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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-25-11 10:15 PM
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A new birther twist: Obama won't release bc because it would reveal TRUE identity of his father
A member of the Hawaii State Senate said today he believes Barack Obama is not releasing his long-form birth certificate because he may want to hide the identity or citizenship of his father.

In an extraordinary outburst, Republican Sam Slom said the 'real issue' behind the reluctance of the President, who says he was born in Hawaii, to release full details from his birth certificate was unlikely to be because he wanted to hide his place of birth.

'My particular point of view... is that probably was born and that the real issue is not the birth certificate, but what's on the birth certificate,' Slom said in an interview on New York's WABC 770 AM radio station.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1380349/Barack-...
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leftstreet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-25-11 10:17 PM
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1. But that's dumb. Why would it matter?
Rhetorical...I don't expect you to figure out the dumbness

:crazy:
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-25-11 10:19 PM
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2. my fucking head is spinnin
:silly:
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mrmpa Donating Member (707 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-11 10:13 AM
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46. As long as it spins back to the left, you'll be okay eom
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-11 02:43 PM
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57. to the left, to the left
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trotsky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-11 07:02 AM
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34. No kidding.
George Herbie Bush's dad was a Nazi collaborator, but no one cared about that! :)
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ladywnch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-11 03:16 PM
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63. because these morons still believe that if one parent is not a US citizen
then the child can't be a US citizen....so they're saying that Obama, a constitutional scholar, wouldn't know these 'facts' and he is trying to hide his father was not a US citizen.

My personal favorite is still: his grandparents put the birth announcement in the paper because they knew he would grow up to be a presidential candidate and wanted to provide him cover for citizenship. I wish his grandmother was still alive, I'd ask her to pick some lotto numbers for me!.....she obviously had the gift!.
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Blue-Jay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-25-11 10:20 PM
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3. On FR, they think that his father may have been Malcolm X or maybe Jimi Hendrix.
No kiddin'
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-25-11 10:22 PM
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7. you're sending me to the bathroom on this one
:rofl:
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yardwork Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-25-11 10:23 PM
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10. How cool would that be?
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Raine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-11 03:37 AM
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31. Yeah SUPER cool!!! and TOTALLY 100% American!
:patriot: :evilgrin:
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Webster Green Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-25-11 10:26 PM
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12. Hendrix? Really?
I like it. We should spread it far and wide.
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ReturnoftheDjedi Donating Member (839 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-25-11 10:27 PM
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13. Obama is a Voodoo Chile. That much is certain.
:)
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demosincebirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-25-11 11:29 PM
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23. That would cinch it, then.
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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-11 01:51 AM
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27. Hendrix? Like that would be a BAD thing?
Jesus fucking Christ. We could use a few thousand more like Jimi.
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Recursion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-11 08:08 AM
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38. We need a few thousand more self-destructive prima donnas? (nt)
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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-11 01:13 PM
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48. Yeah.
The man revolutionized guitar playing to a level decades ahead of his time, and was a transcendentally timeless artist. Plus, he was a decent, kind human being. Yes, he was self-destructive. But he was also a fucking genius.

Sorry if that pisses you off. Don't worry, even if we had more Hendrixes, we're still never going to run out of clean-cut, family friendly Bieber types for you to rock out to on the Disney Channel. :thumbsup: :yourock:
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Recursion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-11 01:21 PM
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49. See, I was thinking he only worked because there was one of him
Edited on Tue Apr-26-11 02:01 PM by Recursion
If there's a ton of them running around, it's not special anymore.

Thanks for the dig at my musical tastes, btw.
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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-11 02:40 PM
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55. Sorry. Seriously. I get defensive when people bag on Jimi
Nothing personal, but... he is missed. :hippie:
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Recursion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-11 02:42 PM
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56. I think part of me takes Noel's side (nt)
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NoGOPZone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-11 08:51 AM
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44. Next they'll be saying that this was the reason for Malcolm's assassination
and that Hendrix was also murdered just to be on the safe side.
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Frank Cannon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-11 01:30 PM
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50. So there should be no question at all about his citizenship.
Since either of those men were born in the U.S. to American parents.

