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katanalori Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-11 08:57 PM
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RECOUNT ALERT! SERIOUS BREAK IN CHAIN OF CUSTODY IN WAUKESHA COUNTY!

"Breaking News Out of Waukesha County Wisconsin -- This being reported from witnesses on the ground in Waukesha"

"At around 2:15pm, we were ready to open the bags for Delafield. There were three bags total. Bags 1 & 2 were fine. The numbers all matched up. When we got to bag 3, we found out that the bag # was NOT RECORDED ON THE INSPECTOR'S statement...! The Republican canvass person said we could assume that the clerk forgot to write the # down on the inspector's statement and we could proceed. Of course, this is a break in the chain of custody!..."

(snip)

"I called the campaign and they said to tell Bill to tell the judge that we are considering making an objection and want to have legal counsel. They said DO NOT open the bag. I raced back into the room and found Bill. He said the bag had already been opened..."


"He said he objected and asked the judge to open the other bags first, and not # 3, but the judge said NO. Bill said it's in the minutes and we have a record of it. BUT...they started counting the ballots in bag 3 first. By this time the ......media started pouring in."


http://www.politiscoop.com/component/content/article/35...


This is a BIG municipality - tens of thousands of votes!
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PeaceNikki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-11 08:58 PM
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1. Um, it's not a big municipality. Where'd you get that info? There were a few hundred votes in bag.
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EmmettKelly Donating Member (105 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-11 09:06 PM
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7. I'm pretty sure if you post in all caps it makes it true.
Or maybe not.
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PeaceNikki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-11 09:06 PM
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9. There are only about 4,500 voters in that municipality and this was one bag from one unit.
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jsamuel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-11 10:08 PM
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41. so how many ballots would one expect to be in there?
Edited on Thu Apr-28-11 10:12 PM by jsamuel
2000?

1000?

500?

What if enough bags add up to 14,000 votes?
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PeaceNikki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-11 10:10 PM
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43. About 350.
Agreed. See my below responses.
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Drale Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-11 09:18 PM
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22. Isn't that one of the rules of the internet?
Like the rule of the M$M that the louder and more often you say something the truer it becomes?
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ChairmanAgnostic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-29-11 02:14 PM
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54. We have rules?
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katanalori Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-11 09:07 PM
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10. Here -
I got that info from the end of the article (at link).
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PeaceNikki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-11 09:09 PM
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14. It's full of shit. There are only 4500 voters in Delafield on its best day.
Edited on Thu Apr-28-11 09:11 PM by PeaceNikki
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eowyn_of_rohan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-11 09:32 PM
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ok - so the number of voters may be off. What about the rest? -nt
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PeaceNikki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-11 09:33 PM
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34. Read the rest of this thread.
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katanalori Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-11 09:09 PM
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13. Sorry, but I obtained info from linked article -
"Darcy said that with this big a municipality ...that we're talking thousands of votes (I think she said 10,000). I don't know how many votes we're talking here, but this is very suspicious. Why couldn't the judge wait? Why did they open # 3 first? Darcy said the judge was in the hall talking to Kevin Kennedy about it. I had to leave, I was too upset."
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PeaceNikki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-11 09:10 PM
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16. Darcy wouldn't have said that.
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RagAss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-11 08:59 PM
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2. I'm shocked !
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PeaceNikki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-11 09:01 PM
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3. I arrived at about 3 and Darcy (quoted in link) approached me right away to discuss.
There were 350 ballot in there at most. The Board overruled objection and the votes were counted. Objection was entered as evidence.

