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robdogbucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-25-11 04:32 PM
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Number 4 Fukushima reactor has temps rising despite continued infusion of water
Monitoring rising temperatures

The operator of the troubled Fukushima Daiichi nuclear power plant is carefully monitoring the situation at the Number 4 spent fuel pool, where the water temperature is rising despite increased injections of cooling water. Tokyo Electric Power Company, or TEPCO, says it will inject 210 tons of water into the pool on Monday, after finding on Sunday evening that the temperature in the pool had risen to 81 degrees Celsius.

The utility firm had earlier limited the amount of water being injected into the pool to 70 tons a day, saying the weight of the water could weaken the reactor building, which was already damaged in last month's hydrogen explosion. On Friday, TEPCO found that the pool's temperature had reached 91 degrees, so it began injecting 2 to 3 times the amount of water.

TEPCO says the pool's water temperature dropped to 66 degrees on Saturday after water was injected, but started to rise again, to 81 degrees. The operator says the water level in the pool was 2.5 meters lower than normal after 165 tons of water were injected on Sunday. It is carefully monitoring the water level and temperature to avoid further troubles.

The Number 4 spent fuel pool stores 1,535 fuel rods, the most at the nuclear complex.

Monday, April 25, 2011 12:04 +0900 (JST)

http://www3.nhk.or.jp/daily/english/25_12.html?play


Further on this from Washington's Blog:

"...In addition, the official Japanese atomic energy website shows 4,250 sieverts/hour of radiation inside the containment vessel at reactor 4 ("S/C" stands for suppression chamber):

This is especially odd given that reactor 4 was supposedly shut down prior to the earthquake for maintenance. In other words, reactor 4 was - according to official reports - shut down, and shouldn't have very much radiation at all. Something doesn't add up.

In contrast, the radiation inside the cores of the other reactors are much lower:

Reactor 1: 0
Reactor 2: 26.3
Reactor 3: 11.1
Reactor 5: 0
Reactor 6: 0

However, a Fukushima engineer says he helped cover up a cracked containment vessel at reactor number 4 for decades. On the other hand, the fact that no radiation is being reported in the drywell of reactor 4 (noted by "D/W" in the nuclear agency's tables) - while there it is for several of the other reactors - might imply that the containment vessel has maintained its stability."

http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2011/04/problems-at-reac...



Shill comments can be inserted in the anal aperture


Carry on, regardless


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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-25-11 04:33 PM
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1. this has fallen completely off the media charts in the good ol usa
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nc4bo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-25-11 04:35 PM
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2. Been gone and off-line for the most part and was wondering what the status was
since no news is happy-happy, joy-joy news as far as our media is concerned so glad to see something on DU about it.

Thanks to OP for the update.

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robdogbucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-25-11 04:44 PM
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3. I dont think the end of Fukushima accident is in sight - advocate
Philip White, from the Citizen's Nuclear Information Center, says that the situation is Fukushima is worse than the plant's owners are willing to admit.

It is some sheet material that they want to cover the plant with, to minimize releases of radioactive gasses into the outside. In fact I think they will find it very difficult to achieve that. I dont think the end of the accident is in sight, he said.

There is no talk of people returning to their homes within the exclusion zone any time soon, believes White, stressing that recently the Japanese government had placed a ban on returning to that area. What was a loose exclusion zone, where people were not allowed to stay but could travel in and out, has become a strict exclusion zone with fines being imposed for people returning there.

Asked if the Tokyo Electric Power Company was reliable, White replied, I would not be surprised about anything with TEPCO. There are many people in government who are closely affiliated with TEPCO one way or another, he stressed. And the bureaucracy has never been strictly monitoring them. There are few areas that are still uncertain and we think they might be covering up some details, but I think all of this will come out as time goes by. At this stage it is more a matter of the analysis that they put on their data, they minimize the seriousness in their statements, they dont fully wish to recognize just how serious is.

http://rt.com/news/no-end-fukushima-tragedy /


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robdogbucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-25-11 04:47 PM
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4. From that same page, Dr. Chris Busby chimes in:
Professor Christopher Busby, the Scientific Secretary of the European Committee on Radiation Risks, believes that the Japanese have been very lax in the way they evacuated people from the exclusion zone. He thinks that the zone should be expanded to a 60-70km radius.

Busby thinks that if a sarcophagus is put over Fukushima-1, the nuclear fuel might go underground and get washed away by the sea. The US has already started picking up contaminated material with high concentrations of uranium and plutonium washed up on its coastline, he says.

