronic? Compassion by its very nature is not conservative. Oh, those tricky Repukes. How they do slaughter our English language.   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Top

Lonnie S (131 posts) Aug-01-01, 06:44 PM (ET) 45. "Now this is a truism...." ""Think about Conservative Compassion for a minute. Is that even more oxymoronic? Compassion by its very nature is not conservative."" In geometry I learned to define the angle by it's opposites. I really love this definition! Good on you, KMAbush. BTW, lately, as a term of total disgust, exasperation, irritation, constipation, whatever...., I've been saying "Buck Fush!"   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Top

New England (123 posts) Jul-31-01, 03:19 AM (ET) 23. "The "Clampetts". Jethro,Granny,EllyMay,Jeb :-)" "Pubbies whine and moan because they can't legislate. Then they get elected and prove they can't."   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Top

Piperay (743 posts) Jul-31-01, 03:53 AM (ET) 24. "It would compare with..." "the Philip Morris way of thinking". They kill you off with their tabacco products and claim it benefits society because it saves money. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Lynn Piper GOP = Gas Oil & Petroleum   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Top

neuvocat (524 posts) Jul-31-01, 04:49 AM (ET) 25. "Its just like an intelligent conservative." There's just no such thing. ======== Democratic Underground-Because our members are antibodies for the body politic.   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Top

ukcritic (34 posts) Jul-31-01, 09:10 AM (ET) 26. "Compassionate conservatism" I guess it means that you like to execute blacks, but you shake their hands. http://www.ukcritic.com   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Top

tom_paine (224 posts) Jul-31-01, 09:39 AM (ET) 27. "I actually had a long conversation with someone who believed that lie" They were unshakable in their belief that it wasn't bulshit. Of course, that was early on in the King George appointment. So far as I can tell the compassionate conservative is a straw man/woman. Just many people do not observe the ACTIONS of IL Bushe (oftimes denied that ability by the sterile, puscillanimous corporate media), but merely listen to HIS WORDS (which, in and of itself indicates a degradation of our national character), facts do not impress them either. Compassionate conservatism is repeated over and over and over again, therefore it must exist. Examples not forthcoming? So what. So many pundits, politicians, and "journalists" wouldn't repeat a self-serving LIE over and over and over...IT MUST BE THE TRUTH! Who could continue to believe a lie which has been so thoroughly debunked by IL Bushe's actions? Might as well ask how Germans could believe that "terrorists" burned down the Reichstag? Advertising & marketing, now developed into ruthless, brutal, mind-raping sciences, have fused with psychology and are being used unmercifully against the American People by the American Neofascist movement... IN CONCLUSION: "COMPASSIONATE CONSERVATISM IS A MARKETING GIMMICK THAT DEOSN'T EXIST, THAT NEVER REALLY EXISTED, like that Survivor show where a nation was convinced that it wasn't fixed, that thse people were really "roughing it", and that there wasn't a village of dozens of tents, production assistants,e tc., helping these people along (which it was later shown repeatdely was the case). How many people STILL believe the lie of an "unrigged Survivor"? It's times like these that I think that we (not us presonally, collectively as a society of degenerate charcter--I don't mean this in the Christian Coalition sense, but that so few of us have any guiding or firm principles anymore, beyond how far we would go to "do what we have to do") DESERVE Bushista rule. ========================================== "The hottest places in hell are resrved for those who, in times of moral crisis, preserve their neutrality." --Dante "And what is a Tory? Good God! what is he? I should not be afraid to go with a hundred Whigs against a thousand Tories, were they to attempt to get into arms. Every Tory is a coward; for servile, slavish, self-interested fear is the foundation of Toryism; and a man under such influence, though he may be cruel, never can be brave.” --Thomas Paine “Let them call me rebel and welcome, I feel no concern from it; but I should suffer the misery of devils, were I to make a whore of my soul by swearing allegiance to one whose character is that of a sottish, stupid, stubborn, worthless, brutish man.” --Thomas Paine, referring to King George "I could carve a better man out of a banana." --Theodore Roosevelt, who would be a DEMOCRAT today   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Top

EOTE (266 posts) Jul-31-01, 10:17 AM (ET) 28. "I'm sorry guys..." but you misheard... The catch phrase used during the RNC was "Passionate Conservatism" not "Compassionate Conservatism". It's a common misperception that was only strengthened when shrub started to hit the campaign trail after receiving a lesson in prefixes with Colin Powell. The conversation went something like this; Shrub: So Colin, you're tellin' me that flammable and inflammable mean the same thing? What sense does that make? Colin: Yes George, one is capable of being in flames and the other is capable of burning, it's the same difference? Shrub: Same difference? Now I'm really confused. Colin: Look prefixes don't always negate the adjective, they're simply modifiers. Didn't you learn this in school? Shrub: Nah, they didn't teach us anything at Yale. Damn public schools! Colin: So do you understand now? Shrub: Yeah, I think so. So instead of a passionate conservative, I can be an inpassionate conservative. Colin: Well, actually the word would be compassionate. But I could hardly associate compassionate with repub.... Shrub: That's it!! I'm a compassionate conservative! Thanks Colin, I'm glad we had this talk. Colin: But wait! But before Colin could stop him, the man who would be president was off to campaign. Fairly soon, the public began to buy into the compassionate conservative spiel without even realizing that it was simply one of the thousands of verbal gaffes their candidate had been using all along. Bush advisor Karl Rove had contemplated correcting him during his second post RNC speech, but by then the anachronistic concept of compassionate conservatism had taken off. I hope this clears things up. ____________________________________________________________ "You teach a child to read, and he or her will be able to pass a literacy test.'' -Shrub ____________________________________________________________ "There's no such thing as legacies. At least, there is a legacy, but I'll never see it." -Shrub   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Top

