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0|0|Who will be Gore%27s running mate in 2004%3F|kali||23:38:06|02/09/2001|From most of our posts I see that Gore is still the frontrunner for the Presidential candidate.  I would like to get opinions on a running mate.
1|1|Lieberman|mw||00:33:58|02/10/2001|And they should have identically-designed %22Gore%2FLieberman%22 blue signs.%0D%0A%0D%0AThat would force the right wingnuts%2C of course%2C to chant %22Sore Loserman%22%2C and then we%27d have the fight we never had over Selection 2000.  %0D%0A%0D%0A
2|2|mw|kali||00:48:20|02/10/2001|do you think he will want to run again%3F  I haven%27t heard or seen anything about it.  BTW there is a great protest action going on right now on Buzzflash.com - They want everyone to send letters to the WH on President%27s day.  They want the outside of the letters to just say %22the President%22 but they want people to address the letters on the inside to %22President Gore%22.  That%27s pretty damn funny%2C I think.
3|3|ROFL%21  That IS funny%21|mw||01:02:32|02/10/2001|Sign me up%21%0D%0A%0D%0AI tell ya%2C I dont know what Gore will do.  He%27s playing it smart right now%3A  staying  mum on the subject.%0D%0A%0D%0ABut Terry McAuliffe%2C DNC Chief%2C said last Sunday it will be %22Gore in 04%22.  %0D%0A%0D%0AI%27m mixed.  If Gore wants runs%2C I want him to correct his mistakes from his last campaign%3A%0D%0A%0D%0A1%29 AGGRESSIVELY beat back the Bush lying nonsense about %22Gore being a liar%22 and the like.  Gore let the Bush propoganda team eat him alive with nonsensical bullshit.  Gore needed a WAR ROOM in 2000%2C but didnt have one.  He needs one in 04.%0D%0A%0D%0A2%29  EMBRACE the honorable%2C decent presidency of Bill Clinton%2C and all the Clinton%2FGore team did for America.  It will be easier then%2C once Shrub has %22broken%22 every so-called %22rule%22 that the right blasted Clinton for.%0D%0A%0D%0A3%29 Don%27t allow Shrub to dictate the rules of the debates %28the %22Even a chimp could debate using these rules%22 Bush clause%29%0D%0A%0D%0A %0D%0A%0D%0A
4|4|kali.  I dont see that article on Buzzflash.  Can you link%3F  |mw||01:09:51|02/10/2001|thanks.
5|5|here it is|kali||01:20:56|02/10/2001|http%3A%2F%2Fhome.pacbell.net%2Ficemuse%2Flettersgore%2F%0D%0A
7|6|That is a BEAUTIFUL thing%21  Thanks%21|mw||01:26:19|02/10/2001|x
6|4|sure about al|kali||01:23:23|02/10/2001|I%27m pretty sure that gore will run again.  I don%27t know if leiberman will want to - he%27s kinda trying to make the best out of a bad situation now.%0D%0A%0D%0AAgree%2C I%27m sure McAuliffe will help guide him through some strategy sessions.
8|5|With all due respect to Mr. Gore...|TygrBright||02:18:35|02/10/2001|I see a couple of reasons why 2004 might be tough with Gore as our candidate%2C and they%27re based on some of the same reasons the 2000 vote was NOT an overwhelming landslide for the Democrats.  %28Besides the money spent by the GOP--which I agree is the main reason%2C and I ain%27t talking about above-the-table campaign contributions.%29%0D%0A%0D%0ABe that as it may...%0D%0A%0D%0AAl is bright%2C thoughtful%2C and sort of marginally liberal.  He did best right after the convention%2C where he delivered a speech full of traditional liberal Democratic values.  I think it was the first time our voters could really identify with what the Democratic party wanted.  But Al%27s record in the legislative branch%2C while fairly liberal on technology%2C first amendment%2C and environmental issues%2C is not very liberal in other areas.  So either he has to run as a not-liberal to be consistent with his own history%2C or he has to have a %22conversion%2C%22 or he has to run as a liberal and get a lot of challenge for not walking the walk.  I can%27t see any of those as very effective in an electorate where the GOP will have had four years in power to marshall the money and the resources to oppose him.%0D%0A%0D%0AIf he runs as a not-liberal%2C we end up with the same problem we%27ve had in the past--we can%27t mobilize our core constituency because they just don%27t see enough reason to get out there and support a candidate who%27s not going to deliver what they really need.%0D%0A%0D%0AIf he has a %22conversion%2C%22 and suddenly decides he IS a real liberal all the way--and it may even be a real conversion%2C I give him credit for being smart and principled and that%27s a good foundation for such an epiphany--it will be about as convincing to a cynical%2C jaded electorate as such conversions usually are.%0D%0A%0D%0AIf he claims he is%2C and has always been%2C and always will be%2C a liberal%2C he will doubtless get challenged on things like his 1977 vote to prohibit people from accessing publicly-funded legal assistance for disputes arising out of gay rights issues.  %28A vote which was substantially repeated%2C by the way%2C by a %22yes%22 vote in 1980 on the McDonald amendment to prohibit the Legal Services Corporation from assisting in gay rights cases.%29  He%27ll get challenged for voting with Bob Dornan on preventing the IRS from removing the tax-exempt status of private schools which discriminate on the basis of race %281980.%29  His 1991 vote against Simon%27s amendment to substitute mandatory life without parole for current death-penalty requirements in the Omnibus Crime Bill might tell against him.  His two 1984 votes against bills designed to balance the budget %28at the height of a brutal recession%29 without cutting vital safety-net programs for the poor and disadvantaged may give some people pause.  His support of the Gramm-Rudman-Hollings voodoo finance programs during the Reagan era might be questioned.  And how about his 1977 vote in favor of forcing food-stamp recipients to participate in make-work %22labor exchange%22 programs in order to get their food stamps%3F  I won%27t even go into his 70%27s and 80%27s voting records on foreign policy issues--suffice to say they can%27t be construed as %22liberal%22 even on a generous stretch.%0D%0A%0D%0AAnother reason he might not be the best choice in 2004--%0D%0A%0D%0AHe had the full backing of the Party and plenty of money to spend on help to either overcome his %22block of wood%22 image or turn it into an asset%2C and he succeeded in neither.  I just don%27t think he%27ll be able to do it in %2704 either.%0D%0A%0D%0A%0D%0AIf Gore wins the nomination in %2704 I%27ll work for him%2C vote for him%2C and be pleased if he%27s elected.  He%27s not a bad guy and he%27s so far ahead of ANYONE the GOP could run against him that it would be a major improvement.  But I%27m not sure he can overcome the problems of his un-excitingness and the ambiguity in his liberal credentials.  And that might spell a problem for us.%0D%0A%0D%0AHe%27d be a great Veeper again%2C though.  But that%27s not a feasible idea either.%0D%0A%0D%0Areluctantly%2C%0D%0ABright
21|6|And why I %2Aalmost%2A voted for Nader|Lydia Leftcoast||00:33:28|02/17/2001|Everything you said about Gore is true%2C Bright%2C and let%27s not forget his support of the Contras and his votes to confirm Thomas and Scalia.%0D%0A%0D%0AWe need to get away from the Democratic Leadership Council. Only Clinton had the personality and the political smarts to overcome their leadweight influence.%0D%0A%0D%0A
22|7|also...|TygrBright||01:56:20|02/17/2001|%3E%3EEverything you said about Gore is true%2C Bright%2C and let%27s not forget his support of the Contras and his votes to confirm Thomas and Scalia.%3C%3C%0D%0A%0D%0AAnd I didn%27t even mention the fact that from the %22neutron bomb%22 to SDI%2C the man apparently never met a huge defense technology porkbarrel that he didn%27t like.%0D%0A%0D%0AWhich lends a note of delicious irony to the concept that the %22military%22 vote went to Bush who is now saying %22increase%3F  what increase%3F%22 to the Pentagon.%0D%0A%0D%0Abemusedly%2C%0D%0ABright
23|6|Gore|ajreinha||19:36:46|02/17/2001|Any current or former Senator will always have certain blemishes on their voting records because they tend to make so many votes and many bills that they vote on have so many provisions that they usually don%27t agree%2Fdisagree with every single one of them.  This is why it is much harder for Senators to become President rather than Governors.  I forget the statistic but Bush%2C Clinton%2C Reagan%2C and Carter were all former Govs whereas Dole%2C Gore%2C and Mondale were former Senators.  The reason is usually that as a Senator%2C one specializes in making compromises and creating consensus whereas Governors lead with authority.  Also%2C long-time senators%2C like Dole%2C have long voting records.  This hurt Dole%2C I remember in the commercial Clinton ran that said he voted something like 160 times to raise taxes while in the Senate.  Of course%2C most of these tax increases were probably small and didnot effect many people but it still sounds like a meaningful statistic.  That%27s why I don%27t think it%27s fair to pick and choose a handful of votes from someone who%27s spent a few terms in the senate and judge them only on that.%0D%0A  Oh%2C and I would go crazy with joy if Evan Bayh %28a former governor and current Senator..%29 was the democratic nominee.  He%27s a fiscally conservative Dem. %28just like me%29 and a Midwesterner %28just like me%29.  Plus he%27s young and dynamic and could give the party the energy we need for a succesful 2004 bid.  As for vp. I don%27t really think it%27s important.  Pick a real liberal like Boxer so that we can shut up the leftists in our party who cost us the 2000 election with their Nader nonsense.  Or offer the vp to Nader if he wants it%2C although I don%27t think he would accept.  Just suggestions... 
