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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-11 08:33 AM
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Could we stop with the nasty bashing of Easter and Christ for just a bit?
There are DUers for whom this holiday means something. I haven't seen any cracks about Passover. I can't imagine the people making these jabs would do so about any other religion on that faith's holiest day of the year.

And to all who are celebrating this day, may it be a fruitful and peaceful one.

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MorningGlow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-11 08:34 AM
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1. +1
Happy Easter to all Christian DUers! :hi:
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Obamanaut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-11 08:35 AM
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2. Very nice. Thank you. and 'rec' nt
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pnwmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-11 08:36 AM
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3. You're right. It doesn't happen on Muslim or Jewish holy days.
But many DUers love to mock the Christian holy days.
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ThomWV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-11 08:37 AM
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5. You're right, they'll burn a Koran any day of the year.
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pnwmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-11 08:39 AM
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7. Christians won't -- just that creepy band of Phelps followers.
You don't blame all Muslims for what the 9/11 attackers did. Why blame all Christians for what a few individuals do?
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ThomWV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-11 08:41 AM
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11. Isn't that a Baptist Church that Pastor Phelps is running down there?
Edited on Sun Apr-24-11 08:42 AM by ThomWV
I believe that Baptists count as Christians too - don't they?
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pnwmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-11 08:44 AM
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16. All Christians aren't responsible for what a few individuals
who call themselves Christians do -- any more than all Muslims are responsible for the actions of a few individuals who call themselves Muslim.
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dems_rightnow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-11 08:47 AM
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21. No it's not a Baptist Church
He co-opted the name, but that doesn't make it a Baptist Church any more than naming it Westboro Gymnasium would make it a basketball court.
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Obamanaut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-11 08:41 AM
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10. I thought DUers were against Koran burning. nt
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blueamy66 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-11 09:02 AM
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35. I'm a Catholic
I'm going to Mass today.

I don't plan on burning a Koran today or any day in the near future.

Put your brush away.
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krispos42 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-11 09:10 AM
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46. Well, Islamic or Judaic religious philosophy isn't the underpinning...
...of one of the major political parties and tells of millions of their members, either.

There is essentially zero chance of a devout Muslim- or Jew-dominated political party rising up and becoming one of the two parties in our system of government. There is zero chance that a massive federation Muslims or Jews will rise to popular political prominence on a platform of bringing the US Constitution and Federal, State, and Local governmental organizations more in line with the Qur'an or the Torah.


It's not the religious views of Muslims or Jews that seek to suppress the rights of women, or religious indoctrination in school curriculums, or war in the Middle East as a path to Salvation, or to support and defend ruthless, unfettered capitalism as a sign of Divine Preference.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-11 08:37 AM
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Buzz Clik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-11 08:46 AM
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19. Well, your string ended.
Enjoy your day search for inconsistencies in human behavior. It won't be hard. Start here: "I have not made a crack about Easter though. But if today is such a holy day for Christians, then I would think they would be spending the day celebrating and not reading meaningless, snarky replies about it on the internet."
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notadmblnd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-11 09:16 AM
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57. Did I say I was searching for inconsistencies in human behavior?
Edited on Sun Apr-24-11 09:26 AM by notadmblnd
And it wasn't a crack about Easter or Christ. It was a crack about Christians if you want to read it that way. So why aren't all the devout Christians in church listening to the Easter service right now? Could it be that the word of God isn't as important to them as reading snarky comments and complaining about it on the internet? I stand by what I said.

Oh and Jesus was a Jew. If he were alive, he would have been celebrating passover, not Easter.
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xmas74 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-11 09:57 AM
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89. I'm not there because I have a sick child.
She's napping at this time, zonked out from her meds. If she was well we would have been at sunrise service.