How do these people function well enough to even find their way out of bed in the morning?
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blogslut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-25-11 10:21 PM
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4. I can't say the implications lurking behind this nasty mess
...because it's too offensive to write in public.
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Swede Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-25-11 10:22 PM
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5. It's not Darth Vader,surely.
:shrug:
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Dyedinthewoolliberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-25-11 10:22 PM
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6. Maybe it's
Ronald Reagan! :rofl:
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Hugabear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-25-11 10:23 PM
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8. I demand PROOF that Obama is not a time-traveling alien
I demand PROOF that Obama is not a time-traveling alien from the Andromeda galaxy 5,000 years in the future.

:sarcasm:
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Old and In the Way Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-25-11 10:23 PM
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9. It's Malcolm X!!!!!!!11!11
I'm series!!!111!
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-25-11 10:30 PM
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15. NOOOO.... It's William Ayers and Rev Jeremiah Wright - they are the parents
William Ayers was technically Williamenia Ayers, but gave birth to a baby before he had gender reassignment. Or maybe Jeremiah Wright was?

:crazy:
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DearAbby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-11 01:28 AM
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26. I heard the other day
it was Obama himself who was born a female, had sex change operation, and didn't want the birth certificate released because it would reveal this.

What relevancy this has to the qualifications laid out in the constitution, I have no clue.
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L. Coyote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-11 08:29 AM
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42. MLK Jr.
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Pirate Smile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-25-11 10:26 PM
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11. They say this shit to imply that it says he is Muslim on the BC but the state of Hawaii has already
said there isn't even a frigging spot for religion on any of the forms and nothing like that is true. It is just more of their smear campaign based on lies and innuendo. Disgusting pieces of garbage - all of them.
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Capitalocracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-11 02:18 AM
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28. Just like a racist right-wing Christian
to think that a non-existent field theoretically filled in as Muslim on a government document created at birth makes you once and forever an evil Commie Muslim terrorist and enemy of our Christian Nation
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Frank Cannon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-11 01:34 PM
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51. I didn't know newborn babies actually had any particular religion
I mean, unless they were born in a church pew or something.
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AsahinaKimi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-25-11 10:28 PM
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14. All these birthers give me a headache..
Edited on Mon Apr-25-11 10:29 PM by AsahinaKimi
Where is my bottle of Aleve? (*goes and looks**)
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DCKit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-25-11 10:31 PM
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16. Satan has universal citizenship. How is that an issue?
It's a wonder U.S. productivity hasn't completely bottomed out with such a huge number of people obsessing over so much crazy shit.
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demmiblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-25-11 10:32 PM
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17. We need to get dkf on that. n/t
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dkf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-25-11 10:48 PM
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19. It's never ending you know.
Now there are all kind of aspersions on his mother. This is depressing.

But of course no one here would like this issue to be put to rest with Obama authorizing the release of his long form.
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-25-11 10:52 PM
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20. did you read the NY Times Magazine article about her?
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muriel_volestrangler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-11 06:59 AM
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33. Why would that 'put it to rest'?
The normal certification - the one everyone uses for anything official, and which was made public years ago - tells us the name of his father and mother, where he was born, the day he was born - everything we need to know. Why would something with a few extra details (the name of the attending doctor? The time of birth on the day?) make any difference?
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-11 02:53 PM
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59. and -- one more time mind you --
HE CAN'T RELEASE HIS LONG FORM CERTIFICATE!!!!

I posted particulars on that on Sunday.
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dkf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-25-11 10:33 PM
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18. Sigh. It's just going to get worse and worse with more time sucked into the whirling vortex.
The BC has become Monica Lewinsky sized coverage.
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-11 07:26 AM
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36. Huge difference
There is absolutely nothing wrong with Obama's birth certificate. It is an official state recognized and issued document.

With Clinton, he did really have an inappropriate relationship with 19 or 20 year old intern - which he then lied about under oath - and got caught. If he were a Republican, we would not be as dismissive.

In some ways, this is more similar to the "questions" on Kerry's war service - where all his Navy issued records were on his web site from April 2004 on. Yet there are STILL some rightwingers claiming there are unreleased records somewhere that Kerry is hiding. (Mostly based on the fact that all the records showed a very good junior officer.)

In 2004, I thought it disgusting that they would question intact, complete records - that Nixon's team in which found nothing to discredit Kerry with. But, this takes it a step further. They are questioning a document that everyone has - that records a pretty simple event (in terms of facts).