24|7|Apparently I need to %22shut up%22.  But I won%27t.|Treehugger||23:54:21|02/18/2001|So the leftists in the party just need to %22shut up%22%2C eh%3F  That is utterly offensive to me.  %0D%0A%0D%0AFirst off%2C the %22leftists%22 %28hmm. . .apparently that is a bad word within the party now%3F  I did not know that.%29 did NOT cost Gore the election.  That accusation just pisses me the hell off. I did vote for Gore%2C albeit very resentfully.%0D%0A%0D%0AMaybe if Gore would have had some guts to take an actual stance on things we would not have lost the election. The debate moderator was left asking the candidates what distinguished the two of them from one another. Give me a break.%0D%0A%0D%0AMaybe if Gore would have actually tried to address some of the concerns brought up by the Nader voters we would not have lost the election.  Instead he IGNORED them%2C which made them angrier.%0D%0A%0D%0AMaybe if Gore would have had an iota of forgiveness for Clinton%27s shortcomings he would have allowed him to campaign for him%2C picking up some votes in the south.  But Gore could not forgive him.  He instead offered Clinton a swift kick in the teeth.  Gore%27s inability to forgive Clinton helped cost us the election.%0D%0A%0D%0AIf Gore does run in 2004 I will do everything I can to work for a Democratic candidate who will defeat him in the primary.  I do NOT want Gore to run again.  I%27m sure he%27s a very holy human being and a nice guy to know or whatever%2C but he does not adequately address my concerns.%0D%0A%0D%0AWhat would be really cool is if we actually voted for a western Democrat someday. Guess they don%27t think we%27re civilized enough out here. Oh well%2C back to the ranch.  Gotta go get the ol%27 cattle iron out now.  Gonna brand them with a big ol%27 %22L%22%2C for %22leftist%22.
25|7|I want to cry|Treehugger||02:27:08|02/19/2001|I%27m sorry%2C just one more thing%2C in response to the following quote%3A%0D%0A%0D%0A%22As for vp. I don%27t really think it%27s important. Pick a real liberal like Boxer so that we can shut up the leftists in our party who cost us the 2000 election with their Nader nonsense.%22 %0D%0A%0D%0AYou know that REALLY hurts my feelings.  And it%27s not just the opinion of one person%2C it is the sentiment of many.  I feel as though I%27m being utterly abandoned by the party to whom I%27ve been so very loyal all these years.  My OWN party is saying that my voice is not important.  How%27s that supposed to make me feel%3F  It makes my heart convulse.  %0D%0A%0D%0AAt this point I am wholly disillusioned.  I never thought I%27d see the day when I might want to register as an independent.  The Democratic Party is blowing it%2C big time.
39|6|Re%3A Block of wood|CiCi the Psychobunny||07:41:01|04/07/2001|Right after the whole election thing was over and done and the President Select was confirmed%2C there were photos released to the media of Gore apparently at some social function or other%2C looking a tad the worse for wear and not entirely sober.%0D%0AMy main point is that the guy looked more relaxed than I have ever seen him . . . smiling%2C relaxed%2C chilling with his friends.%0D%0AWhere were pictures showing THIS side of him during the campaign%3F%0D%0AShowing Al Gore as a nice%2C friendly%2C HUMAN guy%3F%0D%0AI think he might just have KICKED some Republican ass.%0D%0A%0D%0A%2ACiCi the Psychobunny%2A%0D%0A%22Kicking fascist ass since 1558%22
9|4|Advice for Gore in Zero Four|finlander||03:15:39|02/10/2001|mw%2C%0D%0A%0D%0AOn point 1. We did try to fight the liar rap. But the %22liberally biased media%22 kept perpetuating it.%0D%0A%0D%0AOn point 2%2C embracing Clinton%2C I agree that it should be easier after four years of Bushbaby. Probably after four MONTHS of Bushbaby. A bit trickier this last time. %0D%0A%0D%0AClinton gave a great speech at the convention. And NO%2C it wasn%27t about glorifying himself%2C as the %22liberal media%22 told us repeatedly. It was about our fight against the GOP Congress and the road they were trying to lead the country down. %0D%0A%0D%0AOf course%2C a couple nights later I was astounded by Al%27s incredible acceptance speech. I say astounded%2C because to tell you the truth%2C I had given him no chance of winning the election. Not that I didn%27t think him better than Bush. The man is just a miserable speaker most of the time. Alot of people felt the same way. Democrats mind you. Like Paul Wellstone%2C who I respect immensly.%0D%0A%0D%0AThen Bradley turned out to be an even bigger dud... %0D%0A%0D%0ASo I was really surprised when Gore won the election by as big a margin as he did. %28And%2C yes%2C to answer the inevitable comment%2C I said %22won%22%2C I always will%29%0D%0A%0D%0AEven in Texas%2C where the election was basically called in March%2C Al still received nearly 2.5 million votes. %0D%0A%0D%0AI really think Gore gained more and more ground leading up to the election%2C as Busbaby was forced to actually go out and speak on a daily basis. He was kind of running a Thomas Dewey campaign until then. %0D%0A%0D%0AAnyway.. Running Mates%0D%0A%0D%0AI%27m waiting to see who emmerges as a leader in the Congress. This doesn%27t look promising by how they have been acting so far.%0D%0A%0D%0APeople I think would be great veeps%2C but would kill the ticket%3A%0D%0A%0D%0ASheila Jackson Lee%0D%0ADave Obey%0D%0AJesse Jackson%2C Jr.%0D%0A%0D%0A%0D%0A
10|5|Good words.  But I dont remember Gore defending himself|mw||03:32:26|02/10/2001|....even ONCE%2C with the %22internet%22 thing%2C the %22Love Canal%22 story%2C and all the others.%0D%0A%0D%0ANot ONCE did anyone stand up and put this lying crap to bed.  Gore figured he%27d just ignore it%2C I guess.  %0D%0A%0D%0ABut as the saying goes from the Lee Atwater School of Political Assassination %28something like%29%3A%0D%0A%0D%0A%22A false charge not refuted becomes true.%22%0D%0A
13|6|correct%2C sir|finlander||04:03:53|02/10/2001|You are correct in that Gore did not defend himself personally%2C besides joking about it on Letterman%2C which was kind of a statement that the criticisms were nonsense.%0D%0A%0D%0AYou are very right. Gore could have and should have. And it would have been devastating to the bushbaby if he had chosen to do it in one of the debates.%0D%0A%0D%0ABut Gore supporters were on every news show setting the record straight%2C and the Republicans and the media just kept on making the same stupid jokes%0D%0A%0D%0A
11|5|jj jr|kali||03:36:09|02/10/2001|yeah I like Jesse Jackson jr alot%2C but I agree it would probably kill the ticket.  It%27s unfair but there are still alot of people who don%27t want a black or a woman next in line for the presidency.  Part of it I think stems from the fact that they believe an assassination would take place just to put that person in the white house.  Jesse jr is a great guy.  good for the party no matter what position he fills.  I read today that Kerry is planning to make a run in 2004.  %0D%0AAs for Gore%27s stiffness%2C I think a couple of years with college students should take care of that.  He%27s been around suits too long.  He needed a break.
