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LetTimmySmoke Donating Member (970 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-25-11 01:50 PM
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More Polls Show Shift on Same-Sex Marriage
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http://scienceblogs.com/dispatches/2011/04/more_polls_s...

This is now the 4th or 5th poll in recent months showing majority support for equal marriage rights. We have to put a Prop-8 repeal on the ballot for 2012. Given how much opinions have changed in the last 3 years, it's got a good shot. But we need an organized, professional, and UNIFIED campaign.

It would also be nice if the white house occupant took a stronger position "Well, I think marriage is between a man and a woman, but I'm still against prop 8, but you know, I wrestle with the issue, and I think both sides are right. Please vote for me everyone."



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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-25-11 01:55 PM
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1. Your greatest ally isn't a unified campaign, it's TIME
combined with the fact that the sky has not fallen in any state or country that has equalized the right to marry. Straights have not gotten divorced in increased numbers and fools are still rushing in to matrimony in the same number they always did.

All the hyperbole from the pulpit is sounding more and more hollow.
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LetTimmySmoke Donating Member (970 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-25-11 02:04 PM
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2. I think time and changing attitudes are what's helping the campaign to become more unified.
Now that supporting equal marriage has become "respectable," there's a bigger push to unify and organize the campaign more because there's now a real percentage in it. It's one thing if you're in the year 2000, opposing prop 22, and you know in your heart of hearts that your side is going to lose this one. But now, marriage equality looks within reach. For example, in New York, Governor Cuomo has organized a professional, unified campaign to get marriage equality through the NY legislature. You couldn't get that put together if popular support was only 30%, as opposed to the 57% in NY State today.

PS - This change is happening way too fast to be accounted for by young people becoming voters and old people dying off. The change in the last three years is mainly due to people actually changing their minds.

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Bluenorthwest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-25-11 02:14 PM
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3. Time is no human's ally.
To think that it is requires extreme youth or deep denial.
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LetTimmySmoke Donating Member (970 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-25-11 02:20 PM
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5. No, but time is often necessary to effect change.
That said, you have to DO SOMETHING with your time. During the last decade, we have spent a lot of time making the argument for marriage equality. It took time for minds to change, but it did happen and is still happening.

I know people complained at Gavin Newsom over the marriages in 2004 and how it supposedly helped the Lesser Bush to get re-elected, but his acts also contributed to the more positive attitudes you see today.
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Bluenorthwest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-25-11 02:15 PM
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4. dupe
Edited on Mon Apr-25-11 02:16 PM by Bluenorthwest
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