What is stunning is that they now have the ability to create their own reality and spread it through there own world. Facts no longer matter - even something as basic as the identity of the man who is the President of the US.
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Merlot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-25-11 10:54 PM
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21. Notice how they're changing the narrative?
First it was "release the BCc" because they thought he wasn't born here - never mind that his mother was an American citizen. But that angle is wearing thin so now there is the NEW angle of "what's on the BC - What's he hiding?" which allows for a much wider discussion and is good for those that don't like him but still believe he was born in/is an American.

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AsahinaKimi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-25-11 11:00 PM
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22. Everyone knows his true father was
Jor EL



:hide:
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pansypoo53219 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-11 12:10 AM
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24. butbutbut we already KNOW his father is jar-el
andandand his real name is steve.
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MilesColtrane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-11 01:04 AM
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25. Slom obviously believes Obama's father was a Marxist Muslim Cylon.
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Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-11 03:21 AM
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29. Darth Vader!?
Seriously, it might as well be Darth Fucking Vader when it comes to apeshit loony toon idiots like the birther tinfoilers! Luke...I am your father!!!!
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-11 03:24 AM
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30. not new. the birthers have been speculating that his father was Frank Marshall
or Malcolm X for years.
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deacon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-11 04:36 AM
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32. His real father is the Loch Ness Monster...shhhhhh. don't tell anybody. n/t
Edited on Tue Apr-26-11 04:42 AM by deacon
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Vinca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-11 07:05 AM
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35. But what about the "seed of Islam?" Does that still apply?
:rofl:
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melm00se Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-11 07:29 AM
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37. you mean
his father might be *GASP* an alien?

or,even worse from a the POV of a repub, a black man!!!

the horrors
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Recursion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-11 08:18 AM
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39. Remember, these dumbasses think both your parents must be citizens for you to be a "natural born"...
...citizen.
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-11 08:21 AM
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40. what's next? he was born out of our solar system?
dumbfucks are as dumbfucks do
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marmar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-11 08:24 AM
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41. The only positive from this birther silliness is that Obama is driving these people insane.

On Edit: ......driving these people even more insane.



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hobbit709 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-11 08:34 AM
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43. How many people are 100% sure of who their father is.
Even with a birth certificate. Only a DNA test would know for sure.
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Tommy_Carcetti Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-11 08:55 AM
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45. His father is Darth Vader?!?!?
Edited on Tue Apr-26-11 08:56 AM by Tommy_Carcetti


NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

(Yes, I know 10 other people posted the same thing. But I couldn't stop myself.)
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HopeHoops Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-11 11:52 AM
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47. His father is really Darth Vader.
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Armstead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-11 01:34 PM
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52. Maybe his father is really Don Ho, or Jim Nabors...Maybe even Tom Selleck or Steve McGarrett
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-11 02:54 PM
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60. book him, Dan O
:hi:
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LeftinOH Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-11 01:59 PM
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53. The father is "Kam Fong as Chin Ho".
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sakabatou Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-11 02:02 PM
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54. I'm hedging my bet on Cthulhu
:sarcasm:
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Lone_Star_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-11 02:49 PM
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58. There you have it. He doesn't want America to know his father was Ronald Reagan.
Fine, it's out now. I hope Slom is willing to take responsibility, and pay for the clean up, of all the exploding heads across the country!
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southernyankeebelle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-11 02:58 PM
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61. Republicans keep spinning it only helps Obama and you all look stupid.
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RebelOne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-11 03:02 PM
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62. Dumb ass Neal Boortz said on his show last week
that the religion questions would reveal that his father was a Muslim and his mother was an atheist.
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tnlefty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-11 04:08 PM
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64. I would appreciate the opportunity to slap the shit out of Trump
Edited on Tue Apr-26-11 04:08 PM by tnlefty
for stirring this shit up again!

I've tried to ignore it, but it is everywhere. I've tried to have use humor, but that is failing now and my patience with this bullshit is running out. :mad:

The Times/Free Press has a RANT section in the Sunday paper and I may try to put something together and submit it, referencing this nut and stating that I think Trump is the mysterious father.
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yardwork Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-11 09:33 PM
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65. Eeewwwwww. You don't want to touch that.
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kevinbgoode Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-11 09:36 PM
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66. OMG...is it Todd Palin?
which would make Obama...Sarah's step-child?

The plot thickens each and every day.

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