I don't make cracks at other religions. I'd never dream of doing so.
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michaz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-11 10:07 AM
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93. Some of us went to the Easter Vigil Mass last night. So does that explain
to you why some of us might be able to be on here today? Not that it is any of your business.
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notadmblnd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-11 10:24 AM
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99. So complaining here is more important than celebrating your holy day?
so much so, that you got it out of the way last night.
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MrMickeysMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-11 09:02 AM
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33. Right on!
Now... On to enjoying the chocolate before me!
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QC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-11 08:37 AM
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6. Unfortunately, those threads are something of a DU tradition. n/t
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Glorfindel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-11 08:40 AM
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8. Recommend
That needed to be said, and you said it just right. :hi:
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dems_rightnow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-11 08:40 AM
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9. More importantly, there are VOTERS
to whom this day has meaning. Open hostility toward their beliefs is not in the best interest of progressives.
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boston bean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-11 08:43 AM
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14. jesus would be proud! nt
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MNBrewer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-11 09:12 AM
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49. Open hostility toward THEIR belief?????
:wow:
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onehandle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-11 09:18 AM
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60. A very good point. nt
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pintobean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-11 08:42 AM
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12. Excellent post.
I'm not a religious person, but I respect other people's faith.

btw - Accidentally unrecced, instead of reccing. Sorry.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-11 08:43 AM
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13. no problem.
I do that from time to time.

:hi:
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MineralMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-11 08:43 AM
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15. Yes, please.
I'm an atheist, but I don't mind if others aren't. I see no point in ridiculing people who celebrate a religious holiday.
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retread Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-11 08:44 AM
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17. No longer mock the official state religion?? And while we're at it stop saying bad things about
Edited on Sun Apr-24-11 08:46 AM by retread
Capitalism!!
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pintobean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-11 08:49 AM
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23. Official state religion?
Got a link?
:rofl:
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backscatter712 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-11 09:06 AM
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41. The Republicans seem to think Christianity is the official state religion.
Despite our attempts to educate them otherwise, they insist on it.
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TheCowsCameHome Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-11 08:45 AM
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18. Thank you, cali.
Happy Easter to you.
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Buzz Clik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-11 08:46 AM
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20. +1
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Taitertots Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-11 08:48 AM
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22. We could but we wont and shouldn't have to
Don't expect other people to give christian mythology special treatment.
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msongs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-11 08:51 AM
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25. Some prefer the birthday of Santa Claus in December :-) nt
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MineralMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-11 08:56 AM
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27. Ah, but attacking the holiday is giving it special treatment.
The irony is lovely today.

If you are not a believer, why would you care?

I reserve my criticism of Christianity for those individuals and organization that think they should tell me what to do. For them, I have contempt. For the religion as a whole, I don't care what people believe or what they celebrate. It doesn't hurt me in any way.
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The Velveteen Ocelot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-11 09:01 AM
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32. You are in good company:
"It does me no injury for my neighbor to say there are twenty gods or no God. It neither picks my pocket nor breaks my leg." -Thomas Jefferson, Notes on Virginia, 1782
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MineralMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-11 09:14 AM
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55. Yes. He was a very smart man, and understood very well.
A guy has to have a lot of respect for Thomas Jefferson!
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Taitertots Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-11 09:03 AM
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36. Ok, don't expect people to give it the special treatment that christians want
I don't care what people believe, but if it is humorous mythology than I'm going to take part in mocking it. If they have a problem with it, than it is their problem.
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MineralMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-11 09:10 AM
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47. Hmm...
To what end will you mock it? Why bother. You'll affect nobody who believes that stuff, but you'll lower the opinions of those who might otherwise agree with you.

Like me. Mockery of people who do you no particular harm is nothing more than bullying. I have zero respect for bullies. See ya.
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Taitertots Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-11 09:25 AM
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67. I'm not going to censor myself to fit the ideological demands of religious zealots
I'm going to mock anyone whose beliefs are deserving of mockery. Criticism of foolish beliefs is not bullying; Censorship of criticism is bullying.
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MineralMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-11 09:29 AM
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68. You will do as you please, I suppose.
That does not require my consent. I will, however, form an opinion of what you do. That does not require your consent.