12|6|Al in a goatee|finlander||03:56:40|02/10/2001|Kali%2C%0D%0A%0D%0AColumbia just might do the trick for Al at that.%0D%0A%0D%0AYeah%2C it is sad%2C but much of this country is still too racist to have an African American president. Religiously biased. I definately think we%27ll see a Black man or woman in the White House before we see a Buddhist or Muslim or Atheist. And certainly before anyone that dresses as badly as Dave Obey.%0D%0A%0D%0AFrankly%2C I%27d sleep better at night if I knew the person with their finger on the button didn%27t believe in the inevitability of Armeggedon. I mean%2C why even be concerned about world peace or degradation of the global environment when you know how the world is going to end.%0D%0A%0D%0AI probably shouldn%27t say that. It goes against my principles of not mocking other people%27s religions. But the bushbaby keeps bringing his religious beliefs into the public forum. %28I read your comment on religion on one of the other forums - and you are correct. People keep their mouths shut out of respect and the fundamentalists run all over them. If you say anything at all%2C then they are %22persecuted%22.%29  %0D%0A%0D%0A
47|7|Not racist%2C just given poor choices|Vulture||16:11:21|05/09/2001|I don%27t think we won%27t have a black president for a long time because there are too many racists%3B that has very little to do with it in my experience.  From talking to other people%2C democrat and republican%2C a lot of people don%27t like the black politicians that are pushed forward for the possibility%2C and a lot of the widely respected black politicians are either ignored by their parties or don%27t want to even consider running.  While I probably wouldn%27t vote for either of them%2C Colin Powell and Alan Keyes are good examples of individuals who are widely respected across racial lines %28possibly even political lines%29 in my experience and could draw votes from a broad racial base.  You will never get the majority of people to vote for politicians who themselves fixate on race issues because most people view it as a social problem%2C not a political one.%0D%0A%0D%0AThis is just my two cents%2C but I think the first black president will be a black politician who is not perceived by the majority of other races as pandering to the black population.  Me%2C I%27d just settle for a solid candidate of any color%2C a more pressing issue if you ask me.%0D%0A%0D%0ACheers%21
18|4|%22ROFL%21 That IS funny%21%22|Minerva||14:49:14|02/11/2001|What really burned me up during the debates was Gore%27s insistence that he agreed with his opponent.  He was so wishy-washy that I%27m surprised he got the most votes.  Hey%2C Gore got the most votes...doesn%27t that mean he is the President%3F %7D%3E%0D%0A%0D%0A%22Ninety percent of everything is crap.%22%0D%0A- Theodore Sturgeon%0D%0A
66|4|Decent honorable Clinton presidency-when did this happen%3F|Juggernaut||00:58:02|05/26/2001|%22EMBRACE the honorable%2C decent presidency of Bill Clinton%2C and all the Clinton%2FGore team did for America. %22%0D%0A%0D%0AGonna be a quick hug%2C that%27s for sure...Did the big bad VRWC%28Vast Right Wing Conspiracy%29 make up all that bad stuff them mean people said about the things the President did%3F I can%27t think of anything he did bad right offhand%2C but even Dan Rather Biased couln%27t keep the Fornicator%2FPrevaricator-in-Chief out of the news. Wonder why nobody who thinks with their grey matter actually thinks Clinton had an %22Honorable Presidency%22-Heck%2C even Spotted Al didn%27t want to be connected with his boss%2C and his political past-wonder why%3F Did the conspiracy get him too%3F Or did GW trick him into it%3F%0D%0A%0D%0AJuggernaut
82|3|IF Dems increase numbers in Senate.. |kentuck||00:42:46|07/13/2001|Then Gore and Daschle would make a very strong team...I know few people that voted for Gore that say they would not vote for him again...So he has a very%2C very%2C very strong base to start with... Now if we can just get all the votes counted%2C he should win in a landslide%2C is my hope...Also%2C Repubs are scared to death of Daschle...It seems that once someone votes for a person%2C it is like they have something invested in that person%2C and they are not quick to desert him or her... Just my opinion..
63|2|I read that Lieberman...|jmm||22:18:00|05/18/2001|is looking into running for president in 2004.
14|1|Fresh Faces|RageAgainstTheirMachine||11:23:24|02/10/2001|  While I do believe that Al Gore did win the electoral vote%2C was a vehement supporter of the Vice-President%27s%2C and would be the first to volunteer for his campaign should he run in 2004%2C I think the Democratic Party would best be served with a fresh face for a Presidential Candidate.  I am a very big fan of both Hillary and Bill and more of a fan of President Gore%2C but the Corporate Whore Media and the Clinton haters have made anyone closely associated with the Clintons a liability.  Hey%2C I don%27t believe all the crap the spew about Clinton any more than you do%2C but that is a cold%2C hard fact. %0D%0A  If Gore were to run again%2C he would need to act more like the Gore who gave that patriotic%2C outstanding concession speech and less like the pedantic sigher that he was in the debates.  Gore would need to logically AND emotionally tear down Bush%27s proposals.  One thing many Democrats fail to do is to explain the superior logic behind their pragmatic plans.  %0D%0A  I think Jesse Jackson Jr. would be a tremendous VP candidate for whoever is in the top slot.  The racists who wouldn%27t vote for a Black Candidate don%27t vote for Democrats anyway.  For the top slot%2C like I%27ve said before I like Evan Bye.  He has a JFKesqe kind of image.  I also like John and Bob Kerry.  But I think the Bye-Jackson candidacy would be phenomenal.
16|2|I disagree about Clinton being a liability|mw||18:19:11|02/10/2001|Clinton has kicked republican ass every fight they%27ve picked with him.  %0D%0A%0D%0AEven now%2C I%27m PRAYING that Burton will call Clinton to testify in the %22Rich Pardon Scandal%22. %0D%0A%0D%0AHE WONT%21  You know why%3F  Because Clinton will own the republican committee sunny side up%2C over easy%2C whatever his pleasure.  %0D%0A%0D%0AHillary Clinton%27s greatest power--besides the fact that she%27s a talented woman%2C respected by true independent women--is that she%27s a Clinton%2C and her candidacy will start the mouths frothing in the Rabid Right.  %0D%0A%0D%0AAnd when their mouths froth at Clinton%2C they lose.  Every time.%0D%0A%0D%0A
17|3|agree|kali||19:32:27|02/10/2001|I read some entries on the freepers board that said %22we have to destroy this woman at all costs%22  they are very afraid%2C and they should be....
19|3|Clinton benefits but not the Dems|RageAgainstTheirMachine||18:58:13|02/11/2001|Listen I like Bill Clinton%2C and he sure can nail the Reps to the floor%2C like he has countless times . . . BUT it is Clinton that gets their base voting . . . it is the Clinton haters who brought us the %22Republican Revolution%22 . . . it is the Clinton haters who made sure Al Gore did not win in a landslide %28and thus allow Bush to steal the election%29.  The Clinton scandals have cost the Democratic Party a lot %28Congressional Seats%2C Governorships%2C Respect%29.  Our party needs a fresh%2C scandal-free leader.
