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boston bean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-30-11 07:21 PM
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I don't think I can stand to watch the POTUS have a great time and laugh tonite
since he has authorized the killing of innocent children today.

Makes me sick.

And don't give me any shit about how Gadaffi isn't any better, just think about that before you even say it.
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The Velveteen Ocelot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-30-11 07:23 PM
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1. I'm sure he personally orders the killing of children.
:sarcasm:
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boston bean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-30-11 07:26 PM
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4. We are part of a group that targeted a home where they knew children lived. is that enough for you.
Who's bombs they were and who tossed them will be forthcoming I am sure.

However, Susan Rice, Obama's guru got this thing going and I'm sure she didn't do it all by her lonesome.
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tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-30-11 07:26 PM
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5. Who okay-ed Gaddafi's son as a target?
I know this is a NATO operation under a UN sanction. Who makes the final say on whether an individual is a target of US bombs?
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AlabamaLibrul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-30-11 07:31 PM
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9. Not only that, but NATO has been saying for days that they're not really on an
assassination mission bombing Gaddafi compounds, homes, etc. just that they're trying to take out some offices and this and that sort of thing.

Can anyone say with a straight face that's still the case?
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mike_c Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-30-11 07:24 PM
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2. don't you think we have a right to defend ourselves from Libya...?
Oh, wait....
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Skidmore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-30-11 07:25 PM
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3. I kinda think you can't stand to watch the President under
any circumstances any time.
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boston bean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-30-11 07:27 PM
Response to Reply #3
6. you think this is a time for joy and laughter. our country just targeted a home
where they knew children lived.
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Tx4obama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-30-11 07:29 PM
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7. It was NATO. Go bitch at them and leave President Obama alone.
I am sick of everyone always blaming President Obama for EVERYTHING!

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lillypaddle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-30-11 07:30 PM
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8. got that right. nt
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tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-30-11 07:35 PM
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14. He has authorized the use of force in Libya. Whether or not
you like that is one thing. Unfortunately, he has partial ownership of it, the good, the bad and the ugly.
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Drale Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-30-11 07:36 PM
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17. +1
It seems that we must have a scapegoat for everything these days and it seems that Obama is an easy target.
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Mimosa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-30-11 07:47 PM
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39. He could have said NO.
History is more objective than fans. It will not be kind about the US imperialism or the OIL WARS.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-30-11 07:54 PM
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50. There is no NATO without us. I'm sick of people unloading responsibility. n/t
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boston bean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-30-11 07:57 PM
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55. They want us to believe Obama knows nothing and has not control over anything.
I can't believe anyone would want our president portrayed that way.

i think it's does him a huge disservice. he is the POTUS afterall.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-30-11 07:59 PM
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60. It's absurd. n/t
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-30-11 07:31 PM
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10. He didn't authorize anything. It was NATO that
ordered the strike.
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boston bean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-30-11 07:33 PM
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11. Could you possibly be that naive? You think the President of the US knew nothing of this?
Edited on Sat Apr-30-11 07:35 PM by boston bean
And are we not a part of NATO?

Remind me again....

You think the president of the US is a bumbling fool. What are you doing on DU?
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-30-11 07:35 PM
Response to Reply #11
15. He is not in charge. Yes, we are part of NATO, but
he is not ordering the strikes.
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boston bean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-30-11 07:37 PM
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20. You think Obama is a bumbling in the dark kind of fool. You should be ashamed. nt
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-30-11 07:38 PM
Response to Reply #20
25. I said nothing about Obama being a fool. You did and
you should be ashamed.
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boston bean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-30-11 07:41 PM
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28. if you think Obama knew nothing of this, you are making him out to be a bumbling fool.
Give the prez more credit.

if he didn't know then that's a whole other ball of wax.

You want to go there?
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-30-11 07:43 PM
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32. I didn't say he knew nothing either.
Edited on Sat Apr-30-11 07:43 PM by Cleita
Why are you putting your thoughts and words in my mouth? I said he didn't order the strikes, NATO did, and somewhere you made up a whole story out of whole cloth that I think he's a bumbling fool.
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boston bean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-30-11 07:47 PM
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37. OK, then you admit Obama was OK with it then....
so he knew something. And the United States the superpower, didn't have any say in this whatsoever? Come on!

Give him more credit, will ya!