Since I cannot censor anything, that part of your post is completely irrelevant.
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Taitertots Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-11 10:26 AM
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100. You are not going to censor anything, but there are people who demand that others censor themselves
Hence "I'm not going to censor myself". We should never have to censor ourselves due to the ideological demands of religious zealots.
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MineralMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-11 10:38 AM
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104. Nobody can "demand" that you do anything.
They can request it, but that's all. You may do as you please, as long as you don't break the rules of the place you're posting. Others can request what they please, as long as they're not breaking those same rules. So, there are no demands that you "censor yourself." You're free to post any stupid, insensitive thing you wish.

As for religious zealots, the person who started this thread is nothing of the sort. Nor am I. I'm an atheist and have no religious beliefs of any kind. I'm also a person who believes that people should not be mocked for what they believe, as long as they're not telling me that I must believe as they do.

So, you go right ahead and post any nonsense you like. If I disagree with it, I may choose to post my disagreement. That's not a demand. That's discussion.


Enjoy your day, if you can.
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Zhade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-11 09:40 AM
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75. This. So this.
Exactly right. Believing in things without evidence can be deadly. Just ask the Iraqi people.
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scarletwoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-11 08:51 AM
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24. No. Satire is not "bashing". Imo, religious beliefs being treated as off-limits
for humorous deconstruction is one of the big problems with this country.

Believe what you want to believe, but stop expecting that it should afford you some sort of immunity from satire just because it's "religious".

sw
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-11 08:56 AM
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28. I don't practice Christianity
and you would never see people taking the kind of digs I've seen here today, at Mohammed, if this was Ramadan. It's really not too hard to be tolerant for a day.
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MineralMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-11 08:59 AM
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31. I guess it's too hard for some, though.
I never did figure that out.
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backscatter712 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-11 09:09 AM
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45. You mean I'm not allowed to post Pedobear Mohammed pictures?
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-11 09:13 AM
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51. I don't know. I'm not a mod
but I don't care for it.
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scarletwoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-11 09:31 AM
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69. Islam is not the de facto "official" religion in this country. If it were, I would hope it would
be just as much a target for satire as Christianity.

I refuse to give some sort of special pass to "religious" beliefs, any more than I would give a pass to any other sorts of beliefs, like supply side economics.

What makes religious belief some sort of special case? Why should it be granted special immunity? It's a human construct like any other human construct.

sw

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tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-11 09:49 AM
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83. Exactly. I have suffered under Christianity, until I was old enough
to move out of my parents' home. I have watched it corrupt our politics. It has earned its ridicule and we should be free to express our opinions of it.
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Fuzz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-11 09:02 AM
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34. Totally agree. I think my 'Did Jesus see his shadow?' post may have been one
that inspired this post.

The reason I mock Christianity mostly is because that is what I personally was exposed to growing up. I honestly don't know as much about other religions to mock them with the same amount of humor. When I do, it's more of a fuck that, kind of thing with perhaps some humor at the particular situation.

Religious beliefs are not subject to a free pass from criticism or humorous jabs. If you are truly a believer, a joke or two shouldn't change that. As a atheist I've been treated and called names much worse, and it's par for the course.
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GoneOffShore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-11 09:09 AM
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44. If he see's his shadow, it's six more weeks of no chocolate.

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Fuzz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-11 10:45 AM
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110. Crap, I got it wrong again. Can't keep up with the lore.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-11 09:14 AM
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54. nope. it wasn't any one op
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The Velveteen Ocelot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-11 08:55 AM
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26. Unfortunately, because Christianity's lunatic fringe has become
Edited on Sun Apr-24-11 08:56 AM by The Velveteen Ocelot
what a lot of people here think of when "Christians" are mentioned, there is a tendency to retaliate by bashing the entire religion - just like some other people bash all Muslims because of the behavior of a small fringe group. Yes, I know there are also some who think any belief in any religion is lunacy, but the reality is that more people are religious than are not. And to mock the sincere beliefs of others, even if you think they're crazy, silly, irrational, etc., is unkind and illiberal.