Guinastasia (70 posts) Jul-31-01, 01:33 PM (ET) 31. "a compassionate conservative..." Ariana Huffington....   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Top

caab (150 posts) Jul-31-01, 01:36 PM (ET) 32. "all of the above" and let us not forget that in the end it only means that conservatives are compassionate about conservatism.   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Top

Cappurr (665 posts) Jul-31-01, 01:49 PM (ET) 33. "I think the real issue...." is what uninformed voters THOUGHT it meant. Through a lot of devious double-talk, the bushies let people think that compassionate conservative meant moderate. It doesn't. People were thoroughly fooled.   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Top

ThJ (140 posts) Jul-31-01, 05:30 PM (ET) 37. "The Real Reason" For using the term "compassionate" was political. It was aimed at those voters you mentioned. Compassionate conservatism is no different than regular conservatism, philosophically or politically, but it just sounds different, which was the reason for using the term "compassionate." Please see my original post at #15. _________________________________________________________________ Put not thy faith in princes... in whom there is no help. - Psalm 146:3   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Top

EFF BrandyWine (98 posts) Jul-31-01, 05:59 PM (ET) 41. "exactly right..." LAST EDITED ON Jul-31-01 AT 06:01 PM (ET) Cappurr...moderate is exactly what they thought they were getting with dubya. He smiled and trotted out the waitress with two kids and hugged the people and made them believe it. He almost had me convinced he would at least be a centrist and I'm a yellow dog Democrat. Politicians always make promises and usually by the time the election is over nobody remembers what they promised. This guy kept his promises...to the big money buddies. Remember "help is on the way?" We all know who got it. $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ "Oh where is the help for The Bleeding Republic?"   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Top

geniph (1505 posts) Jul-31-01, 04:07 PM (ET) 34. "I've met individuals who qualify" ...people who really do good works, who contribute their hard-earned money to charities, people of faith who don't proselytize those of other beliefs...but I surely cannot point to one in public life. ============= Geni   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Top

whyzayker (1078 posts) Jul-31-01, 05:14 PM (ET) 35. "Compassionate Consevative=Oxymoron" There is NO SUCH THING as a "compassionate conservative!" Dubya proved it! Case closed!   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Top

DEM FAN (44 posts) Jul-31-01, 05:23 PM (ET) 36. "Compassionate consevative" What does It mean to be a Compassionate Consevative. In BUSHES case IT MEANS A ASSHOLE.   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Top

BreadAndCircuses (110 posts) Jul-31-01, 05:30 PM (ET) 38. "Can't believe no one's said" A compassionate conservative is...A DEMOCRAT! If Dubya says he, or any other Republican, is one, then he's a big stupid idiot with his head up his butt. But we already knew that, didn't we?   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Top

ThJ (140 posts) Jul-31-01, 05:32 PM (ET) 39. "Hmmm......" If you define Democrats as conservative, see post #15, then perhaps you're right. _________________________________________________________________ Put not thy faith in princes... in whom there is no help. - Psalm 146:3   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Top

dback (64 posts) Jul-31-01, 06:04 PM (ET) 42. "Quote" "Would you kiss me?...Can I have a kiss?...See, I like to get kissed when I'm being fucked." --Al Pacino, "Dog Day Afternoon" And that, my friends, is Compassionate Conservatism in a nutshell.   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Top

geniph (1505 posts) Aug-01-01, 06:29 PM (ET) 44. "A Compassionate Conservative" ...is one who offers to use Vaseline... ============= Geni   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Top

ChicagoDem (41 posts) Jul-31-01, 08:37 PM (ET) 43. "Simply put: A one term President" LAST EDITED ON Jul-31-01 AT 08:38 PM (ET) It runs in the genes......, or should I say jeans?   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Top

kentuck (335 posts) Aug-01-01, 08:01 PM (ET) 46. "A "compassionate conservative" is" a lying, deceitful, hypocritical, cheating, unpatriotic, thieving, greedy, bellicose radical.   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Top

LouieBee (20 posts) Aug-01-01, 08:25 PM (ET) 47. "An Example of "Compassionate Conservatism"" Give all the illegal aliens amnesty so they can work in this country. That's compassion. Don't let them earn more than a starvation wage so they can never realize the American dream. Now, thats conservative!   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Top

Kurovski (28 posts) Aug-06-01, 01:50 AM (ET) 48. "I've a friend who defines" a compassionate conservative as one whose philosophy is "I'm so sorry you're not ME."   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Top

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