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mfcorey1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-16-11 05:02 AM
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Man brutally attacks wife during divorce hearing.
http://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/broward/fort-lauderdal ...

FORT LAUDERDALE
An ex-Marine viciously attacked his wife during a final divorce hearing in a judge's chambers Friday morning, splitting her lip, causing her head to swell and bruise and leading to her hospitalization, authorities said.

Paul Henry Gonzalez Jr., 28, of Fort Lauderdale, had to be subdued with a stun gun and is being held at the Main Jail on charges of felony battery, domestic violence and resisting arrest without violence, according to a police report.

Catherine Ann Scott-Gonzalez, 23, also a former Marine, was rushed to Holy Cross Hospital where she is bruised and swollen but in stable condition with facial fractures, a torn lip and a broken nose, said her boyfriend, Brennan Worsencroft, 30.

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Demeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-16-11 06:02 AM
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1. Well, There's One Uncontestable Grounds
Sure hope there are no children involved, and if there are, that his parental rights are terminated.
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blueamy66 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-16-11 07:21 AM
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3. 2 kids
I can't understand how 2 people that loved eachother enough to have 2 children together can HATE eachother enough to get so ugly in a divorce.

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vim876 Donating Member (268 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-16-11 08:58 AM
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5. This doesn't sound like...
they "hate each other enough to get so ugly." This sounds like HE is an abuser.
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we can do it Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-16-11 09:48 AM
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12. +1000000000
he sounds like a total ass
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a la izquierda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-16-11 09:03 AM
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6. Heh, you can't be a divorced kid then.
My mother HATES my dad. My dad seems indifferent. They've been divorced for 20 freakin' years. My teenage years were positively miserable; ain't much better now. My parents can't be in the same room, so momentous events are ruined (my dad won't be at my graduation in May to make my life easier). It f'in sucks when people in their 40s and 50s can't behave like grownups, and don't think about how their toxic behavior affects their kids.
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-16-11 09:08 AM
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8. i agree. that really does amaze me with adults
unable to get beyond it. maybe i dont have the intense emotional aspect, but i dont get it at all.
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a la izquierda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-16-11 09:16 AM
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9. pisses me off...
both my parents have been in relationships for years since their divorce and yet they still feel the need to make our lives miserable.
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vim876 Donating Member (268 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-16-11 09:22 AM
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10. I wouldn't be able to "get beyond it"
if someone split my lip, either. Ugly divorce is one thing. Physical abuse is another.
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-16-11 09:35 AM
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11. well, the getting beyond it would be not kicking the shit out of X mate in court...
now wouldnt it.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-16-11 09:59 AM
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16. I'm divorced. My son (now 24) knows that his parents are friends
and he knew that from the get go. It was a painful divorce but we committed to putting that behind us for the sake of our kid. It really wasn't hard, and even now that our son is grown we remain good friends. So glad we did so and not just for our kid. I'm sorry your mom couldn't move on from her bitterness and pain.
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a la izquierda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-16-11 10:21 AM
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19. Yeah, it sucks.
She went through a lot in that marriage, but sheesh...it was a very long time ago. I didn't speak to my dad for years. I finally decided I refused to be an old lady someday who never made peace with her dad. I knew I couldn't live like that.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-16-11 10:26 AM
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20. glad you were able to make peace with your dad!
yeah, I went through a lot too; my ex was physically and emotionally abusive, but I KNEW that I had to let it go for the sake of my kid. and forgiveness feels so much better than endless bitterness and hate.
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blueamy66 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-16-11 10:46 AM
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30. Nope. My parents were together for years.
Edited on Sat Apr-16-11 10:49 AM by blueamy66
But my mother was a child of a divorce. Her father promised her a car for HS graduation. Not only did she not get the car, the man never showed up for the graduation. And he had the marriage annulled....

Hey, I live with a guy that pays ALOT of child support....never married, just had the kid with her....it makes me a bit bitter, but I speak to the son and we get along....he is a joy

Don't know exactly what I'm getting at....but am sick of the bitterness on this website.
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a la izquierda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-16-11 04:38 PM
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34. Sorry, I sort of half intended it to be a joke...
I didn't mean to make you feel bad. I'm actually not bitter, and that's the point. My parents can be bitter old farts for the rest of their lives, but it sure as hell isn't going to bother me.

My parents' marriage was annulled too, after 10 years.
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blueamy66 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-16-11 08:06 PM
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43. thanks
nt
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Celebration Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-16-11 04:50 PM
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35. .............
:hug:
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Darth_Kitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-16-11 09:53 AM
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14. He got ugly, she is the victim of abuse.
n/t
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Evolve_Already Donating Member (154 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-16-11 06:01 PM
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40. ^5
This both sides get ugly BS is not for THIS particular story. How many menz get sent to the hospital having injuries that require medical attention? mathematically insignificant.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-16-11 09:55 AM
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15. you obviously don't know a thing about abuse.
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blueamy66 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-16-11 10:29 AM
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21. You're right.
Edited on Sat Apr-16-11 10:47 AM by blueamy66
I don't know a thing. I just work in the criminal justice system.