28|4|Not the Clintons|JJ||22:48:48|03/05/2001|These scandals were not about Clinton%2C it could have been the Gore scandals%2C or the Kerry scandals%2C or the Gephart scandals. No matter which Democrat won in 1992 the GOP would have manuactured scandals to discredit them. The Republicans have to make the issue %22character%22%2C because if the debate is honest and on the real issues they will lose every time and they know this. That is why they phoney up charges and keep throwing mud until something sticks. NO ONE could stand up to %2475%2C000%2C000 and eight years of investigation with the so called %22liberal Media%22 spreading every lie and allegation as if it were a fact. Give me those resources and I could get the public to believe GWBush was a two headed mule from Mars. I think what is amazing is that the only thing they got on Clinton was a hummer. Think about what Clinton was able to do in spite of the constant Republican smear campaign%2C and imagine what he could have done if they would have met him half way. That is why they hate Clinton%2C they fear him. They fear any Democrat that has national prominence. We saw it in the last election%2C Gore was too good to beat so they made him into a liar%2C and the public bought it because it was subtle and constant%2C like background noise. Everywhere you turned there was a talking head repeating the lie %22Gore can%27t be trusted%22 few people stopped to think%2C %22Hey%2C the facts don%27t fit the story%22 because the facts weren%27t available to most people%2C the people who owned the networks wanted Bush%2C thats why almost no one heard about Bush being missing from the Air National Guard for a year. But everyone heard the %22invented the internet%22 lie over and over and over. That is why they bought the networks%2C that is why they allow radio stations to be bought up by giant companies in violation of FCC regulations%2C to spread the lies and prevent the truth from being heard. %28I gotta quit drinking coffee%29 Can you tell I%27m a little angry.
30|3|confused|tootall||01:44:32|03/16/2001|I%27m as mad as the next guy about the results of the election%2C but explain to me how you can say that Clinton %22kicked Republican Ass%22.%0D%0A%0D%0ABush is President%2C The House is Republican%2C the Senate is Republican%2C the majority of Governors are Republican and the mess he created won%27t die and it%27s hurting Hillary.%0D%0A%0D%0AAs hared as I try%2C I just can%27t hang on to the idea that he did anything more than stay in office for 8 years.%0D%0A%0D%0AAm I missing something%3F
15|1|Hillary. I know%2C I know%2C but...|Ferretherder||17:49:30|02/10/2001|Yes%2C there is the %27liability%27 of the Clinton image that a thousand and one Bill and Hillary haters have spewed now till the average Joe has ceased to question its legitimacy%2C but I swear that every woman without her head up her husbands ass would vote for her. I think she is a person of REAL compassion and about as no-nonsense and level-headed as they come....and I think the shrub wuold fall apart trying to debate a woman who could look him straight in the eye and explain%2C very matter-of-factly%2Cwhy his proposals suck shit thruogh a garden hose.
20|2|Lieberman will be Gore%27s running mate in 2004%21|Crewleader||06:57:44|02/13/2001|Lieberman stands out to be Gore%27s running mate in 2004.%0D%0AHe%27s infront of the camaras now with every move Bush makes%2Cspeaks out and makes his call.%0D%0AHe%27s the eyes and ears for Gore on every move that%27s being made in the political arena now.%0D%0ATogether they will be fighting for the rights of the majority of the people that have been left behind in 2000%21%0D%0APeople will be backing the duo in 2004 like you never seen before%2C so this sort of election in 2000 will never happen again. America will heal with the leaders that should of been  elected then.Giving back justice to the  people their right to vote and it will be the beginning of eight year term of good economics and prosperity for all%21%21%21
64|2|thought you should see this hehehe|kadiiya||18:24:05|05/19/2001|http%3A%2F%2Fgeocities.com%2Fkadiiya%2Fsa.html%0D%0A%0D%0A%0D%0Aps. i%27m one of the clinton haters%0D%0A
71|2|Didn%27t she promise to serve NY for 6 years%3F|Joseph Mariani||18:56:00|06/05/2001|Yeah%2C  Hillary%27s REAL popular. Great public persona. Would really carry a single state outside of the northeast. Right.%0D%0A%0D%0ANothing personal%2C some of her views are great%2C but it really troubles me that there are Americans and Democrats that would be comfortable with the prospects of only having Presidents with the last names of Bush or Clinton for two decades.%0D%0A%0D%0AAfter the Gore debacle%2C the nation and our party need a fresh start. Too much baggage...%0D%0A%0D%0A%0D%0A%2A%2A%2A%0D%0A%22To those who have called our goals unrealistic%2C I say%3A No. I don%27t call these goals unrealistic. I call them common sense. I call them Democratic. I call them American.%22 -Bill Bradley
26|1|Dump Gore into the Boston Harbor|RFal||16:03:21|03/01/2001|I%27m sorry.. Gore lost despite being the vice president to a two-term president and in a good economy.%0D%0A%0D%0AGore will not defeat Bush with Bush as the incumbant.%0D%0A%0D%0AWhat we need is a new voice on the scene%2C not Gore nor Lieberman.%0D%0A%0D%0AHeck%2C Lieberman was a horrible choice for Vice President. Gore should have picked Edwards to carry a bit of the South.
27|2|Your wrong%21|Crewleader||20:21:36|03/01/2001|Enough said%21%0D%0A%0D%0AGORE%2FLIEBERMAN RE-ELECT IN 2004%21
48|2|Edwards|Clarion||19:38:50|05/09/2001|Bush%27s chances in 2004 depend on how much he screws up %28I%27m betting on a lot%29.%0D%0A%0D%0AJohn Edwards%2C despite being the sexiest politician alive%2C would not be a good running mate because he has essentially the same views and public image as Gore.%0D%0A%0D%0ALook for Johnny to give the top spot a try in 2004.%0D%0A%0D%0A
29|1|We need to worry about 2008|JJ||23:05:42|03/05/2001|After Gore wins in 2004%2C the Republicans will say he can%27t run in 2008 because he has already been elected twice. Just you wait%2C I bet they try it. One thing you have to give them credit for%2C they have a lot of nerve.%0D%0A%0D%0AU.S. Constitution%3A Twenty-Second Amendment %0D%0A%0D%0ASection 1. No person shall be elected to the office of the President more than twice%2C and no person who has held the office of President%2C or acted as President%2C for more than two years of a term to which some other person was elected President shall be elected to the office of the President more than once. %0D%0Ahttp%3A%2F%2Fcaselaw.lp.findlaw.com%2Fdata%2Fconstitution%2Famendment22%2F
31|1|honestly%2C im not a big gore fan....|johnny_red||04:22:37|03/16/2001|i have to take him to task over his censorship issues.%0D%0A%0D%0Ai understand being anti violence. i believe that we live in a culture that glorifies and perpetrates violence%2C and i believe that is wrong.%0D%0A%0D%0Ahowever%2C i do not believe that gives tipper gore the right to jump up and down on other peoples%27 artistic expressions%2C nor do i believe that gives him the right to litigate artistic expression %28http%3A%2F%2Fwww.wsws.org%2Farticles%2F2000%2Fsep2000%2Fcens-s20.shtml%29%0D%0A%0D%0Ahip hop music and gangster rap are both symptoms of the violent sickness which pervades our society. rap musicians are artists%2C and as such they describe the nature of the world in which they live. %28http%3A%2F%2Fwww.daveyd.com%2Ffnvwoodstock.html%29%0D%0A%0D%0Aand in reality%2C anyone familiar with hip hop music knows that there are obvious messages in the music that discuss the violence in black communities as the problem that it is.%0D%0A%0D%0Ai strongly disagree with the official scapegoating of the only active poetic expression in our country%2C as well as the most socially responsible. %28if you need a primer on what i mean by socially responsible music%2C check out the roots%2C biggie smalls%2C tupac%2C gang starr%29%0D%0A%0D%0Aso i know this is going to get me ostracized here%2C but i cant in good conscience vote for gore. %0D%0A%0D%0A%3D-%3D-%3D-%3D-%3D-%3D-%3D-%3D-%3D-%3D-%3D-%3D-%3D-%3D--%3D-%3D-%3D-%3D-%3D-%3D-%3D-%3D-%3D-%3D-%3D%3D%3D-%3D-%3D-%3D-%3D-%3D-%0D%0A%0D%0Aoffer me solutions%2C offer me alternatives and i decline.%0D%0A%0D%0A-REM%2C its the end of the world as we know it.
