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Boojatta Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 08:23 PM
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Among today's birthers, did any ever voice support of change so Schwarzenegger could be Prez?
Among people who are now birthers, did any say on the record that the Constitution should be amended so that American citizens who weren't born in the USA wouldn't be prohibited from becoming President?

Only a major research project could justify a "No" answer, but maybe somebody on DU can suggest a line of investigation that could allow confirmation of a "Yes" answer.
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Mojeoux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 08:34 PM
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1. I remember this discussion. Gulianni was one of them
Don't know if he's a birther. Hardly any of todays assholes were famous back then.
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Trajan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 08:45 PM
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2. One of the few cogent posts I have seen from a certain someone ....
I believe it is ABSOLUTELY fair to chase down what opinions certain public figures in government and the media might have had regarding Schwarzenegger back in the day .... and see how they square with their rhetoric in the here and now ....

Hypocrisy is a sin, isn't it ?
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GKirk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 08:48 PM
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3. I'm not sure I get
this line of thought.

If they said that the constitution should be amemded to allow Schwarzenegger to run for president
that would seem to be consistent with them wanting confirmation of Obama's US birth.
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Drale Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 09:17 PM
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4. But Schwarzenegger is a white guy
so he wouldn't try and bring down democracy. :sarcasm:
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GKirk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-11 07:46 AM
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5. Don't you get what their defense would be?
Edited on Fri Apr-15-11 08:19 AM by GKirk
They would say "Yes if we wanted a guy who wasn't born in the USA to run for president
we would change the constitution before nominating him, not try to sneak him past the process".

Not that that would make total sense because, first of all it's obvious that Schw. was born in Austria and
that Obama was born in Hawaii.
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Boojatta Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-11 07:59 AM
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6. Was Schwarzenegger the last hope of the Republican Party?
If they had decided that changing the constitution was not only convenient, but also the right thing to do, then why didn't they continue to pursue the change after they lost interest in Schwarzenegger as a potential Republican nominee for a Presidential campaign? Also, isn't it a good idea for a long and uncertain constitutional amendment process to be completed before they have a candidate in mind? Moreover, what about an independent candidate? Shouldn't a candidate who isn't affiliated with any party have the same opportunity that they wanted to give to Schwarzenegger? As a matter of short-range tactical thinking, wouldn't the Republicans like to see a foreign-born version of Ralph Nader siphoning votes from the Democratic Party?
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GKirk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-11 08:21 AM
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7. Who are you referring to?
"foreign-born version of Ralph Nader"
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Boojatta Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-16-11 10:35 AM
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8. I don't assume that there is exactly one person who might be
reasonably described with that label. Maybe there is no such person. Maybe there are two or more. It's a hypothetical.
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treestar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-16-11 10:41 AM
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9. Oh surely there would be at least one
Republicans are nothing if not hypocritical.

A naturalized citizen arguably chose the US on their own, so there's some good argument that they would not necessarily be wrong for the Presidency. But then they'd be demanding Obama get himself naturalized, so they could poke holes in that process. Ahnuld's would be just fine.

IOW, they black man has to meet the higher standard. Never did they demand McDope's BC, they just accepted that he was born here. It's the black guy whose birth has to be proven to a higher standard.
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