Thanks for letting me know. Wanna see the police report that was filed when I was beaten up by an ex-boyfriend? Oh wait, you're right...I don't know a thing about abuse.

Jesus, can anyone post anything on this board without others responding with snarky comments?

I fucking posted that I can't believe people can hate eachother that much and get slammed.? WTF?
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-16-11 10:31 AM
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23. yes, because there's no indication that she hates him or that
his motive was anything out of the norm for abusive men- which has a lot more to do with control than anything else.
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blueamy66 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-16-11 10:34 AM
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25. He OBVIOUSLY hates her.
dontcha think?
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anneboleyn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-16-11 04:56 PM
Response to Reply #21
37. I have seen this recently on DU. Snark is becoming commonplace, and some people aren't even reading
the replies, just looking at the subject line (so there are frequent misunderstandings). I understood what you were trying to say in your first post.
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Liberal_in_LA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-16-11 07:06 PM
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42. +1
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blueamy66 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-16-11 08:09 PM
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44. thank you too
nt
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-16-11 04:59 PM
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38. Do you mean it amazes you that people can hate each other that much, or that you can't believe they
can? Trying to clarify here. Thanks.

I didn't file police reports as didn't know I could and it was during an age where the cops wouldn't have believed me or cared.

I am amazed that people can hate each other so much, but believe thay can since it happened to me. As it sounds like to you.

So, to clarify?
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blueamy66 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-16-11 08:15 PM
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46. I cannot believe that 2 people that loved eachother enough
to make love, get married and have 2 children can fight this badly. And yes, if the woman and man are in court fighting, she ain't over it.

I did the "lawyer" work for my fiance, who was trying to get his child support reduced....which, by the way, I was successful at. :-) The mother of his son was a total witch about the whole thing. I wish I had taken the bar exam, as I should have been paid alot of cash. Can't people let things go?

I have...I can....maybe I'm superhuman or special or something....I was dumped a few times....I managed to move on....I just don't get it.

That is all my post was intended to point out.....
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-17-11 11:46 AM
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47. People are emotionally driven beings that often make no sense
Thanks for the reply, looked like you were getting dumped on and I wanted to make sure of what you meant rather than assuming something that you didn't mean.
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CreekDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-16-11 10:03 AM
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17. i know...why did she get so mad that she hit his fist with her face?
:eyes:
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madinmaryland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-16-11 10:06 AM
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18. If you have not been through a divorce, then you really don't understand
the hatred that goes along with it.
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blueamy66 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-16-11 10:31 AM
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22. I did go through a divorce, but EVERYONE on DU
knows everything about my life, so they are free to opine and offer their BS.

My ex and I fought over giving eachother "stuff".

Jesus again.

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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-16-11 10:32 AM
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24. went through two. no hate in either one. lots of pain
but no hate.
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blueamy66 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-16-11 10:44 AM
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28. Yeah, there was a bit of pain, but it was the right thing to do.
The hardest part was dropping my husband off at the UHaul lot with the doggie in the car and watching him kiss her goodbye.

Not everything is cut and dry.
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lunatica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-17-11 11:55 AM
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49. I didn't read where she attacked him or that she put him in the hospital
Lot's of people think women have it coming to them.
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blueamy66 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-17-11 11:59 AM
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50. Oh please.
Edited on Sun Apr-17-11 12:01 PM by blueamy66
Let's be real here.

Sometimes women can really provoke a man.

No, they do not deserve to be hit, but, again, let's be real.

We all know that women can be evil, and again, they don't deserve to be hit, EVER, but....the fact remains that women know how to push certain buttons.

Us womenn can be bitter bitches.....let's just admit it.
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lunatica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-17-11 01:07 PM
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52. You've equated pushing buttons to physical violence again in this argument
Men have harsh words and plenty of button pushing manipulations as well. If that were all the violence between men and women it would be an equal exchange.

Men who hit women show a profound lack of self-control and feel justified because of some "bitchy thing she said or did" or because "she pushes his buttons".

You're the one who needs to get real.
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blueamy66 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-18-11 05:44 AM
Response to Reply #52
57. I lived it. I am real.
Come talk to me for a few hours.....you may change your mind.
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Bunny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-18-11 07:21 AM
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58. Unfuckingbelievable.
Pathetic.
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blueamy66 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-18-11 10:32 AM
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59. I'm pathetic?
live my life sister
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PADemD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-16-11 07:14 AM
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2. This link works
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ngant17 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-16-11 08:12 AM
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4. if the Army wanted you to have a wife
they would have issued you one at boot camp.

