"Starving for Intelligence.......SAY WHAT!!!!! "

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NNN0LHI (1129 posts) Dec-19-01, 02:51 PM (ET) "Starving for Intelligence.......SAY WHAT!!!!! " Bruce Lee--the author, not the karate guy--says that September 11 happened because "we starved our intelligence agencies." We have been hearing this ever since. Get ready for a huge increase in "intelligence" spending, as well as "taking the handcuffs off." But let’s see if we can kill this handsome theory with some ugly facts. Here is a list of our intelligence agencies we know about: Central Intelligence Agency The Directorate of Operations The Directorate of Intelligence The Directorate of Science and Technology (DS&T) The National Intelligence Council (NIC) Department of Defense National Security Agency (NSA) Defense Intelligence Agency (DIA) Central Measurements and Signature Intelligence Office (CMO) Tactical Intelligence And Related Activities (TIARA) The National Reconnaissance Office (NRO) The Defense Airborne Reconnaissance Office (DARO) Central Imagery Office (CIO) Army--National Ground Intelligence Center Navy--National Maritime Intelligence Center Air Force--National Air Intelligence Center Marine Corps Intelligence Activity Joint Intelligence Centers United States Atlantic Command (ACOM) United States Central Command (CENTCOM) United States European Command (EUCOM) United States Pacific Command (PACOM) United States Southern Command (SOUTHCOM) United States Space Command (SPACECOM) United States Special Operations Command (SOCOM) United States Strategic Command (STRATCOM) United States Transportation Command (TRANSCOM) The Department of State's Bureau of Intelligence and Research (INR) The Department of Energy: DOE's Office of Intelligence The Department of Treasury: Treasury's Office of Intelligence Support Federal Bureau of Investigation--National Security Division The National Foreign Intelligence Board (NFIB) The Intelligence Community Executive Committee (IC/EXCOM) National HUMINT Requirements Tasking Center Central Imagery Office (CIO) President's Foreign Intelligence Advisory Board (PFIAB) President's Intelligence Oversight Board (IOB) Senate Select Committee on Intelligence (SSCI) House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence (HPSCI)<snip> ...more... http://www.mises.org/fullstory.asp?control=842   Alert Edit | Reply | Top

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Subject     Author     Message Date     ID    It's the same argument as DrGonzoLives Dec-19-01 1  Bull Shit bleedingheart Dec-19-01 2  And those intelligence agencies kainah Dec-20-01 3    probably keeping their eye on the other 'intelligences' enki23 12/20/2001 4    Naval Intelligence, DISA, and all those spy guys AlienGirl 12/20/2001 5        Naval Intelligence kainah 12/20/2001 6            Intelligence Be Damned Mary T 12/21/2001 7            Extreme Tracking AlienGirl 12/21/2001 8

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DrGonzoLives (3421 posts) Dec-19-01, 02:54 PM (ET) 1. "It's the same argument as" "Clinton gutted the military." It's bullshit. The problem is that ever since Raygun, the military/intelligence community has been buying toys instead of spending money on human beings, without which there IS no military or intelligence community. ===================================== "Is a dream a lie that don't come true? Or is it something worse?" - Bruce Springsteen, "The River" "You can get more with a kind word and a two-by-four than with a kind word alone" - Marcus, "Babylon 5" "East, West, just points of the compass, each as stupid as the other." - Dr. No   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Top

bleedingheart (407 posts) Dec-19-01, 06:57 PM (ET) 2. "Bull Shit" Ya know John Walker's parents bought him tickets to Middle East to find religion and he managed to get in thick with the Taliban ...granted I doubt he ever got close to OBL but he didn't have the budget of the CIA and he got closer than our own intelligence did. hahaha Sorry but more money for them is completely out of the question. They are such a bunch of leeches who got caught with their pants down and now they are asking for more money!   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Top

kainah (1226 posts) Dec-20-01, 08:10 PM (ET) 3. "And those intelligence agencies" were all over everything back in the 60s under Cointelpro. I remember when I was first researching Kent State and discovered that NAVAL INTELLIGENCE had been active there. What's with that??? A land-locked university has active NAVAL INTELLIGENCE running around? You can no more win a war than you can win an earthquake. -- Jeannette Rankin War is God's way of teaching Americans geography. -- Ambrose Bierce The Mourning Bow Campaign   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Top

enki23 (1977 posts) Dec-20-01, 08:21 PM (ET) Reply to post #3 4. "probably keeping their eye on the other 'intelligences'" When I give food to the poor, they call me a saint. When I ask why the poor have no food, they call me a communist. --Dom Helder Camara   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Top

AlienGirl (119 posts) Dec-20-01, 09:14 PM (ET) Reply to post #3 5. "Naval Intelligence, DISA, and all those spy guys" Well, at my old website--which I took down after Homestead started charging--I used to get regular "hits" from Naval intelligence, the Defense Information Services Agency, and (bizarrely) the Navy's space warfare command center (SPAWAR), which I didn't even know *existed*. At the new site, the only .gov hit I've gotten was NASA's Langley office. Now what in the heck does SPAWAR want with my personal website, which (back then) was non-political? Tucker "When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro."--Hunter S. Thompson   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Top

kainah (1226 posts) Dec-20-01, 10:24 PM (ET) Reply to post #5 6. "Naval Intelligence" really seems to me to be one of those great hidden agencies. The research into them that I did in the late '70s absolutely astounded me. It was unreal how broad-based their intelligence was. And that is really bizarre that all those government agencies would have been viewing your site. I wonder who stops by my 19th century western history site? You can no more win a war than you can win an earthquake. -- Jeannette Rankin War is God's way of teaching Americans geography. -- Ambrose Bierce The Mourning Bow Campaign   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Top

Mary T (121 posts) Dec-21-01, 00:43 AM (ET) Reply to post #6 7. "Intelligence Be Damned" Naval Intelligence, Military Intelligence, Government Intelligence, CIA-FBI Intelligence, Merikan Intelligence, Police Intelligence, GOP Intelligence, NRA Intelligence, and on, and on. What do they have in common? They are all oxymorons. And no, that does not mean a pimple cream for retards. Although on further inspection, it just might! When you can't freely express yourself, you're already behind bars. Mbanna Kantako   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Top

AlienGirl (119 posts) Dec-21-01, 01:00 AM (ET) Reply to post #6 8. "Extreme Tracking" For the past two years or so I've used http://www.extreme-dm.com/tracking/?npt, a good site-usage meter. It's free and it'll tell you who your last 20 visitors are from. If all you see is their IP number, you can look that up at http://www.arin.net/whois and find out who they are. It can really be quite...interesting. About the third time you see Naval Intelligence, you gotta figure either they're wasting Our Tax Dollars playing around online, or they are actually lookin' at ya. Tucker "When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro."--Hunter S. Thompson   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Top

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