Christopher Busby also thinks that TEPCO has concealed the fact that one of the explosions at Fukushima was not a gas blast, but a nuclear reaction.

The nuclear industry has a history of duplicity and cover-up. I believe it probably was a nuclear explosion, not in the reactor, but in the tanks that contains the spent fuel. It seems almost certain now that there was some kind of nuclear explosion in the tank that contained the plutonium fuel rods. Anyone who saw that enormous explosion on the video would not have believed that it was a hydrogen explosion, says Busby.

http://rt.com/news/no-end-fukushima-tragedy /


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hlthe2b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-25-11 04:50 PM
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5. I've stopped commenting on these threads and just K&R instead...
Since I have run out of words to express my concern, frustration, confusion, and horror. :shrug:
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snagglepuss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-25-11 07:10 PM
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8. My sentiments exactly :(
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robdogbucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-25-11 04:55 PM
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6. URGENT: Japan now admits Fukushima at 154 trillion Bq's/Day and West coast Radiation forecast,Part1
Amazingly informative YouTube 10-minute or so video presentation:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H2wLbwuJeMM&feature=shar...

"Maybe you don't want that chest X-Ray..."

As if we had a choice about radiation coming on the winds. This Canadian video also cites that the Canadian government has moved the radiation monitors from Vacouver inland to Kamloops. Not pretty on the West Coast, especially B.C.


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tnlefty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-25-11 06:20 PM
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7. K & R, as this has dropped off the M$M radar, and
isn't being talked about anymore, as the disaster in the GOM. Shills are now all over two sites that I visit to just get news so I am more than amused with your, "Shill comments can be inserted in the anal aperture" remark.
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robdogbucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-25-11 07:44 PM
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9. More news
Tokyo Dims Lights, Still Pretty Bright
By Jen Phillips
| Mon Apr. 25, 2011 1:39 PM PDT.

Tokyoites, like residents of many big cities, are used to bright nights. In the wake of the failure of the Fukushima nuclear plant and power station, Tokyo is trying to save electricity. For example, in subway tunnels, only one of every three ceiling lights is being lit, and the huge, bustling Shinjuku area of downtown Tokyo has many signs left dark. But despite these cuts, one news station shows that even at current levels, Tokyo is just as bright as London. In general, Tokyoites are used to much brighter (and more) lights than Londoners.

Above, you can see a NASA map of Japan and London from space at night. Despite having comparable populations of around 12 million, London and Tokyo look different from space. Tokyo looks brighter, though that could be because of Japan's overall higher population density. The people in Tokyo interviewed in the video say that they're okay with things being a little darker than before, and Londoners seem fine with their slightly darker city. So perhaps going forward, Japan could consider reducing its non-essential electricity use. This could be particularly true in the case of hot, humid, Tokyo summers, when overall energy use increases as residents turn to air conditioning and fans to cool down. Some Tokyoites, stuck after the earthquake disrupted train service, have already switched to non-electric forms of transportation like bicycles that would remain unaffected by rolling blackouts.

As a side note, I remain encouraged that the situation in Japan will improve and later this year (with any luck) Tokyoites will have a life that more closely resembles normal. If anything, at least when a Japanese company like Tepco suffers a huge disaster, they cut executive pay rather than give them bonuses for "the best year in safety performance in our company's history" like Transocean did after the BP spill.

h/t JapanProbe

http://motherjones.com/blue-marble/2011/04/tokyo-conser...



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robdogbucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-25-11 07:52 PM
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10. Gunderson urges exam of Fukushima before any more licensing here
Fairewinds Calls for the Nuclear Regulatory Commission to Delay Licensing Until Fukushima Lessons Are Evaluated

Another great 8:27 video message from Arne:

http://www.fairewinds.com/updates


Gundersen implores Congress and NRC to think outside the box. Pause licensing of new nukes and 20-year-life extensions until the lessons learned from Fukushima are applied. Fairewinds Associates recommends that regulators look at the feasibility of emergency evacuation plans, containment leakage, and aging management plans for 40-year-old Fukushima model reactors.


Worst case scenario not realistic:

"...Those stacks just didn't work..."



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marions ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-25-11 08:14 PM
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12. sensible recommendations...
:thumbsup:
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-25-11 07:56 PM
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11. the industry shills have not come though
good on the preemtive
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Liberal_in_LA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-25-11 08:14 PM
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13. Thaks for the update
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dmr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-25-11 08:21 PM
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14. Locking -
We're going to lock because of your last comment aimed toward our DU members.

Please feel free to repost without the insult.

Thank you,
dmr
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