Since I'm not at church this morning you can assume I'm not a believer; at least, not in the magic part, but I do think Jesus (or whoever became the source of the legends about him) was an enlightened being. Easter was originally a pagan holiday that celebrated the return of spring, and rabbits and eggs are fertility symbols. It's all good. Happy Easter.
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MineralMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-11 08:58 AM
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29. The very name "Easter" evokes pagan fertility celebrations.
Same root as "estrus." It's a religious holiday, whatever it's called. Let those who believe such things celebrate as they choose. It does none of us any harm.

Save the sarcasm for those who claim to follow Jesus, but who behave in ways that Jesus would condemn. Not all Christians fit into that category, by a long shot.
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The Velveteen Ocelot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-11 09:03 AM
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37. Exactly.
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MorningGlow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-11 08:59 AM
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30. Very well said
:thumbsup:
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Bill McBlueState Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-11 09:04 AM
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38. thanks for policing the board
I don't know what we'd do without your frequent reminders of what should or shouldn't be said.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-11 09:07 AM
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42. I'm not policing the board- obviously.
I'm not preventing you or anyone else from saying what they wish to say- nor can I or would I want to.

Happy Easter or Spring or whatever.
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hootinholler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-11 09:15 AM
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56. +1 n/t
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MineralMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-11 09:16 AM
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58. Asking DUers for a little forbearance is not "policing the board."
It is a request. You need not follow that request. Only the moderators and administrators of DU can do any policing. That's their job. The rest of us can only post.
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HysteryDiagnosis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-11 09:05 AM
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39. K&R. n/t
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lamp_shade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-11 09:05 AM
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40. Thank you. K&R
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DCBob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-11 09:08 AM
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43. Yes, I agree. Its ugly, intollerant and ignorant.
Since when did being a Progressive mean being anti-Christian?
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-11 09:11 AM
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48. I don't know, but it's gotten ridculously broad brush around here.
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MineralMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-11 09:12 AM
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50. Being anti-religion is not progressive behavior.
Edited on Sun Apr-24-11 09:12 AM by MineralMan
It's just stupidity, which is also not a progressive trait. Those who mock others' beliefs are not clever.
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coalition_unwilling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-11 10:42 AM
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109. I'm an atheist (hard-core materialist\Marxist). But from the 1920s and 30s through the 60s, some
Edited on Sun Apr-24-11 10:47 AM by coalition_unwilling
of the greatest progressives also happened to be Christians. I'm thinking specifically of Reinhold Niebuhr ("The Nature and Destiny of Man") and Michael Harrington ("The Other America"). Right about the time of Reagan's advent (npi), Christianity for me seemed to stop being a progressive force and instead switched to being a reactionary one (a la The Moral Majority, Pat Roberston, Jerry Falwell, et. al). Perhaps not fair and I know there are progressive strands within mainstream American Christianity even today, but that's when being Progressive started to mean being anti-Christian, at least for me.

On edit: Some triggered memories come from having written this. Why do I say it became 'reactionary'? Perhaps in response to the gay liberation movement of the late 60s and early 70s, people self-identified as Christians openly advocating the most virulent forms of homophobia to me, including gathering all homosexuals (gays and lesbians) together to burn them alive. And this from a religion that's supposed to celebrate a covenant of 'love'?
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Bluerthanblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-11 09:14 AM
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52. Thank you Cali- wishing you a wonderful day-
Yesterdays snow is gone, and the sun is shining here in NH.