32|2|A valid point.|DarkNite||01:07:26|03/17/2001|%3C%3Ci strongly disagree with the official scapegoating of the only active poetic expression in our country%2C as well as the most socially responsible. %28if you need a primer on what i mean by socially responsible music%2C check out the roots%2C biggie smalls%2C tupac%2C gang starr%29%0D%0A%0D%0Aso i know this is going to get me ostracized here%2C but i cant in good conscience vote for gore.%3E%3E%0D%0A%0D%0AAdmittedly%2C this is a problem. I almost didn%27t vote for Gore myself because of that.  %28Came around eventually.%29  But all things considered%2C at least Gore wouldn%27t shove religion down your throat%2C would%27ve kept the peace negotiations going in the Koreas%2C wouldn%27t have picked someone like John %22Crisco is my friend%22 Ashcroft to be attorney general%2C and kept the great economy going instead of pushing an insane tax giveaway for the wealthy. On top of that%2C he actually cares about the working class%2C and their issues. Finally%2C he has the best shot at taking back the White House IMO. I%27ll take him over the Shrub any day of the week.%0D%0A%0D%0A-DarkNite-%0D%0A%0D%0A%22It%27s St. Patricks Day%2C make sure George can%27t find the liquor%21%22%0D%0A%0D%0A
33|3|Hillary in 2004|IndianaGreen||11:30:15|03/17/2001|for no other reason that it will give fits to the repubs.%0D%0A%0D%0ASeriously%2C I honestly think that elections are a thing of the past%2C the rightwing will see to it%21
34|1|%22Who will be Gore%27s running mate in 2004%3F%22|Rage||16:11:28|03/19/2001|Albert Gore will not run in 2004. Look for the only TRUE democrat to run.... RALPH NADER %21%21%21%21%0D%0AThis is the only person whom can %22Take Back%22 my hi-jacked %0D%0AParty
35|2|Nader is no Democrat%21|Crewleader||16:22:53|03/19/2001|Al Gore in 04%21%0D%0A%3A-%29
43|3|Nader%3F%3F|ronnykmarshall||13:21:40|04/24/2001|If Nader were the on the Democratic ticket in %2704%2C I%27ll move to Mexico.
80|4|%3F|Joseph Mariani||11:59:35|06/20/2001|why%3F%0D%0A%0D%0A%2A%2A%2A%0D%0A%22To those who have called our goals unrealistic%2C I say%3A No. I don%27t call these goals unrealistic. I call them common sense. I call them Democratic. I call them American.%22 -Bill Bradley
36|2|RAGE|RageAgainstTheirMachine||18:02:40|03/19/2001|RAGE IS NOT ME
37|2|ralph%27s got good ideas but...|johnny_red||13:00:15|03/20/2001|he%27s not really a leader. we need someone at least slightly charismatic%2C and while that isnt exactly gore%27s strongpoint eitherr%2C he%27s at least a little more lively than old ralph...%0D%0A%0D%0Ai think if gore gets his shit together and has some serious reevaluation of the world and his place in it%2C he could be an excellent president.%0D%0A%0D%0Abut id rather vote for Jesse Jr.%0D%0A%0D%0A%5E%5E%5E%5E%5E%5E%5E%5E%5E%5E%5E%5E%5E%5E%5E%5E%5E%5E%5E%5E%5E%5E%5E%5E%5E%5E%5E%5E%5E%5E%5E%5E%5E%5E%5E%5E%5E%5E%5E%5E%5E%5E%5E%5E%5E%5E%5E%5E%5E%5E%5E%5E%5E%0D%0Aoffer me solutions%2C offer me alternatives and i decline.%0D%0A%0D%0A-REM%2C its the end of the world as we know it.
41|3|cool|mandy1||11:41:41|04/15/2001|read my post on running mate.  It%27s right below. You are right.
38|1|President in 2004|vaco48||20:43:58|03/31/2001|I think that John Edwards of N.C. will be in there somewhere.  I would love to see Bill or Hillary run as VP.  I like Al and Tipper%2C but I think they have had enough.  They are too nice to be crapped on again.
44|2|Edwards%3F%3F%3F|ronnykmarshall||13:24:25|04/24/2001|I think you%27re right about Al and Tipper.  They are probably over the whole thing at this point.  Senator Edwards does interest me.  Watch the media frenzy over him if Gore drops out for 2004.
40|1|running mate|mandy1||11:19:59|04/15/2001|My first choice would be Representative Jesse Jackson%2C Jr.  I think his doctorate in jurisprudence is important for watching over the new legal climate we have.  Secondly%2C I think maybe Senator John Kerry of Mass or Senator Paul Wellstone  of MN%2C with his watchful eye on where these corporations run with things would be a good idea. Representative Corrine Brown%2C with her doctorate and real work experience in education would be a good choice if the country really wants to improve education and they aren%27t just doing a rhetoric thing.   I think we are going to have to move a little more left to get this thing done. I am not convinced centrist bi-partisan spirit is worth it.  If you give the GOP an inch%2C they take a mile.  I have heard arguments that Senator John Edwards of NC should run but I really think he is way too conservative and just gives in too much to the GOP.  
45|2|2004 Combos|Honkee12||09:54:00|04/25/2001|Although I like Wellstone I don%27t think that he would bring much to a ticket that has a great chance to reclaim moderate voters that have already been completely alienated by Dubya.  With that in mind%2C John Kerrey%2FJohn Edwards 2004.  Then in 2012 watch out for Mark Warner from VA%2C he is a great campaigner and is definitely one to watch.
78|2|Why GORE will win ...|Democrat 4 Life||11:23:04|06/16/2001|It seems more and more likely that Al Gore will run for president in 2004. It should be no problem for him to win because after 4 years of hell with shrub as president Gore will win by even more than he did in %2700.
42|1|I still fantasize about...|Not_over_it||11:46:57|04/15/2001|A Gore%2FBradley ticket.  Anybody who doesn%27t know much about Bradley should read John McPhee%27s biography on him %22A Sense of Where You Are.%22  It%27s a quick read%2C and you will come away from it amazed and impressed with this man.%0D%0A%0D%0AJust for fun%2C let%27s throw in my sister%27s theory on why Bradley should be Pres or VP%3A  He%27s very tall.  She thinks height is a wonderful intimidation tool%2C and what fun it will be to watch him look down on %28literally%29 his political enemies.  Yes%2C she was joking%2C but I chuckle every time I picture him towering over that little nazi DeLay.
72|2|If they don%27t kill each other...|Joseph Mariani||19:00:49|06/05/2001|The two of them never really got along%2C even in the Senate...couldn%27t see that...%0D%0A%0D%0A...but I share half o%27 yer fantasy.... %3A%29%0D%0A%0D%0A%2A%2A%2A%0D%0A%22To those who have called our goals unrealistic%2C I say%3A No. I don%27t call these goals unrealistic. I call them common sense. I call them Democratic. I call them American.%22 -Bill Bradley
46|1|Johnny Edwards|Honkee12||09:27:44|05/08/2001|The combination of Gore and a southern senator seems to me much like the successful Clinton Gore combination of 1992.  Edwards is indeed a moderate but the fact remains that it will be difficult to elect a true pinko.  Edwards is young energetic and would be a great candidate for 2012%2C he reminds me a lot of Clinton.  Also I think Mark Warner from Virginia will be a force to be reckoned with for the Democrats nationally in 2012 or 2008.  Warner is bringing unprecedented new life to the dems here in VA.
49|1|Gore%27s running mate|joe sinkovic||22:37:23|05/09/2001|[font size="1" color="#FF0000"]LAST EDITED ON May-09-01 AT 10:48 PM (EST)[/font][p]What has happened to Joe Kennedy%3F I saw him rip Dan Quale a new a%2A%2Ahole during a debate a few years ago. That man is super sharp.
50|1|saw  him in orlando%21%21%21|buckfush||23:34:12|05/10/2001| says he is through with politics%2C  and he has not gained 40 pounds%2C he has only gained 10. the guy was great%2C he stayed around for a few hours and signed autographs%2C talked%2C ate some food with all the folks. he had just spoken at an event in the orl. convention ctr. and you will be happy to know that there were several gore people outside rallying for him.
