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Tx4obama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-25-11 06:36 PM
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President Obama Didn't Do Enough To Celebrate Easter, Critics Say (I say BULLSHIT!)
One of the things that's a "thing" today is that people, driven by a Fox Nation story, are complaining about the Obama White House's failure to issue a proclamation about Easter. The White House, of course, hosted an Easter Egg Roll, and the president also hosted an Easter-themed prayer breakfast, at which he said this:

"I wanted to host this breakfast for a simple reason -- because as busy as we are, as many tasks as pile up, during this season, we are reminded that there's something about the resurrection -- something about the resurrection of our savior, Jesus Christ, that puts everything else in perspective.

"We all live in the hustle and bustle of our work... But then comes Holy Week. The triumph of Palm Sunday. The humility of Jesus washing the disciples' feet. His slow march up that hill, and the pain and the scorn and the shame of the cross. And we're reminded that in that moment, he took on the sins of the world -- past, present and future -- and he extended to us that unfathomable gift of grace and salvation through his death and resurrection.

"In the words of the book Isaiah: "But he was wounded for our transgressions, he was bruised for our iniquities: the chastisement of our peace was upon him; and with his stripes we are healed."

"This magnificent grace, this expansive grace, this 'Amazing Grace' calls me to reflect. And it calls me to pray. It calls me to ask God for forgiveness for the times that I've not shown grace to others, those times that I've fallen short. It calls me to praise God for the gift of our son -- his Son and our Savior."


Full article here: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/04/25/president-obam...


p.s. The Obama Family also attended Shiloh Baptist Church in Washington, D.C. on Sunday for an Easter service.


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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-25-11 06:40 PM
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1. Damned if he doesn't do enough and if he had he
would have been damned for spending too much time on Easter.
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abelenkpe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-25-11 06:40 PM
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2. You don't expect reality
to change the messaging on the nutty right do you?
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fishwax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-25-11 07:49 PM
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38. they're reality-proof
nothing gets in the way of their hating ...
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Ferret Annica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-25-11 06:42 PM
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3. What's Easter?
Oh, you mean the start of spring, and yet another time of Pagan holiday celebration the Christians hijack to borg their religion all over our culture.
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DevonRex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-25-11 06:46 PM
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8. Good grief. Why are you insulting people?
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tnlefty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-25-11 06:52 PM
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11. Wasn't insulting to me, but then I live in an area where
someone's religion permeates damned near everything. Any pushback to try to achieve a modicum of separation of church and state brings out howls, slings and arrows.

I've been sick of it for decades.
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DevonRex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-25-11 06:59 PM
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19. How nice for you.
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tnlefty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-25-11 07:20 PM
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28. How nice for you, too!
Whatever the hell that means.
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Ferret Annica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-25-11 07:00 PM
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20. I live in Oregon where few go to church
Edited on Mon Apr-25-11 07:02 PM by Ferret Annica
I get culture shock when I go back East and get someone's religion shoved in my face. And I even told my dearly loved and precious Grandmother no way about going to Mass with her and the family there. And another 'friend' who gave me a cross once got it back quickly. The second time they tried to give it to me I took a hammer to it.

I lost out on schools and opportunities in the service too because I wouldn't bow before the false Jesus thing. And I disliked the way the Baptist Churches advertised with huge signs to fight gay marriage here in Portland when it was a big issue before the state high court.

If Jesus had existed and came down talking his trash he is said to have talked in the Bible, the evangelicals wouldn't be able to nail him up again quickly enough because it ain't the same rap they give out. That's what I see, and if this is too blunt for some, too bad.
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tnlefty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-25-11 07:33 PM
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31. About 15 yrs. ago, my husband who was a believer at the
time...called into a local TV program and stated, 'if Jesus came back today the religious right would nail him up as a heretic'.

All that I can say is in my youth, here in the south, there was a respect for the separation of church and state that has fallen by the wayside, not only here, but it seems to be sweeping the country.