:hi:
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Chorophyll Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-11 09:14 AM
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53. K&R. Happy Easter to those who celebrate.
The people who twist Christianity into a narrow-minded "official" religion are at one extreme; the knee-jerk "mockers" are their mirror image.
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DCBob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-11 09:19 AM
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61. +1
well said.
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-11 10:36 AM
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103. +1. nt
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The Velveteen Ocelot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-11 09:17 AM
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59. Whether you believe or not - how can you not be just a little inspired by this?
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Heidi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-11 09:19 AM
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62. I'm an atheist but I see no reason to be mean to believers in the DU community.
Edited on Sun Apr-24-11 09:22 AM by Heidi
Recommended.

(Edited for typo)
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coalition_unwilling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-11 09:20 AM
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63. To all who are not celebrating Easter, may today be fertile (an homage
to the Pagan fertility rites that Christianity's Easter grafted itself onto :)

That's not a jab, is it?
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edhopper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-11 09:22 AM
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64. About Passover
Just read my thread here:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...

Yes we "bash" Passover too.
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GoneOffShore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-11 09:23 AM
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65. Perhaps the reason that people take pot shots at xtians instead of muslims is
because xtianity is the dominant religion in this country - also very few xtians know anything about islam so don't really know how to make jabs.

As an example from Dara O'Briain. Starts at 1:25.

And the obligatory passover joke -

If the Hebrews couldn't wait for the bread to rise, how come we serve slow cooked brisket at passover?


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JoePhilly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-11 09:24 AM
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66. I just want to know where the Bunny with the colored egss comes from ...
I checked the bible, and I can't find a bunny, or colored eggs.
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MineralMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-11 09:32 AM
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70. Holdover from the pagan spring fertility holiday.
Bunnies are popular fertility symbols, and with good reason. Eggs, too, are fertility symbols, for equally obvious reasons. The two are related only in their connection with reproductive capacity.

Christianity adopted lots of pagan symbols and holidays. It helped to convert the pagans to that new religion. It is that simple. So, we have Easter bunnies and eggs.
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JoePhilly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-11 09:44 AM
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80. Sure, but why HIDE the eggs?
... or color them?

Of course, in reality, not only are bunnies, eggs, Santa and Christmas trees modified pagan hold overs, the dates of these events are more likely tied to the pagan events.

The Southpark guys have done a pretty good job of trying to explain where the bunnies come from too.

They have an episode in which Saint Peter was actually a Rabbit, Peter Rabbit. And ever since then, the pope is a rabbit, and wears a pointed hat to cover his long bunny ears.
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MineralMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-11 10:00 AM
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92. Probably because most birds don't lay their eggs out in the open.
My best guess.
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PassingFair Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-11 09:35 AM
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71. I LOVE this post, from Miss Manners, the model of civility at DU....
Too rich.

:rofl:

"Can't we all just get along?"
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-11 09:41 AM
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77. nope. I hardly claim to be that
and it's really not a contradiction, nor am I suggesting that we all just get along.

Happy 'Easter.

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PassingFair Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-11 09:45 AM
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81. Oh, it's a contradiction alright.
Happy Eostre to you, too!

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Zhade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-11 09:37 AM
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72. Allow me to clarify something
Statement of fact: there is no extrabiblical evidence for Jesus' purported rising from the dead (or, indeed, his existence -- Josephus' alleged mention is a known forgery, even to biblical scholars).

Bashing: you're a bad person for believing he did.

Truth doesn't take the day off, and what better day than a religious holiday to speak truth when the subject is, ahem, raised?

I don't support bashing. I also don't support pretending something isn't ridiculous just becuase it's comforting to some.

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Davis_X_Machina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-11 09:37 AM
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73. It's a DU tradition..
Edited on Sun Apr-24-11 09:53 AM by Davis_X_Machina
..even though Voltaire's dead and buried these 200 years, there are still people who have just discovered the idea and consider attacking religion as something edgy, transgressive, and conducive towards building one's progressive cred.

Party like it's 1799, or something.
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-11 10:39 AM
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105. I wish I could recommend your last line.
:rofl:
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AmandaRuth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-11 09:37 AM
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74. +1
thank you cali.