Marriage and combat duty don't seem to be a very compatible mix to me.
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Le Taz Hot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-16-11 09:04 AM
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7. Attacked her from behind,
got her in a chokehold and hit her, closed-fisted, on the side of the face which knocked her out. He continued to hit her while she was unconscience. Well well well, ain't he just the big, bad Marine. :puke:
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pipi_k Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-16-11 09:50 AM
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13. What's so sad and scary...
Edited on Sat Apr-16-11 09:51 AM by pipi_k
If he was willing and able to be so violent in the presence of
others, what must he have been like when they were alone...



oops edited for error


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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-16-11 05:00 PM
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39. On the other hand, good place to prove the point, if you know what I mean.
Much more obvious than "simply" having his ex say "he beat me". Rather noticeable.
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pipi_k Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-16-11 08:10 PM
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45. Oh, absolutely! n/t
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MindPilot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-16-11 10:39 AM
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26. Both Marines, both likely vets of multiple combat tours...
both trained, skilled and experienced in the use of violence, and we wonder why they aren't model citizens when they return stateside.

We will reap these fruits of war for a long time to come.
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WatsonT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-16-11 11:02 AM
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33. I haven't seen any information that returning vets are
statistically more violent/criminal prone than non-vets after you account for age, gender, and socio-economic differences (the military tends to be poorer young males who are always prone to crime and violence out of proportion to the general population).

You just hear about it more because they always identify former vets who do these things.
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Karenina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-16-11 06:42 PM
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41. As has happened with VN Vets of my generation...
Past is prologue, I guess. Getting shot at in the jungle one day, dropped off at LAX on the next, so many never "landed."

In my circle, we avoided dating vets. Way too many stories of violence triggered by noise, nightmares or who knew and scant help to deal with it. Those who survived intact were lucky or not in combat getting exposed to Agent Orange. The way America treats its veterans is nothing short of abuse.
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benEzra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-17-11 07:36 PM
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56. What evidence do you have that SHE wasn't a model citizen?
Both Marines, both likely vets of multiple combat tours, both trained, skilled and experienced in the use of violence, and we wonder why they aren't model citizens when they return stateside.

What evidence do you have that SHE wasn't a model citizen? I certainly don't see this assault as two-sided.
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Honeycombe8 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-16-11 10:39 AM
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27. Boy, HE is in big trouble, now. He committed assault in FRONT of a judge
and lawyers? Makes me wonder if he'll get off for LOW IQ...because that's ipso facto proof of stupidity, or lack of control, or both.

Glad they stopped him before he did more damage.
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lpbk2713 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-16-11 10:44 AM
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29. Timing is everything



Spousal abuse is never a good thing, particularly in front of the judge. :eyes:


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treestar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-16-11 10:48 AM
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31. Family Court is the most dangerous one
Criminal courts are safer.

I was once in Family court and heard a "rumble" going on upstairs. Fortunately no one got hurt.

Being a court bailiff would be tough - years and years of nothing and then suddenly called into action.
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WatsonT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-16-11 11:00 AM
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32. That will likely not help his case
have fun getting completely stripped of all your assets then going to jail for a while.

Moron.
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ironrooster Donating Member (273 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-16-11 04:53 PM
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36. If I had been the court constable - I would have shot him DEAD,
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Texasgal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-17-11 11:52 AM
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48. Bad link. n/t
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mfcorey1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-17-11 01:46 PM
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54. Here is a better one
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grahamhgreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-17-11 12:18 PM
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51. I wonder why they were getting divorced?
:sarcasm:
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YellowRubberDuckie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-17-11 01:37 PM
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53. The story does not go into details about the marriage.
So we don't really know the whole story. Was there particularly ridiculous game playing going on? Did the marine have PTSD? Was he abusive during their marriage? There's no details and everyone is assuming because someone freaks out one time and goes completely ape shit that he's consistently been abusive and will be abusive in the future. People freak out at the prospect of losing their kids. How do we know this woman isn't particularly vicious? I'm not saying that she deserved the attack, but some of the comments about him getting his parental rights severed over one incident is absurd. How do we know what happened in the marriage? Maybe she was cheating, decided to go after everything and tried to take his kids away. That is enough to make anyone go crazy.
He should go to prison for assault and battery for whatever time he should legally serve, and everyone needs to grow up and move on with their lives.
Duckie
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-17-11 01:54 PM
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55. What's the fun in that? We need to extrapolate the entire history of their relationship from this!
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blueamy66 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-18-11 10:36 AM
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60. thank you
you said it perfectly
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