I had a conversation with my sons and my mother (70 something, recovering republican) about Huckabee's statement in SC (I think) that we should replace the Constitution with God's law...
my mother told my kids that if anyone had mentioned that crap years ago, they would have never been a candidate in the repub party. Yet the separation of church and state is further eroded here.
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Ferret Annica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-25-11 07:53 PM
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39. That cognitive shift toward Theocracy worries me.
Edited on Mon Apr-25-11 07:56 PM by Ferret Annica
I know that the focus of bothering people with the religion of others has gotten worse. We even had a brawl on Pioneer Square in Portland when they tried to strong arm those of us heckling the people screeching in our faces and waving the Holy Babble into silence.

Everyone got banned a month and the police came, but they made these people practice their free speech on another part of the square away from the benches where people drink coffee and chat. When they can hear someone else that is.

I was damned with faint praise when applying for the Army's Warrant Officer Flight School after the commander who would sign the letter going with the packet asked me some personal questions, many of them being very nosy about the fact I has Wicca on my dog tags.

And when I heckled an unelected candidate named Jeremiah Denton, the now former senator from the South who had been a POW over his chastity center proposal when he spoke at the Hanger for my aviation unit, some acted like they had caught me in the act of child molestation of something similar.

If we jettison the First Amendment that protects minor religions from the whims and caprice of the Majors, or adopt an official religion, I refuse to shut up. They will have to kill me first.

A commitment to belief that Patrick Henry said vary well when he said "Give me liberty, or give me death."
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Ferret Annica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-25-11 06:53 PM
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12. I'm not. I'm expressing disdain for the way Christianity hijacks holidays
Islam and Christianity have been too strident and aggressive in promotion of their respective faiths. You have evangelicals vandalizing Buddhist shrines in South Korea and Vietnam, and damaging and vandalizing Hindu shrines in India.

And you have people inciting people to kill gays in Africa in the name of this made up faith as well.

They have burned thousands of people at the stake as 'witches,' and a a Wicca practitioner, I respect another's right to their religion and would not insult them over it; but I don't give that free pas to their religion itself.
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DevonRex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-25-11 06:58 PM
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18. Except you said "Christians.". There are Christian DUers you know.
And your post was insulting
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Ferret Annica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-25-11 07:07 PM
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24. I am criticizing the religion.
Edited on Mon Apr-25-11 07:08 PM by Ferret Annica
I have Christian friends, they know my views and they don't go ashes and sack cloth on me. Perhaps if the big old Internet is too course for you, you are engaging in the wrong activity, or you need to get a thicker political skin.

I might also add that I am of the mind that if anyone tried to ban Christianity I would have to fight that as I believe in what Voltaire is said to have said, "I may not agree with what you say, but I'll defend to death your right to say it."

Criticizing the holy Babble and Mr. Holes in the hands are one thing, but taking people's rights away or free speech is another matter. I am against it.
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Ferret Annica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-25-11 07:21 PM
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29. I looked at the post, and I was talking about specific Christian leaders who...
... did the holiday hijacking. They also deliberately claimed their made up Messiah was born in December to hijack the Winter Solstice.

Now, unless you know a very very very old Christian leader from the way back when the spring holiday was hijacked, you are just being silly saying I'm insulting Christians in general.

There are many nice Christians and Muslims in the world, and perhaps you are one of them. I don't know you but for a few posts as is the case with what you know about me, so anything is possible. You are being too defensive, and we don't believe many of the the same things spiritually. All these things can be gotten over. Cheers.
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DevonRex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-25-11 07:49 PM
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37. Okay.
I'm not defensive for my own spiritual beliefs but for the beliefs of others. I've charted my own unique path.
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Ferret Annica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-25-11 07:57 PM
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41. Good luck on your spiritual journey
And thanks for sharing.
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DevonRex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-25-11 08:08 PM
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42. Blessed be
:hi:

I'm glad the conversation turned out well.
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-25-11 06:43 PM
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4. pfft . . . whole stupid thing big waste of time & energy. .n/t
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leftstreet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-25-11 06:44 PM
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5. That's a helluva sermon Obama gave n/t
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-25-11 06:44 PM
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6. I suppose it's all Obama's fault that Easter Monday isn't a federal holiday.....
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MadMaddie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-25-11 06:44 PM
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7. Billy Graham's son basically said that he wasn't sure
if President Obama was the right type of Christian. I am paraphrasing but that's the gist of it.

