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louslobbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-11 03:22 PM
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Who is Tim Pawlenty? He's very secretive that's for sure, but if elected to the Presidency, would
he be a President of all of the people and with his history of

secrecy, would transparency in government take another hit?


Tim Pawlenty is not really that well-known yet. The governor of

Minnesota is an evangelical Christian who loves rock music and

fishing. Republican strategist Vin Weber calls him an ethical

"Eagle Scout" who has trouble building a political

organization for that very reason. The son of a truck driver

and a housewife, Pawlenty started school to become a dentist

but found the classes too hard.

Quotes

"I have a wife who genuinely loves to fish. I mean, she will

take the lead and ask me to go out fishing, and joyfully comes

here. She loves football, she'll go to hockey games and, I

jokingly say, 'Now, if I could only get her to have sex with

me.'" -- Pawlenty

"Children who are victims of failed personal responsibility

are not my problem, nor are they the problem for our

government." -- Pawlenty, April 2001

"I'm an evangelical Christian. I believe that God created

everything and that he is who he says he was. The Bible says

that he created man and woman; it doesn't say that he created

an amoeba and then they evolved into man and woman. But there

are a lot of theologians who say that the ideas of evolution

and creationism aren't necessarily inconsistent; that he could

have "created" human beings over time." - Pawlenty

"It's like Tiger Woods' wife, we should take a nine iron to

the back windshield of big government spending and smash it

out." - Pawlenty



-- Quote Sources
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Mismanagement of State Government

Pawlenty's only real claim to being qualified to be president

is his stint as governor of Minnesota (which puts him on a par

with Jesse Ventura, except that Tim lacks military or

pro-wrestling experience). His actual record as governor is

not that good.

Most infamously, an interstate freeway bridge collapsed on his

watch, after years of budget cuts and politicization of the

transportation department. Furthermore, two different state

department heads had to quit after stalling state

investigations into health risks of corporate pollution.

Dianne Mandernach, Pawlentys Department of Health

commissioner, had to resign in August of 2007 after it was

revealed that she had suppressed a cancer study pertaining to

Iron Range miners for more than a year -- and tipped off a big

mining company a week before finally announcing it. And Sheryl

Corrigan, a 3M executive who Pawlenty named as commissioner of

the Minnesota Pollution Control Agency, resigned in June 2006

after a whistleblower lawsuit was filed alleging she

stonewalled department inquiries into a class of chemicals

manufactured by 3M.


There are probably more scandals as big or bigger, but

Pawlenty has aggressively worked to keep government records

secret, let's just say he's not big on transparency.

While Jesse Ventura was open, even with documents that

showed his government in a bad light, Pawlenty applied a

highly restrictive interpretation of the state's open record

law -- declaring that only the final decisions by his

government needed to be made public, not any of the memos,

emails or white papers used in developing that final decision.

Since the government inevitably announces its final decisions

to the press anyway, this decision essentially made everything

in state government, suddenly secret. But as we've seen, there

is no question that he has much to hide, after all he is a Republicon. -- Sources


Secret $50,000 Payoff

In 2003, during his first term as governor, Pawlenty admitted

that he accepted $54,000 in cash from a friend and colleague

named Elam Baer, and could not document any work he did in

exchange for this cash. It may have been technically legal;

there is a loophole in Minnesota donation laws for independent

contracting payments. But it smells to high heaven.

Elam Baer says that Pawlenty was a "consultant" to his

company, and was paid $4,500 per month ($54,000/year) for his

part-time work. Asked what he did, Pawlenty said he couldn't

remember how much time he spent working for Baer, and that his

consulting contract prevented him showing examples of his

work. Elam Baer is actually an owner of 3 companies; Access

Anywhere (which paid Pawlenty), Holdings (which Pawlenty

invested in), and New Access, a subsidiary of NewTel.

New Access, a telecommunications company, has been accused of

unscrupulous actions in 7 states -- including Minnesota --

such as "slamming" - signing up people for your telecom

company without their permission. While he can't say what

Pawlenty did for him, Elam Baer does say: "I think I got good

value for what I paid." -- Sources

Sources

"Pawlenty Tees Off on Tiger Woods," by Tom Scheck, Minnesota

Public Radio, February 4, 2010

Quote Sources -- Back

"The Case Against Pawlenty,", By Chris Cillizza, Washington

Post, June 20, 2008

Minnesota Governor Tim Pawlenty Jokes His Wife Won't Have Sex

With Him by Katherine Zaleski, Huffington Post, May 12, 2008

"Tim Pawlenty Gets No Respect", by Howard Fineman, Newsweek,

December 21, 2009

10 Things You Didn't Know About Tim Pawlenty", by Danielle

Burton, U.S. News and Business Report, May 22, 2008

"Pawlenty Tees Off on Tiger Woods," by Tom Scheck, Minnesota

Public Radio, February 4, 2010



Mismanagement Sources -- Back

"What We Don't Know Can't Hurt Him," by Steve Perry, The

Minnesota Independent, 7/7/08



Secret $50,000 Payment Sources -- Back

"What Hearings? What Scandal?", By Britt Robson, Citypages,

Vol. 24 #1181, pages 20-21, July 23, 2003

"Candidate Pawlenty kept business pursuits in background,"