He's not some weakling.
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Terra Alta Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-30-11 07:35 PM
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13. it was actually NATO
but the fact that Obama hasn't spoken out against the murder of innocents does bother me.. especially since Obama has two young daughters of his own.
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tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-30-11 07:35 PM
Response to Reply #13
16. And has used cluster bombs on civilians, himself.
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cliffordu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-30-11 07:36 PM
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18. Then don't fucking watch. What are you personally doing to stop the killing
other than complaining here??
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boston bean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-30-11 07:36 PM
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19. I assume I'm doing the same amount as you do with your complaining here. nt
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cliffordu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-30-11 07:38 PM
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23. Well, garsh darn it, thanks for sharing!!!
:hurts:
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boston bean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-30-11 07:43 PM
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31. why your welcome, don't push to hard and give yourself a hemorrhoid.
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young but wise Donating Member (760 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-30-11 07:44 PM
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33. +100
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quinnox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-30-11 07:37 PM
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21. NATO and the US are both responsible
And lets face it, the USA controls the strings ultimately. So making an excuse that it is NATO doesn't really fly IMHO.
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Terra Alta Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-30-11 07:59 PM
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59. Exactly. And Obama could condemn the attack if he wanted to.
His silence speaks volumes.
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-30-11 07:38 PM
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22. btw Why aren't you blaming Ghaddafi?
He knows they are going after him and yet he doesn't remove his family from harm's way. It's like he's using them for shields.
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boston bean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-30-11 07:39 PM
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26. It doesn't matter. We targeted his son's house where we knew children were.
You think we should be just like Gadaffi huh?
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-30-11 07:41 PM
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29. War is a bitch. Children and other innocents are killed in
Edited on Sat Apr-30-11 07:42 PM by Cleita
war. If NATO had stayed out of it, Ghaddafi would have killed and tortured the rebels and their families, so children would have died because we did nothing. Believe me this is a damned if you do or damned if you don't situation.
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boston bean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-30-11 07:42 PM
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30. WE targeted innocents and children. WE DID! nt
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-30-11 07:45 PM
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34. So where did you get that information? How do you
know who was targeted unless you were there with the generals making the orders? Maybe they didn't know he had his family there as human shields.
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boston bean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-30-11 07:49 PM
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43. It was the sons house, where I am sure they knew he had children living there.
Doesn't take rocket science.

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Tx4obama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-30-11 07:52 PM
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48. And the majority of Gaddafi's sons are murderers, ordering troops to kill civilians....

I think it is unPatriotic and unAmerican to root for the enemy.

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boston bean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-30-11 07:55 PM
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52. And the children. What say you of the blown up children?
You think it's ok to bomb a house where you know children live?

I thought Americans were a little better than that.

Talk about unAmerican!
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MineralMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-30-11 07:59 PM
Response to Reply #52
61. What kind of father who knows he is a target keeps his
children near him? I certainly wouldn't do that. Anyone meeting with Muammar is a target. You send the children away somewhere where they will not be near you.

Uff da!
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boston bean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-30-11 08:01 PM
Response to Reply #61
65. Uff da! to you to. We killed innocents and innocent children today
and you want me to only hold outrage for Gadaffi.

Give me a break MinMan.

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MineralMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-30-11 08:06 PM
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71. Oh, dear. I don't want you to do anything, Ms. Bean.
I'm pretty sure you shouldn't watch the dinner, though, since I would want you to be ill. You can freely hold outrage for whomever you wish. I may respond to that if you post it on DU, or I may not. It just depends.

Still, if I were a target of a possible assassination, I'd sure make sure there were no children around wherever I was. Especially no grandchildren. I'm funny that way. I don'l like putting children in dangerous situations. I guess I learned that from my father, who always held his children's, grandchildren's, and now great-grandchildren's safety as his top priority. Seems natural to me.
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boston bean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-30-11 08:09 PM
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74. I may respond to your responses to me. If you say I don't know it all, well then
pray tell, tell us what you know that makes me so wrong.

1. It was the sons house
2. We must know he has children that live with him
3. Your stance is that it is OK for the US to make such a calculation to kill innocent children along with Gadaffi.

Those are the facts as I see them at this time.
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Tx4obama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-30-11 08:01 PM
Response to Reply #52
63. It was Gaddafi's choice to be there. He knows that anywhere he is a target.

Go ask Gaddafi why he wanted his grandkids to be in the eye of a military target.
NATO warned him NOT to use human shields.
It was Gaddafi choice to do so.

Now, ciao! I have to go WATCH Our President at the White House Correspondence Dinner.

http://www.c-span.org/Live-Video/C-SPAN /

http://www.c-span.org/Live-Video/C-SPAN /

http://www.c-span.org/Live-Video/C-SPAN /

http://www.c-span.org/Live-Video/C-SPAN /

http://www.c-span.org/Live-Video/C-SPAN /

http://www.c-span.org/Live-Video/C-SPAN /




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boston bean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-30-11 08:04 PM
Response to Reply #63
67. Ask NATO and the US why it's ok to kill children because
they happen to be there.