Here's a local news report that talks about it a bit. http://www.jsonline.com/multimedia/video/?bcpid=5580922...
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drm604 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-11 09:03 PM
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4. K&R
:kick:
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undeterred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-11 09:03 PM
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5. You're from Los Angeles and you're screaming about Waukesha County?
How weird is that?
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PeaceNikki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-11 09:04 PM
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6. It's a bunch of "THE SKY IS FALLING" shit.
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undeterred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-11 09:06 PM
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8. I think only people from Wisconsin should be able to SCREAM about the recount in Wisconsin.
And even then, only people who volunteered that particular day.
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PeaceNikki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-11 09:09 PM
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12. I had to have spoken with whoever made that anonymous report.
It's funny how quickly you get to know each other in those close quarters. Bill and Darcy are awesome and they objected and it's been entered into evidence. It was a few hundred votes. Now if every municipality in Waukesha has one or 2 bags with seal issues, THEN I will SCREAM. Until then, I keep watching and objecting when needed.
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katanalori Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-11 09:18 PM
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24. THANK YOU PeaceNikki
I appreciate that you are on the ground and giving us the facts.
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PeaceNikki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-11 09:30 PM
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31. Darcy and Bill did exactly what they were supposed to do.
The part you all should scream about is that the Kloppenburg campaign does NOT have an official lawyer on site in Waukesha. Bill (as noted) is a volunteer.
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eowyn_of_rohan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-11 09:34 PM
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35. Are you the spokesperson for the volunteer Kloppenburg reps in Waukesha?
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PeaceNikki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-11 09:34 PM
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36. Darcy has been while I've been there.
Edited on Thu Apr-28-11 09:35 PM by PeaceNikki
For the record, we are her ONLY reps there. She has no paid staff or lawyers in Waukesha.
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midnight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-11 10:45 PM
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49. Peace Nikki are you saying Darcy and you are the only reps for Kloppenburg?
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PeaceNikki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-29-11 04:53 AM
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53. No. I am saying Darcy has been the spokesperson.
Edited on Fri Apr-29-11 05:10 AM by PeaceNikki
That was poorly worded, "we" meaning the volunteers, not just Darcy and I. There have been 6-8 of us at a time while I've been there.
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midnight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-29-11 05:47 PM
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56. Glad to hear it... Thanks...
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eowyn_of_rohan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-11 09:30 PM
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32. Oh, I don't know. I screamed plenty over Florida and Ohio
If they want to screa, I say, Welcome to the club.
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Dont call me Shirley Donating Member (396 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-29-11 03:25 PM
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55. The gop has made Wisconsin a national issue....
because of their rampant corruption, criminality and overt defiance, overthrow, of democracy.
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eowyn_of_rohan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-11 11:03 PM
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51. Kloppenburg campaign says 'anomalies' warrant more review
Thursday, April 28, 2011
9:26 PM:

JoAnne Kloppenburg's campaign manager says the first two days of the recount in the state Supreme Court race have tuned up a number of "anomalies" that warrant further review.

Still, Melissa Mulliken held off during a conference call with reporters from declaring any major shifts in the race, saying the process was ongoing.

"This is what a recount does," Mulliken said. "It looks at the process, and we think that we're going to shine some light and find some places where there were anomalies, and that's what we're finding and the process has to work."

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katanalori Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-11 09:15 PM
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20. Born and raised in WI
All my siblings still there. I am sorry that the information is wrong - it came from the end of article.
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PeaceNikki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-11 09:18 PM
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23. It's suspicious that the person who knows the names of the Kloppenburg reps
would have no fucking clue how many votes we are talking about. Anyone from Waukesha County knows how big Delafield is (or isn't) . Oh, and they counted them and read the numbers out loud.
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midnight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-11 10:48 PM
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50. I read that too.... I'm glad you have brought our attention to the info...
Hopefully we can get to the bottom of this... I'm really trying to figure out why the judge counted the third bag with the seal issue...
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peacetalksforall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-11 09:07 PM
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11. Delafield is a city in Waukesha County, Wisconsin, along the Bark River, and a suburb of Milwaukee.
Edited on Thu Apr-28-11 09:13 PM by peacetalksforall
I dropped this part when pasting: The population was 6,472 at the 2000 census.

This is from Wikipedia.


They should recount every darn vote in the State.
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PeaceNikki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-11 09:09 PM
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15. We are.
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peacetalksforall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-11 09:17 PM
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21. The population count was dropped from my message - I edited to add it.
People are talking about thousands and then demeaning a small count?