51|2|All reports say%2C it%27s too soon to say...........|Crewleader||05:50:46|05/11/2001|%0D%0A%0D%0A if Gore is running and he slipped in the backway and talk to no-one but the travel conference%2C and left for California.%0D%0A%0D%0AAs Gore says it%2C giving it time after this past election%2C no comments of Bush%27s 100 days........give him time%21%3B-%29%0D%0A%0D%0A%0D%0A%0D%0A%0D%0A%0D%0A%0D%0A%0D%0ACrewleader%0D%0A%22Democratic Solidarity%22
60|3|Gore|mjlover11||16:59:20|05/15/2001|Right on Crewleader. You reported the same things we heard from the media about Al%27s visit to Orlando %3A%29
59|2|RE%3A Saw him in Orlando|mjlover11||16:57:39|05/15/2001|Through with politics%3F%3F He never said that. And were you a guest at the convention%3F Because he never spoke or mingled with people outside and left on a plane to Cali right after.%0D%0A%0D%0AI%27m confused. Explain yourself %3B-%29 
52|1|Choosing Candidates|Slow_Simmer||16:26:24|05/11/2001|I%27d like to see Gore run in %2704 with Boxer%2C or Bayh%2C if I had to choose...but even more important to me is some kind of way to figure out%2C in an organized fashion%2C who good people to run would be.%0D%0A%0D%0AI don%27t agree with the poster who thought Gore should have won it just because he was the incumbent Vice President%2C and doesn%27t deserve it if he couldn%27t win then.  Given the reports of problems in Tennessee and Florida%2C I don%27t know if any Democrat could have won.%0D%0A%0D%0AI wonder if he%27d look at Oregon%27s governor John Kitzhaber%2C who is required to retire due to term limits%2C and whose background as an MD give him some real-life experience that rounds out his political experience.  
53|2|I agree about Tenn. and Florida............|Crewleader||17:02:17|05/11/2001|%0D%0A.........being won by a Democrat%2C something corrupt happen%21%0D%0A%0D%0AWelcome to the DU Slow_Simmer.......this is the place to vent and give your two cents%21 %0D%0A%0D%0A%0D%0A%0D%0A%0D%0A%0D%0A%0D%0A%0D%0A%0D%0A%0D%0ACrewleader%0D%0A%22Democratic Solidarity%22
54|2|I%27ve said it before|rook_thomas||17:30:31|05/11/2001|But I%27ll say it again- Gore is not our best choice to win in %2704. We%27ve got to move on from %2700 if we%27re going to win in %2702 and %2704. %0D%0A%0D%0AGore is a brand that people are already familiar with- and%2C thanks to the savage treatment he got from the media%2C the image that they%27re stuck with is that Gore is a capricious exaggerator and a bore. On top of that%2C the negativity that people feel because of the Bush election theft doesn%27t mean that invoking it again will cause them to vote for Gore. The base is motivated to vote- but we%27ve got to find a candidate who can resoundingly defeat a sitting president- and Gore barely sqeaked by Bush when neither was in office.%0D%0A%0D%0AIt bothers me too. I lived on %24100 a week%2C slept in an unfinished office full of pumice dust to guard voter info%2C stood in the rain to register voters%2C canvassed for hours at a time in Las Vegas in the summer- all to get Gore elected. I think he%27d be a phenomenal president. I think that he IS the rightfully elected president. But I%27m a pragmatist when it comes to what it takes to win an election- and I don%27t honestly think that Gore can do it in %2704. %0D%0A%0D%0AKeep the images in your mind- the House and Senate in %2702%2C and the White House in %2704. And imagine the expression in Bush%27s face as he concede on Election Night 2004. 
55|3|Nice thought..............|Crewleader||18:42:55|05/11/2001|%0D%0A%0D%0A......but I hope for Gore......he%27s going to heal this nation%21%0D%0A%0D%0A%0D%0A%0D%0A%0D%0A%0D%0A%0D%0A%0D%0A%0D%0A%0D%0A%0D%0ACrewleader%0D%0A%22Democratic Solidarity%22
56|3|I Agree with every point.............|Honkee12||09:11:02|05/12/2001|I too worked tirelessly for little or no pay for Al Gore and I think that he would be an amazing President but I liken the 2004 election to that of 1956 when the Democrats ran Adlai Stevenson against Eisenhower again and lost miserably.  Yes Ike was popular but the public gets tired of the same faces%2C that is just the nature of the populace.  Let%27s not forget that Gore should truly be President but let%27s also not forget that this doesn%27t entitle him to the 2004 nomination. The Democrats need new blood and another Gore%2FLieberman ticket is not going to provide that.
57|4|To each%27s own.............|Crewleader||10:43:08|05/12/2001|  %0D%0A%0D%0A%0D%0A%0D%0A     if he is nominated he%27s got my vote%21In the meantime Al Gore has my support to take his time off before he announces he%27s running for president in 2004%21%0D%0A%0D%0AIf he chooses not to %2Cwell it would greatly disappoint alot of Americans including myself but we would honor him anyway%21%0D%0A%0D%0AWhich ever way it goes Al Gore has  my support with a lot of other Americans. We just know he will be the greatest President this country will ever have.%0D%0A%0D%0AHe%27s a man with heart who loves his family and country and will serve the American people with that honor and respect not ever waviering anybody%27s rights%21%0D%0A%0D%0AAl Gore%2C we are here working towards 2002%2Cso we can get rid of as many republicans as we can.........we are getting stronger and more determined everyday so we will conquer with Democrats and have your house ready in 2004%21 %0D%0A%0D%0A%0D%0A%0D%0A%0D%0A%0D%0A%0D%0A%0D%0A%0D%0ACrewleader%0D%0A%22Democratic Solidarity%22
58|5|Gore The Man|joanski0||11:29:08|05/14/2001|Gore will get my vote.  As much as I like Joe Lieberman%2C I really didn%27t think he did very well against Cheney in the debate.  He%27s too nice.  If I can%27t have Gore%2C then I want John Kerry.%0D%0A%0D%0AI thought I heard on the TV a couple of weeks ago%2C that Joe Kennedy was considering running for the Governor of Massachusetts.  I may be wrong.  
61|6|Gore|dusty64||21:49:33|05/16/2001|Time for Al Gore to speak out%0D%0A      %0D%0AMay 14%2C 2001%0D%0AWeb posted at%3A 10%3A54 AM EDT %281454 GMT%29%0D%0A%0D%0A%0D%0ABy Bill Press%0D%0ATribune Media Services%0D%0A%0D%0AWASHINGTON %28Tribune Media Services%29 -- OK. So we know how the first 100 days went for George W. Bush. The inside joke is he told Dick Cheney he%27s glad to have a full year under his belt. %0D%0A%0D%0ABut how about the guy who really won the election%3F How were the first 100 days for Al Gore%3F %0D%0A%0D%0ATo tell the truth%2C it%27s hard to know because nobody knows where he is or what he%27s up to. Aside from a handful of students at Columbia and Middle Tennessee State University%2C nobody%27s seen or heard from Al Gore since he was forced to sit on the platform and watch the man he beat in the popular vote sworn in as president. %0D%0A%0D%0ANo wonder Al Gore went into hiding for a while. Who wouldn%27t have%2C after that frustrating finale%3F It was good for him to take a break%2C good for the country -- and more than fair for him to give George Bush an open field without constant sniping from the sidelines by his former opponent. At least for a short period of time. %0D%0A%0D%0ABut now%27s the time for Al Gore to come out of hiding. Bush%27s 100-day no-fire zone has come and gone. He%27s fair game again. Nobody%27s going to call Gore a sore loser for criticizing the actions and policies of the new administration from now on. As former vice president%2C that%27s his job. As leader of the Democratic party%2C that%27s his duty. Now%27s the time for him to speak out. %0D%0A%0D%0AThere%27s only one problem%3A Al Gore%27s not ready. As I found out this week%2C first hand. %0D%0A%0D%0AWhen not teaching in New York or Tennessee%2C Gore spends his time these days in his transition office%3A a temporary%2C run down%2C bare bones space over a video store in downtown Arlington%2C Virginia%2C that resembles a campaign headquarters more than the office of a former vice president of the United States. It%27s a long way from 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue. Upon my arrival%2C a staff member even apologized%3A %22Remember%2C it%27s not really his office. He rarely comes here.