I am not a believer, but there are plenty of liberal progressive Christians, my brother being one, so thanks.
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eowyn_of_rohan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-11 09:41 AM
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76. only 21 recs? niiiice. -nt
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A-Schwarzenegger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-11 09:42 AM
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78. Thanx.
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niyad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-11 09:42 AM
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79. is it okay if we point out that every single aspect of easter worship was stolen from the pagans??
as, indeed, all xian holiday observances are?
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DCBob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-11 09:51 AM
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84. That would be an interesting discussion... perhaps better in the religion forum.
I think the problem is with the bashing type posts which I am sure you have seen today.
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niyad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-11 09:54 AM
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87. actually, cali's is the only one I have seen.
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DCBob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-11 09:59 AM
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91. maybe they dropped off the main page.. there were several earlier this morning.
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Skidmore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-11 09:47 AM
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82. I must have slept through something. I see a lot of threads bashing
the President and trying to relabel.
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CountAllVotes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-11 09:52 AM
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85. Thank you
Edited on Sun Apr-24-11 09:58 AM by CountAllVotes
I'm planning on going to Mass today hopefully.

Happy Easter to you btw! :) and thanks again! :)

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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-11 09:53 AM
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86. i am not into religion, but du is looking pretty ugly and petty today.... nt
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Arkana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-11 09:54 AM
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88. I worship the Easter Bunny--y'all are a bunch of heathens to me anyway.
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Logical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-11 09:58 AM
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90. Nice post. If someone does not like Easter, just ignore it. n-t
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Warren Stupidity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-11 10:14 AM
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94. I'm celebrating by watching Shawn of the Dead
I am so down with zombies.
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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-11 10:15 AM
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95. Oh, you missed the Ramadan jokes? Yeah, me, too; Islam is never a punchline here.
Edited on Sun Apr-24-11 10:15 AM by WinkyDink
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CountAllVotes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-11 10:22 AM
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98. + one zillion and then some
Ain't it the truth!

:kick:

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jody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-11 10:19 AM
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96. Agree nasty bashing is an ad hominem attack and a waste of bandwidth. Now if political parties
would follow those principles and find compromises for divisive, polarizing issues . . .
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salinen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-11 10:19 AM
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97. Whaddaya mean fruitful?
Are you bashing vegetables?
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Skeeve Donating Member (87 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-11 10:29 AM
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101. Not accurate, but funny just the same
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WolverineDG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-11 10:31 AM
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102. Thank you nt
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Generic Other Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-11 10:40 AM
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106. Many are reacting negatively to the fact that Christians have condemned them
for lifestyle choices, beliefs, politics, etc. Not all Christians are intolerant. Many are sincere and live by Christ's teachings. Unfortunately, the loud nasty ones have co-opted the religion for their own purposes and their actions reflect badly on all.

I feel that way about being an American. The hatred directed against me is not of my doing. But I am lumped in with the ones who authorize unjust wars, engage in unconscionable acts abroad, and otherwise earn the condemnation of the world.

I know how that feels, so I can empathize with Christians who feel sensitive about being attacked for the actions of their brethren. I think a lot of good Christians are liberals because liberalism is the only real political position that is consistent with Christ's teachings.

But one should not expect others to respect your beliefs if you spend 365 days a year undermining them by your behavior.
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etherealtruth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-11 10:40 AM
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107. Respect for the feelings of others ...
... a good idea.

Thank you
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L. Coyote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-11 10:41 AM
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108. O.K., if they admit dead people don't come back to life.
Face it, the idea is preposterous.
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Swede Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-11 10:47 AM
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111. It reminds me of the right purposely over using energy on earth day.
A slap in the face for no reason.
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The empressof all Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-11 10:48 AM
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112. Locking
Please don't create threads that question or attack DU members. It's best to use the alert feature if you see bigotry in the forums and let the moderators address it.
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