Minnesota Public Radio, July 17, 2003

Lou

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The Velveteen Ocelot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-11 03:30 PM
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1. Watch out for Timmy the Tool, as we call him here.
He seems like one of those nice, clean-cut, aw-shucks sorts of guys, but he's as mean as a snake and will do anything he has to do to advance his political career. And that includes pandering to the worst of the teabaggers. I think he's avoided the birther thing, but only because he's smart enough to realize that it's a losing issue. If he were still Governor he'd have continued to fuck up Minnesota by doing the same things Scott Walker is doing to Wisconsin. He doesn't think rich people should pay taxes to help the sick, the elderly, poor children who go to shitty schools and can't afford school lunches, or to build roads and bridges -- remember the I-35W bridge collapse? Fortunately, Timmy has all the charisma of a tree sloth, so his chances probably aren't very good. But still -- watch out for him. He's sneaky and he's got some money behind him.
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louslobbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-11 03:37 PM
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2. Oh yes, I've already got his number Velveteen, he's a fake, phony and fraud, lacks integrity, and
plays the "being a Republicon" game, better than most. I love your post and thanks for commenting, I see you are a critical thinker who doesn't let them pull the wool over your eyes, I'm the same way.
Lou
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Raschel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-11 04:32 PM
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14. Steven Colbert says that Tim was made from manila envelopes.
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louslobbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-11 04:36 PM
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16. That sounds right, after all, you can't see through them to see what's inside, but if you are not
careful, the thickness of the opening flap can give you quite a paper cut. Thanks for the comment.
Lou
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Raschel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-11 04:53 PM
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20. Well I think he was referring to Pawlenty's blandness.
:hi:
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louslobbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-11 05:15 PM
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22. lol, yeah I got that, I just wanted to add my play on it, thanks.
Lou
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Raschel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-25-11 09:17 AM
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28. Doh! I knew it! As usual, I was the slow one....
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Raschel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-11 04:30 PM
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13. A tree sloth...
:rofl:
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louslobbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-11 04:36 PM
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17. LOL
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Brickbat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-11 03:42 PM
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3. He is the worst of the worst. Affable, smart enough to keep his mouth shut, and just plain mean.
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louslobbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-11 04:00 PM
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5. Those are the ones that frighten me the most, likable and smart enough to keep his mouth shut and
not bring attention to what he is doing. All of that goes out the window once you run for President, and that meanness, will start to show up big time when all of the questions (that he doesn't have to answer now) start pummeling him and begin to get to him. We will all see the real Timmy at some point if he runs, and it won't be pretty, just enlightening. His lack of transparency also tells me a lot about him. What is it that Mr. Pawlenty is trying to hide?
Lou
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-11 03:55 PM
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4. "Children who are victims of failed personal responsibility are not my problem"
Gee, that kind of contradicts the next quote from him about being a "Christian." I guess he reads the Revised Selfish Version of the Bible that says, "Widows, orphans and the poor? Fuck 'em!" Hezekiah 4:14.
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louslobbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-11 04:03 PM
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7. LOL, they are always contradicting themselves and as for being a "Christian", thats just his story
My guess, lol, is the same as yours, the "Revised Selfish Version" of the Bible.......I'll let your comment stand on it's own lol.
Lou
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Blue-Jay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-11 04:02 PM
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6. Did you C&P that from somewhere, or do you just like to hit 'Enter' at random intervals?
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louslobbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-11 04:05 PM
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8. I have a varied posting style depending on my mood. I try to make things easier to read.
Lou
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louslobbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-11 04:08 PM
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9. Also, I never post directly to DU, I write out everything I want to say on notepad, then copy it to
Edited on Sun Apr-24-11 04:10 PM by louslobbs
DU. Note pad helps, so I can stop and save if I'm interrupted and go back later and continue and then post to DU when I'm finished.
Lou
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Blue-Jay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-11 04:10 PM
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10. Well.
I gue


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that.

Carry on.
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louslobbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-11 04:20 PM
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11. Thanks for your permission, don't know what I would have done without it, by the way you sound as if
Your feathers are ruffled Blue Jay, maybe a nice birdbath is in order. Wipe off some of that condescending snark you display. Or maybe a snipping of your wings. People like you, never cease to amaze me.
Lou
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louslobbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-11 04:22 PM
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12. One more thing bird brain, if you don't like the way I post, then don't read them.
Lou
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Blue-Jay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-11 04:34 PM
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15. Thanks, I won't.
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louslobbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-11 04:38 PM
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18. Good, now back to your filthy nest that I see you got up on the wrong side of this Easter morn lol
Lou
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Blue-Jay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-11 04:49 PM
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19. One more bird-related insult and you will go down in history as
Some Random Person Who Said Some Stuff.

Maybe you could suggest that I poop on cars or something? I haven't seen such poor attempts at insults since Crazio_Lady got banned.
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louslobbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-11 05:14 PM
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21. You don't even have enough integrity to be your own word, last I heard, you weren't going to read
my posts. You must be drawn to me for some reason. Do me a favor, be your word and don't read or respond to my posts. I'm actually on your side, but your way of being forces me to confront you and I really don't get a lot of enjoyment out of calling out idiots on our side. I'd rather spend my time and efforts going after the enemy which up until now you have not been. So let's call a truce and go on about the business of outing the other side for their lies, distortions and hypocrisy.
Lou
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louslobbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-11 05:16 PM
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24. By the way, the pooping on cars thing had crossed my mind lol.....thanks
Lou
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Odin2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-11 05:15 PM
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23. Timmy the Tool fucked up my great state, that's for sure, ya betcha!
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louslobbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-11 05:18 PM
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25. I hear ya, Also, Autistic Pride! right on........Thanks for the comment
Lou
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spedtr90 Donating Member (459 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-11 06:16 PM
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27. Uff da!
You got that right, don't cha know.
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spedtr90 Donating Member (459 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-11 06:14 PM
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26. did his best to muck up education (link)
http://motherjones.com/politics/2011/04/tim-pawlenty-ed...

"In the meetings, conservatives successfully argued that sharing was an inappropriate concept for kindergartners because of its creeping "socialist" implications."


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