%22 %0D%0A%0D%0AIf the surroundings were depressing%2C Gore was anything but. He was relaxed%2C comfortable%2C quick with a big smile and funny line. Over a cup of coffee%2C he told me how much he loved teaching%3B how much he was enjoying his paid public speaking engagements%3B and what fun he and Tipper were having%2C working with several student researchers%2C writing a book about family. He glowed with pride%2C telling of babysitting for grandson Wyatt the weekend before. And yes%2C off the record%2C he expressed his disappointment and disagreement with certain actions of the Bush administration -- some of which he fears will have serious%2C long-term consequences. %0D%0A%0D%0AEven when pressed%2C however%2C Gore said he was not yet ready to go public. And he explained why%3A %22After 25 years in public service%2C I%27m enjoying making a contribution in other ways%3A teaching and writing. Whether I%27m ever a candidate again or not%2C I will reenter the public arena someday. But I won%27t make a decision until I%27ve given it enough distance to know the time is right.%22 %0D%0A%0D%0ABut%2C surely%2C I argued%2C Bush had done wrong on some issues that were dear to Gore%27s heart. How could he remain silent when Bush junked the Kyoto treaty%2C or refused to regulate CO2%2C or announced plans to destroy the Alaskan wilderness%3F He%27s Mr. Environment. Why didn%27t he at least speak out on Earth Day%3F %0D%0A%0D%0AGore held firm. %22No one would be surprised by what I think about what he%27s done in regard to global warming%2C or the economy%2C%22 he assured me%2C %22but I%27ve made a decision that now is not yet the time to speak out.%22 %0D%0A%0D%0AYou have to respect Gore%27s decision. No one can be forced to take on a role he doesn%27t feel in his gut. But%2C at the same time%2C you have to regret it. Because%2C in Gore%27s silence%2C there%27s no other voice in the Democratic party who is speaking%2C or can speak%2C with national authority. Bill Clinton can%27t%2C yet. Think Marc Rich. Tom Daschle and Dick Gephardt are superb leaders%2C but their influence doesn%27t go far beyond Capitol Hill. Strong Democratic senators like John Kerry%2C Joe Lieberman%2C John Edwards%2C Joe Biden and Evan Bayh are too busy running for president themselves. %0D%0A%0D%0AIt%27s clear that%2C as its former standard bearer%2C the man to lead the party and speak out on the issues -- is Al Gore. It%27s also clear there%27s a risk for him to wait much longer. %0D%0A%0D%0AIf Al Gore doesn%27t step up to the plate soon%2C someone else will. Then%2C when Gore finally does speak out%2C no one will be listening. %0D%0A%0D%0A
62|7|Thanks|joanski0||07:29:48|05/17/2001|Thanks for the good post%2C Dusty.  It%27s not what I wanted to hear %28Gore%27s not ready to come out yet%29%2C but hopefully he%27ll be ready soon.
65|1|John Kerry|ludwigb||17:50:13|05/25/2001|%0D%0AFrom what I%27ve seen and read%2C he is the most articulate%2C compelling Democrat out there%2C and had hoped Gore would pick him in 2000.  He%27s my ideal canidate %28so far%29 for 2004.  He%27s tall and presidential looking.  He%27s a decorated war hero.  He%27s articulate and passionate and knowledgeable about the most important issues--like environmental and foriegn policy issues.  He has the expirience to be president %28unlike Edwards%2C although he is probably the 2nd best pick from what I%27ve seen%29.  The only problem with him is that he comes from a rich family and he%27s Skull and Bones.  But politics is a national business now--it%27s not like John Edwards would have been able to carry North Carolina for Gore.  Kerry is simply a compelling man who would actually beat Dick Cheney in a debate.%0D%0AHere%27s a memo by Josh Marshall that articulates some of these points...%0D%0Ahttp%3A%2F%2Fwww.salon.com%2Fpolitics%2Ffeature%2F2000%2F07%2F20%2Fkerry%2Findex.html    %0D%0AAlthough I agree with Liebermann about 90%25 of the time on policy%2C but I still find him a little slimy and I find his moralism annoying and disturbing%2C so I won%27t support him for president in 2004.  I%27ll vote for the other guy.  
81|2|Re%3A John Kerry|wicket||13:28:33|06/20/2001|I hope so too%2C I really like this guy.  I still think that things would have been different had Gore picked him instead of Lieberman.  Joe just wasn%27t liberal enough for me.
69|1|Al Gore%2C Baby%21|w4rma||03:45:16|05/26/2001|[font size="1" color="#FF0000"]LAST EDITED ON May-26-01 AT 04:15 AM (EST)[/font][p]The guy who will win this thing%2C by a margin too large to steal in 2004%2C is Al Gore.  Yeah%2C other folks should be able to pull a win off too%2C but Al Gore is the guy who will motivate Democrats to come to the polls.  Revenge%2C is a pretty darn good motivator%2C ya know%3F  %2Agrins%2A%0D%0A%0D%0AAs for the VP.  Contrary to the media theories about Lieberman positioning himself to run for president%2C my opinion is that he is gearing up to run with Al Gore as Vice President.%0D%0A%0D%0AFor all of us who want to set the history books right about the stolen election%2C an Al Gore run would be the only way to do it.  Also%2C my belief about Al Gore is his speech at the DNC was from the heart and was what he truly believes.  However%2C I place most of the blame directly on Ralph Nader for the lack of enthusiasm that the media portrayed as part of its story.  Ralph Nader ran a campaign that only helped Bush%27s.  Bush was trying to look like a Democrat while Al Gore was trying to expose Bush%27s stances for what they truely are%3A dishonest.  Nader%27s lie about the two parties being the same one helped keep Gore from being able to show his differences from Bush.%0D%0A%0D%0AAnd you know what really ticks me off about Nader%3F  When Bush%27s campaign played commercials in various states on behalf of Nader%2C Nader didn%27t denounce the %2Abasically%2A free corporate money that he was getting from the Repugs.  Nader%27s credibility is not good.  I don%27t trust the guy.  %28Don%27t forget that Nader said during the campaign that it wouldn%27t be a problem if if Bush appointed one of his right-wing idelogues to the Supreme Court%2C because abortion rights would just reset back to the states%2C then.%29%0D%0A%0D%0AAnyway%2C Gore%2FLieberman.  Same signs.  Same stances as the ones he layed out during the DNC.  He could even run on the same tax cuts that he ran on before %28and try to replace Bush%27s retro tax cut with his progressive one%29 along with paying down the %28even bigger%29 national debt.  By then we should be just about to run short of funds heading into deficits due to Bush%27s backloaded tax cut.%0D%0A%0D%0AHeck%2C lets not win by a margin too large to steal.  Lets win 2004 by a %2Alandslide%2A%21%0D%0A%0D%0A-Rick%0D%0Ahttp%3A%2F%2Fwww.rickswarehouse.com%2F
70|2|Yes%2C indeed|joanski0||10:27:26|05/26/2001|And I already have my %22Gore in 04%22 T-shirt.  Whoo Hoo%21  I sure hope he comes out soon.  I think this would be a really good time.