Your argument is nauseating.
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MineralMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-30-11 07:57 PM
Response to Reply #34
56. I'm not supposed to tell, but the poster has an inside track with the
NATO general staff. Shhhh....don't tell anyone. Mum's the word...I'll say no more...
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boston bean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-30-11 08:04 PM
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69. OH, you must too, knowing I'm all wrong and have to be huh?
You got lots to say yourself. Back it up buddy!
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MineralMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-30-11 08:07 PM
Response to Reply #69
73. It's a joke, Ms. Bean. Of course you know nobody on the general
staff of NATO. To think you did would be ludicrous. I don't back up jokes.
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boston bean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-30-11 08:09 PM
Response to Reply #73
75. And you don't back up your shit just hurl it. Uff da!
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Tx4obama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-30-11 07:55 PM
Response to Reply #26
51. Gaddafi knows that 'anywhere' HE goes it 'is' a target. Gaddafi made the choice to be there. n/t
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MineralMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-30-11 08:01 PM
Response to Reply #51
64. +100. And the owner of the house should have sent the
children away from there for that meeting. People who are targets normally do not keep their children near them in such situations.
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boston bean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-30-11 08:03 PM
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66. -100. NO, it doesn't work that way. We are better than that MinMan.
You know it. We are better. We knew or should have known there were children there and we made a choice to bomb away anyhow.

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Maru Kitteh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-30-11 07:38 PM
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24. Who TF do you think you are to tell anyone what they can or can't say to you?

If you don't want to hear it, don't start shit.

Gadaffi isn't any better. I said that because it will knot your drawers.
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boston bean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-30-11 07:40 PM
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27. I'm glad you said it. Shows you think the US is just as bad as Gadaffi
and that we have the right to be.

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MineralMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-30-11 07:45 PM
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35. Then don't watch.
Edited on Sat Apr-30-11 07:47 PM by MineralMan
Always an option. I doubt if anyone will notice whether you watch or not.
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Tx4obama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-30-11 07:46 PM
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36. What about all the children and women and men that Gaddafi has ordered killied?
And you are upset because NATO is going after Gaddafi in order to stop him from killing more innocent?
All Gaddafi has to do is pull his troops out and step down and it would be all over, and he knows it.

Ridiculous!

Watch the damn dinner and enjoy it or turn off your damn TV!

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boston bean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-30-11 07:48 PM
Response to Reply #36
40. You're right, we're no better than Gadaffi. We kill INNOCENT CHILDREN TOO! nt
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Tx4obama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-30-11 07:50 PM
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44. Apparently you know nothing of WHY we/NATO is there.
Gaddafi went on TV and announced that he was going to go into Misurata and KILL PEOPLE.
Would you have been happy for the USA and the rest of the world to just let Gaddafi's troops go in and massacre a WHOLE CITY of people including the children and women?

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boston bean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-30-11 07:51 PM
Response to Reply #44
46. Uh NO. But I'm pretty outraged that we would do the same thing. nt
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Mimosa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-30-11 07:48 PM
Response to Reply #36
42. Classy, really classy. NOT. n/t
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Mimosa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-30-11 07:51 PM
Response to Reply #36
45. Who's next on the US/NATO hit list?
North Korea? No, no oil. Zimbabwe, no, no oil....any suggestions?
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Terra Alta Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-30-11 08:05 PM
Response to Reply #36
70. so because Gaddafi does it means we should to it too?
it's even worse when we do it because we are supposed to be morally superior to Gaddafi

never thought I'd see the day when DUers excuse the murder of innocent children.
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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-30-11 07:47 PM
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38. Threads like this make me sick, because it's all about you wanting to feel morally superior
lets not pretend it has anything to do with dead kids. of course you will dramawhore it up with "authorized the killing of innocent children" to make yourelf feel better with your fake outrage.



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boston bean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-30-11 07:48 PM
Response to Reply #38
41. Unlike your pure outrage at me, v the killing of innocent children at the hands of US. nt
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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-30-11 07:55 PM
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53. they didn't target the kidsunlike Gaddaffi who is purposely killing kids everyday
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boston bean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-30-11 07:59 PM
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58. no, they knew it was the son's house.
You don't think our intelligence service would know whether this son had any children or wife.

And why is he dead. Are we now targeting all of Gadaffi's family.

We are better than this. No matter how you try to rationalize this, we are better than this.
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lillypaddle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-30-11 07:51 PM
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47. boston bean
:puke:

you are one note.
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boston bean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-30-11 07:53 PM
Response to Reply #47
49. You are always the same old song and dance. nt
:puke:
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The Velveteen Ocelot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-30-11 07:56 PM
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54. So far the only information has come from Gadaffi's spokespeople.
There has been no confirmation from NATO or any other source yet; we don't even know which NATO nation's forces did it -- or, for that matter, even if it really happened as claimed. Maybe for the time being you could pull your panties out of your crack and wait to find out what really occurred? It might not even be true.
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Tx4obama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-30-11 07:58 PM
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57. If you think you can do better then go run for president. But I'm sure Obama will get more votes
and will be re-elected in 2012 ;)

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boston bean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-30-11 08:00 PM
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62. Are you trying to thread jack?
Got nothing so make this personal.

Good try.
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Puregonzo1188 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-30-11 08:04 PM
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68. I can't stand to watch any of them carry on at some expensive party when we're waging war on poor
people and have so much misery at home as well.
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JoePhilly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-30-11 08:06 PM
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72. Don't watch it. Problem solved.
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greatauntoftriplets Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-30-11 08:11 PM
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76. We're locking this thread as it's become a flamefest.....
and a train wreck.



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