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Capitalocracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-16-11 08:09 AM
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Five seconds of Fox News
So I watched Fox News today for the first time in over six years (apart from a few select clips online). I used to watch it periodically, because one has to keep an eye on the fascists. I'm living in Argentina at the moment, actually kind of in exile here because I married a woman from Argentina and I don't meet the U.S.'s financial requirements for sponsoring an immigrant spouse. So here I've been stuck for the last six years. Anyway, I recently switched internet and cable services, and this one has Fox News.

So what did I see in the first five seconds of watching Fox? Headlines: tornado, serial killer, missing blond girl. Crawler: Qaddafi is using cluster bombs in civilian areas. Cluster bombs are banned in most countries. (No mention of the U.S. and Israel, who also use cluster bombs on cities). Teaser: Are unions to blame for air traffic controllers falling asleep on the job? And they scoffed at the idea that more staff would help that problem. And then Mike Huckabee came on and said it's pointless to tax rich people 'cause they're just too smart for it, those slippery richies! Better to just institute a fair tax at point of purchase! (By the way, one of the worst things about living here in Argentina is the 21% VAT that stuck around after being implemented during the military dictatorship.)

Can't stop the crazy 'cause the crazy don't stop.
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DCKit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-16-11 08:16 AM
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1. Thanks for watching, so we don't have to.
Really though, ANOTHER missing blonde? Their viewers don't have two brain cells to rub together if that hasn't got old by now.
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koffeekup Donating Member (43 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-16-11 08:28 AM
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6. To those that know her, she is not just another missing blonde. NT
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Capitalocracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-16-11 08:29 AM
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8. I agree with you...
but I imagine there are missing brunettes out there as well.
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DCKit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-16-11 09:40 AM
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14. And dozens of missing black and brown kids.
I was commenting on media fail, not trying to be insensitive.

But you knew that.
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Buzz Clik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-16-11 08:16 AM
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2. Nice pitch for Qaddafi.
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Capitalocracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-16-11 08:19 AM
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3. Not a pitch for Gaddafi
I think the U.S. should be held accountable for its use of cluster bombs and depleted uranium, illegal weapons of mass destruction, in civilian areas (or at all, actually)
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Buzz Clik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-16-11 11:08 AM
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17. But not the murdering bastard who started all this? Sounds like a double standard.
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Capitalocracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-16-11 11:36 AM
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21. It would be, if that's what I said.
But it's not. He should also be held accountable.
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Buzz Clik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-16-11 01:47 PM
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22. I am very glad to hear you say that!
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BanzaiBonnie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-16-11 08:25 AM
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5. It was easy to see the statement
was not one of support for Qaddafi. It was used as an an illustration of all the hypocrisy.
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sasha031 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-16-11 08:22 AM
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4. yes Fox makes it seem we are living in an insane asylum
Argentina only has a flat tax? Do you have national health care and SS?

What is the country like now, I thought it was becoming more progressive.

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Capitalocracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-16-11 08:28 AM
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7. It is in a lot of ways, but the flat tax stayed.
Edited on Sat Apr-16-11 08:32 AM by Capitalocracy
No, it's not the only tax. But I don't think there's an income tax in the same way as in the U.S. I don't know too much about business taxation, but for independent service providers like my wife and me in the translation business, there's a bracket-based system. It is the same system used for paying taxes if you make income renting properties, so there are very, very rich people in this city who are paying using the same system. It's a ridiculous system with a flat rate for a small number of brackets which charges people in the lower brackets much more than the ones who are above the highest one. (Edit/correction: It charges people in the lower brackets a much higher percentage than those who are above the highest one.)

It's hard to overhaul tax policy, and there are a lot of interests at stake who aren't even necessarily afraid of trying another coup. So a lot of these ideas the Chicago Boys installed under the dictatorship have been difficult to shake.
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sasha031 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-16-11 08:44 AM
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11. thank you, there are states here that have just implemented a flat tax
I'm sure your familiar with the wacky ignorant tea party here who are advocates for Milton Friedman economics.
We have extreme right wingers in Congress and in the Senate that want to change everything as we know it.

I can only imagine how difficult it is for lower incomes paying a flat tax.
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Capitalocracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-16-11 08:49 AM
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12. oh yeah, I know about the tea party
I'm from Kansas, actually. And I'm still paying attention to U.S. politics, spending far too much of my time listening to online progressive media
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-16-11 08:30 AM
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9. the ministry of propaganda never disappoints
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madokie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-16-11 08:40 AM
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10. "Can't stop the crazy 'cause the crazy don't stop."
Best line I've read in a while
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Capitalocracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-16-11 09:34 AM
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13. thanks
:toast:

It's true, these people are like the energizer bunny. They just keep pounding that crazy drum all day long
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guyton Donating Member (370 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-16-11 09:59 AM
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15. Fox should be sued for calling it news ...
Well, almost all of MSM should be sued for not clearly labeling it entertainment. Some people actually watch it thinking it's news!

But what I really want to ask is ... what "financial requirements for sponsoring an immigrant spouse" ? Don't we allow people to marry non-citizens anymore? Or is that now reserved for the wealthy too?
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Capitalocracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-16-11 10:10 AM
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16. Oh, I can be married to her...
she just doesn't get to go to the U.S. unless I have an income of at least $18,213/year (2009 guidelines). That's more than I've ever made in my life, even though it's not really a living wage. I've always been relatively poor.
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-16-11 11:10 AM
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18. Is five seconds too many.
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mistertrickster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-16-11 11:10 AM
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19. You don't "meet the U.S.'s financial requirements for sponsoring an immigrant spouse" WTF?!
Edited on Sat Apr-16-11 11:10 AM by mistertrickster
The gov't "of the people, by the people, and for the people" has established a financial "test" for who you can marry and bring home?

That's the damnedest thing I ever heard of. It's outrageous.

Who ever decided that an American can be "too poor" to bring back their husband or wife?

It's ungodly.
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Capitalocracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-16-11 11:33 AM
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20. That's pretty much how I feel about it.
Luckily they don't have the same rule here in Argentina, or we wouldn't be able to live in the same country.

Interesting tidbit... they also ask on the forms if you (the immigrant) have ever been a member of a terrorist organization, you can't come in if you have. Kind of makes sense... but it also asks if you've ever been a member of a Communist organization.
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