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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-11 05:08 PM
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In the world of IT, my best managers have always been women
I don't think its a trend, but who knows? Maybe it is

Every woman I have had as a manager gave me clear instructions, well defined goals and achievable results

As opposed to managers who said "go ahead and do x." And when X is done, I catch all kinds of hell for it

Take that Scott Adams!

Take that Dave Sim!

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Motown_Johnny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-11 05:10 PM
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1. My best managers have always been women, no doubt about it
most of the time the female assistant managers are better than their male bosses.


You know what they say "Do you want to speak to the man in charge or the woman who knows whats going on?"
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RagAss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-11 05:35 PM
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2. Me too...in my 30 years in IT my best managers were also women.
Thoughtful and courageous are 2 words that come to mind.
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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-11 05:37 PM
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4. "Never mind the bollocks" comes to mind as well
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RagAss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-11 05:37 PM
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3. Slightly off topic ....but I think DU needs an IT forum...there are lots of us here.
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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-11 05:37 PM
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5. Yes
And it would be helpful if we could form unions there too
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RagAss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-11 05:39 PM
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6. I'm in !
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RamboLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-11 05:39 PM
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7. As a female IT person glad to hear it
When I went to school back in early 70's best programming teacher on staff was a female.

And as a female looking for my first IT job I had to look under "male help wanted" in paper. Friggin' unbelievable.
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RagAss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-11 05:41 PM
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10. A female created COBOL.
COBOL is my trade. I owe great thanks to Grace Hopper !
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RamboLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-11 06:37 PM
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16. +1 on Grace Hopper
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lumberjack_jeff Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-11 05:40 PM
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8. My women managers have all been above average.
Both up and down the food chain.

Generally (but not always) better at their ability to separate their ego from the objectives they set out for their staff.

The worst were men.

But I don't think it's fair to generalize.
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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-11 05:46 PM
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11. One of the reasons I think Hilary Clinton would be one of the best bosses ever
It's all results with her!

Not stupid glad-handing shit, but results! Who woulda thunk?
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-11 05:41 PM
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9. The worst one I ever had by far was a woman
She really hated me.
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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-11 05:46 PM
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12. Granted, there are exceptions
And yes, I have had "evil" women bosses too

But in IT, that wasn't the case

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BillyJack Donating Member (653 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-11 05:48 PM
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13. Quelle surprise!!!! n/t
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-11 06:55 PM
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20. Don't try to BillyJack someone you don't know very well
;-)
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quaker bill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-11 05:58 PM
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14. My best scientists have mostly been women.
and picking them out has not been all that difficult.
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TNLib Donating Member (683 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-11 06:08 PM
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15. My current manager is a women
and she's the best manager I've ever had. I also work in IT. As a women in IT I've had to deal with allot of silly nonsense from my male supervisors and managers over the years.
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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-11 06:39 PM
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17. I have done technical writing in big and small IT software development shops..
Edited on Tue Apr-26-11 06:41 PM by patrice
The biggest one, run by men, and serving national network ops, used to just freak me out with how haphazard all of the communication was between different types of engineers, many of them from different countries, and between engineers and other types of staff. People wouldn't admit that they didn't know stuff. They'd pretend that their own specialized jargon meant exactly the same things to everyone involved. They'd ballpark stuff and then really sweat it out when it came to migration. It was scary around there!

The smallest shop, with an international warehouse management customer base that they'd been catering to with every customization of it's 25-year-old COBOL heart imaginable, absolutely depended on two women who tested whether and how well the code did what their customers wanted it to do. We were bought out by a web-based app group, for our customer base, almost everyone was laid off and the old code that jumped through every hoop imaginable (and I do know it did because I wrote their reports manuals for them that contained several hundred reports) was retired.
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FLPanhandle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-11 06:44 PM
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18. I've had mixed experiences with male/female managers
However, my best employees have been women.
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-11 06:49 PM
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19. good to know. i have had three women bosses adn they have all been good. but then,
i have had more men bosses adn they have all been good, too. i always got along with my bosses.
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