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amerikat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 09:34 PM
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Let's do an experiment in perception.
I was watching a video of a class at Stanford University. The professor
wrote four numbers on a white board.

4 14 23 34 What is the next number and why?

I'm not a scientist and barely graduated high school but I continue to learn
and found this professor very interesting.
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 09:36 PM
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1. 42? if i did math right. though tired. 10, 9, 11, 8, the next would be 12
up down up down
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amerikat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 09:39 PM
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4. not up down up down
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 09:43 PM
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6. uh hu. start at ten. then down to 9. then up to 11. then down to 8. then up to 12. then down
to 7

does to work, lol
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amerikat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 09:48 PM
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9. It's not necessarily a math problem..hint
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nc4bo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 09:54 PM
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12. Nevermind (d'oh)- can't wait to see.
Edited on Thu Apr-14-11 09:55 PM by nc4bo
I'm a math idiot though :)
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amerikat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 10:01 PM
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18. This is why it is an experiment in perception
most of us seek a mathematical answer because the question involves numbers
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catabryna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 09:37 PM
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2. The next number is 65
Because I was born on 04/23/65.

B-)

Happy nearly 46th birthday to me!
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amerikat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 09:40 PM
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5. you could be correct
or not
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amerikat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 09:46 PM
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7. and happy birthday in advance.
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amerikat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 09:37 PM
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3. I'll link to the video and correct answer after some responses.
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catabryna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 09:47 PM
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8. Can't wait to see your answer...
but, it can't be better than mine! :P
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amerikat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 09:52 PM
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10. You are at a disadvantage geographicly....hint
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catabryna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 09:55 PM
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13. Don't be a Debbie Downer...
Edited on Thu Apr-14-11 09:57 PM by catabryna
I'm sticking with my answer. :evilgrin:

BTW: The sign up the road says this is my Easter Funday... don't ruin it! lol!
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Exilednight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 09:53 PM
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11. 42
start at 4 then sequence +10 +9 +11 +8 +12 +7 +13 +6

It's an old cypher technique.
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amerikat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 09:57 PM
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15. It's not a math or cypher technique.
you may have the correct answer or not.
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Exilednight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 10:02 PM
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19. If there's a different answer, then there isn't enough information to determine what the next number
in the sequence would be.
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amerikat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 10:10 PM
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24. not about math...
you can't get the answer with logic.
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-11 06:32 AM
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71. well, geez. no logic. hm. a challenge. lol. nt
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 09:56 PM
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14. delete
Edited on Thu Apr-14-11 09:58 PM by in_cog_ni_to



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amerikat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 09:59 PM
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16. Nice bug! you may or may not have the correct answer.
if you have the correct answer you arrived from the wrong direction.
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tabatha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 10:00 PM
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17. The only unknown is
Edited on Thu Apr-14-11 10:03 PM by tabatha
whether one of sequences goes up and the other down.

There is not enough information to know whether the second sequence decreases.

It could be 4 14 23 34 .... 44

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amerikat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 10:05 PM
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21. If the next number was a decrease millions of people would be
very confused indeed. It's not a math problem. It's a perception thing.
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nc4bo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 10:06 PM
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22. I had that 44 floating in my dimlit brain....
the word that pushed me there was "perception".

Cool stuff.
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cameozalaznick Donating Member (624 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 10:05 PM
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20. 45
That's my guess... 45.
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amerikat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 10:07 PM
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23. Guessing? you could be correct.
in the film someone guessed 7 billion. and they were wrong.
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shanti Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 11:07 PM
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61. 45...or 5
depends
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amerikat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 11:10 PM
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65. See the answer near the end of this post.
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amerikat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 10:13 PM
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25. Atleast one person has the correct answer.
but not for the correct reason.
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 10:15 PM
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26. Are the next two numbers 44 and 53?
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amerikat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 10:21 PM
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31. first number is incorrect. Haven't gone to the sixth number.
although you could be correct on number 6. Not sure
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 11:11 PM
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66. How about 42, then 54 -- ? Will keep trying!!
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amerikat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 11:14 PM
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68. see post 52 for the answer
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amerikat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 10:17 PM
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28. I'll post a major hint at 1:30 EST or is it dst.. i"ll post a mojor hint
in 13 minutes.
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 10:25 PM
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35. cameo? I think I get it but don't want to give it away if I'm right. nt
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amerikat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 10:31 PM
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40. based on your geographical location
I doubt it.
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shanti Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 11:09 PM
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63. see my answer above
does there have to be a reason?
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Exilednight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 10:17 PM
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27. If it's not 42, then it's 44. But that's a problem for sequencing. n/t
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amerikat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 10:19 PM
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29. No sequencing is involved. it's not math it's perception.
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RegieRocker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 10:19 PM
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30. 44 or 43 or ?
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amerikat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 10:22 PM
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32. you could be correct or not...why 44 or 43?
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RegieRocker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 10:27 PM
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38. That is my secret! I'll let you know after answer is revealed.
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catabryna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 10:24 PM
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33. perception = intuition...
Just helping all you people out who are looking toward logical explanations... :hi:
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amerikat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 10:29 PM
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39. Thank you. logic and math have nothing to do with the
correct answer :bounce:
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Coyote_Bandit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 10:25 PM
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34. delete
Edited on Thu Apr-14-11 10:35 PM by Coyote_Bandit
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darkstar3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 10:26 PM
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37. Um?
Check again...
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Coyote_Bandit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 10:34 PM
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45. :-)
I'm sleep deprived and math challenged.
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darkstar3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 10:37 PM
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46. Sleep deprivation does some strange things, doesn't it?
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boston bean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 10:25 PM
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36. 44
Edited on Thu Apr-14-11 10:33 PM by boston bean
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tabatha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 10:33 PM
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42. deleted
Edited on Thu Apr-14-11 10:34 PM by tabatha
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boston bean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 10:34 PM
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44. yeah, i noticed that and deleted my response.. can't hide any thing around here
LOL
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darkstar3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 10:33 PM
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41. 42, because the next number is whatever I want it to be.
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amerikat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 10:34 PM
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43. IT'S TIME FORE THE BIG HINT!!!!
4th, 14th, 23rd, 34th.
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Lars39 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 10:43 PM
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49. Is it...
53rd avenue?
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Recovered Repug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 10:40 PM
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47. I'm just curious what the answer is
and don't want to loose track of the thread.
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buzzard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 10:42 PM
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48. Me too,n/t
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amerikat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 10:43 PM
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50. bookmark this thread. You will want to watch the lecture
that I will post shortly.
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MedleyMisty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 10:44 PM
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51. Hmm
Answering before reading the rest of the thread.

