3. I agree. And I'll be ready to pay higher taxes after several years
Husband and I paid a bunch in the Clinton years and it was well worth it. But right now, for the next several years, I want the burden to fall on the shoulders of the wealthiest among us. And the military should get an overdue bite out of its budget.
And btw, I never have related to the middle class. They were always the doctors and lawyers in my early years.
My family was always working class as far as I could tell. It's kind of like the word liberal. Some things you just don't want to give up because they still feel right. I'm proud to be a girl whose dad worked in a factory. Jeez, now I need a hanky.
25. I hear that about "lower class." The whole point of that phrase was to make sure there
was an "us", the superior wealthy people, and a "them," which is pretty much everyone else who is nowhere near as valuable as the members of the "upper class." (And then along came the middle class, who while not as valuable or special as the upper class, well at least they are visible.)
30. Yes, working class is good, but we also need to find a way to make sure we don't leave out the
non-workers like the unemployed, the disabled, and the elderly. They are rather invisible too. But it's awkward mentioning them all by name if you are in a hurry, I guess, hence the reason why people just jumble them all into the "lower class." It makes it easy, but it definitely is an injustice when you stop to think about it.
31. But, please understand who all is left out of that "working" part!
I keep trying to drive that home.
They are getting rid of disability, while "progressives" are bizzy concentrating on "the working class".
Do you see what I am getting at?
Only those who are able to work have value.
What are the rest of us to do?
I have been saying this lately... right here at DU, there are 4 men I know who can no longer work. It has been hell for them to come to terms with that.... men's identity is so wrapped up in what they "do".
Then here we come with all this "working class" stuff... can you understand how that can rub salt in an already hard-to-heal wound?
37. The point is that our culture doesn't have adequate language to discuss class
Your response speaks so clearly to this dilemma. Talking about the value of one class doesn't devalue the others.
Btw, I resent your saying "here we come with all this "working class" stuff". You've crossed a line in the sand with that. All my family was working class back to my immigrant grandparents and I won't tolerate anyone trying to put it down as if it's not worthy of respect or that talking about with respect is inappropriate.
29. I'm hoping she does an entire show on poverty and homelessness.
Since, as Bobbolink said, they are the ones who are completely ignored by our society, government and MSM. The working class, the middle class and the wealthy have endless attention and we NEVER hear mention of our less fortunate in this country. Things are so different than they use to be. Poverty use to be something IMPORTANT to this country. These days you would think it doesn't even exist. That's how ignored it is.
34. The poor, disabled and elderly pay the highest taxes ... always
Check out the Institute for Economic Policy who have done the wonk work and find that in EVERY SINGLE STATE they pay a far larger part of their incomes in taxes than their richest rich ~ usually at least twice as much. http://itepnet.org Scroll down and click on "Who Pays?"
On that site, they have some fascinating articles about other tax issues and its impact on the "least of us" as well.
They should sacrifice little to none - heck they have little to none. No, it's the rich bastards who better start ponying up or we're going to have a problem that no amount of letting us eat cake will fix.
Hey listen, I'm talking about parity. In a reply to someone else above I said that I'd be ready to go back to the Clinton tax rates for my income. We paid it then and I'll do it again. **But not right now.** Now it's time for Uncle Scrooge McDuck to go money spearing in his vault and hand over some of the largess to the tax man.
42. I remember that scene from a comic book from long ago
I spent a lot of time reading those comics at the local Boys' Club. And wondering why Uncle Scrooge had so much money, but never shared it with anyone. (On a side note, I also wondered why the only mother specifically mentioned in "Duckberg" was the leader of an outlaw gang)
14. I've been fighting, marching or voicing agaisnt war since LBJ
It's a good question, btw. People need to realize how they get to supporting the system that crushes them. Good people can get fooled and duped.
No time like the present to diagram the structure of our nation like a sentence back in the fifth grade. Stand back and take a look at the parts and how they fit together to keep us on this train ride to hell.
For some reason, parts of that march really stand out to me. I think it was the emotion... impending catastrophe, yet we had so much hope because a lot of us were speaking out.. not waiting, as we did with Vietnam.
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