It's sickening!
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Raine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-25-11 06:48 PM
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9. The ASS also said Obama carries the seed of Muslim
in him ... whatever the fuck that is! :mad:
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MadMaddie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-25-11 06:55 PM
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14. That my friend is "Racism" un hooded! Graham is a racist
no Black person in America deserves anything they have earned.

Fuck Graham and his hypocrisy.
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Curmudgeoness Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-25-11 06:55 PM
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15. Not the right type of Christian, huh? You mean
like the Christians who are shitting on the poor, hate their fellow man, and worship money?
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MadMaddie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-25-11 07:14 PM
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27. don't forget "White Christian Male"
see that is the secret ingredient.
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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-25-11 07:11 PM
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26. Franklin Graham sure ain't his father's Christian!
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Raine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-25-11 07:39 PM
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34. Franklin should stick to what he does best
fleecing his flock. x(
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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-25-11 07:45 PM
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36. Good one! I'm always astounded at how many poor saps are taken in by blowhards like him.
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Jack Sprat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-25-11 06:48 PM
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10. Everybody has done their best
to ignore these people. It's none of their business how anyone celebrates Easter or any religious holiday. I'm beginning to think that churches and religious sects have become political entities and should be taxed. When churches began entering the arena of politics, then they gave up their tax free exemption. This is nothing but pure politics and everyone knows it. Time for legislation that recognizes the church as a political and corporate entity. It's the main reason for so much skepticism towards God and religion in general. They have made a mockery of the whole religious movement.
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Curmudgeoness Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-25-11 06:56 PM
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17. Yes, this ^ ^ ^ ^
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ocd liberal Donating Member (333 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-25-11 06:54 PM
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13. WHAT is he supposed to do???
Be crucified and then rise three days later? Even that wouldn't be enough...
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Frank Cannon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-25-11 08:15 PM
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44. They would say he faked it.
He could destroy the universe and recreate in seven days and that still wouldn't be enough.
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Bill McBlueState Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-25-11 06:56 PM
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16. this is the discourse in a nutshell
By nearly every standard of church-state separation that has evolved in the developed world, Obama went way over the line in terms of endorsing religion while head of government. But it doesn't matter; he's still getting crap for not going far enough.
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leftstreet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-25-11 07:03 PM
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21. +1
I find it shocking, but I probably shouldn't.

Politicians used to invite preachers to give these sermons, which was strange enough
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krabigirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-25-11 07:05 PM
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22. Ugh, politicians shouldn't have to do anything for Easter or any holiday.
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tularetom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-25-11 07:41 PM
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35. I don't know if I'd go that far
I think the president should honor a fine American tradition by setting off illegal fireworks on July 4.

Maybe get shitfaced on New Years Eve.

And curl up on the couch after a big thanksgiving dinner and fall asleep watching a football game.

Religious holidays - nah, you're right, he should ignore them.
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Fire1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-25-11 07:06 PM
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23. So fuckin what if he's a Muslim!!!! Fuck these morons!!! n/t
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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-25-11 07:09 PM
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25. Didn't anybody get him some jelly bellies?! It's not Easter without them.
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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-25-11 07:22 PM
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30. To go against the president in a time of war is to give and comfort to the enemy
and you cannot change presidents in the middle of the war, lest we look weak and less than united in front of Al Qaeda.

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tularetom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-25-11 07:34 PM
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32. Why did he do ANYTHING?
We elected him president, not the pope.
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latebloomer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-25-11 07:55 PM
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40. Agreed- he went way over the line in my opinion
The chief of state should not be shoving his personal religious beliefs at the nation.
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Courtesy Flush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-25-11 07:35 PM
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33. But Obama is a member of Hare Club for Men.
Don't tell me he isn't serious about Easter.
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DainBramaged Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-25-11 08:12 PM
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43. Neither did Trump, Rove, Pawlenty, Palin, what bullshit.
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