It could be 44, but that's boring and predictable. 10 9 11 10, a pattern of adding and subtracting one - it'd go on to be 12 11 13 12, etc.

42 is cool - 10 9 11 8, adding one and then subtracting one - it'd go on to be 12 7 13 6. Plus, you know - 42 is the answer. ;)

Trying to look for other patterns that make sense - don't get anything from 4 5 5 7. Haha - I'd totally make a puzzle like 1 12 21, what's the next number? And the answer would be any combination that would add up to 7, so the sums of the number pairs would spell out 1337. :)

Looking at the numbers themselves but not getting anything from that - there is the 1 2 3 pattern but not sure what to do with 4 4 3 4, in that case.

It's late and I haven't eaten much today, so I'm going to stop there.
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amerikat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 10:48 PM
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52. OK. Here is the answer 42 as in 42nd St. It's a next subway stop
after 34th St in NYC. I hope nobody is disappointed. Like I said it was
an experiment in perception. You needed to have some familiarity with the
NYC subway system to come to a conclusion and the correct answer.
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Lars39 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 10:51 PM
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54. lol
That was fun, amerikat! :hi:
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amerikat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 10:56 PM
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56. Glad you enjoyed it.
I hope nobody is pissed off. Lot of faceplants for the logical thinkers right about now.
I did tell them it was a perception thing and stressed that it was not a logic or math problem.
What the lecture when you have the time. Well worth watching IMO.
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Lars39 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 11:02 PM
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58. Naw...everybody liked stretching their brains a bit.
Got it booked marked. Looks good. :)
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amerikat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 11:05 PM
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60. I like a good brain teaser myself. Watch the video.
I think these perceptions have a great deal of weight in the political world.
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 11:21 PM
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69. Shame, shame!! I'm a old New Yorker -- and traveled that route often -- !!
Trying to recall what came after 42nd St -- been a long time --

think it was 54th St -- Wow!!

:)
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-11 06:37 AM
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72. booooo.. all the people that arent in ny are out of luck. boooo.
my son was figure we ougth to put up the names of pres and say, what is next. we have an area where the streets are all named after pres
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RegieRocker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-11 06:37 AM
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73. Pffffft
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amerikat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 10:50 PM
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53. Thanks for participating in this experiment.
Kudos to Seabeyond. Exiledknight and Darkstrar3. all had correct answers but
for all the wrong reasons. This was and experiment in perception. Many tried to apply logic and math
to arrive at the conclusion. Well this was fun for me. I hope it was fun for you.
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-11 06:39 AM
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74. wink.
i got my answer before hubby like way fast. was good for his ego. even though our answer wrong.
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amerikat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 10:52 PM
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55. Here is the link to the lecture on human biology.
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catabryna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 11:09 PM
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64. Bookmarked...
Edited on Thu Apr-14-11 11:10 PM by catabryna
I'm listening to music at the moment. But, we know what it is, and what it ain't.

;)
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amerikat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 11:13 PM
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67. Thank you for participating in this experiment.
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 11:25 PM
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70. Thanks -- saved it -- can't watch right now!! :)
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provis99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 11:00 PM
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57. these are famous bible passages written by Paul regarding Christ
Philippians (chp4) 4-14, Romans (chp8) 23-34.

The next series could be 1 Corinthians (chp12) 12-27.

They cover the same themes,

Maybe your prof was subconsciously channeling his inner Christian?
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amerikat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 11:02 PM
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59. I'll look into that. bookmarking my own thread for
future study.
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provis99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 11:08 PM
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62. oops. I posted this after you gave the answer.
Edited on Thu Apr-14-11 11:08 PM by provis99
Never would have guessed it was New York subway stops!
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-11 06:41 AM
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75. love it prov. how totally creative. yea. nt
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Donald Ian Rankin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-11 07:21 AM
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76. Any number you like can be the 5th term of a quintic sequence with those first four terms.
More generally, one can find a polynomial whose first n terms are any sequence of n numbers.

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