We should have the totals of the other bags first it would seem.

Are they going to mix them all up? Sounds crazy there and I can see why, but people should slow down and act kadult and think ahead to the way the public would have wanted them to do it - which to me means counting what they new were legit first - legit in that is was according to accountability decorum.

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PeaceNikki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-11 09:22 PM
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27. No, the ballots were counted separately.
The bag included other information that was evidence of legitimacy and the reconciliation of #'s matched. Now, could this be evidence of tampering? Yes, but not enough for more than a few hundred votes. As I said elsewhere, if this is consistently the case in every municipality (1 or 2 suspect bags), THEN something is very very fucking wrong. Til then, we continue to count, monitor, object and ebter into evidence.
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jsamuel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-11 10:19 PM
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45. sounds good
keep those eyes out for bags like that

Someone at DailyKos said they had heard of another bag like that one, but who knows...
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MadBadger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-11 09:11 PM
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17. Delafield has a population of 6500
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PeaceNikki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-11 09:12 PM
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18. IT'S HUGH!!!11!!
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undeterred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-11 09:19 PM
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25. Delafield is cute.
Even its convenience store/gas station is cute.
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PeaceNikki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-11 09:23 PM
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28. I'm right next door. It is cute. Lake Country as a whole is.
Red as fucking blood, but pretty as all get out.

:)
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Ellipsis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-11 09:24 PM
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29. Didn't Walker grow up there? It is a pretty little town.
Edited on Thu Apr-28-11 09:25 PM by Ellipsis
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PeaceNikki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-11 09:26 PM
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30. noooooo!! Delavan. Different.
Edited on Thu Apr-28-11 09:29 PM by PeaceNikki
But The freaky-eyed terrifying weirdo Jesus freak mini-Palin Lt. Gov is from Oconomowoc just to the west of us.
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Ellipsis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-11 09:44 PM
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37. Ah.. Thanks.
Edited on Thu Apr-28-11 09:45 PM by Ellipsis
GAB is keeping a informal spread sheet of the daily count and progress there of.

... I'm sure you know this.

They changed how they they are posting results and the actual results. They pulled it this morning and didn't update it till after six today. No big deal, but they took Bayfield off that had that 60 vote for Kloppenburg, That seemed a little odd, though they put a qualifier in it that it didn't have all the votes counted listed and they'll be updating tomorrow noon.


I'm curious 'bout that.


Make sure you stay rested... Come May 9th your going to be burned out with visions of ballots dancing in your dreams.

..take care now.
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PeaceNikki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-11 09:46 PM
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38. See... I didn't know about the GAB spreadsheet.
Edited on Thu Apr-28-11 09:47 PM by PeaceNikki
In addition to spending as much time at recount as possible, I am still working full time AND doing a fitness bootcamp.

Yeah, I need to chillax. Nowish, in fact. Have a good one!! :hi:
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jsamuel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-11 10:06 PM
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39. source?
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PeaceNikki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-11 10:08 PM
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40. Lol. Did you lose your Google CD-ROM?
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jsamuel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-11 10:10 PM
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42. who knew asking for a link to information provided would be such an offense
why are you so touchy?
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PeaceNikki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-11 10:11 PM
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44. Touchy? I lol'd.
Literally.
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MadBadger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-11 10:19 PM
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46. Great thing called Wikipedia
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jsamuel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-11 10:25 PM
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48. thanks
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snacker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-11 09:13 PM
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19. More twists and turns
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Ellipsis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-11 09:20 PM
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26. *Snort* Is this a Brad Blog imitation?
Edited on Thu Apr-28-11 09:22 PM by Ellipsis
:yoiks:

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PeaceNikki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-11 09:32 PM
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33. I hope that whoever filed that report isn't counting ANYfuckingthing.
Ever.
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deaniac21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-11 10:24 PM
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47. not
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Ellipsis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-29-11 12:07 AM
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52. What are you guys on the same team?
Edited on Fri Apr-29-11 12:11 AM by Ellipsis
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