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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-25-11 09:06 AM
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Glenn Greenwald: Massive Gitmo WikiLeaks Disclosure; U.S. Media Presentation Bias "Stark, Revealing"
Edited on Mon Apr-25-11 09:11 AM by Hissyspit
http://mobile.salon.com/news/opinion/glenn_greenwald/20...

MON, 25 APR 2011 03:26:00 ET

Newly leaked documents show the ongoing travesty of Guantanamo
A massive WikiLeaks disclosure sheds new light on the lack of credible evidence against detainees


BY GLENN GREENWALD

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The documents reveal vast new information about these detainees and, in particular, the shoddy and unreliable nature of the evidence used (both before and now) to justify their due-process-free detentions. There are several points worth noting about all this:

(1) Given that multiple media outlets have just published huge amounts of classified information, it is more difficult than ever to distinguish between WikiLeaks and, say, the NYT or the Post under the law. How could anyone possibly justify prosecuting WikiLeaks for disseminating classified information while not prosecuting these newspapers who have done exactly the same thing? If Dianne Feinstein, the DOJ and Newt Gingrich are eager to prosecute WikiLeaks for espionage and they are how can that not also sweep up these media outlets?

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(3) The difference among the various newspapers in how these leaks are being presented is stark, predictable and revealing. The Guardian emphasizes exactly what is most important about these documents: how oppressive is this American detention system, how unreliable the evidence is on which the accusations are based, and how so many people were put in cages for years without any justification:

On its front page, the Telegraph trumpets the more than 150 innocent people held at the U.S. prison." The NYT, by stark contrast, emphasizes how Dangerous and Menacing these Evil Terrorists are shown to be (while at least noting underneath that many were held without cause):
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snot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-25-11 09:43 AM
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1. K&R'd.
Go, Glenn!
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-25-11 09:48 AM
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2. Here is the article he mentions by Marcy Wheeler.
From Empty Wheel. I will be listening tonight to her and others concerning the latest on Manning.
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Smarmie Doofus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-25-11 09:55 AM
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3. This part's worth thinking really hard about:
>>Those condemning these disclosures consisting of the now-familiar union of Bush neocons and the hardest-core Obama followers are saying, in essence, that it would be far better if we had remained ignorant about the extreme unreliability of the evidence justifying these detentions, and that it would be preferable if the evidence showing the extreme injustice of continuing to imprison people there without so much as charging them with any crimes continued to be concealed.>>>>>


It's hard to believe that anyone here *really* thinks these kinds of ... errhhhh... "state secrets" should "continue to be concealed."

Come on, now.


K and R
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-25-11 10:37 AM
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8. Oh, they're here all right
There are indeed folks here at DU who think that we proles deserve nothing more than what our overlords give us. Who get quite upset that anyone might doubt the inerrant word of our military and its intelligence apparatus. And who no doubt make assiduous notes about just who here would take the word of the grieving survivors of a robot attack over the official pronouncements of those who fired the missiles.
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-25-11 10:02 AM
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4. Recommend
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-25-11 10:04 AM
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5. K &R for truth n/t
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Luminous Animal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-25-11 10:15 AM
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6. The U.S. military and government responds (with bullshit)...
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/04/25/world/guantanamo-file...

It is unfortunate that The New York Times and other news organizations have made the decision to publish numerous documents obtained illegally by Wikileaks concerning the Guantanamo detention facility. These documents contain classified information about current and former GTMO detainees, and we strongly condemn the leaking of this sensitive information.

...

Both the previous and the current Administrations have made every effort to act with the utmost care and diligence in transferring detainees from Guantanamo. The previous Administration transferred 537 detainees; to date, the current Administration has transferred 67. Both Administrations have made the protection of American citizens the top priority and we are concerned that the disclosure of these documents could be damaging to those efforts. That said, we will continue to work with allies and partners around the world to mitigate threats to the U.S. and other countries and to work toward the ultimate closure of the Guantanamo detention facility, consistent with good security practices and our values as a nation.



When is Holder going to hint at a grand jury investigation into the NY Times?
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Luminous Animal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-25-11 02:05 PM
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13. Catapulting the propaganda, the military blames Wikileaks even though the NY Times
received the cables from another source.

http://twitter.com/#!/PentagonPresSec/status/6253176234...

Thx to Wikileaks we spent Easter weekend dealing w/NYT & other news orgs publishing leaked classified GTMO docs http://1.usa.gov/fWbGED
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bvar22 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-25-11 10:26 AM
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7. Land of the Free, Home of the Brave,
Blah, Blah, Blah.




Who will STAND and FIGHT for THIS American Majority?
"By their WORKS you will know them,"


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Better Believe It Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-25-11 10:48 AM
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9. K & R
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-25-11 11:14 AM
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10. K&R
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Luminous Animal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-25-11 12:15 PM
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11. Kick.
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marmar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-25-11 12:17 PM
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12. I just watched another prime example of it on WGN News a few moments ago.....
..... they reported on the WikiLeaks drop, but only on reports that more attacks were being planned after 9/11. Nothing about this.


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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-25-11 03:24 PM
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14. They are doing their duty which isn't journalism.
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freshwest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-25-11 10:52 PM
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15. Thanks, excellent. Liberal media my foot.
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Major Hogwash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-25-11 10:55 PM
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16. Did the NYT include another graphic of the terrorist's cave dwellings? Ya know, like the Batcave.
Complete with batcomputers, and batdevices of mass destruction near the batcycle and batmobile.

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amyrose2712 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-11 08:31 AM
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17. K&R^100000000
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