73|1|re Gore|Ohiogreen||12:56:56|06/08/2001|I think Hillary%27s got it Kali.. the presidential nomination%0D%0Amany Dems are part of GOP pharmaceutical welfare %28free prescription drugs%29%0D%0A%0D%0Aplease go to Bexley to Taft mansion%0D%0Ahttp%3A%2F%2Fwww.otse.org%0D%0APlease put Ohio among the 43 with no executions%0D%0Aplanned%2C not the 7 states planning murder%0D%0AGOD You have twice saved Jay%27s life%2C once 1 hour%0D%0Abefore death%2C once with needles in his arms.%0D%0AWe ask You again Abba%0D%0APETITION RE SHELL TEXACO INVOLVEMENT IN MURDER%0D%0AOF NIGERIAN ANTI OIL ACTIVIST SARO-WIWA%0D%0Ahttp%3A%2F%2Fwww.petitiononline.com%2Fnigeria%2Fpetition.html%0D%0A%0D%0ASCHIZOPHRENIC%0D%0AJAY SCOTT%0D%0AA new execution date has been set for Clevelander Jay Scott%2C%0D%0Awho has been in jail for 20 years. Last month%2C Jay Scott had%0D%0Aexecution needles in his arms when a 6th Circuit judge was able%0D%0Ato gain a stay. A month before Jay came within 54 minutes of%0D%0Adying. This is the 3rd time that the Ohio %28R%29 Attorney General%0D%0ABetty Montgomery has achieved an execution date. Please%0D%0Aask Governor.Taft%40d... das.state.oh.us to grant clemency.%0D%0APlease ask the Ohio legislature to outlaw executions.%0D%0Ahttp%3A%2F%2Fwww.state.oh.us %28Illinois%2C Maryland in declaring moratoriums%0D%0Aare now among the 43 states not premeditating state sanctioned%0D%0Amurder this year.%29%0D%0Ahttp%3A%2F%2Fwww.smu.edu%2F%7Edeathpen%0D%0A%0D%0AFather Mother God we thank you for overriding all%0D%0Aopposition to clemency for Jay Scott and all on death row.%0D%0A2 MEXICAN CITIZENS .. THEIR EXECUTION DATES SET%0D%0AMany countries believe that the U.S. is violating%0D%0Ainternational law not only in executing but in%0D%0Aexecuting citizens of other countries. Please ask President Vincente Fox of Mexico%0D%0Athrough the Mexican embassy to use his power%0D%0Ato cancel these executions by the federal govt%0D%0Aand Edmonton%2C AG of Oklahoma%0D%0Ahttp%3A%2F%2Fwww.embassy.org%0D%0ABOYCOTT%0D%0AInternational abolitionists are boycotting the states which%0D%0Aare involved in execution%2C as well as harming corporations in those%0D%0Astates. These are Texas%2C 1st in numbers%2C%0D%0AOklahoma%2C 1st per capita %28where the Edmonton%2C Keating%2C Gilchrist%0D%0Amachine has accounted%2C according to the FBI%2C to the state murder%0D%0Aof 11 innocents%29%2C Utah%2C whose senator Orrin Hatch has filled%0D%0Athe federal benches with hanging judges%2C South Carolina %28one of%0D%0Athe 8 states with the most racist execution patterns%2C Alabama %28another%0D%0Aof the 8 states with the most racist execution patterns%2C%0D%0AIndiana %28chosen by the federal govt as the potential site%0D%0Aof executions because of the population%29%2C Ohio%2C whose police%0D%0Adepts. in Columbus and Cincinnati are under federal investigation%0D%0Afor racism. The GOP under Abraham Lincoln was the anti slavery%0D%0Aparty. Now it has become the party of racist executions.%0D%0AOHIO%3A Boycott Wendy%27s%2C%0D%0Ahttp%3A%2F%2Fwww.wendys.com %28let them know%29 BP Amoco %28which dominates the state%29%2C Nationwide%0D%0AFirst Energy%2C Dominion East Ohio%2C Limited%2C Federated%2C Procter%0D%0Aand Gamble %28whose former board member Dick Cheney has advanced%0D%0Athe interests of big oil%29.%0D%0ATEXAS%3A 1st in number of executions Boycott Exxon Mobil%2C Enron%2C Shell %0D%0ATexaco%0D%0A%0D%0AClear Channel%2C SBC%2C Reliant%2C Dean Foods%2C Supreme Beef%2C Mesa%2C all Texas %0D%0Agas%2C oil%2C beef.%0D%0AAsk Gov Perry to sign bill outlawing execution of the retarded%0D%0Ahttp%3A%2F%2Fwww.state.tx.us%0D%0AOKLAHOMA%3A 1st in executions per capita.. the Keating%2C Edmonton%2C %0D%0AGilchrist machine has accounted for the deaths of 11 innocents says%0D%0Athe FBI.%0D%0ABoycott Kerr McGee%2C Oklahoma gas and oil%2C beef%0D%0Aand pork%3C Mesa Oil%0D%0Ahttp%3A%2F%2Fwww.state.ok.us%0D%0AUTAH%3A Ask LDS church to disavow Senator Hatch%27s filling of the%0D%0Afederal judiciary with hanging judges http%3A%2F%2Fwww.lds.org%0D%0Ahttp%3A%2F%2Fwww.state.ut.us%0D%0AAL%3A One of 8 states with most racist execution patterns%0D%0Ahttp%3A%2F%2Fwww.state.al.us where Senator Shelby left his populist%0D%0Avoters for the corporate GOP%0D%0Ahttp%3A%2F%2Fwww.usdoj.gov http%3A%2F%2Fwww.naacp.org%0D%0ASC%3A One of 8 states with the most racist execution patterns.%0D%0ASenator Thurmond %28as well as Colorado Senator Campbell%29 also%0D%0Aleft their populist majority for the corporate GOP%0D%0AINDIANA%3A It is not accidental that the federal govt has chosen%0D%0A  Indiana as its execution site. Boycott Eli Lilly%2C all Indiana%0D%0Apork%2C oil%2C energy etc%0D%0A%0D%0AEntire Churches which have taken a stand%0D%0Aagainst capital punishment%3A Christian%3A%0D%0AEpiscopalian%2C Lutheran%2C Methodist%2C Mennonite%2C%0D%0AQuaker%2C Catholic%2C Anglican%2C Presbyterian Buddhist Hindu Jain%0D%0Athe Dalai Lama %0D%0A%0D%0A
74|1|Good Choices%3AHarkin%2C Kerry%2C maybe Edwards|dh100||14:38:12|06/08/2001|I don%27t see Lieberman doing another go round.%0D%0A%0D%0AMy own personal choice%2C even with the way the GOP tainted him%2C would be Henry Cisneros.  If the electorate has pretty much left his past pecadillos behind%2C he%27s dynamic%2C smart%2C great on the stump%2C good ideas%2C and he%27d lock the hispanic and minority vote up.  Unfortunately%2C it unlikely to happen.%0D%0A%0D%0A- A nun with a bullwhip and a bottle of gin.
75|1|I love Al Gore%21|nelsonaddison||21:49:02|06/08/2001|I love the man. I love his policies. I%27ll fight for him in 2004. And 2008. Think of how historic it will be to have him elected to the presidency three times%21%0D%0A%0D%0A%22When a man is asked to give a speech%0D%0Athe first thing he must do is decide%0D%0Awhat he%27s going to say.%22 - President%0D%0AGerald Ford%0D%0A%0D%0A%22Jerry played too many %5Bfootball%5D games%0D%0Awithout a helmet.%22 - President Lyndon B.%0D%0AJohnson%0D%0A%0D%0ANels
76|2|I agree with you 100%25 for Al Gore%21|Crewleader||23:46:22|06/08/2001|Thank you for the help down here Nels%21%0D%0A%0D%0AYour the greatest.........O8%29%0D%0A%0D%0A%0D%0ACrewleader%0D%0A%22Democratic Solidarity%22%0D%0A%0D%0Ahttp%3A%2F%2Fwww.americanpolitics.com%2Fflag.gif
77|3|Harry Reid said|joanski0||18:19:26|06/09/2001|A little while ago%2C I was watching CNN with Mark Shields and Bob Novak.  Novak asked Reid %28Senate Democratic Whip%29if he would support Daschle for President. Yes%2C indeed%2C said Reid.  Then Novak asked him if he would support Gore.  Boy%2C did Reid%27s face light up.  He said how he supported Gore in his first bid for President and always supported him.  Said what a good man he was.  How he should take a good%2C long rest -- Presidential campaigns are far too long in his opinion and Gore shouldn%27t get involved this soon.  Then Reid added%2C %22Al Gore is a great public servant%2C and I think he should stay involved%22.%0D%0A%0D%0A
79|2|Re%3A I love Al Gore|Sundance||22:36:39|06/19/2001|Nels%2C I love him too. He%92s a bit conservative for me%2C and he coddles to the moneyed interests%2C but I think that he is doing what he has to do to play the corrupt game in Washington. A game I want cancelled%2C and President Gore has expressed that he does too. Well%2C lets face it. A lot of politicians%2C Republicans and Democrats%2C are tired of this game. Raise money 24%2F7. I believe there are good people in Washington%2C and I think Al Gore might be able to lead them out of this morass. I know he is a leader in the DLC %28and I hate the DLC %96 Republicans with guilt%29%2C but I think he is there to counter the corporate-controlled media. Who needs campaign funds when the cartels own the airwaves %28they actually belong to us%85the people%29 and can package a man like GWB as a candidate while portraying one of the most honest men in American politics as a pathological liar%3F